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Title: Diplomat 3 speed stick problem!
Post by: XXSpiralXX on July 30, 2010, 03:17:36 PM
 I recently bought an 81 Diplomat 2 door with a 3 speed stick.  I had a problem last night with it getting stuck in 2nd gear. Couldnt get it out and managed to limp it to a friends house. Now, we got it free but the shifter wont move side to side. Is it the shifter or is it the trans? It is a slant six with a centerforce clutch and a Hurst shifter. Any help would be appreciated!
Title: Re: Diplomat 3 speed stick problem!
Post by: Tilar on July 30, 2010, 03:37:55 PM
The linkages from the shifter to the tranny are probably out of adjustment.
Title: Re: Diplomat 3 speed stick problem!
Post by: XXSpiralXX on August 02, 2010, 08:54:18 AM
  Ok, so later that night we got under the car, messed with the linkage and got it free. The next day the same thing happened again though. So we messed with it some more and it got stuck in second so bad that we couldnt even get it out of gear with vicegrips and the shifter off!  Now the trans is in the back of my truck waiting to go to the tranny guy.  From what we found, the bushings on the shifter were COMPLETELY fubared and the clips were also bad. There was also one adjustment screw missing. What we determined was that the trans was never fully " in gear " when I was driving the car! The thought is, my diagnosis is that I either bent the forks OR toasted a synchro. Hopefully I didn't completely waste it as I am supposed to take it on vacay this weekend and the gf refuses to go in my work truck OR my Charger since it's still in it's multicolored paint scheme.
Title: Re: Diplomat 3 speed stick problem!
Post by: Tilar on August 02, 2010, 01:47:16 PM
I would bet that if you could get the tranny out of gear that it would be alright, then just replace the shifter or put new bushings in it.
Title: Re: Diplomat 3 speed stick problem!
Post by: XXSpiralXX on August 03, 2010, 01:46:12 AM
  That's what were working on. Didn't get a chance to open up the case today. I did go and pick up the bushings and the clips though.
Title: Re: Diplomat 3 speed stick problem!
Post by: XXSpiralXX on October 06, 2010, 06:12:14 PM
  Ok so we managed to get the trans out and open and WHOA man was there a mess inside!!! We had to replace synchros and dogs and all sorts of other good stuff. I also found out one of the forks was messed up. Now, as we were putting the trans back in we noticed the little details that for some reason I missed when I was looking over the car. The entire conversion is SNAFU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I would have to go and redo basically the entire thing! I don't even think the pedals are correct, they should be from a Volare.  I am now thinking of just dropping a 904 back into the car if I can find one that came from a 225.
Title: Re: Diplomat 3 speed stick problem!
Post by: TruckDriver on October 06, 2010, 07:58:13 PM
That's gotta be a rare car. I never heard of a stick in a Diplomat :shruggy:
Title: Re: Diplomat 3 speed stick problem!
Post by: XXSpiralXX on October 07, 2010, 05:12:54 PM
Quote from: TruckDriver on October 06, 2010, 07:58:13 PM
That's gotta be a rare car. I never heard of a stick in a Diplomat :shruggy:

  Right now it's about as rare as any non driving car. The last owner paid a shop to do the conversion and got ripped off. Instead of installing new parts that the guy paid for, they installed fragged stuff from a 73 duster instead. Nothing in the conversion was done right. I've never done a stick shift conversion, but I think I can do a better job, with my gf nagging me, and drunk, and using nothing but some twisty ties scotch tape. I will post pics when I can figure out how, and have the time to do so.
Title: Re: Diplomat 3 speed stick problem!
Post by: XXSpiralXX on October 10, 2010, 05:33:14 PM
Some pics
Title: Re: Diplomat 3 speed stick problem!
Post by: XXSpiralXX on October 10, 2010, 05:37:18 PM
  For some reason It won't allow me to post more pics, I keep getting error messages and telling me I'm double posting or that there is already an attachment with that name. When I figure it out I will post more.
Title: Re: Diplomat 3 speed stick problem!
Post by: mikepmcs on October 10, 2010, 05:46:25 PM
couple things.
first. each of your pictures have to be below 200kb and they all have to be named differently and not have the same as any other picture on this site.
name your pictures something arbitrary like              hygiwhdjufidhjfifh12345.jpg
each one has to have a different name.

secondly, if your GF will not ride with you in your work truck or your charger because she doesn't like the way they look....get rid of her.   :lol: :Twocents: :icon_smile_big: :2thumbs:
Title: Re: Diplomat 3 speed stick problem!
Post by: XXSpiralXX on October 13, 2010, 07:12:50 AM
Trying again with the pics