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Author Topic: Restoration of my B5 Blue 4Spd Charger 500... a long saga begins...  (Read 51752 times)
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« Reply #1025 on: October 22, 2009, 08:55:17 PM »

Besides magnumchargers story, The website 69hemi.com also shows the difficulty of the mopar repro sheetmetal.  It is very frustrating when my buddy buys his cheap chevy parts and they fit like a glove whereas our expensive mopar "authentic" stuff requires 30 hrs of body shop modifications to make them fit! Like magnum I thought that these oversights were ironed out by now, obviously not!

Thanks for the tip about the outer wheel house problem documented on 69Hemi.Com... it the exact same #$%@#! crap!  It is starting to look like the currently available outer wheel housings are all from the same tooling, and probably based on Coronet parts which are apparently different.

I am going to find out the truth about these "authentic reproductions"... this isn't close to being over!

Pictures below are from http://www.69hemi.com (in the "sheetmetal" section):

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Yes, that article is all true, but it seems like they dont even fit the Coronets to good either. If you look in the Sherman Catalog you'll see they use the same part # on those wheel wells for all B-Body's, A one size fits all Garbage. LEON.
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« Reply #1026 on: October 22, 2009, 10:36:52 PM »

Long thread, just read it now. I dont usually look in the Aero Section. Good luck on your Progress 2thumbs  LEON.
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« Reply #1027 on: October 23, 2009, 06:07:46 AM »

LOOKING GREAT BUDDY. kEEP THEM PICTURES COMING.  cheers

Cody

looking good  coolgleamA  keep the pictures coming , love looking at stuff  like this  2thumbs

Looks good  2thumbs

Thanks guys... glad to have y'all following the thread!

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« Reply #1028 on: October 23, 2009, 06:15:18 AM »

i've ran into that same problem many many times.

Yes, that article is all true, but it seems like they dont even fit the Coronets to good either. If you look in the Sherman Catalog you'll see they use the same part # on those wheel wells for all B-Body's, A one size fits all Garbage. LEON.

I will NEVER buy anything from Goodmark or the other bottom-feeder vendors again...   flame  flame  flame

It is great to finally have excellent quality repro parts from vendors like B/E&A, AMD, & CBD...  cheers  cheers  cheers
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« Reply #1029 on: October 23, 2009, 06:19:12 AM »

Keep it up Allen. She's looking real good coming along nicely.  2thumbs  Glad to hear things are going better. Get her put together I'm ready for a ride.  boogie

Thanks Dave... Since you recently re-qualified at Geno's Hemi 4 Speed Clinic, you can drive Blue Thunder!    drive  icon_smile_big
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« Reply #1030 on: October 23, 2009, 06:27:41 AM »

Long thread, just read it now. I dont usually look in the Aero Section. Good luck on your Progress 2thumbs  LEON.

Welcome to the thread Leon!  cheers

From the time stamps of your postings, that's about two hours of your life you'll never get back... sorry for the length...  Tongue

Check back in a few days, your input on my pre-paint inventories/checklist would be appreciated!

Allen
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« Reply #1031 on: October 23, 2009, 08:28:06 PM »

Hi Allen,
Glad to here things have turned around for you. Your car is looking great and you've made a lot of progress, I'm looking forward to more pictures. Also thanks for posting the link to the group buy on the recall wheels. I'll be ordering a set for my Road Runner.
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« Reply #1032 on: October 25, 2009, 08:54:50 AM »

Hi Allen,
Glad to here things have turned around for you. Your car is looking great and you've made a lot of progress, I'm looking forward to more pictures. Also thanks for posting the link to the group buy on the recall wheels. I'll be ordering a set for my Road Runner.
Brian

Thanks Brian, I am a bit surprised in the interest in the forum for the recall wheels... $1500/$1575 is a good deal IMO!

Allen
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« Reply #1033 on: October 25, 2009, 09:47:07 AM »

It is taking me longer than I expected to  find , resize, and label the "inventory" pictures.  The task may take me another week or so to complete.  My electrician and another friend came over yesterday to do more wiring and shelving in my "new" shop annex, so good progress was made!  cheers

Today I will post pictures of the areas of my main concern for missing brackets and wiring retainer straps.  All of these should be common to any 1969 Charger, so please have a look in yours if you have one where these areas are accessable.  This area is the taillight panel and trunk area...  I am only listing items that are likely to have been removed during the extensive body work in the area.  The pictures are from the C500 disassembly and my Y2 Charger R/T project car...

