Barn Find! 1969 Dodge Daytona Charger Discovered In Alabama!
Written by Johnny Hunkins on November 17, 2015
http://www.hotrod.com/cars/barn-finds/1511-barn-find-1969-dodge-daytona-charger-discovered-in-alabama/
cool picture found on the same page as the Daytona story
What a find. :2thumbs: there's still got to be more out there somewhere. It's only a matter of finding it and then trying to convince the owner to sell it. Both equally hard and almost impossible.
It's nice to know they are still out there to be found. Cool story.
Dave
QuoteWe know that relatively few Daytonas were built with bucket seats, automatic transmission, and a console, and this is one of them.
really? I have seen more equipped this way than any other way
I wonder how many are left unaccounted for :scratchchin:
Quote from: JB400 on November 18, 2015, 01:48:43 AM
I wonder how many are left unaccounted for :scratchchin:
137. :o
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love the stick on flames
I would get it running and drive it 'as is' flames included :2thumbs:
What a find.......would be neat to see pictures of the Daytona from back in the day before it went underground.
Looks as if it had a half-vinyl top at one time....
Quote from: JB400 on November 18, 2015, 01:48:43 AM
I wonder how many are left unaccounted for :scratchchin:
As a side note, there is no guarantee this is an unaccounted one. Cars have been tracked for 40 years. Quite a few from the early days of the hobby have dropped off the radar screen. This could be one of those. Hopefully it is a new one.
Chances are it sold new in AL .Run the vins into old club records to narrow it down
355108 251 al Mills Dodge Decatur, Al 8/28/1969
355143 326 al Bill Strange Birmingham, Al 8/29/1969
355150 55 al Bill Strange Dodge Birmingham, Al 8/24/1969
355152 308 al Bill Strange Birmingham, Al 8/28/1969
358403 114 al Bill Strange Dodge Birmingham, Al 8/24/1969
381553 184 al Woodson Jones Dodge Scottsboro, Al 8/26/1969
398855 427 al Liberty Motors Birmingham, Al 9/3/1969
405184 193 al Crown Motors Gadsden Al 8/26/1969
409055 446 al Eaberhart Nunn Anniston, Al 9/3/1969
409056 303 al Jim Pruitt Taledega, Al 8/28/1969
409057 195 al Huntsville Dodge Huntsville, Al 8/26/1969
Great pictures and thanks for sharing.
Man that is cool !
(http://image.hotrod.com/f/160292288+w660+h495+q80+re0+cr1/009-1969-dodge-daytona-barn-find-rear.jpg)
Why the secrecy over the price? :shruggy:
Better yet, why let the moss grow on it in the first place!
After pouring over these pics I had to go look at some nice ones as therapy...
Quote from: Dave Kanofsky on November 19, 2015, 01:42:52 PM
Better yet, why let the moss grow on it in the first place!
After pouring over these pics I had to go look at some nice ones as therapy...
:lol:
I wondering what happened to the Superbird that hit a hog that they put a roadrunner front end on it :shruggy: :popcrn:
Does anyone have the info on this one is it in the Data base
I am sure Red with white and black stripes was the most common color combo
You would need to supply the VIN to know if that exact car had been reported to them before.
Hard to check without knowing the cars legal name.
Hexagon grille screen !! :o
It could be one of 2 daytonas from bill strange dodge
??? ??? HOG HIT 440- 6 PACK ??? ???
??? WHO HAS ALL THEIR DUCKS IN A ROW TO GO AFTER A 44O 6PACK SUPERBIRD??? ???
Who's got the cash,premission so no wife war,an location,location,location to run down some leads an save that bird.Even needing nose ,sheet metal an maybee unibody repair,440 6 pack is a prize.
Link above has lots of clues,,Charlies Classis Cars-- Irvington,Al. --- last name Lyons ???
Guy selling a 70 Chevelle LS6- in near by town ???
He may bee not answering business phone,after story got out,hunt up his shop . or hunt up all 70 LS6 chevelle adds,not a long list ??? GOOD LUCK AN GET HUNTING,,DJ WEST COAST :2thumbs:
Looks like a Hog hit the front of the Daytona
definitly not a HOG hit on tona..HOGS are so solid they are bout the worst animal to hit like hitting a bloulder they go under car an destory the front end on the way. :2thumbs:
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pictures from HOTROD
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Wonder how many creature's they took home with them?
Quote from: tan top on November 25, 2015, 02:52:37 PM
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(http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=120903.0;attach=250234;image)
(http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=120903.0;attach=250235;image)
After looking at the wing & engine compartment. I have to ask if by chance, this guy is the owner.....
