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« Reply #40 on: September 14, 2009, 03:28:01 PM »

Bill Howell - I'm not sure if I ever commented on your car, but let me just say that I have been following your build since day one and I truly think you nailed it. Perfect color choices, the wheels are tits and overall look and feel is REALLY aggressive but not overdone, simply a beautiful car.

Pro-touring:
When I build a car I always ask myself a few questions BEFORE I even put out dollar one.
 - What am I going to do with this car?
 - Will it be 90% street, 10% track or vice versa or somewhere in between?
 - Will it simply be a daily driver?
 - Where, for the dollars I've allocated to the project, will that money go and how will it be best spent?
 - WHY am I building this car?

You can absolutely build a great handling, great stopping automobile without going crazy, the secret is going with proven parts that are proven to work with the combination you've chosen.

Example, when I did all the mods to the Charger 4 years ago, the formula was pretty aggressive. Today, it's considered to be very mild. We, upped the ante' a bit with the Daytona, but again, didn't go overly crazy. We looked at the Charger's short comings and modified the formula - same thing will happen with the next car. It's all "Live and Learn".

Lets be honest Mike, this is the wrong website for these type of discussions.
Why?

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« Reply #41 on: September 14, 2009, 03:46:19 PM »

These threads inevitably get disrupted by the guys that do not like these types of builds.  Just got old for me.  So I go to where you can gain the knowledge of the subject and also provide it.......much more productive.

For what its worth, there is a wealth of knowledge here also in plenty of other areas.
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« Reply #42 on: September 14, 2009, 04:12:17 PM »

...I go to where you can gain the knowledge of the subject and also provide it...

Where's that?

FWIW, I love my Charger. It's the best one in the world. 
Don't you feel that way about your own? I would be totally CRUSHED if I discovered that all the time I spent considering my combinations and thinking about what to do with it turned out to be just the same as everyone else's... I absolutely love to see and read about everyone else's cars, because their differences help me make decisions about my own. To each their own, I say, and nobody's personal enjoyment hinges on my approval of their build, no matter what style that is.
I already know my build. I don't know everything though, so every time I see somebody else do something I didn't, I learn something.
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« Reply #43 on: September 14, 2009, 04:22:52 PM »

Bill Howell - I'm not sure if I ever commented on your car, but let me just say that I have been following your build since day one and I truly think you nailed it. Perfect color choices, the wheels are tits and overall look and feel is REALLY aggressive but not overdone, simply a beautiful car.

Pro-touring:
When I build a car I always ask myself a few questions BEFORE I even put out dollar one.
 - What am I going to do with this car?
 - Will it be 90% street, 10% track or vice versa or somewhere in between?
 - Will it simply be a daily driver?
 - Where, for the dollars I've allocated to the project, will that money go and how will it be best spent?
 - WHY am I building this car?

You can absolutely build a great handling, great stopping automobile without going crazy, the secret is going with proven parts that are proven to work with the combination you've chosen.

Example, when I did all the mods to the Charger 4 years ago, the formula was pretty aggressive. Today, it's considered to be very mild. We, upped the ante' a bit with the Daytona, but again, didn't go overly crazy. We looked at the Charger's short comings and modified the formula - same thing will happen with the next car. It's all "Live and Learn".

Lets be honest Mike, this is the wrong website for these type of discussions.

let me chime in here..............

i agree that d/c is NOT the place for a pro-touring machine or a "modified machine". Members here prefer a car that has "original" brakes, suspension, tires wheels and so on. We G Machiners love to drive our cars but in today's standards. who here doesn't like a car so stop not good but exceptional? or accelerate not good but great and handle really well and have all the modern amenities of a modern day car. we all agree stock is nice, but realistically  we don't like 40 yr old technology in anything. i agree that there is a wealth of info here from old members to new school guys like myself. if you ask the right questions you will get answers....some of which your not going to like.  do your research here and other places there is allot you can do to these mopars. and when done well you will enjoy them better than ever. read poke ask plenty of questions there are plenty of guys here willing to help... TO MY FELLOW PRO-TOURING MEMBERS.....CHEERS TO YOU GUYS YOU'VE MADE OUR HOBBY ENJOYABLE
hammer down fellas see you on the road...blazing the pavement....... cheers
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« Reply #44 on: September 14, 2009, 04:31:42 PM »

