But it was worth it. Just need to remember where it all goes!
Another
Deep wet paint. :drool5: Me likey a lot.
What's the dog dish 2nd gen in the background?
I know this has been asked before but, body color or stripe color on the rear markers? Both my cars had been painted before but neither show any sings of black paint
:o
That looks stunning!
Thanks ghost it has been a long road and know I can final see day light. The other car is also a 500 and they are only one number apart.
One of the under carrage
Is that R4 or R6 red? I'm at a loss for words after seeing that chargers shiny body.
:2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Mark
Mark
It's R6 but in certain light it looks a R4.
r6 rocks!!!
The marker light should be stripe color. Look at my car in 1972 original paint (my dad bought it new)
I thought it was R6. That color is thrown off in photos I noticed even from my old chargers I've had that color. My next charger will be the same color. Its the factory color of mine even, vs. green like most of mine were. Mine isn't a 500 though, just a 318 car that will be cloned. Wow, I miss seeing that color up close on a body. Whoever did the work did an awesome job!
Mark
Fuchs
That"s a great picture love the wheels. But as for the strip I know the R/T"s where stripe color for shore but the 500's ??? I think maybe they where suppose to be stripe color but some times forgotten? Any one have any original paint cars?
Quote from: XXHEMI on December 10, 2006, 04:28:04 PM
Fuchs
That"s a great picture love the wheels. But as for the strip I know the R/T"s where stripe color for shore but the 500's ??? I think maybe they where suppose to be stripe color but some times forgotten? Any one have any original paint cars?
I have an RT that the side reflector housing are body color not stripe color ?? , - great looking car by the way!!!
Ed,
Another 6 months it will be all worth it..The car is awesome!!!!
WOW!, NICE
I think the jury is still out on the marker light color. I've seen "unrestored" cars both ways but overall, I tend to believe they were stripe color. No facts though, just an opinion based on what I've ususally seen.
Great looking car. Can't wait to see it all complete. :yesnod:
Wow Ed that is truly stunning.
R6 is such a great color........I almost cant wait to do mine over in the original R6 ;)
From what I have read & seen, most of the 500's never had the marker housing painted stripe color....
PS---I dont believe I have this one in the registry yet :scratchchin: :wave:
Thats looks real nice Ed
Ed, looks like the car turned out great.
Ghoste by the way the dog dished car in the background I'm guessing to be a HEMI 500.
As far as the marker light bezels go, well I'm going to say that they should be body color on that car. So far in my detection work on this, its about 75% to 25%. With 75% of cars having had body colored bezels, where as 25% had stripe color bezels on the 500's.
Talked to 3 origional owners, all 3 had cars with body color bezels on them when new. The press release car clearly has body color bezels in all the photo's, and of course its still a survivor and still wears those body color bezels today.
I was thinking about that press release car and was going to mention it but then I remembered that Hot Rod had an incident with it when it was brand new and had to do some repairs. At first I thought that it was possible they were forced to reapir as far back as the stripe and so painted the bezel and did the other side to match. A closer examination of my photos though, shows the "incident" to be localized to the drivers rear wheelwell.
the way i look at the stripe vs side marker housings issue is if they were done both ways why not make it look whichever way looks better to you ..... i prefer the s/m housings stripe color
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e67/75414/1969_500_HEMI_ORANGE_02.jpg)
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if you dont mind what kinda work did the body need before ?
:o that looks stunning and its not even completed yet :drool5: :drool5: , going to be an awesome looking C500 :thumbs:
Ed, your car looks awesome! It'll be a masterpiece when it's completed, for sure. Can't wait to see it, and I'm sure you're getting anxious to get it finished.
Looks like we know what you'll be doing this winter... ;D
:o 2 years!! yikes.. looks very nice. Is the body painted where the rotisserie is bolted up or do you need to touch that spot up later?
Now, get that A pillar trim bolted on :icon_smile_wink:
Paul
in St. Paul
Thanks for all the kind words guys. It did take a long time but I do think it was worth it. The body was pretty good to start with very little metal work besides for changing the drivers side quarter with an NOS piece (was hit at one time and had some real poor work done to it). I hope to have it ready to bring to Carlisle but still in search of some small parts. I do think I will leave the side marker body color because I think that is the way it was. How about head light can in the engine compartment, where they left in or did they remove them?
