Over 100 years of engineering,

[b5blue]

 Engineering cars and I guess the men who craft our cars/trucks must never actually WORK or MAINTAIN what they designed? I just attempted an oil change on my 07 Dakota.
  When you drain the oil it flows onto a bracket that just catches the oil stream enough force dripping over a foot away. Next have the oil filter up inside to where you have no leverage unscrew it but have an oil ramp to catch dripping but further still blocking access. (SO never mind filter change for now.)
  Fill the oil, yea right. They have a nice large fill hole for the 3.7 V6 placed at the end of the pass. side valve cover. However it's 4 inches below a mess of pipes so you must make a funnel or dump oil everywhere trying to target the hole without a Norton bomb sight for your oil jug. 
  This stuff is stupid simple, move the oil drain 1/2 inch, have a 4 inch high extension for the fill hole and not block the filter with a big drip ramp and I'd had a fast service instead of a batch of "are you shitting me?" moments.       

[426HemiChick]

Hi b5blue,            29 March 2023

Welcome to the WOKE world!

Don't worry about oil and filter changes, soon we'll be lucky if we have bicycles to ride.

Credit our school system for turning out brilliant-not students.

Best Always
426 Hemi Chicks

[JB400]

It's pretty simple, only think about your job, and not anyone else's.

[426HemiChick]

Hi Folks,           30 March 2023

I look at our cars from the 60's through today. The newer cars are built for ease of assembly, not serviceability.

When I was a teenager I met a gentleman who was a gunsmith. He built custom rifles that were beautiful and functional. His son was a Chrysler design engineer. He told me his son said that if they can find a way to save a nickel on each car they will do it. Five cents didn't seem like much relative to a single car; in the totality of a production run the nickel became a significant factor.

Best Always
426 Hemi Chicks

[tan top]

anyone who has worked on old cars, & or even stripped our beloved chargers down to the very last nut bolt screw & clip many times can assemble it blind fold every thing come un done ( not talking about rusty siezed or cross threadded bolts screws ete & go back together perfect, you can have a empty charger body shell in a day if ya hustle ,   cars today even if you can find the part that needs replacing , your going to spend 2 days taking half the car appart to do it & a good chance of braking all types of plastic plugs clips  attaching parts that should never been made out of plastic to begin with , its not the fact your clumsey its the fact heat cycles hot cold,  atmosphere, sun uv , turn this crap wrong type of plastic brittle , coupled with a lot of the tine its click snap fit with barbs , it will snap / crack , fall to bits just thinking about being removed , touch me & im history type deal ,:icon_smile_blackeye:    seems half the  idiot desgin team are confusing real life with toy modles,they  should stay assembling  monogram 1 twenty fourth  scale car modles    , the other half of the  car desgining team are the idiots responsible for all the computers & 500 miles of wiring & other electrical crap that all of a sudden cars need this to function or its it the drivers today  need this  to drive , dont get me wrong new modern cars are fantastic , but they have been desgined the  materials used
 in the way they are used ! are made to  fail to keep selling cars new cars    this photo below is a particular favorite , just about sums it up       

[tan top]

sums it up        

[b5blue]

Exactly!

[375instroke]

Hi Folks,           30 March 2023

I look at our cars from the 60's through today. The newer cars are built for ease of assembly, not serviceability.

When I was a teenager I met a gentleman who was a gunsmith. He built custom rifles that were beautiful and functional. His son was a Chrysler design engineer. He told me his son said that if they can find a way to save a nickel on each car they will do it. Five cents didn't seem like much relative to a single car; in the totality of a production run the nickel became a significant factor.

Best Always
426 Hemi Chicks

Exactly.  That's what happened to the Pinto.  Engineering isn't about how good you can make something.  It's about how cheap you can make it.  They calculated it was cheaper to let some people die than to use a different fastener that wouldn't puncture the fuel tank.  When they'll make decisions like that, some spilt oil's nothing.

[b5blue]

  So I got an appropriate oil filter removal tool that looks kinda like a spider. Then the truck quit running, I jumped it then it next left me stranded on a 6 lane road 1/2 mile from home. 100.00 tow home and battery/starter checked OK so off to CJ's shop. Ignition relay replaced; bill 120.00 including 5 mile tow and part...Chuck is good!
  Still haven't replaced that filter yet!  Dakota must be pissed at my complaining.

[Tigger]

Automobiles are designed and engineered to be put together on assembly line cheap and as quick as possible. Serviceability is not a factor anymore. There is an engineer for every part of a vehicle, and the engineers do not sit together to brainstorm how to make it easier. Its done on a CAD system.

[WMopar71]

I knew a guy who suggested that engineers were often bullied in school and serviceability issues are a form of revenge.