I would say that any charger is welcome on the site, General Lee,old school,factory restorations,pro touring and whatever configuration that's out there.Not everyone is going to like all styles of restoration but no reason not to feel welcome. I have a black charger and i know not everyone likes black.  Twocents
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« Reply #45 on: September 14, 2009, 05:14:19 PM »

While my car isn't exactly a pro-touring car yet, It definitely resembles one as of now. I haven't gotten any negative comments from anyone on this forum yet about the styling of my car. While this may not be the place to look for your custom one off technical problems, it still has a ton of information that you can use. Even If you car totally custom, there are still things that this forum could help you with. Most people here are pretty tolerant from what I have seen.
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« Reply #46 on: September 14, 2009, 06:19:46 PM »

IMHO Pro Touring Chargers should get the same treatment given to GLs or Pro Street cars or any other variation  - it's fine to talk about it here sometimes.  Just be willing to take some disagreement in stride, and don't clog up the forums for everyone else with too many threads about it at once.

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« Reply #47 on: September 14, 2009, 07:47:45 PM »

If its a Charger 66-74 its welcome, any sort of build as mike has stated.

1 Thing I have learnt in my search for a guitar to suit my needs is this...

some shop owners/workers who also play guitar last 20-30 years down here in Australia will say and have said countless times "Maton (the guitar brand tommy emmanuel uses) is absolutely rubbish, they have no sound, they are poorly built etc you need to buy Martin's or Taylors.

Well big question is Why is the Best g uitarist in the world using a rubbish guitar then? Obviously it does what he needs as a player.

Sound is subjective, people say blackwood is total garbage others say maple is and others say rosewood is.

Some like round girls  eek some like slim girls others like them slightly built (gym girls *wink*)


The point here is that everyone will have an opinion. I say tall wheels are not good because a muscle car should look aggressive/tough, thats a 15" wheel. I also say to keep to that you need them nice and fat which means you need to mini tub the car to give the car the maximum "tough - Hulk" look.

Others will say "Yeah but 15" wheels cant break propperly and a lowered car with 17" wheels looks pro-touring, something that can handle any day of the week, so 15" wheels are pointless in todays environment"

Well...

Blonde, brunette or red head?

You get the idea.

There is no 1 fits all. Some like something, others like something else.

What I did learn however is, you cant go bad mouth another style of build simply because its not you. Thats like the shop owner bad mouthing Maton and yet the best guitarist in the world that does 320+ Shows per year (thats almost 7 days a week playing non stop) uses MATON, why the hell would he if it did suck? Yet the guy bad mouthing doesnt even do concerts or even close to as good a player as Tommy so who is he to bad mouth what the best player uses? However Maton isnt for everyone (like its not for me).

So, build what you like, to 1 man a 100 dollar guitar may sound 'exactly' how he wanted while another wont find the sound he wants till he spends 10 000. Is the 10k better? Not to the man that likes the sound of a $100 guitar.

Build what you like, stock, modified, pro stock, pro-touring, G-machine, 200 000 dollar car or 50 000 car. What suits you is the best. Opinions in the end mean nothing. If I buy a guitar based on what someone else says 'sounds tonaly correct' i will end up not happy with it. Thats why i have my "own ears" to hear what "I like". You have your own 'eyes' to see what you like. What you like, what your eyes say is beautiful, thats what you build and all else means nothing.

And the last thing I have figured is, if a question is asked about pro-touring build and the person replying isnt replying to answer the question asked as he doesnt know anything about it, just replying to say "thats a bad idea", yeah says who, you? shouldnt even reply as its nothing to do with what was asked.

Find what you like the look of and do it (ofcourse if something you like is actualy dangerous, then people should warn you why not to go that way and try be helpfull explaining things not just its bad looks horrible to me dont do it - educated reasons not personal taste opinions)

I say Ferrari is rubbish because it looks totaly retarded in the front, but its $300 000 dollar car. I say a 68 Dodge Charger is 'way better' (20 000 dollar car) than a Ferrari. So Mr rich man dont waste your money on a ferrari.

U see how things will work out if u went off opinions?

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« Reply #48 on: September 14, 2009, 08:22:51 PM »

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« Reply #49 on: September 14, 2009, 09:06:16 PM »

I have not gotten any negative comments about my Pro-Touring Charger yet...    except the fact it is not on the road yet   haha
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« Reply #50 on: September 14, 2009, 09:30:32 PM »

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« Reply #51 on: September 15, 2009, 04:38:06 PM »

VERY nice! cheers drool5 2thumbs
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