Thanks Ed
Quote from: nascarxx29 on December 10, 2006, 09:59:00 PM
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The Vins on the r6 is 406 The white red int. is 407 and the T5 is 408 three in a row?? I guess I need the white one
oh it's ok i guess,..
too bad the paint isin't as nice as when it left the factory.. :icon_smile_wink:
I'm not positive on this, but I'd be willing to wager some money that the 407 White with red interior car isn't going to be for sale anytime soon. If I'm not mistaken the current owner intends on keeping all of his cars forever doesn't he?
I'll get back to you on the question of the canister being left in or taken out for the headlights. I've checked my car out, but I haven't had it forever. So I'll make a call to an origional owner for you, and let you know how it was on his car. OH by the way, on his car the bezels were body color. However on another origional owners car they were body color. I personally think the majority of 500's had them body color due to laziness at Creative Industries. Which was somewhat confirmed to me 2 years ago in a conversation with a "quality control" person from Creative Industries from 1969. I laughed at him and told him he didn't do a very good job of inspection, he just laughed back.
Ask Al, he's the original owner of his B5 440 C500......
Man, that R6 of your XXHEMI is stunning !!!!!! Man, talk about inspiration !!!!
Troy
That looks absolutely fantastic! Keep us updated on the progress. :icon_smile_cool:
69 500
Thanks for the info I need all the help I can get. My other car does not have the canister either but it was painted at one point they may have removed it then. I think the white car is owned buy Mr Fox?
Thanks Ed
Quote from: XXHEMI on December 11, 2006, 07:23:00 PM
69 500
Thanks for the info I need all the help I can get. My other car does not have the canister either but it was painted at one point they may have removed it then. I think the white car is owned buy Mr Fox?
Thanks Ed
Ah Hell,,, it's you Ed !!!!! I didn't realize you were XXHEMI :blush2:
Al is one of the ones I mentioned as having said that his car had the bezels painted body color.
Another gentleman in Ohio also colaborated the same with his HEMI 500 which he bought new. Another gentleman in Missouri who bought his 500 with 900 miles on it in 1970, said the same for his HEMI 500.
However another origional owner said his was with stripe color.
I'm going to ask the two with the HEMI 500's if their cars still had the canister. I don't recall seeing any 500's with the canister still in them, but then again its not something I typically looked for.
I do believe that your correct in who has the 500. Then again he has been known to buy and sell a few cars over the years. Althought quite a few seem to always remain.
My front bezels are body color (Y3), my rear bezels are stripe color. (black) and mine was original paint till 3 months ago.
That's breath taking. :blush2: Very NICE.
What wheels are you putting on, steelies?
Quote from: 472 R/T SE on December 11, 2006, 11:51:32 PM
That's breath taking. :blush2: Very NICE.
What wheels are you putting on, steelies?
Kelsey Hayes?
Lord Warlock is your car a R/T or a 500? Just curious?
I'm guessing R/T as I recall your screen name from another thread.
No Kelsey's on this one but I do have a 69 R/T Cornonet that came with em. Another resto project that should be done next month. (Never again) As much as I love these cars the resto stuff is a little to much for me. At least here in New York, Its cheeper to see my doctor then have a car done. :icon_smile_blackeye:
Well doctors visits are only once in a while, where as a restoration is an every day thing isn't it?
Car looks great by the way.
Just curious Ed, but if you do take it to a show this coming year you wouldn't mind if I pop a few photo's of the fender tag do you? I never got all the tag information off of the last owner. Only that it was a R6 car, and a few of the options. I guessed on what the tag would read, but would rather write down the correct info for the car.
Still no answer on the vacuum canister. I'll try the two friends again tonight.
69
Not at all hope to have it at Carlisle and the Nats. If i can get a photo of the tag this week I will post it
Ed
Thanks Ed.
It is 1 of only 2 R6 HEMI 500's I know of. Actually its the only one I've ever seen in person, but I have a build sheet to another HEMI 500 that is R6. Haven't ever seen the car though, but do have the broadcast sheet.
Nice job!!! Looks sweet!! ;)
Any updated pics?
