Where to get these tires?

[knightprowl]

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[Dino]

Is anyone still making 14" car tires?

Summit tires is still around, give them a call.

[knightprowl]

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[knightprowl]

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[TUFCAT]

Those do not appear to be radials. Bias belted.

[knightprowl]

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[Daytona R/T SE]

Any old car tire search should start here:

http://www.cokertire.com/   

[knightprowl]

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[Mike DC]

         


Bias-ply tires belong on fairground restos.  Even many of those guys have a radial set for most of the time and a bias-ply set just for shows.  And you'll notice that old-repro tire companies even offer radial versions with the sidewalls painted up to look like bias-plys.  

After living on radials for years, going to bias-plys is a big step down in terms of tire wear, predictability at the edge, puncture/blowout resistance . . . just all-around safety.  For street purposes there is zero upside to them.


Just something to consider.    

 

[Indygenerallee]

http://www.summittire.us/    I can guarantee they probably don't even make a 14" inch tire anymore, It's getting difficult finding 15" tires anymore.

[TUFCAT]

From that picture the tire looks to be about a 225/70/14.  There's a possibility it could be 235/70/14 but no bigger than that.  Bias belted tires like that in a 14 inch size haven't been sold for 30 years....until the newer Goodyear and Firestone reproductions came out

[knightprowl]

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[knightprowl]

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[TUFCAT]

After looking at the photo again, it's definitely not 235. i'm sticking with 225/70 or possibly even 215/70 but that seems smallish for a b-body.

[Dino]

I had 215's on my car.  Looks about right but looks are deceiving.  I'll see if I can find a pic from that angle to compare.

[charge69]

I don't know if you can get them in a 14" size but, these tires pictured on the front of my Charger are 225x70-15 B F Goodrich Radial T/A. They are about an inch taller than the stock bias-ply tires that were delivered on it when new. Obviously, they are 4-row tires also.

[Dino]

This is about the best I can come up with.  Firestone 215/70R14

[knightprowl]

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[6bblgt]

Tire design (& technology) has changed tons since the GENERAL first aired.  BFGs of that vintage had a very similar look to the pictured "SUMMIT" & any 14" 70 series tire is going to look small on a 2nd generation Charger (F70-14s *215/70/14* were STANDARD on a '70 HEMI Charger R/T), but that WAS the norm.  I'll agree on the 215-225 guesses above.

While I usually take pics of wheels & tires, this is the best I can find of a 442 I purchased that had 3 SUMMITs on it 245/60/14 front & 275/60/14 rear.  I don't recall if they were radials or not.

[knightprowl]

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[troy.70R/T]

 have some old slotted mags with old tires on them.  will look and see, but I think they are 15 inch diameter rims

[Dino]

So which one do you think it is. 215 or 225. Just let me know. Here is the picture again to go by even though its in the first post.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/zz19/HossC_2010/ShelbyWheel0104.jpg

Thank you and Peace.

I had 225's on my 68 and they look different.  The one on the GL looks more like what I had on my 69 so 215 is my guess.

[XS29L9Bxxxxxx]

Summit isn't on that website but thanks for the link none the less. And Jim Shine said that it was summit radials which where bias ply. So yes it was radials but where bias ply.

Thank you and Peace

...there are radial tires and then there are bias ply tires. Not one in the same. Tires in pic look to be bias ply tires.

I bought 14" tires for my Charger, which were made by BFG. They are 225 width, I think. Or was that 215  It's been some time since I looked 

[TUFCAT]

I had 225's on my 68 and they look different.  The one on the GL looks more like what I had on my 69 so 215 is my guess.

After seeing Dino's post, I'm agreeing with his guess on the 215/70 size.    Those bias belted tires of the era tend to look smaller than same sized radials (especially at this angle) because they don't bulge at the sidewall near the shoulder as much.  The tread width does appear to be the same.  

[HPP]

Well, consider this, just laying a ruler on the picture above, the tread width is equal to the radius of the rim. That means its a 7" tread. That would be a hair shy if a 180mm tread width. Since a lot of radials are measured by sidewall width, add an inch to accomodate the sidewall bulge for an 8" width and that leaves you with 205mm tire. The difference between 205 and 215 is on .375 of an inch. Split that .375 between the two sides of the tire and it is only .1875 wider per side, or, IMO, not enough for anyone short of machinists, to actually notice a difference.

[triple_green]

when I researched the stock tire size for my 68 14" wheel the modern conversion for it was 215/70 14.

[knightprowl]

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[6bblgt]

Well, consider this, just laying a ruler on the picture above, the tread width is equal to the radius of the rim. That means its a 7" tread. That would be a hair shy if a 180mm tread width. Since a lot of radials are measured by sidewall width, add an inch to accomodate the sidewall bulge for an 8" width and that leaves you with 205mm tire. The difference between 205 and 215 is on .375 of an inch. Split that .375 between the two sides of the tire and it is only .1875 wider per side, or, IMO, not enough for anyone short of machinists, to actually notice a difference.

The first error in this calculation is the radius of a 14" wheel (above as 7") - it's actually 7-1/2" & that would make the tire 225.

Put an E70-14 (205/70/14), F70-14 (215/70/14), & G70-14 (225/70/14) all from the same manufacturer &tire line installed on the same wheel & then bolt them on the same car & although there are small dimensional differences between each size - the impact on the visual appearance is SIGNIFICANT!

One additional issue is that all 225/70/14 (G70-14) tires are NOT the same size.

[knightprowl]

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[Dreamcar]

Now I am confused. So its 225 and not 215? Which one is it? I think I will just go with 225 instead of 215. But regardless its still confusing me. So I really don't know which to pick. I know it is one or the other but which one I have no clue. So for now 225 it is until proven otherwise. But thanks for the help so far none the less guys.

Thank you and Peace.

Looking at pictures, it will be difficult for most people to know for sur between a 215 and 225. That only 10mm difference on a type of tire (bias ply) that is no longer manufactured. Even different brands can look different even though the sizes are supposed to be the same.

[XS29L9Bxxxxxx]

Well, consider this, just laying a ruler on the picture above, the tread width is equal to the radius of the rim. That means its a 7" tread. That would be a hair shy if a 180mm tread width. Since a lot of radials are measured by sidewall width, add an inch to accomodate the sidewall bulge for an 8" width and that leaves you with 205mm tire. The difference between 205 and 215 is on .375 of an inch. Split that .375 between the two sides of the tire and it is only .1875 wider per side, or, IMO, not enough for anyone short of machinists, to actually notice a difference.

I really do not follow what yo are trying to say.    A 205 width tire should equate to 205 mm, whereas a 255 width tire should be 255 mm or 25.5 cm. wide. Has nothing to due with sidewalk or other dimensions.  Now the aspect ratio of sidewalls is another factor in a tire size, but that's another subject. 

[HPP]

The first error in this calculation is the radius of a 14" wheel (above as 7") - it's actually 7-1/2" & that would make the tire 225.

Put an E70-14 (205/70/14), F70-14 (215/70/14), & G70-14 (225/70/14) all from the same manufacturer &tire line installed on the same wheel & then bolt them on the same car & although there are small dimensional differences between each size - the impact on the visual appearance is SIGNIFICANT!

One additional issue is that all 225/70/14 (G70-14) tires are NOT the same size.

Uh, okay. Since we're dealing with such high quality pictures, here, I guess I'm just negligent. You are welcome to clearly define the requested size for the OP.  

I really do not follow what yo are trying to say.   A 205 width tire should equate to 205 mm, whereas a 255 width tire should be 255 mm or 25.5 cm. wide. Has nothing to due with sidewalk or other dimensions.   Now the aspect ratio of sidewalls is another factor in a tire size, but that's another subject.  

Since everyone seemed to be guessing at the tire size, I was trying to reference a know dimension of the rim radius against the tread width to arrive at a metric size. Based on the quote above yours, I evidently discounted a 1/2" worth of dimension which will throw the whole calculations into an error.

IMO, even when I was 12, I always thought the GLs were way under tired and wondered why they went with such puny rubber. I don't see where the difference of a 215 vs 225 is enough to sweat the install on a car that really needs 255 minimum, but then again, I'm not in tune with the paint dab crowd either.