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Title: NASCAR HEMI on racing junk
Post by: tan top on May 31, 2018, 03:01:02 AM
https://www.racingjunk.com/Big-block-complete/183043138/NASCAR-1970-426-HEMI-SUPERBIRD-DAYTONA-BATH-TUB.html?page=2&categoryId=5702&offset=18&from=category

the intake looks a bit high , would that bath  tub lid fit under a race Daytona / superbird  hood ?:scratchchin:  i'm no expert , I await to be corrected  :scratchchin: :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: NASCAR HEMI on racing junk
Post by: warmpancakes on May 31, 2018, 01:43:41 PM
something seems off, why would the waterpump/front cover be on with out the front horseshoe?
Title: Re: NASCAR HEMI on racing junk
Post by: Aero426 on May 31, 2018, 03:42:04 PM
Quote from: warmpancakes on May 31, 2018, 01:43:41 PM
something seems off, why would the waterpump/front cover be on with out the front horseshoe?

The same reason someone has painted HEMI on the valve covers.     Looks like it has been assembled for display.    Maybe it is complete.  Maybe it's not.    No details on the block stamping. 

Many questions left unanswered in a listing with one photo and few details.  
Title: Re: NASCAR HEMI on racing junk
Post by: 70Sbird on May 31, 2018, 03:54:46 PM
looks like it's missing a couple of plug wires too from the dangling distributor cap.......I'm out
:popcrn:
Title: Re: NASCAR HEMI on racing junk
Post by: RallyeMike on May 31, 2018, 09:01:59 PM
I'm no expert, but I see a normal oil pump bolted on it  :shruggy:
Title: Re: NASCAR HEMI on racing junk
Post by: ACUDANUT on June 01, 2018, 01:44:11 PM
Chain drive, dry oil pump. Nope. 3 barrel carb Nope.
50K..Hell no.
Title: Re: NASCAR HEMI on racing junk
Post by: A383Wing on June 01, 2018, 02:14:38 PM
Quote from: RallyeMike on May 31, 2018, 09:01:59 PM
I'm no expert, but I see a normal oil pump bolted on it  :shruggy:

Looks more like a hi-volume pump with a bent oil filter attached
Title: Re: NASCAR HEMI on racing junk
Post by: odcics2 on June 02, 2018, 07:00:32 AM
Quote from: tan top on May 31, 2018, 03:01:02 AM
https://www.racingjunk.com/Big-block-complete/183043138/NASCAR-1970-426-HEMI-SUPERBIRD-DAYTONA-BATH-TUB.html?page=2&categoryId=5702&offset=18&from=category

the intake looks a bit high , would that bath  tub lid fit under a race Daytona / superbird  hood ?:scratchchin:  i'm no expert , I await to be corrected  :scratchchin: :cheers: :cheers:

Here's what the intake fits-

:cheers:
Title: Re: NASCAR HEMI on racing junk
Post by: odcics2 on June 04, 2018, 07:25:29 PM
Now on ebay - https://www.ebay.com/itm/NASCAR-426-HEMI-ENGINE-RACE-MOTOR-VERY-RARE-BATHTUB-RAT-ROASTER-70-1970-PLYMOUTH/253669589982?hash=item3b0fe2c3de:g:w8UAAOSw1xVbFbtf

Claims:  Owens maybe built it and it's making 800 HP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!   

Hey - remember a few years ago when I posted an actual Cotton Owens 426 hemi dyno sheet before restrictor plates?     It made 575 HP.   
Title: Re: NASCAR HEMI on racing junk
Post by: hemi71x on June 04, 2018, 10:18:07 PM
Quote from: odcics2 on June 02, 2018, 07:00:32 AM
Quote from: tan top on May 31, 2018, 03:01:02 AM
https://www.racingjunk.com/Big-block-complete/183043138/NASCAR-1970-426-HEMI-SUPERBIRD-DAYTONA-BATH-TUB.html?page=2&categoryId=5702&offset=18&from=category

the intake looks a bit high , would that bath  tub lid fit under a race Daytona / superbird  hood ?:scratchchin:  i'm no expert , I await to be corrected  :scratchchin: :cheers: :cheers:

Here's what the intake fits-

:cheers:

That thick "Bathtub" intake manifold lid was known as the "Richard Petty top" in the NASCAR world.
At one time, i had one of them in my collection, for decades, before i sold it off.
Title: Re: NASCAR HEMI on racing junk
Post by: tan top on June 05, 2018, 03:04:57 AM
Quote from: odcics2 on June 04, 2018, 07:25:29 PM
Now on ebay - https://www.ebay.com/itm/NASCAR-426-HEMI-ENGINE-RACE-MOTOR-VERY-RARE-BATHTUB-RAT-ROASTER-70-1970-PLYMOUTH/253669589982?hash=item3b0fe2c3de:g:w8UAAOSw1xVbFbtf

Claims:  Owens maybe built it and it's making 800 HP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!   

Hey - remember a few years ago when I posted an actual Cotton Owens 426 hemi dyno sheet before restrictor plates?     It made 575 HP.   

:cheers: :2thumbs:
Title: Re: NASCAR HEMI on racing junk
Post by: tan top on June 05, 2018, 03:07:10 AM
 :popcrn:
Title: Re: NASCAR HEMI on racing junk
Post by: odcics2 on June 05, 2018, 06:16:25 AM
Quote from: hemi71x on June 04, 2018, 10:18:07 PM
Quote from: odcics2 on June 02, 2018, 07:00:32 AM
Quote from: tan top on May 31, 2018, 03:01:02 AM
https://www.racingjunk.com/Big-block-complete/183043138/NASCAR-1970-426-HEMI-SUPERBIRD-DAYTONA-BATH-TUB.html?page=2&categoryId=5702&offset=18&from=category

the intake looks a bit high , would that bath  tub lid fit under a race Daytona / superbird  hood ?:scratchchin:  i'm no expert , I await to be corrected  :scratchchin: :cheers: :cheers:

Here's what the intake fits-

:cheers:

That thick "Bathtub" intake manifold lid was known as the "Richard Petty top" in the NASCAR world.
At one time, i had one of them in my collection, for decades, before i sold it off.

Yup, and I bought it!  Very trick piece.   Made to get better flow with a restrictor plate.  Used on Petty's car in the Daytona 500 win, 1974, last year he used the 426.

I have a few aluminum spacers, used to get the lid that height.     Could be Chrysler Engineering pieces.
Title: Re: NASCAR HEMI on racing junk
Post by: Aero426 on June 05, 2018, 09:05:38 AM
Quote from: odcics2 on June 05, 2018, 06:16:25 AM
Quote from: hemi71x on June 04, 2018, 10:18:07 PM
Quote from: odcics2 on June 02, 2018, 07:00:32 AM
Quote from: tan top on May 31, 2018, 03:01:02 AM
https://www.racingjunk.com/Big-block-complete/183043138/NASCAR-1970-426-HEMI-SUPERBIRD-DAYTONA-BATH-TUB.html?page=2&categoryId=5702&offset=18&from=category

the intake looks a bit high , would that bath  tub lid fit under a race Daytona / superbird  hood ?:scratchchin:  i'm no expert , I await to be corrected  :scratchchin: :cheers: :cheers:

Here's what the intake fits-

:cheers:

That thick "Bathtub" intake manifold lid was known as the "Richard Petty top" in the NASCAR world.
At one time, i had one of them in my collection, for decades, before i sold it off.

Yup, and I bought it!  Very trick piece.   Made to get better flow with a restrictor plate.  Used on Petty's car in the Daytona 500 win, 1974, last year he used the 426.

I have a few aluminum spacers, used to get the lid that height.     Could be Chrysler Engineering pieces.