Looks awesome , I hope and pray for you , let me explain . I did all my panel replacement and body work on rotisserie and I fit the doors , a buddy of mine advised me to get the car back on the ground with susp in place , thank god I did because door gaps were way off . Again I aligned doors on rotisserie then I placed car on ground with susp , and gaps were way off , just my 2 cents , good luck .Larry O
What shop did you have the work done at?
Quote from: 69_500 on December 12, 2006, 07:42:26 PM
Lord Warlock is your car a R/T or a 500? Just curious?
I'm guessing R/T as I recall your screen name from another thread.
Mine is a 69 R/T Special Edition. I've read that the 70 had body colored bezels but mine has always had a black r/t stripe on the back and the bezel is covered in the same material, in fact when i was grinding off the stripe, the bezel appeared to have stripe vinyl over the top of the factory paint. I'll have to dig around to find the pics of the car before i stripped the paint off, but i know i took pics to ensure I'd have something to use when i put a new stripe in place.
Quote from: daytonalo on January 12, 2007, 06:30:22 PM
Looks awesome , I hope and pray for you , let me explain . I did all my panel replacement and body work on rotisserie and I fit the doors , a buddy of mine advised me to get the car back on the ground with susp in place , thank god I did because door gaps were way off . Again I aligned doors on rotisserie then I placed car on ground with susp , and gaps were way off , just my 2 cents , good luck .Larry O
Larry a very good point! I started to line everything up when it was on the rotisserie and I was having a very hard time. At the point something clicked and we put the car on jack stands at the suspension points and things went much better. The doors should line up when that time comes????? I hope. And the name of the shop was County Autobody in NY. Unfortunately he's a Chevy guy. All Vetts first Mopar
Another
another
last one for know
:scope: awesome :drool5: :bow: , thanks for posting the pictures , keep them coming :popcrn:
Love it! :popcrn:
looking very very nice ...gonna be a great car :icon_smile_cool:
Man does that look sweet!!!! :yesnod:
Is there a certain spot where the overspray stops on the underside of the car? Or does it vary from day to day? Were these cars sprayed by hand? they must have been, there wasnt robot arms spraying cars that long ago.
Quote from: PocketThunder on January 19, 2007, 11:02:39 AM
Is there a certain spot where the overspray stops on the underside of the car? Or does it vary from day to day? Were these cars sprayed by hand? they must have been, there wasnt robot arms spraying cars that long ago.
POCKET
They where done by hand and Iam sure they where all diffrent. I tried to match my other car as close as possible. It was repainted once in the 80's but I don't think the guy who painted it ever bent over. It was mostly original paint down there. From the sides it is all painted and what ever made it underneath I guess was it.
Gotcha :yesnod:
Hey, your marker light bezel is body color and not stripe color? :shruggy: :stirthepot:
How did that a-pillar trim fit that you got from me?
Looks like the car is coming along great Ed.
I've asked several people about the canister question, still don't have a definate answer to give back to you. When and if I find anything definate I'll let you know.
Words alone could not ever describe how fantastic that car looks. I would truly consider selling everything I had to have a car like that. The color is awesome, I could only imagine what it looks like in real time. Keep the pictures coming.
Gary
I assume that Creative Industries did the FULL XX conversion INCLUDING the 500 stripes. Makes sense to me that they were un-aware of what Ma' MoPar's protocol was on the rear bezels. One would assume.
I bet the factory had BINS of marker bezels in Black white and red etc. (Stripe colors)...
Quote from: Charger Aficionado on January 20, 2007, 02:10:50 PM
I assume that Creative Industries did the FULL XX conversion INCLUDING the 500 stripes. Makes sense to me that they were un-aware of what Ma' MoPar's protocol was on the rear bezels. One would assume.
I bet the factory had BINS of marker bezels in Black white and red etc. (Stripe colors)...
They had a checklist which they may or may not have followed. The marker bezels were painted with the car I thought? Creative removed them to put the stripe on and sometimes got them mixed up during re-installation. The stripe had to be put on near the end though because they had to repaint the back half of the car after adding the plug and trunk modifications.
Troy
Your correct in that Creative did have a check off sheet. However after talking to a few people who worked there at that time, those check off sheets are like check off sheets at 99% of jobs. Just a pile of trash paper. They did the job, and got the cars out of the door. That is all that mattered to them.