(https://liveforfilms.wordpress.com/files/2009/09/swampthing.jpg)
Apparently it's going to auction in January...
https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-229950/0/1969-Dodge-Daytona/Automatic/
Staged in a new "barn find" setting for a professional photo shoot and marketing purposes.
This is the new M.O. Find the car. Buy the car. Get Hot Rod, MCG or (insert publication here) to write it up with the usual tear jerker, "I've always wanted a Daytona" story. Then consign it and hire the pro photographer to take the glamour shots complete with lighting. Overall, I find it distasteful.
The cow was a nice touch. They should have put a couple chickens on the wing.
Quote from: Aero426 on December 07, 2015, 04:45:59 PM
Staged in a new "barn find" setting for a professional photo shoot and marketing purposes.
This is the new M.O. Find the car. Buy the car. Get Hot Rod, MCG or (insert publication here) to write it up with the usual tear jerker, "I've always wanted a Daytona" story. Then consign it and hire the pro photographer to take the glamour shots complete with lighting. Overall, I find it distasteful.
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Hope the profits go to the guy that stored it for years... HA! Like that will happen. :rotz:
Quote from: Aero426 on December 07, 2015, 04:45:59 PM
Overall, I find it distasteful.
:yesnod: :yesnod: :mad: :mad:
I like the fresh greenery casually tossed onto the engine as if it were there all along. I've quite had my fill of "barn" finds, the term has become as appealing to me as frame off restorations of unibody cars or survivors with rusted 1/4's and repainted fenders.
Quote from: Ghoste on December 08, 2015, 08:59:18 AM
I've quite had my fill of "barn" finds, the term has become as appealing to me as frame off restorations of unibody cars or survivors with rusted 1/4's and repainted fenders.
I've always wanted a Daytona huh. Ya right you will never own one as obviously money is more important. Just another flipper. This was a cool story at first with potential that went downhill fast today for me anyway. I agree the barn find thing is definitely worn out although this appeared closer to a real one than most. Most times they are about some I want to be famous guy that stumbles across something the owner and the relatively local crowd knows exactly what it is. But the whole rest of the world does not know about it so he feels it is his duty to blab about it to the entire world. Too bad this did not go to someone who genuinely wanted a wing car. Now it is probably out of the range of the average person. Be curious what it does sell for. Wrong guy / right place I guess you could say. :down:
Story would have a completely different ending if I was the one who had drug it out of the barn.
:iagree: I just saw it is going to mecum auction in January they said it should go as high as 180 Thousand as is
Different ending X3
"As is",...They'll definitely need to wash their hands before they contaminate (push in) :lol: the next ride. Flee collar might come in handy. :D
:RantExplode: So with the scum=bag DISCLAIMERS they can sell it with lots of made-up half turths an stupid info an guesstamation,an all is covered ?? Saying the seller or aution company did or said that not me??? :brickwall: :brickwall: :RantExplode:
drivers seat says 200,020 k to 5 hundred thousand miles to me??
that tona sheet metal could bee paper thin with rust,setting that low an long in dirt ??
what is the statement they STABILIZED THE INTERIOR ??? ??? TRYED TO COVER MOUSE PISS?
GOOD LUCK TO NEW BUYER, do lots of inspecting ?? shame on lier a-holes DJ :brickwall:
QuoteQuote from: Aero426 on December 07, 2015, 03:45:59 PM
Overall, I find it distasteful.
yesnod yesnod mad mad
Very disappointing to see a premier auction house hosting this fakery, but I guess that's sales 101.
Does anyone really think a plain jane 440/auto will bring the estimated $150-180K? Even with the hype and lubricated sales job I don't think it will even be close.
On second thought maybe I should take a lesson from this. I'm going to park the 500 under the pine trees for a year, piss on the carpet, and let the air out of the tires.
Mecum and early retirement here I come!
look what Big Willie's sold for, I dont see this one going for 180k
Quote from: Davtona on December 08, 2015, 10:15:31 PM
Quote from: Ghoste on December 08, 2015, 08:59:18 AM
I've quite had my fill of "barn" finds, the term has become as appealing to me as frame off restorations of unibody cars or survivors with rusted 1/4's and repainted fenders.
I've always wanted a Daytona huh. Ya right you will never own one as obviously money is more important. Just another flipper. This was a cool story at first with potential that went downhill fast today for me anyway. I agree the barn find thing is definitely worn out although this appeared closer to a real one than most. Most times they are about some I want to be famous guy that stumbles across something the owner and the relatively local crowd knows exactly what it is. But the whole rest of the world does not know about it so he feels it is his duty to blab about it to the entire world. Too bad this did not go to someone who genuinely wanted a wing car. Now it is probably out of the range of the average person. Be curious what it does sell for. Wrong guy / right place I guess you could say. :down:
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Yup, I'm ruining the hobby one neglected vehicle at a time. I guess I'll just have to live with that burden.
