Hey guys -
Once again I have another Daytona question - can anyone provide me with some pics of the hood pins on a Daytona both with the hood closed and opened. I need to see where under hood they mount as well as the actual holes through the hood.
As always thank you - Mike
A '70 Daytona from http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,24781.msg270959.html#msg270959
thanks Geno for posting the pictures in that thread before the link was disabled.
(http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=24781.0;id=37147;image)
This might be of interest to you also Mike.. http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,18911.0.html
Here is everything you ever wanted to know about Daytona hoods.. with out any hood pin pictures though :brickwall: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,8213.0.html
Mike, the hood pin location is pretty much the same as any '70 Charger - it goes right through the center of the hole that is present on the underneath side of every '70 Charger hood.
There is an engineering graphic I got from Vance Cummins a while back which shows the mounting location, but I do not have the time to find, scan & post it at the moment. Maybe this afternoon when the phone stops ringing here at work... :brickwall: However, that drawing does not correctly show the hood pin bezel mounting configuration, which should be a "+" for most every Daytona rather than a square pattern (there are probably exceptions, but the vast majority had a "+" arrangement).
More later...
This is great... thanks so much.
I'll try and post some progress pics soon - probably within' a week or so.
:cheers:
In lieu of finding that blasted drawing (which I specifically remember showed a locating template that we don't have access to anyway), here are a few pictures:
Geno - THESE ARE PERFECT!!
thanks so much for taking the time to dig these up for me.
Have a great New Year man - Mike
Here's a couple of pics I snapped at Monster Mopar Weekend a year or two ago...Hope these help...
Hey guy's , I was always curious if the cables ever get in the Jamb area when closing hood ?? I know this is hard to believe , but I'm not an Idiot , but always thought there has to be that one time !!!
This was in mopar muscle? or mopar action? one of them anyway.
Using the pics already posted are the best way to go.
Had these from my old daytona part number #3549611 for the daytona and superbird parts book description lock package.With similar instructions shown above
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/Annie75414/NOSHoodPins.jpg)
:popcrn:
Quote from: daytonalo on December 28, 2007, 06:54:45 PM
Hey guy's , I was always curious if the cables ever get in the Jamb area when closing hood ?? I know this is hard to believe , but I'm not an Idiot , but always thought there has to be that one time !!!
If there is a place for either the pins or lanyards to get stuck, you will find them there. that 'one time' theory happens a lot more frequently.
For instance: headlights up, start car, turn headlights on, grab pins from headlight bucket.
Quote from: NYCMille on December 28, 2007, 06:13:34 PM
Geno - THESE ARE PERFECT!!
thanks so much for taking the time to dig these up for me.
Have a great New Year man - Mike
No problem, Mike - Happy New Year to you as well! :cheers:
Just to be clear, the lanyard is normally attached the way it shows in Chris/DaytonaRTSE's pictures - where the pin goes from front to back. For whatever reason, Jim's (3--Daytona) F5 survivor Daytona has the pin rotated 90 degrees so that it goes from side to side as you can see in the first picture I posted. Normally, they're just like the pictures Chris took at MMW. No big deal really, just put 'em on however you'd like - there's an exception for every rule it seems.
Also, Brian/UFO posted the exact engineering graphic I was going to search for. Thanks! It's a little hard to read from that scan, but they used a locating template to mark and drill the holes for the hood pin bezels. It's doubtful that anyone has an original template, so the diagram is not nearly as useful to us now since it gives no locating dimensions.
I've seen Daytona owners using longer lanyards and attaching the end to the radiator yoke. At least that way, the hood pins don't flop around when the hood gets raised. Hadn't thought about the pins getting caught up in the headlight buckets though like Pettybird mentioned... Sounds like the voice of experience there! :'(
great pics . saved them all . Rene
Reference picture on pin and location
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/Annie75414/Hoodpinlocation.jpg)
Are you wanting a larger version of the graphic posted?
Quote from: NYCMille on December 28, 2007, 05:13:50 PM
This is great... thanks so much.
I'll try and post some progress pics soon - probably within' a week or so.
:cheers:
I'm anxious to see it, but obviously it will be with some mixed emotion.