The bezels are supposed to be stripe color according to the paperwork. I'm averaging about 65-70% of cars that I've run accross that have the bezels painted body color instead of stripe color. Seems they got a few correct but a heck of a lot of them wrong.
Both my 500's have black stripes and niether one shows any signs of the bezels ever being black. But I have owned an original paint 440 car with a white stripe and the bezels where painted white.
When I talked to several people who worked at creative in 69 they all told me the same thing. they were supposed to paint them to match the stripe, but all of them said that if at the end of the day, the cars needing bezels put back in them after installing the stripe, and the bezels laying around matched the body colors of the cars, they put them back on. Instead of taking them to the paint booth and painting each bezel to match the stripe on the cars.
I wonder why the change in emphasis for the Daytonas? So far, all of the original Daytonas I've seen have had the bezels painted stripe color - including my own car.
Did someone at Chrysler get onto Creative for not following that step with the C500's like they wanted?
Sorry for the thread hijack Ed, the car is looking fantastic!
I'm not sure, but I can tell you this, it would be a whole lot more noticeable with a bezel painted body color on a daytona with that wide stripe.
Quote from: hemigeno on January 20, 2007, 08:12:50 PM
I wonder why the change in emphasis for the Daytonas? So far, all of the original Daytonas I've seen have had the bezels painted stripe color - including my own car.
Did someone at Chrysler get onto Creative for not following that step with the C500's like they wanted?
Sorry for the thread hijack Ed, the car is looking fantastic!
DEFINETLY my thoughts exactly. Someone griped, and probably with knowing how WIDE the stripe was on Daytona they made SURE to pass the word down.
Quote from: hemigeno on January 20, 2007, 08:12:50 PM
I wonder why the change in emphasis for the Daytonas? So far, all of the original Daytonas I've seen have had the bezels painted stripe color - including my own car.
Did someone at Chrysler get onto Creative for not following that step with the C500's like they wanted?
Sorry for the thread hijack Ed, the car is looking fantastic!
Thanks Geno
Hows the Daytona coming along?
Quote from: XXHEMI on January 20, 2007, 09:15:43 PM
Quote from: hemigeno on January 20, 2007, 08:12:50 PM
I wonder why the change in emphasis for the Daytonas? So far, all of the original Daytonas I've seen have had the bezels painted stripe color - including my own car.
Did someone at Chrysler get onto Creative for not following that step with the C500's like they wanted?
Sorry for the thread hijack Ed, the car is looking fantastic!
Thanks Geno
Hows the Daytona coming along?
I spoke with Vance last Tuesday. The car is still not back from the media blaster, who was supposed to have it done before Christmas. That's what I get for mentioning to him that I didn't have a drop-dead completion date deadline...
Hope to go see the car on Monday the 29th, and I'll have some updated pictures for sure.
On a Monday? What are you crazy? Why not a Saturday or a sunday :)
Hey, if you decide to go up there on a weekend, say a Saturday in February let me know. I am about 90% sure I'm busy Feb 2-4th but free the other weekends that month.
Where's the motor and trans?? :-*
Quote from: hpmike on January 24, 2007, 10:05:43 PM
Where's the motor and trans?? :-*
You know Mike I keep asking myself the same question. How long can it take to build a motor! Is it done yet??
I'm guessing it takes as long as 2 years. :)
Here is a useful tip...
Make sure that the engine is completed right before it is to be put in the car. I have seen too many fresh motors have problems from sitting around, while the car is process of restoration. Stuck valves, valve spring issues, dust/sand getting into motor, rings sticking,etc.
Don't worry Ed,,, we are right on schedule.. Would have been easier if I wasn't doing all these darn A12 6 pack motors :icon_smile_dead:
right on schedule? How long was the schedule? Just kidding.
Quote from: hpmike on January 25, 2007, 08:30:53 PM
Here is a useful tip...
Make sure that the engine is completed right before it is to be put in the car. I have seen too many fresh motors have problems from sitting around, while the car is process of restoration. Stuck valves, valve spring issues, dust/sand getting into motor, rings sticking,etc.