I am as well disgusted by this. Geoff Stunkard and I were talking about all the BS going on with this car. And there is stuff on the Aero Warriors Facebook page with more information on the guy who bought and is now flipping the car. One of the reasons I never reveal the location or information behind the cars I find.
It will not get anywhere near what they are asking, and them making up barn find pictures just to sell the car, when there are pictures of the car "as found" is just terrible.
So it's not a real Barn find? LEON.
Quote from: hemi-hampton on December 11, 2015, 09:19:27 PM
So it's not a real Barn find? LEON.
It was a "barn find" persay. I forget what they call those car buildings with a roof and no sides, not a lean-to. It was bought by a Chevy guy and known flipper. I don't know the details, but he paid enough for the owner to sell it to him. And now he's flipping it at Mecum.
It is sad and disappointing that it he didn't sell to someone who would put the love into it and keep it. I can only imagine what the owner must feel like now. It is a terrible, terrible thing this guy did.
(http://image.hotrod.com/f/160292288+w660+h495+q80+re0+cr1/009-1969-dodge-daytona-barn-find-rear.jpg)
SO, Is the picture you just posted above how or where it was originally found? If so not exactly a barn. I think some call those Carports. Reminds me of a unrestored original 68 Dart I seen in a Carport in Alabama. I ask my sister to pull over & I want to knock on door & see if for sale. Old people like to use carports so I tell my sister I bet a old lady owns it. She sez no, I doubt it. SO, I knock on door and a old lady like 70 answers door & I think yeah, I was right, old lady owns it. I ask if she owns Dart & she sez no, Her Mother owns it, which is like 90 something. I say is it for sale & she gets Her Mother & she sez Yes, She'll sell it. I meet her at back door & she starts it, pops hood ect. Ends up a Dart 270 with 273 V8 if I remember right, low miles like 50 or 60 k. Original Plastic still on seats & interior mint. All under hood original except maybe Battery & belts. She sez she wants $1,500. No funds on me at the time but when I come back with funds many months later car is gone. Bummer. LEON.
Why is Mopar Muscle Magazine continuing to prop up this car with new web videos of the car in the "fake" barn setting, complete with barnyard sounds? The seller must be LOVING the thousands of dollars worth of FREE advertising for the upcoming auction. :2thumbs:
Quote from: Aero426 on December 15, 2015, 11:05:35 AM
Why is Mopar Muscle Magazine continuing to prop up this car with new web videos of the car in the "fake" barn setting, complete with barnyard sounds? The seller must be LOVING the thousands of dollars worth of FREE advertising for the upcoming auction. :2thumbs:
It's a long story. I agree it is ridiculous. But Mopar Muscle needs as much help as it can get. So they are milking it for all its worth sadly.
A carport! That's it. Had that rattling around in the old noggin, just couldn't pull the right word. From what I understand it wasn't always under the carport, it was sitting outside for a while, and it was in a barn at one time.
It is very disappointing the whole $hit show with this car.
Ryan
Quote from: Devil on December 15, 2015, 03:18:36 PM
It's a long story. I agree it is ridiculous. But Mopar Muscle needs as much help as it can get. So they are milking it for all its worth sadly.
If getting web hits are more important than telling the REAL story, I really don't want to read it.
made FOX News also
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2015/12/14/barn-find-16-dodge-daytona-charger-doesnt-run-but-is-worth-ton/
i just saw it too ,383 wing. Fox News an KVAL .com on the west coast. Using the barn pic with the round bails behind it. i know the weather guy here ,he is also a car guy they had him repeting the fake barn story an super value of the as is super valuable find. i call the news office ,they said wood check out the info.Basicly like we dont care,asked no name or info of my info.
SO BULL STORY IS NEWS ON THE WEST COAST AN NO ONE GIVES A DAMM BOUT THE TRUTH??? ???? DJ,OREGON
Quote from: djcarguy on December 16, 2015, 03:01:04 AM
i just saw it too ,383 wing. Fox News an KVAL .com on the west coast. Using the barn pic with the round bails behind it. i know the weather guy here ,he is also a car guy they had him repeting the fake barn story an super value of the as is super valuable find. i call the news office ,they said wood check out the info.Basicly like we dont care,asked no name or info of my info.
SO BULL STORY IS NEWS ON THE WEST COAST AN NO ONE GIVES A DAMM BOUT THE TRUTH??? ???? DJ,OREGON
No, especially Fox News, they don't care about the truth. For a fluff piece like that, they just run with what ever they are given.
