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Author Topic: Operation: My new Hemi Charger 500, 5th one built pilot pre-production.  (Read 848 times)
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« Reply #25 on: March 16, 2019, 06:59:24 PM »

I can not confirm or deny that this car is going to be in a magazine in the near future...

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« Reply #26 on: March 16, 2019, 07:19:40 PM »

IIRC there were two 69 Charger 500 PR vehicles,one Hemi automatic car,and one 4 speed car. The 4 speed car was stolen,and recovered and Cotton Owens ended up with it minus the drivetrain. Troys car is the automatic car featured on Road and Track.

Nice find, Troy!!  2thumbs

Cotton had nothing to do with the "stolen/recovered" PR Charger 500.

Here's the real story of the stolen/recovered PR Daytona: https://oppositelock.kinja.com/how-a-stolen-car-became-nascars-fastest-and-ended-up-1763429837




This information was first documented in 1995 by Frank Moriarty in his book "SUPERCARS - The story of the Dodge Charger Daytona and Plymouth Superbird".  He interviewed Frank Wylie, the head of PR at Chrysler at the time.  A great book to get, if you can find a copy on ebay or amazon. The story is on page 107.

  Keep in mind it was written 3 years before  I found the #88, chassis # DC-93, in Iowa, sitting in a field, in plain view.  In 1995, everyone thought the blue painted #88 at the Nascar Museum in Talladega was the real car!!  

Sorry to hijack the thread, Troy, but I have to keep Chrysler aero history correct.   2thumbs



So your car is the stolen 69 Charger 500. I had remembered reading that Cotton Owens had received a 69 Charger 500 that was missing the engine and transmission and the fenders,and I assumed that it was the stolen Charger 500 that Hot Rod had lost.

I can see how folks can be misled.

Cotton once claimed his #6 was the first stock car to break 200 with Baker driving.
That was disproved, especially when the ABC Wide World of Sports video showed up on Youtube of the 88 with Buddy at the wheel.
He then claimed that the #6 was the first car to break 200 during a race.
That was disproved when the historical account of the race was remembered in the August 1970 issue of Stock Car Racing Magazine.
Buddy's best race lap in the #6 was 198. and some change.  (For the record NO car got over 200 during that race)
Cotton claimed the #6 Daytona that Chrysler used on the show car circuit in 1970, and a few years after, was the Southern 500 winner with Buddy driving it, and was also the "200 during a race" car.
That was disproved and there was a thread on it here last year, with vintage photos and a vintage magazine article to prove it.

Are you seeing a pattern?

I'd take Frank Wylie's 1995 interview as gospel. Frank had nothing to gain financially by telling it.

Perhaps Hot Rod should do more due diligence prior to publishing stories.        
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« Reply #27 on: March 16, 2019, 11:04:43 PM »

Neato. One the previous heads said something like "very low miles". What does the odo say?
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« Reply #28 on: Yesterday at 08:03:54 AM »

Congrats, jealous for sure
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« Reply #29 on: Yesterday at 09:05:12 AM »

Nice options Gonna keep this one maybe ?

Is that cloth seat inserts ?

And If I may ask, what designates it as a PR car .
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« Reply #30 on: Yesterday at 11:23:15 AM »

That's awesome Troy! Cool car...still has the same wheel covers on it as in the road test?
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« Reply #31 on: Yesterday at 01:27:18 PM »

Nice options Gonna keep this one maybe ?

Is that cloth seat inserts ?

And If I may ask, what designates it as a PR car .

It is my understanding the first six were PR cars.. This is #5.. All Charger 500s start with 925XXX... this one is 925004
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« Reply #32 on: Yesterday at 01:38:32 PM »

She's home now... :-)



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« Reply #33 on: Yesterday at 03:16:02 PM »

Sweet! Congratulations! icon_smile_big
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« Reply #34 on: Yesterday at 05:59:32 PM »

Nice options Gonna keep this one maybe ?

Is that cloth seat inserts ?

And If I may ask, what designates it as a PR car .

It is my understanding the first six were PR cars.. This is #5.. All Charger 500s start with 925XXX... this one is 925004

Cool,

And to think I used to have a full set of 4 of those hubcaps NOS still in there brown paper bags
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« Reply #35 on: Yesterday at 06:24:43 PM »

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Cool,

And to think I used to have a full set of 4 of those hubcaps NOS still in there brown paper bags

Fiddle-sticks....  Grin
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« Reply #36 on: Yesterday at 06:27:46 PM »

She's home now... :-)



 scope  Awesome  drool5  dance  looking forward to seeing up dates & more pictures as & when  .. popcrn cheers
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« Reply #37 on: Yesterday at 10:59:23 PM »

Nice options Gonna keep this one maybe ?

Is that cloth seat inserts ?

And If I may ask, what designates it as a PR car .


Code # Y28 Should be Public Relations. Code # Y39 should be special order. LEON.
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« Reply #38 on: Today at 05:32:48 AM »

Nice options Gonna keep this one maybe ?

Is that cloth seat inserts ?

And If I may ask, what designates it as a PR car .


Code # Y28 Should be Public Relations. Code # Y39 should be special order. LEON.

Guess mine is a special order vehicle along with the other 5... Broadcast sheet reflects "Special Handling Car"


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« Reply #39 on: Today at 06:08:15 AM »

Nice score.  Will be interested in the numbers as you document this restoration.  Interesting it has the Small TRW pump vice Federal, but seems like some very early cars had it.  Also the Master Cylinder is not the traditional B body Hemi one.  Would be interesting to see what the date code on the tag is.  Good Luck and enjoy.
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« Reply #40 on: Today at 06:27:16 AM »

Nice score.  Will be interested in the numbers as you document this restoration.  Interesting it has the Small TRW pump vice Federal, but seems like some very early cars had it.  Also the Master Cylinder is not the traditional B body Hemi one.  Would be interesting to see what the date code on the tag is.  Good Luck and enjoy.

My guess is the booster and master cylinder are original to the car... Not that it means it 100%, but the master cylinder still has the silver tag on it. But, I will check the tag.... I'll check into the pump too.... It is missing the 90 degree adaptor on the steering gear box...
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