Don't worry Ed,,, we are right on schedule.. Would have been easier if I wasn't doing all these darn A12 6 pack motors :icon_smile_dead:
Mike I am sorry for all the pressure! But I going to act like one of my customers! I want what I want and I want it know! Only kidding you are doing a great job! Anyone in the Northeast that needs HP work done Mike is the man to see. I know its not a Charger but he has put my A12 Roadrunner where no man has gone before with a wedge motor and redline tires 11.38@123MPH He's amazing ! Anyone out there thats tired of the same old car show stuff needs to look into F.A.S.T Racing lots of fun!!!!!!!!!!!! There is no Chargers out there yet?? Sorry for changing the subject.
Quote from: XXHEMI on January 27, 2007, 08:55:52 PM
Mike I am sorry for all the pressure! But I going to act like one of my customers! I want what I want and I want it know! Only kidding you are doing a great job! Anyone in the Northeast that needs HP work done Mike is the man to see. I know its not a Charger but he has put my A12 Roadrunner where no man has gone before with a wedge motor and redline tires 11.38@123MPH He's amazing ! Anyone out there thats tired of the same old car show stuff needs to look into F.A.S.T Racing lots of fun!!!!!!!!!!!! There is no Chargers out there yet?? Sorry for changing the subject.
Nice A-12, beautiful and FAST.......no pun intended ;)
Didn't Dwayne massage the heads and spec out the custom roller ?
Ron
Ps. Nice job on the 500 :2thumbs:
So Ed, why don't you run one of your 500's in FAST now that you have 2 again?
Quote from: XXHEMI on January 27, 2007, 08:55:52 PM
There is no Chargers out there yet?? Sorry for changing the subject.
Woah there Ed! Well OK technically no Chargers in the F.A.S.T. class but last November I was in the Factory Stock class @ E-Town remember? I came in 12th outh of 25 or so cars in the class :cheers:
It is truely amazing what can be done to these cars to run on skinny bias ply tires. Mike definately has the touch when it comes to pumping up these cars to do it at the track. I'm sure the motor for the 500 will be killer as well.....gonna run that car in the class as well?
I had a blast at that race. Sadly I didnt get to see much of the F.A.S.T. class run because we were always in the staging lanes behind you. They definately need to have a day by itself...waaaaayy too many Corvettes & Mustangs running as well.
I did run the T5 charger at one of the local FAST races. But that was a one time deal. .Numbers matching motor 4spd ? I need to keep those cars in one piece. It ran a 14.22 @101 MPH ?? needs some tuning! Chris sorry I forgot about you racing your Charger it does look like it belongs on the track though! And Ron yes Dwanye did his magic on the heads. I think he picked us up 50hp. Hope to get a mopar closer to the front of the pack this year. :yesnod:
Hoping to see a Mopar up at the front of the field this year in FAST.
And hoping to get a glance of the R6 500 once you get it all completed.
Quote from: XXHEMI on January 28, 2007, 02:10:10 PM
And Ron yes Dwanye did his magic on the heads. I think he picked us up 50hp. Hope to get a mopar closer to the front of the pack this year. :yesnod:
Thanks for the confirmation Ed.....i remember reading something to that effect in a thread on Moparts. :yesnod:
Good luck this year.....hope you crack the 10.9x barrier with the A-12. :icon_smile_cool: That would be amazing given the intake & exhaust manifold limitations, not to mention the skinny bias plies. Talk about mission impossible ! That car is just so cool ! :devil:
Ron
Does anyone have an NOS or close to NOS passanger side headlight bezel. I have two extra drivers sides if anyone needs
Thanks Ed
Which part of the bezel are you talking about Ed? Just curious? I have some spare parts for a 500 grille in my garage.
Quote from: 69_500 on January 29, 2007, 06:55:21 PM
Which part of the bezel are you talking about Ed? Just curious? I have some spare parts for a 500 grille in my garage.
I need the head light suround
I'll look tomorrow in my garage. I think I have an entire grille assembly in the garage. You don't need the extension piece that goes from the bezel to the fender do you? I know I don't have one of those. And I know that I don't have the rubber piece that goes over that extension. If I'm not mistaken I thought that Charger Aficianado had an entire extra grille for a 500 as well.
A little progress. Hemi's in!
Another
Last one
What brand engine paint did you use ? Did you use clear on it or not ?
I used the Early Hemi PPG stuff that Badalson sells. But I did use a hardener (he does not recomend) which does make it glossy. But much easier to keep clean. After start up it will tone down (I hope).