Ryan, did you take the original photos of it coming out of the carport?
Quote from: Aero426 on December 16, 2015, 10:38:35 AM
Ryan, did you take the original photos of it coming out of the carport?
Not I, I have nothing to do with Mopar Muscle. The editor and I do not see eye to eye. I know the people involved though.
We seem to have entered a High School senior class creative writing and photographing era. High on enthusiasm, low on substance, lower even on real meaning.
It seemed to have all started so simple. Folks would sometimes come on an hidden away gem. They have always been there.
Folks started looking for an angle when selling a neglected car. If it was not a gem it could be a "Barn Find :cheers:", at which point all the cars with rust, pitted chrome, or any other of a dozen or so faults made them a part of the club.
I applaud the enthusiasm, just as I applaud the enthusiasm of a High School debating club. But I would not want a High School debating club representing me in a legal matter before a judge.
If this works for sellers, great, good for them.
I think I have an understanding of the difference between a great story and a magazine fluff piece.
Quote from: Devil on December 12, 2015, 12:21:40 AM
It is sad and disappointing that it he didn't sell to someone who would put the love into it and keep it. I can only imagine what the owner must feel like now. It is a terrible, terrible thing this guy did.
Herein lies the problem with this crap. The owner was probably told it was being sold to "someone who would put the love into it and keep it." Yes I can only imagine what the guy that sold the car feels like. This is all fine it helps feed the egos of the look at me type guys who make it known to the world, makes for a great crap filled magazine article & then is great advertisement for the car flipper.
But what about the guy who had this car for so many years. Who was probably swindled in comparison to its current asking price but probably thought he completed the buyers dream. The same dream he had for many years I would guess. To own a real Daytona. Now he realizes it was all a line of crap just to get the car bought.
Shame on all involved in this.
Quote from: Davtona on December 16, 2015, 08:54:50 PM
Quote from: Devil on December 12, 2015, 12:21:40 AM
It is sad and disappointing that it he didn't sell to someone who would put the love into it and keep it. I can only imagine what the owner must feel like now. It is a terrible, terrible thing this guy did.
Herein lies the problem with this crap. The owner was probably told it was being sold to "someone who would put the love into it and keep it." Yes I can only imagine what the guy that sold the car feels like. This is all fine it helps feed the egos of the look at me type guys who make it known to the world, makes for a great crap filled magazine article & then is great advertisement for the car flipper.
But what about the guy who had this car for so many years. Who was probably swindled in comparison to its current asking price but probably thought he completed the buyers dream. The same dream he had for many years I would guess. To own a real Daytona. Now he realizes it was all a line of crap just to get the car bought.
Shame on all involved in this.
Dave, so I shouldn't' put you down for a subscription to Hot Rod next year?
Before lets say "Part 2" of the story came out. It was a great story. A relatively unknown Daytona was bought by a guy after it has been sitting for decades. So long that mold had accumulated on the wing. That's great. A) The car was saved. B) It was a cool story being a "Carport Find" C) The history. It would have been one of those stories a person can look back at and say, "See, there are still cool cars out there to be 'found' and they can be bought on occasion." I know I was excited reading about the car and the guy saving it, etc....
But I AGREE completely reading "Part 2", that it was all the ruse for a Chevy flipper to buy the car, sensationalize it, and flip it. It is a terrible thing, and makes everyone look bad.
Ryan
Quote from: Devil on December 16, 2015, 10:21:06 PM
Quote from: Davtona on December 16, 2015, 08:54:50 PM
Quote from: Devil on December 12, 2015, 12:21:40 AM
It is sad and disappointing that it he didn't sell to someone who would put the love into it and keep it. I can only imagine what the owner must feel like now. It is a terrible, terrible thing this guy did.
Herein lies the problem with this crap. The owner was probably told it was being sold to "someone who would put the love into it and keep it." Yes I can only imagine what the guy that sold the car feels like. This is all fine it helps feed the egos of the look at me type guys who make it known to the world, makes for a great crap filled magazine article & then is great advertisement for the car flipper.
But what about the guy who had this car for so many years. Who was probably swindled in comparison to its current asking price but probably thought he completed the buyers dream. The same dream he had for many years I would guess. To own a real Daytona. Now he realizes it was all a line of crap just to get the car bought.
Shame on all involved in this.
Dave, so I shouldn't' put you down for a subscription to Hot Rod next year?
Before lets say "Part 2" of the story came out. It was a great story. A relatively unknown Daytona was bought by a guy after it has been sitting for decades. So long that mold had accumulated on the wing. That's great. A) The car was saved. B) It was a cool story being a "Carport Find" C) The history. It would have been one of those stories a person can look back at and say, "See, there are still cool cars out there to be 'found' and they can be bought on occasion." I know I was excited reading about the car and the guy saving it, etc....
But I AGREE completely reading "Part 2", that it was all the ruse for a Chevy flipper to buy the car, sensationalize it, and flip it. It is a terrible thing, and makes everyone look bad.
Ryan
Ryan
Seems to me "part 2" was going on all the time including during "part 1" just nobody including the seller was aware of it. The Chevy flipper was telling the owner all along it was being sold to "someone who would put the love into it and keep it." That was a lie. The pictures flooding the web drew attention to the lie, the crap magazine article which was a lie, the staged auction which is a lie ALL fuel this type of bad publicity. It was on my local evening news tonight for Christ's sake. None of this has anything to do with saving a car it has to do with money / publicity in one form or another only.
No Hot Rod subscription since the 70's. And I'm not going to subscribe now because you are selling them pictures.
Quote from: Davtona on December 16, 2015, 11:05:56 PM
Quote from: Devil on December 16, 2015, 10:21:06 PM
Quote from: Davtona on December 16, 2015, 08:54:50 PM
Quote from: Devil on December 12, 2015, 12:21:40 AM
It is sad and disappointing that it he didn't sell to someone who would put the love into it and keep it. I can only imagine what the owner must feel like now. It is a terrible, terrible thing this guy did.
Herein lies the problem with this crap. The owner was probably told it was being sold to "someone who would put the love into it and keep it." Yes I can only imagine what the guy that sold the car feels like. This is all fine it helps feed the egos of the look at me type guys who make it known to the world, makes for a great crap filled magazine article & then is great advertisement for the car flipper.
But what about the guy who had this car for so many years. Who was probably swindled in comparison to its current asking price but probably thought he completed the buyers dream. The same dream he had for many years I would guess. To own a real Daytona. Now he realizes it was all a line of crap just to get the car bought.
Shame on all involved in this.
Dave, so I shouldn't' put you down for a subscription to Hot Rod next year?
Before lets say "Part 2" of the story came out. It was a great story. A relatively unknown Daytona was bought by a guy after it has been sitting for decades. So long that mold had accumulated on the wing. That's great. A) The car was saved. B) It was a cool story being a "Carport Find" C) The history. It would have been one of those stories a person can look back at and say, "See, there are still cool cars out there to be 'found' and they can be bought on occasion." I know I was excited reading about the car and the guy saving it, etc....
But I AGREE completely reading "Part 2", that it was all the ruse for a Chevy flipper to buy the car, sensationalize it, and flip it. It is a terrible thing, and makes everyone look bad.
Ryan
Ryan
Seems to me "part 2" was going on all the time including during "part 1" just nobody including the seller was aware of it. The Chevy flipper was telling the owner all along it was being sold to "someone who would put the love into it and keep it." That was a lie. The pictures flooding the web which drew attention to the lie, the crap magazine article which was a lie, the staged auction which is a lie ALL fuel this type of bad publicity. It was on my local evening news tonight for Christ's sake. None of this has anything to do with saving a car it has to do with money / publicity in one form or another only.
No Hot Rod subscription since the 70's. And I'm not going to subscribe now because you are selling them pictures.
Oh I'm sure it was going on the whole time. I'm sure the Chevy flipper whispered in the owners ear everything the he needed/wanted to hear so he could steal the car. And that's really unfortunate, like we all said. If it was going to be saved, we all wish it had gone to someone who would do right by the car.
The magazine probably didn't know about "Part 2" originally, otherwise they would have put it into the original article. They would love to have that kind of publicity with Mecum. If you notice though, other then a note in the description of the car about it being in Mopar Muscle in the November issue, everything is linked to the Mecum info, not the Mopar Muscle article. They missed out big time, but are trying still to capitalize on it as a "we have pictures too" kind of deal.
It's sad, unfortunate and disappointing all around. Now lets see what kinda $hit storm this causes.
Not just selling the pics, writing the story as well!
Quote from: Redbird on December 16, 2015, 01:34:13 PM
Folks started looking for an angle when selling a neglected car. If it was not a gem it could be a "Barn Find :cheers:", at which point all the cars with rust, pitted chrome, or any other of a dozen or so faults made them a part of the club.
Certainly regarding working an angle, there is a segment of BUYERS who enjoy the ride of "celebrity" status of their hunks of you know what.
A year ago, I was passed some "you won't believe this story" photos of a car that came out of a barn in the northeast. But it was with the request that I not share or publish them in the club newsletter as the purchaser wanted to make a "big splash" with the magazines, which indeed happened. In other words, "we" as a winged car group (I would surmise) were not important enough to break the story. That's fine, and certainly, I honored that request. Since then, the car has now made the circuit of the big shows and has been a hit. I hope it moves on to restoration.