BTW, still no takers on the 383, and the transmission still sits waiting for a crate. S'pose I ought to work on that. ::)
I just took a whole bunch of pics of my friends 40K orig mile unrestored daytona. The bezels are off so you can see the size of the hole. I hope these help some of you. If you need any other pics for reference. Let me know, Jeremy
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h4/Jeremymacdonald/100_2968.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h4/Jeremymacdonald/100_2967.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h4/Jeremymacdonald/100_2965.jpg)
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more
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h4/Jeremymacdonald/100_2958.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h4/Jeremymacdonald/100_2954.jpg)
Note how the screws were in no particular pattern
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h4/Jeremymacdonald/100_2955.jpg)
The hole is a 1" hole
Hood latch.
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h4/Jeremymacdonald/100_2966.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h4/Jeremymacdonald/100_2960.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h4/Jeremymacdonald/100_2959.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h4/Jeremymacdonald/100_2963.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h4/Jeremymacdonald/100_2962.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h4/Jeremymacdonald/100_2964.jpg)
It took a few seconds to find the hood safety latch because I could not find the leaver. Once I found it. There was no handle. I looked to see were it had broke off and it does not appear to be broke. Like I said. This is a 40 k car that has never been restored. It has had one poor repaint but is a very nice orig car. So I hope these pics are accurate and will be of help to everyone,
Jeremy
That's correct..there is no handle on the latches....
Mike I'm just north of Tappan zee if you ever need to look at a car for reference
John
That engine compartment looks familiar to me. 'Does that car have a white tail stripe that the letters appear to be too high up on the body? Where the word "Daytona" is a little above the body line?
yes, Also a white int. 440 console 4spd dana car. He had it at mopars at the strip a few years ago. Is that were you saw it?
thanks Jeremy , i put all those pis in my file . Rene
Quote from: johntpr on December 29, 2007, 06:28:08 PM
That's correct..there is no handle on the latches....
:iagree:
The Daytona safety latch was a re-used part taken from the '69 Charger hoods that were removed at Creative. They simply took the retaining clip off of the pull rod and removed/discarded the pull rod. The '70 Charger's safety latch lever/handle actually hits on a Daytona's latch tray, which is probably why Creative didn't use that style.
A little sidetrack here...
One of the interesting things I see in the pictures of the hood latch is overspray on the latch itself. Most other original cars I've seen had latches with no overspray, and Chris Sauer's car had no overspray AND mis-matched bolts (an F6 Green bolt on an R4 car). If Jeremy's friend's hood was never repainted/repaired/touched-up by Creative Industries, the selling dealer or the owner, then that's a significant point. I'd be interested to know if there is paint underneath that latch. If there isn't any paint, then it means Creative was not consistent with their assembly procedures - at least with that car. That wouldn't come as much of a surprise, would it?
The hood pin bezel holes on the driver's side were really off-kilter, weren't they? :o
Also, it looked like the Daytona-only hole behind the battery is there... :scope:
Lots of good reference pictures there, Jeremy - thanks for posting them!
I don't remember seeing it at the Mopars at the Strip, but that might have been the show. I don't recall what show it was, but I know i shot some photo's of it, and it looked familiar. Then again I think you have posted a few photo's of the car in other threads, and I questioned whether or not it was the same car I had heard of being for sale about 4-5 years ago.
He bought the car in 03 or 04. The car was never advertised, We found it threw word of mouth. I was told there was a Blue with white int and stripe daytona sitting in this area in Idaho. So i told my friend about it and we went looking. We found the suposed place and walked up to the quanset hut door and looked threw the window. I could see the wing sticking up in the back of the shop. But it was not blue. It was red. We tracked down the owner and he agreed to let us look at it. My friend asked if he wanted to sell and he said the amount that would buy it and they agreed on it. But the car was not advertised since the early 90'sish. Then it was in KY I think.
Vegas show,,,Same car right?
Thats the car. That was about 2 or 3 months after we got it. Galen looked at it and said that he was impressed with how complete it is. It still has its factory locking gas cap and a rubber shield underneath that he said usually got taken off when the oil got changed and never put back on.
Jeremy
Here is the gas cap, (http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h4/Jeremymacdonald/100_2971.jpg)