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
:bow: wow .......... looking real nice.... awesome job :2thumbs:
Looking good Ed.
What are your intentions with this 500? Are you going to run it in FAST? Or show it? Or just have it to enjoy and drive? You have too many choices considering you already have another very nice 500 as well.
No FAST intended for this one. I will bring to all the big shows though.
Real quality work, beautiful car. I noticed that your 500 has 2 battery cooling holes. Is this common for 500's? Most daytonas (but not all) that I have seen, seem to have only one. I had inquired about this on the "my smart old man thread".
Quote from: XXHEMI on March 11, 2007, 07:21:10 PM
No FAST intended for this one. I will bring to all the big shows though.
I guess those 7500RPM valvesprings are a waste then, huih ??? Only kidding, looks great, and runs awesome,too ;)
Mike
And here I was hoping to finally get some video of a Charger 500 blasting down the track in FAST racing. I guess I'll have to hold out for someone else to do that huh?
That's looking really sweet, glossy engine paint & all. :thumbs:
Quote from: 69_500 on January 20, 2007, 06:17:53 PM
Your correct in that Creative did have a check off sheet. However after talking to a few people who worked there at that time, those check off sheets are like check off sheets at 99% of jobs. Just a pile of trash paper. They did the job, and got the cars out of the door. That is all that mattered to them.
The bezels are supposed to be stripe color according to the paperwork. I'm averaging about 65-70% of cars that I've run accross that have the bezels painted body color instead of stripe color. Seems they got a few correct but a heck of a lot of them wrong.
My guess is that Creative was paid a flat price to convert each RT to a 500 and the less you did and could get by at the shop with the more money you could make, its a flat rate fact like it or not so the earlier cars PROBABLY DIDN'T get the bezels painted. mine were body color.After somebody got their ass chewed, later cars probably DID get painted besels. You guys with the numbers might be able to tell if that is true. When I took the seats out of my car there was broken glass everywhere and there was broken glass stuck to the byutal tape which held the rear glass in, so the window was broken out and NOT removed. For what ever reason my car didn't have a deck lid stripe on it when I got it. I wish I had a picture of it without the stripe but I don't. Mine also didn't have a jack use/storage sticker as some of the glue had been painted over. When my car goes back stock I probably won't put the stripe and sticker back on it. ::) Al
I imagine Chrysler was after them to do it quickly too so they in turn could get NASCAR off their backs and establish the cars legitimacy.
Ed.. Man !!!! She's looking great !!!!!! Talk about inspiration....... :2thumbs:
Did ya drop the body over the motor and k-member?
Troy
I've been trying to figure out the whole painted bezel thing for a few years now. I haven't figured out any rhyme or reason to it yet. I know that some are and some aren't. I say that both ways are correct. Just depends on how your car was. Might have depended on what time of the day/week your car was leaving Creative, I don't know. I've seen one car, that had the bezels painted body color, and the next car down the line VIN sequentially, had them painted stripe color. so who knows.
There is only one car in between my two and its besels are body color also. I know that this white car has been restored but? If they where red then you would think that they would have redid them in red? but who really knows.
Either one of my cars bezels had black paint on them. So there's three in a row of body color! Guess they where sleeping that day.
Quote from: XXHEMI on March 13, 2007, 07:34:58 PM
There is only one car in between my two and its besels are body color also. I know that this white car has been restored but? If they where red then you would think that they would have redid them in red? but who really knows.
Either one of my cars bezels had black paint on them. So there's three in a row of body color! Guess they where sleeping that day.
Ed, here's a picture of Dana I got from the third owner when it was still in Cheyenne...... It appears the bezel is painted stripe color.... The owner said the car was still in it's original paint. This picture was taken in the mid-70's.......
Troy
I don't think the photo posted, but I think you posted it in another thread once before. My car has the bezels painted body color, and I have old photo's showing it with it that way in the early 70's.
My dad's old HEMI 500 had the bezels painted stripe color, and it is 3 digits after my 500 that I have now. So who knows, I guess it as random as they come.
I suppose there's still no way to know what order the cars came out of Creative Industries, is there? The Daytonas don't have an exact order, but the assumption is that the later shipped cars were also the later converted cars - and they definitely did not follow the VIN sequences. Maybe (just maybe) some tendencies could be noted for them, but there are no absolutes. Also... just because some cars have sequential VINs doesn't mean that the cars went down the line at Hamtramck in order, which further compounds the confusion.