In the not so old days, you couldn't wait to wash the detritus of poor storage off the car. Now, somehow it is fashionable to leave it in situ. Heaven forbid you disturb it while pushing the car to its spot at the show. The show audience far and away LOVES these cars. So as the saying goes, "the market is never wrong".
The point is, there seems to be some additional perceived value to owning a spectacular piece of barn porn with a compelling story. Call that additional value "blue sky", if you want. Restoration for some owners is a secondary concern, out there in the distance. Will be interesting with the Mecum to car to see if anyone bites on the story and bids to win.
http://abc7news.com/society/know-and-tell-rare-1969-dodge-charger-daytona-found-in-alabama-barn/1126954/
i thought i'd post it anyway. i hope it goes to a good home. i'm thinking they may be a little optimistic on the price they're hoping for. but, ya never know.
Being carried on CNN, with the bogus "barn" scene... :rotz:
http://money.cnn.com/2015/12/15/autos/dodge-charger-daytona-auction/index.html
Quote from: Aero426 on December 07, 2015, 04:45:59 PM
Staged in a new "barn find" setting for a professional photo shoot and marketing purposes.
This is the new M.O. Find the car. Buy the car. Get Hot Rod, MCG or (insert publication here) to write it up with the usual tear jerker, "I've always wanted a Daytona" story. Then consign it and hire the pro photographer to take the glamour shots complete with lighting. Overall, I find it distasteful.
X 1,000,000
I agree that this poor soul of a Daytona will get passed around. Unfortunately there are now a million "Richard Rawlins" rolling around lie and cheating their way around the car hobby for a quick buck. The marketing job of this car is as bad as the old used car salesman lies. Mopar Muscle is all washed up and is hanging by a thread, same fate that Popular Hot Rodding suffered at the hand of that idiot. I for one would love to find a Daytona or Superbird in this condition and the first thing, before I even bring it home, would be to wash it. These "barn finds" smell of death and look like crap. Ryan, I applaud what you do and really enjoy the pictures. I also like the fact that you have the integrity to keep the car secret. I have been to many of these auctions and the cars sit there with a few sentences on a piece of paper taped to the windshield. Most of the owners don't give a sh&t about the car enough to accompany it and talk about it. People buy these cars without driving them or laying on the ground to check out the rusty rockers yet they pay top dollar for them. It frustrates me to think about it. I do this hobby because I enjoy the cars, not to make a buck. Sorry for the rant guys.
Quote from: crj1968 on November 18, 2015, 10:52:47 PM
Man that is cool !
(http://image.hotrod.com/f/160292288+w660+h495+q80+re0+cr1/009-1969-dodge-daytona-barn-find-rear.jpg)
[/sub PIX THAT NEEDS TO BEE OUT THERE?? DJ OUT WEST :brickwall: :RantExplode:
Well I guess the car just went over the block.
I know for a fact that the guy Charlie who pulled it out of the car port paid $115,000
It sold for $90,000.
Well there ya go.
good, serves him right
Thanks for posting the inside info Ryan. Its nice to hear the whole story. For once the long time owner of the car ended up with the $$$ Even at $90k I think that is more than enough money. Then buyers premium, transport, taxes, etc...how much will the the new owner be in it for?
Dave
Quote from: Devil on January 22, 2016, 05:10:22 PM
Well I guess the car just went over the block.
I know for a fact that the guy Charlie who pulled it out of the car port paid $115,000
It sold for $90,000.
Well there ya go.
:2thumbs:
What a joke the whole thing was. At the end of the day it is a rusty crusty Daytona project worth probably 60-70k needing well more than that in resto costs.
90k was strong money, but not surprising at auction.
Quote from: Devil on January 22, 2016, 05:10:22 PM
Well I guess the car just went over the block.
I know for a fact that the guy Charlie who pulled it out of the car port paid $115,000
It sold for $90,000.
Well there ya go.
Karma, baby! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Quote from: Davtona on December 08, 2015, 10:15:31 PM
Quote from: Ghoste on December 08, 2015, 08:59:18 AM
I've quite had my fill of "barn" finds, the term has become as appealing to me as frame off restorations of unibody cars or survivors with rusted 1/4's and repainted fenders.
