Any plumbers? Man, I've been snaking my wifes drain all morning........

[skip68]

Any plumbers out there?   Tell me if this is right.   The drain from the kitchen sink goes into a 2" pipe, runs along the house ( underground of course), around the corner and then ties into the 3" sewer line from the master bath.   

Question........is 2" the correct size?   It's plugged a few times so I put in some cleanouts to help make it easier to snake.   

Thanks.   

[moparstuart]

  stop dumping grease and coffee grounds down the sink

[RECHRGD]

Yea, two inch would be the right size.  As long as there are no tight elbows in the line it should work.  But, like Stu said, ask Mrs. skip what she's putting down the drain.......

[A383Wing]

Probably Skippy cleaning Camaro parts in the sink

Bryan

[b5blue]

The drain goes to a "vent stack" also Skip.

[skip68]

I think I've got a venting problem.   There's no vent through the roof so maybe it's in the wall or no vent at all.         I've got the pipe cleared and water is flowing good but I keep hearing a gurgling sound from the sink.  It's like air bubbles.        I'm really leaning towards a venting issue.

[b5blue]

 Check for a (sp?) "Studer vent" it's a small kinda dome fitting on a short riser, it has a flap inside that vents the line so fluids can flow and not create a vacuum when they do. It only lets air in not vapors out if it's working. They can clog shut from overload and should be serviced or replaced regularly. 

[A6USMC]

This maybe way off base, but I kinda remember my grandmother saying, dump baking soda down the drain and then pour vinegar on it? worth a try?

[areibel]

Check for a (sp?) "Studer vent" it's a small kinda dome fitting on a short riser, it has a flap inside that vents the line so fluids can flow and not create a vacuum when they do. It only lets air in not vapors out if it's working. They can clog shut from overload and should be serviced or replaced regularly. 

Depending on when your house was built, you either need one or need to fix the one you have.  Is it plastic pipe?  That would be the easiest, but with Fernco fittings (the kind that looks like a black rubber tube with hose clamps on it) it wouldn't be hard to cut one in.

[NHCharger]

Below is a description of how a studor vent works. We use them occasional on office build outs for a kitchen sink but the inspectors don't like them. You usually use a studor vent for a single fixture, not an entire house.
Do you have access to your attic? When building a new house you are required to do a pressure test on all the plumbing, (waste and feed piping). That means the plumber has to block every drain AND the stack pipe and put a pressure gauge on the pipe with 10 pounds of air in the waste pipes and show that it holds for an hour. I have seen plumbers forget to remove the cap off the stack pipe.
   

   

A Studor vent is simply a valve that allows air into drainpipes when suction is present. The vent closes when the suction disappears to prevent foul odors from coming back into the building. Often, when a bathtub, shower or washing machine is bubbling or gurgling, either a Studor vent needs to be installed or an existing vent is locked in the open position.

Read more: How to Use Studor Vents | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_6101136_use-studor-vents.html#ixzz2PYACKc3z

[skip68]

The house was built in 1986.   Thanks for all the input guys.  That studor vent sounds like the issue.  I'm going to open the wall tomorrow.   

[HeavyFuel]

All morning?   Now you're just braggin'...

[mrsskip68]

All morning?   Now you're just braggin'...

More like two mins!) Oops! Im outta here! Lol! 

[b5blue]

Studer should A: be in plain sight inside a cabinet or B: have a cover panel if inside a wall. (Per code.) 

[NHCharger]

Studer should A: be in plain sight inside a cabinet or B: have a cover panel if inside a wall. (Per code.) 

[bakerhillpins]

Studer should A: be in plain sight inside a cabinet or B: have a cover panel if inside a wall. (Per code.) 

   per code. That's a good one.

[74bluecharger440]

How often does it plug up??  If its only once a year or so I wouldn't  install a cheater vent.Your plumbing codes are different there and I believe the pipe you use is PVC  ( white) not ABS  (black).. I have a tool in my van that shoots compressed air into the drain usually very effective. The pipe has to  be full of water to work and you have to be carefull to not blow the pipe apart. I know that ABS pipe and glue are very strong and thick walled so it usually holds up..Its when I get into the older homes that I usually go with the snake. The can of compressed air that you buy at the hardware store is junk not enough pressure. Anyway just an other option, a vent installed within 5 ft of the P-trap would be the correct fix and running it to the attic and tying to other vents or through the roof on its own. but you have to change the vent to 3 inch  before it goes out,.

[Todd Wilson]

All morning?   Now you're just braggin'...

[skip68]

Well, where the pipe goes into the wall it has a ABS 90° turn going down.   Looks like it's been replaced a few years ago since the wall has been opened before and it doesn't look old.    NO VENT.  So, I'm thinking I need to vent this so it flows better and stops the vacuum effect that is contributing to causing it to plug.   
    It sucks because space is limited.  Not much room to work under there.   Guess I'll just have to open the wall above the counter. 

[b5blue]

You want it as high or higher than the sink if possible.

[Ponch ®]

Any plumbers out there?   Tell me if this is right.   The drain from the kitchen sink goes into a 2" pipe, runs along the house ( underground of course), around the corner and then ties into the 3" sewer line from the master bath.   

Question........is 2" the correct size?   It's plugged a few times so I put in some cleanouts to help make it easier to snake.   

Thanks.   

well, that's the problem...you ain't gonna get the job with a 2" pipe. also make sure you put the snake in the right drain...

[skip68]

I've got a window about 15" above the sink so I'll just go straight up as high as possible.    
I presume Home Depot has those vents?    
Thanks again gents.  

[skip68]

Ponch, if I did it 6 times isn't that the same as 12"   

[projectanimal]

Ponch, if I did it 6 times isn't that the same as 12"   

[JB400]

Take the sink out or ban the wife from that bathroom.  Problem solved

[b5blue]

I've got a window about 15" above the sink so I'll just go straight up as high as possible.    
I presume Home Depot has those vents?    
Thanks again gents.  

Just do this.....
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[74bluecharger440]

the vent only needs to be 1 1/2 inch 

[mrsskip68]

Took a recent pic of Skip68,.......enjoy! 

[71ChallengeHer]

 

[Mopar Nut]