TAILLIGHT PANEL & TRUNK AREA:

TB1,TB2,TB3 - Exterior taillight panel three prong wiring retainers
TB4,TB5,TB6,TB7 - Interior taillight panel single tab wiring retaining straps
TB8 - Aft bumper jack mount
TB9,TB11,TB12 - Dual tab wiring retaining straps in wiring channel formed into trunk floor extension
TB10 - Bumper spring mounting bracket
TB13,TB14,TB18 - Single tab wiring retaining straps along wheel housing
TB15,TB16,TB17 - Spare tire mounting brackets/standoffs
TB19 - Fwd bumper jack mounting cradle


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« Reply #1034 on: October 25, 2009, 09:51:22 AM »

TAILLIGHT PANEL & TRUNK AREA:

TB1,TB2,TB3 - Exterior taillight panel three prong wiring retainers
TB4,TB5,TB6,TB7 - Interior taillight panel single tab wiring retaining straps
TB8 - Aft bumper jack mount
TB9,TB11,TB12 - Dual tab wiring retaining straps in wiring channel formed into trunk floor extension
TB10 - Bumper spring mounting bracket
TB13,TB14,TB18 - Single tab wiring retaining straps along wheel housing
TB15,TB16,TB17 - Spare tire mounting brackets/standoffs
TB19 - Fwd bumper jack mounting cradle


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« Reply #1035 on: October 25, 2009, 09:56:02 AM »

A few more trunk area pics...

TAILLIGHT PANEL & TRUNK AREA:

TB1,TB2,TB3 - Exterior taillight panel three prong wiring retainers
TB4,TB5,TB6,TB7 - Interior taillight panel single tab wiring retaining straps
TB8 - Aft bumper jack mount
TB9,TB11,TB12 - Dual tab wiring retaining straps in wiring channel formed into trunk floor extension
TB10 - Bumper spring mounting bracket
TB13,TB14,TB18 - Single tab wiring retaining straps along wheel housing
TB15,TB16,TB17 - Spare tire mounting brackets/standoffs
TB19 - Fwd bumper jack mounting cradle


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« Reply #1036 on: October 25, 2009, 10:03:05 AM »

Allen Allen Allen........ She is looking straight as an arrow.....  2thumbs

I second the notion Allen, great job. Your determination is really paying off. I do think she would look great next to this green 4-speed C500 in Michigan. I actually think there is enough room for them to sit comfortably and enjoy each others company.

Take care,
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« Reply #1037 on: October 25, 2009, 10:43:53 AM »

Allen Allen Allen........ She is looking straight as an arrow.....  2thumbs

I second the notion Allen, great job. Your determination is really paying off. I do think she would look great next to this green 4-speed C500 in Michigan. I actually think there is enough room for them to sit comfortably and enjoy each others company.

Take care,
Steve

Thanks Steve... but I have no plans to buy your C500 and move to Michigan...  nana   icon_smile_wink

I do like your car tho...  yesnod

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« Reply #1038 on: October 25, 2009, 11:31:41 AM »

Allen Allen Allen........ She is looking straight as an arrow.....  2thumbs

I second the notion Allen, great job. Your determination is really paying off. I do think she would look great next to this green 4-speed C500 in Michigan. I actually think there is enough room for them to sit comfortably and enjoy each others company.

Take care,
Steve

Thanks Steve... but I have no plans to buy your C500 and move to Michigan...  nana   icon_smile_wink

I do like your car tho...  yesnod

Allen

Good comeback Allen, although the fall colors are looking very nice this time of year.

Did you notice the nice cozy carpet in the "man cave".

Thanks,

Another pic showing the front, still have some more work cleaning and decorating to make it the way it should be in there.



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« Reply #1039 on: October 25, 2009, 11:49:09 AM »

Good comeback Allen, although the fall colors are looking very nice this time of year.

Did you notice the nice cozy carpet in the "man cave".

Thanks,

Another pic showing the front, still have some more work cleaning and decorating to make it the way it should be in there.

Your "man cave" looks great Steve... much more comfy than mine.