Is the base manifold the same as the ones on the earlier cars?   
Title: Re: NASCAR HEMI on racing junk
Post by: timmycharger on June 05, 2018, 10:47:32 AM
The Seller is out of Northbridge, MA, google his name "GozzyMopar" and you will see some negative hits about Hemi engines he sells on Ebay.  I personally dealt with this seller years ago on restoration pieces and he was a very good guy. I cannot speak about his engines though.  :Twocents:
Title: Re: NASCAR HEMI on racing junk
Post by: Mytur Binsdirti on June 05, 2018, 10:54:59 AM
Quote from: timmycharger on June 05, 2018, 10:47:32 AM
The Seller is out of Northbridge, MA, google his name "GozzyMopar" and you will see some negative hits about Hemi engines he sells on Ebay.  I personally dealt with this seller years ago on restoration pieces and he was a very good guy. I cannot speak about his engines though.  :Twocents:

How 'bout that, only a half hour from me.
Title: Re: NASCAR HEMI on racing junk
Post by: timmycharger on June 05, 2018, 11:26:28 AM
And about an hr or so South of me.  I remembered now that I had him build me a couple of rear ends which were quiet and never gave me any troubles. 

He used to race up at New England Dragway as well, running a pink 68 Cuda with the name "Aftershock" I believe.  :Twocents:
Title: Re: NASCAR HEMI on racing junk
Post by: RallyeMike on June 05, 2018, 02:05:02 PM
Reasonable starting bid and fresh coat of paint to boot  :cheers:
Title: Re: NASCAR HEMI on racing junk
Post by: odcics2 on June 05, 2018, 02:17:52 PM
Quote from: Aero426 on June 05, 2018, 09:05:38 AM
Quote from: odcics2 on June 05, 2018, 06:16:25 AM
Quote from: hemi71x on June 04, 2018, 10:18:07 PM
Quote from: odcics2 on June 02, 2018, 07:00:32 AM
Quote from: tan top on May 31, 2018, 03:01:02 AM
https://www.racingjunk.com/Big-block-complete/183043138/NASCAR-1970-426-HEMI-SUPERBIRD-DAYTONA-BATH-TUB.html?page=2&categoryId=5702&offset=18&from=category

the intake looks a bit high , would that bath  tub lid fit under a race Daytona / superbird  hood ?:scratchchin:  i'm no expert , I await to be corrected  :scratchchin: :cheers: :cheers:

Here's what the intake fits-

:cheers:

That thick "Bathtub" intake manifold lid was known as the "Richard Petty top" in the NASCAR world.
At one time, i had one of them in my collection, for decades, before i sold it off.

Yup, and I bought it!  Very trick piece.   Made to get better flow with a restrictor plate.  Used on Petty's car in the Daytona 500 win, 1974, last year he used the 426.

I have a few aluminum spacers, used to get the lid that height.     Could be Chrysler Engineering pieces.

Is the base manifold the same as the ones on the earlier cars?   

:shruggy:
Title: Re: NASCAR HEMI on racing junk
Post by: hemi71x on June 05, 2018, 11:38:46 PM
Quote from: Aero426 on June 05, 2018, 09:05:38 AM
Is the base manifold the same as the ones on the earlier cars?  

I once owned 3 NASCAR Bathtub intake manifolds for the 426 Hemi engines, and all the bottom, bases are physically all the same.
The internal plenum might be slightly modified to direct the fuel-air mixture to a particular cylinder, but that's about it.
Title: Re: NASCAR HEMI on racing junk
Post by: odcics2 on June 07, 2018, 08:10:48 PM
I'll flip my lid over and see if the divider comes all the way down to hit the bottom divider.
Full report on findings tomorrow...
Title: Re: NASCAR HEMI on racing junk
Post by: ACUDANUT on June 08, 2018, 04:02:24 PM
 It once said 6 pack carb kit. Where did that go ?
Title: Re: NASCAR HEMI on racing junk
Post by: odcics2 on June 11, 2018, 05:47:44 AM
Quote from: odcics2 on June 07, 2018, 08:10:48 PM
I'll flip my lid over and see if the divider comes all the way down to hit the bottom divider.
Full report on findings tomorrow...

Yes, it does...
Title: Re: NASCAR HEMI on racing junk
Post by: odcics2 on July 01, 2018, 04:51:51 PM

Sold for BEST OFFER, under the $31000. asking price. 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NASCAR-426-HEMI-ENGINE-RACE-MOTOR-VERY-RARE-BATHTUB-RAT-ROASTER-70-1970-PLYMOUTH/253685901109?hash=item3b10dba735:g:w8UAAOSw1xVbFbtf
Title: Re: NASCAR HEMI on racing junk
Post by: tan top on July 03, 2018, 12:24:03 AM
 :popcrn: