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1969 Dodge Daytona Bobby Allison Racer - Mecum Auction

Started by maxwellwedge, January 08, 2010, 09:20:07 AM

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68X426

Weren't nearly all them acid dipped? Or at least stripped bare? More good work Sherlock. :yesnod:


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learical1

Quote from: Aero426 on January 19, 2011, 12:53:49 PM
Whomever built it must not have had access to a proper 8 3/4 rear end.


I spy what appears to be rear disc brakes.  Nascar was 4 Wheel Drums back in 1970-1971.
Bruce

Aero426

Quote from: 68X426 on January 19, 2011, 12:54:46 PM
Weren't nearly all them acid dipped? Or at least stripped bare? More good work Sherlock. :yesnod:

The Ford and Mopar factory cars from this time were built from bare bodies in primer dip.   The bodies in the photos are "waiting to become".


70Sbird

Quote from: learical1 on January 19, 2011, 12:58:47 PM
Quote from: Aero426 on January 19, 2011, 12:53:49 PM
Whomever built it must not have had access to a proper 8 3/4 rear end.


I spy what appears to be rear disc brakes.  Nascar was 4 Wheel Drums back in 1970-1971.
So is that a 9" Ford rear with the spring hangers welded to the rear rails? I'm cerainly no expert on wing cars, I've had one for almost 10 years now and am still learning, but even I can see this car is a complete turd, cobbled out of a seemingly decent charger.
Richard Petty signed my dash so maybe i should auction my car as his long-lost street "test" vehicle! it's even blue!
Nice looking Vette in the background though!
Scott

Scott Faulkner

C5HM

I really dig the angle iron cross member mounts. Why didn't Nichels think of that? So simple, just like the jitterbug, it plumb evaded him (with apologies to Jimmy Buffett), I guess. And, say, aren't those air shocks? Sweet. Wonder why Rossi needed extensions on the top shock mounts, though? Must have been to gain extra height for the mower deck. I am sure that Rossi left the dum-dum in place to improve the bass response of the stereo...it is all about the music after all. Or, maybe it was to break the boundry layer of air under the car just like Petty's '68 crinkle Road Runner roof?...Yeah...that's the ticket!  But, of course, the best are those disc brakes. That Rossi guy was a real trend setter. Years, in fact, ahead of his time and the rules book.  The late model style panhard rod is another cutting edge addition that Mario must have come up with. Say, maybe he was a time traveller? And, I am so sure that Ronnie Householder was just fine and dandy with that F-O-R-D differential under his factory backed DODGE chassis...right?  And that really low hanging, late model style, fuell cell well must have been another of Rossi's "aero-tricks" (just like the tunnel back rear window and the low hanging "parachute" style lower shock mounts). Sure looks like a real speed secret to me.

The Russo folks have been made aware of the car's shortcomings and the errors in their own "historical" recitation. And yet the listing remains unmodified.  Hmmm.

Aero426

The A-pillar down bar on the cage should be welded to the A-pillar of the body.    This setup as shown is very strange.


Aero426

Word from the auction is the car has a street car VIN on the dashboard.   


68X426

Quote from: C5HM on January 21, 2011, 07:57:41 PM
Hemi car no doubt.
:lol:

:slap:

Try to keep up, it's an alleged Rossi built 305 NASCAR small block.


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Richard Cranium

No doubt the hook on the roll bar is to hang an extra driving suit on.  :o


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Aero426

Quote from: 68X426 on January 21, 2011, 08:56:15 PM
Quote from: C5HM on January 21, 2011, 07:57:41 PM
Hemi car no doubt.
:lol:

:slap:

Try to keep up, it's an alleged Rossi built 305 NASCAR small block.

Oh don't worry, he's up to speed all right.    :smilielol:  

C5HM

Doug, I guess my humor (complete with happy face, even) was a bit too subtle for some. *sigh*

It will be interesting to see what the turd garners tonight. Did you see that the Bud Moore Torino was a no sale @ $155,000.00...and that's a real deal car? I did not see what Dave Tom's Monte Carlo brought. But I am imagining it is less than that.

I find the fact that Alcazar is ignoring both his physical senses, first person complaints and the opprobrium of the web to still feature the "test" Daytona (at the auction) a very disappointing result. Makes me feel like Diogenes again.

Of course, I am probably the bigger fool looking for honesty in the carney, car auction world in the first place.

What I will never understand is how someone could have the stones to snooker Bobby Allison (burdened as he is by the lasting effects of his racing shunts) into adopting that car as the real deal.  It is just criminal.

69_500

I realize that many of the auctions can't know everything that there is to know about every auto that crosses their stage. But just a little bit of research and even my 7 year old sitting here on my lap can tell you that this car isn't legit. He noticed things about the car that aren't right. I can't believe that someone who was willing to spend any of their own money would buy this car. Its crazy.

Aero426

Perhaps if you make a large enough sign, people will believe the "FACTS".

Interesting that the best they could do for a photo is Bobby in a Buick.

Thanks to Diego for the photo.


C5HM

You have to admit, the signage does a great job of hiding the turd's butt ugly beak.

And why would they want any comparison shots of a real car anyway?  That wouldn't really , ahem, profit them in any way, would it?

elacruze

Quote from: C5HM on January 22, 2011, 04:13:10 PM
You have to admit, the signage does a great job of hiding the turd's butt ugly beak.


Chickenhawk.
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C5HM

That bird has a better looking beak than the Daytona for sure. And more authentic, to boot.

Brads70

Quote from: Richard Cranium on January 21, 2011, 09:04:17 PM
No doubt the hook on the roll bar is to hang an extra driving suit on.  :o



It's a helmet hook.
http://pitstopusa.com/i-5067350-allstar-performance-helmet-hook-1-1-2-diameter-bar.html
What that car needs is a big shovel ......... for all the bull  $$$$ ! What a horrible job!  :puke:


Aero426

The seller must be doing cartwheels.

What did PT Barnum say?

68X426



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2013 Dodge Challenger RT, Hemi, Plum Crazy
2014 Ram 4x4 Hemi, Deep Cherry Pearl
1968 Dodge Charger, 318, not much else
1958 Dodge Pick Up, 383, loud
1966 Dodge Van, /6, slow

C5HM

Watched the auction on the web. Hadn't seen it before, but noticed that the turd still had its chrome factory gas cap in place. That must have really speeded up those pit stops at the track. HA!

I never really had much respect for Alcazar before tonight. He always struck me as a snake oil selling kind of fellow. I have no respect whatsoever for him now after he pimped the P.O.S. hard to the crowd. He stopped the bidding (lack luster as it was), held up poor old misguided Bobby Allison's "letter of authentication" and laid all of his and Allison's credibility on the line by asserting the car was the real deal, without doubt. At least Mecum had the good taste to simply hustle the the monstrosity across the stage as quickly as possible. After his R&S performance, there is just no doubt about Alcazar's complete lack of ethics and total whore status. I really hope the new owner (if the sale was genuine...which remains to be seen) sues the Hell out R&S when he discovers just how bogus the car is. And that won't take long.

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C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
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Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html