Its the Winter colors in Dec thru Feb that I might have a problem with...  icon_smile_big
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« Reply #1040 on: October 25, 2009, 12:01:19 PM »

Attached are a few current pictures that Greg sent to me... Looks like some wiring retainers are missing, and those present are some sort of universal part.  BTW, all of this is the handiwork of the old bodyshop... not Greg's!

Also, does anyone know of a source for repros of the various wiring retaining straps...?... see the last picture below.

Allen

Edit - CORRECTION on 12/3/2009 @ 5:10 PM CST... I have been told the universal appearing retainers on the driver's side trunk floor extension were on it when it was recieved from AMD... I will look into it and update again...

Allen


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« Reply #1041 on: October 26, 2009, 08:21:28 AM »


Also, does anyone know of a source for repros of the various wiring retaining straps...?


Anyone know of a source?...  Or if used ones are the only option... Also, did I find all of the locations that the taillight wiring harness is secured in the trunk/taillight panel area? Huh  shruggy
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« Reply #1042 on: October 26, 2009, 08:53:30 AM »


Also, does anyone know of a source for repros of the various wiring retaining straps...?


Anyone know of a source?...  Or if used ones are the only option... Also, did I find all of the locations that the taillight wiring harness is secured in the trunk/taillight panel area? Huh  shruggy
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Allen, I bielieve Jamie at MegaParts should be able to help you with the straps and stuff. They are open from 2pm til 8pm ......608 452 2046 ask for Jamie
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« Reply #1043 on: October 26, 2009, 10:25:45 AM »


Also, does anyone know of a source for repros of the various wiring retaining straps...?


Anyone know of a source?...  Or if used ones are the only option... Also, did I find all of the locations that the taillight wiring harness is secured in the trunk/taillight panel area? Huh  shruggy
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Allen, I bielieve Jamie at MegaParts should be able to help you with the straps and stuff. They are open from 2pm til 8pm ......608 452 2046 ask for Jamie

Thanks Brian,  I will give Jamie a call.  Their online catalog appears to have one of the retainers...
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« Reply #1044 on: October 26, 2009, 12:11:30 PM »

Keep up the good work.
Hope to see it at monster mopar in a couple years  2thumbs
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« Reply #1045 on: October 27, 2009, 05:58:46 AM »

Hope to see it at monster mopar in a couple years  2thumbs

So do I Quintin...  yesnod

I spoke with Jamie yesterday, and he had a look at the pictures that I posted on the wiring retainers... Jamie will see what he has for the trunk area routing.

Also, I received a new batch of pictures this morning showing preparation for the re-install of the rear window plug... the C500 should be going aero again soon.  I post more pictures as time permits...

Allen
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« Reply #1046 on: October 27, 2009, 01:55:40 PM »

Hope to see it at monster mopar in a couple years  2thumbs

So do I Quintin...  yesnod

I spoke with Jamie yesterday, and he had a look at the pictures that I posted on the wiring retainers... Jamie will see what he has for the trunk area routing.

Also, I received a new batch of pictures this morning showing preparation for the re-install of the rear window plug... the C500 should be going aero again soon.  I post more pictures as time permits...

Allen

Allen , At the point Im at in my project Id love to see those pics. I hope he took a bunch.
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The C500 is looking great as usual Allen! cheers
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« Reply #1048 on: October 28, 2009, 05:40:09 AM »

Hope to see it at monster mopar in a couple years  2thumbs

So do I Quintin...  yesnod

I spoke with Jamie yesterday, and he had a look at the pictures that I posted on the wiring retainers... Jamie will see what he has for the trunk area routing.

Also, I received a new batch of pictures this morning showing preparation for the re-install of the rear window plug... the C500 should be going aero again soon.  I post more pictures as time permits...

Allen

Allen , At the point Im at in my project Id love to see those pics. I hope he took a bunch.

Brian - I will post the pictures as soon as I can, but I had to work late yesterday... maybe tonight.  Or, if you like, I could forward the full size pictures via email.

Also, I have a lot of pictures from the dis-assembly of the C500... I think I posted a few many pages ago in this thread.  I can send full size of those as well... but I hope you have high-speed internet access!

Let me know what you need...  popcrn
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« Reply #1049 on: October 28, 2009, 05:46:18 AM »

Brian - Have a look at about page 19 for pics like this:

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