I've always wanted a Daytona huh. Ya right you will never own one as obviously money is more important. Just another flipper. This was a cool story at first with potential that went downhill fast today for me anyway. I agree the barn find thing is definitely worn out although this appeared closer to a real one than most. Most times they are about some I want to be famous guy that stumbles across something the owner and the relatively local crowd knows exactly what it is. But the whole rest of the world does not know about it so he feels it is his duty to blab about it to the entire world. Too bad this did not go to someone who genuinely wanted a wing car. Now it is probably out of the range of the average person. Be curious what it does sell for. Wrong guy / right place I guess you could say. :down:
Agreed. :brickwall:
Quote from: odcics2 on January 22, 2016, 08:52:06 PM
Quote from: Devil on January 22, 2016, 05:10:22 PM
Well I guess the car just went over the block.
I know for a fact that the guy Charlie who pulled it out of the car port paid $115,000
It sold for $90,000.
Well there ya go.
Karma, baby! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Yea gotta love the Karma.
After all the hype, people bidding saw it as a rather ordinary Daytona needing a lot of work.
For the flipper, somehow the alcohol and show didn't do the trick.
So did the original seller get $115K? If so good for him.
The pictures and inflated legend will survive for years.
Quote from: Redbird on January 22, 2016, 09:55:02 PM
After all the hype, people bidding saw it as a rather ordinary Daytona needing a lot of work.
For the flipper, somehow the alcohol and show didn't do the trick.
So did the original seller get $115K? If so good for him.
The pictures and inflated legend will survive for years.
Sometimes it's not about the money made or lost for some folks, but the pedestal ride of attention/fame/notoriety that became of it, I've know guys that will dump up to $300K into a vehicle worth no more than $60K just to have the bragging rights of a Gold OEM award plaque, then dump the car after the fame was achieved with no regard to the investment or the vehicle
I get that many folks can buy whatever they want for whatever price.
That market is fickle though.
IMHO the 600 mile blue car was the one to get on this particular day.
Right up there was the 17 mile car for me. Still nice today, but really nice when it had 17 miles.
I'd love to see the 1970 Vit-C auto show car as it was, sometime before it gets restored.
90k doesn't seem outrageous. Daytonas command big money and are out of reach for us blue collar folk now. 90k seems almost doable. As far as the flipper goes, he got his fame alright. He shall be known as the flipper who can't make money on a sure thing. Super famous. I am happy for the original seller who got what he wanted for his car.
I am also happy for the long time owner getting what he wanted for his Daytona!
The few people that still have long time ownership know a thing or two about these rare cars.
From what I read he didn't advertise it or put it up for sale. The buyer went to him.
I feel that the reason the entry level Daytonas bring so much value is that there are not many left.
Once they have gone through some sort of restoration that value gets added to the car.
The quality of restorations is all over the board but the prices tend to be in a smaller range!
MJ
Quote from: DAY CLONA on January 22, 2016, 10:08:56 PM
Quote from: Redbird on January 22, 2016, 09:55:02 PM
After all the hype, people bidding saw it as a rather ordinary Daytona needing a lot of work.
For the flipper, somehow the alcohol and show didn't do the trick.
So did the original seller get $115K? If so good for him.
The pictures and inflated legend will survive for years.
Sometimes it's not about the money made or lost for some folks, but the pedestal ride of attention/fame/notoriety that became of it, I've know guys that will dump up to $300K into a vehicle worth no more than $60K just to have the bragging rights of a Gold OEM award plaque, then dump the car after the fame was achieved with no regard to the investment or the vehicle
Not to many people like that, a very small handfull. LEON.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGZsLE3hP3M
when they did the pictures
the photographer's webpage mentioned in the video above....
http://www.tedisgraphic.com/1969-dodge-daytona-charger-barn-find-alabama-photos/
Car made the cover of the new issue of ACC. Great magazine too.
Here's my little story on this particular Daytona. Prior to Charlie purchasing this car, I had no idea who the guy was... really, I still don't know him, other than coming across as a fast-talking money-hungry car flipper. So, I don't recall exactly when it was, but when he purchased the car... and the news was JUST hitting Facebook for the first time... he called my boss. I've restored two Superbirds and a Charger 500 for him (along with a few other cars) and he has casually been looking for a Daytona to purchase. I'm sure he has told this to a number of people and apparently word got to Charlie.
The way I remember it, it was on a Wednesday and Doug (my boss) and I were discussing a few things about the 1957 Corvette that I am currently restoring and his phone rang... as it commonly does. He took the call and walked off. After I got back from lunch he came back to my work area and told me that some guy named Charlie, down around Mobile, AL, called him and found an "all original" 1969 Daytona that had been sitting up for a long time, still had it's original paint, and only had 20k-something miles on it. He said it was complete. And of course, it was for sale. He asked Doug if he had seen pictures of it or heard the story on the car yet... and Doug hadn't (he doesn't do Facebook, forums, etc.). He was almost bragging about the story... and was saying "Oh, I'm surprised you haven't heard about it yet". Like I said, the news JUST hit Facebook (I think it was on the day before). This was on Wednesday and he just took procession of the car on the previous Saturday. So Doug is telling me about this newfound car and at the time, I hadn't seen pictures yet... just going off the description that was relayed to me. In my head, I had a mental picture somewhat of a time capsule 20k mile red Daytona that would have been a little rough around the edges, but still very cool and well worth preserving it as it sat. With the price that he was asking, that's what I had in mind. Charlie told him that he really didn't want to sell the car... because he always dreamed of having a Daytona... so he bought this one when he got the chance. BUT... He's also been trying to buy a real tri-power '67 Corvette, that he knew about, for years and wouldn't you know... it came up for sale right after he purchased the Daytona. So he was going to "regretfully part with the Daytona" so that he can get the Corvette.... for a small sum of $150K.
Even though the car wasn't a 4-speed car... or a Hemi Daytona, which is what Doug would really rather have, he still considered it. I think he was more excited about it being an untouched low mile survivor car than anything. So I quickly searched for this story that is "all over the internet" (Charlie's quote) and found it. When I saw the pictures, it was a far cry from what he described. He never even mentioned the flames... and he said it was "slightly bumped" on the nose. After looking at a few pictures, he knew that he was no longer interested in the car... not at that price at least. I don't think he even called Charlie back either.
I was kind of excited about it, because it is still a cool car and a great find. Just not for that kind of money. We talked a little more about it. He asked what I thought it was actually worth. I told him that it all really depended on #'s matching drivetrain, rust issues, etc. and I said $100k on the high side. He was thinking more along the lines of $60-70k. HAHA So there you have it. I'm just glad that Charlie lost pretty big on it... and I hope that he missed out on his '67 Vette.
Justin
"CornDog"
A proper 'Charlie' as we say in England? :scratchchin:
Lose a few bucks, win a few bucks, life is a gamble.
Better to have a story to tell, than no story at ALL... :popcrn:
ITS A DAYTONA, you wants one, you pays the man, whatever he asks!!!
I bought a Daytona once. it was less than $1000...
Lot less RUST too... :slap:
Quote from: CornDogsCharger on March 10, 2016, 09:17:11 PM
The way I remember it, it was on a Wednesday and Doug (my boss) and I were discussing a few things about the 1957 Corvette that I am currently restoring and his phone rang... as it commonly does. He took the call and walked off. After I got back from lunch he came back to my work area and told me that some guy named Charlie, down around Mobile, AL, called him and found an "all original" 1969 Daytona that had been sitting up for a long time, still had it's original paint, and only had 20k-something miles on it. He said it was complete. And of course, it was for sale. He asked Doug if he had seen pictures of it or heard the story on the car yet... and Doug hadn't (he doesn't do Facebook, forums, etc.). He was almost bragging about the story... and was saying "Oh, I'm surprised you haven't heard about it yet". Like I said, the news JUST hit Facebook (I think it was on the day before). This was on Wednesday and he just took procession of the car on the previous Saturday. So Doug is telling me about this newfound car and at the time, I hadn't seen pictures yet... just going off the description that was relayed to me. In my head, I had a mental picture somewhat of a time capsule 20k mile red Daytona that would have been a little rough around the edges, but still very cool and well worth preserving it as it sat. With the price that he was asking, that's what I had in mind. Charlie told him that he really didn't want to sell the car... because he always dreamed of having a Daytona... so he bought this one when he got the chance. BUT... He's also been trying to buy a real tri-power '67 Corvette, that he knew about, for years and wouldn't you know... it came up for sale right after he purchased the Daytona. So he was going to "regretfully part with the Daytona" so that he can get the Corvette.... for a small sum of $150K.
Even though the car wasn't a 4-speed car... or a Hemi Daytona, which is what Doug would really rather have, he still considered it. I think he was more excited about it being an untouched low mile survivor car than anything. So I quickly searched for this story that is "all over the internet" (Charlie's quote) and found it. When I saw the pictures, it was a far cry from what he described. He never even mentioned the flames... and he said it was "slightly bumped" on the nose. After looking at a few pictures, he knew that he was no longer interested in the car... not at that price at least. I don't think he even called Charlie back either.
Justin
"CornDog"
Very similar to the story Tim Wellborn told. Charlie had shopped the car to him in similar fashion. At first, Tim was interested in the car just as it was. But when Charlie told him about all the internet exposure, Tim told him straight out that he wasn't a buyer. It could have been a big positive for his museum had THEY been able to reveal the car and generate the publicity. Once the cat was out of the bag on the internet, there was no reason to pay the money being asked. Tim told him, "Sorry, Charlie".