From what I've been told, the shop at Creative was more like individual bays all lined up in a row, not an assembly-line type as at Hamtramck. That might have played a role too. Could have been that the guy who worked on bays 6-10 painted all his cars' bezels, but the guy working bays 1-5 didn't paint any of 'em. (Hypothetical example, BTW).
Ed, your car is looking fantastic, and I can't wait to see it in person at some of the shows this year. :2thumbs:
Which could explain some things as well, as to why caras got the wrong rear seats in them and such. I mean if they are in batches, say, and 3 out of the 5 in that batch have black interior, they just pick a seat and reinstall it.
Probably the same for the bezels. If you put the stripe on, and there is 3 sets of R4 red bezels, but those three cars need black or white bezels to match the stripe, you just put the R4 red one's back in to save time.
We need to run an ad in the Detroit Free Press looking for anyone who worked for Creative at that time so we can quiz them. Greg Kwiatkowski's a Motown boy, he must have looked some of those guys up by now?
a 69 charger 500 :drool5: :drool5: : :boogie:
The Creative shop was (and still is) pretty much a big open building. There really were no work stalls defined by walls as such.
When we had the Aero Car meet in Detroit in 2001, we took a bus down there and made an impromptu visit. The business that is there now prints up the Cruisin News paper for the Detroit classic car crowd. They had no idea what to make of a bus of spectators, cameras in hand pulling up to their building unannounced. But they were very gracious and let us snoop around and take photos. It was very clear that the back lot behind the building was where the cars were all queued up in various states of completion. The photos were shot off the roof. Likewise, on the front side of the building, there are landmarks across the street that remain from the photos of the completed cars on the haulaway trailers. Easy to identify where the photos were taken.
That's interesting as I was going to suggest an ad in Cruisin' News in addition to the paper.
Quote from: 69_500 on December 11, 2006, 07:42:24 PM
Al is one of the ones I mentioned as having said that his car had the bezels painted body color.
Another gentleman in Ohio also colaborated the same with his HEMI 500 which he bought new. Another gentleman in Missouri who bought his 500 with 900 miles on it in 1970, said the same for his HEMI 500.
However another origional owner said his was with stripe color.
I'm going to ask the two with the HEMI 500's if their cars still had the canister. I don't recall seeing any 500's with the canister still in them, but then again its not something I typically looked for.
The yellow one near me I'm about 99% sure the canister is still in it, and it only has something like 12K miles
Is it a Yellow HEMI 500?
I don't know if I know of that one, or not. I have a photo of a Y2 HEMI 500 from that area that was taken in the early 80's could be the same car.
HEY....What gives???You can't end this like that.More pics...it's been like five months since the last post.How is that sweet lookin ride doing now?
P.S. It does look excellent !!
Poppa
Sorry for sleeping on the job! Took some time off but should be back on it shortly. I will update you very soon.
Thanks Ed
man that car looks great keep it going.... :drool5:
yeah please post some photo's of the finished project. Would love to see it.
Got a chance to look Ed's car over at Carlisle as well. VERY NICE CAR. Did a very nice job on the restoration Ed.
Was hoping to get to talk to you a little bit more in person though, but I realize at a show like that everyone is busy just trying to talk to their buddies who they don't see that often, let alone answering the hundreds of questions I would have asked you about the car. Great looking ride though.
Quote from: PocketThunder on March 11, 2007, 03:36:52 PM
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
:iagree: :drool5: :drool5: :drool5:maybe one day :yesnod:
Congrats to Ed C. (XXHemi), whose R6 C500 was voted first place in the '69 Charger Stock class at Carlisle this past weekend, and was a celebrity pick as well!
That car was well-deserving.
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:2thumbs:
Thanks Geno
I had to get my son to work Sunday so we pulled out early I had no Idea. Sorry I did not get to talk to anyone ended up racing with the F.A.S.T guys Friday night and running around looking for parts for my Coronet restoration just not enough time.
Ed
Congrats on the first place there Ed.
Seems Gene beat me to looking everything up today.
I think I made 3 trips down the row to look at your car on Saturday Ed. Very nice car.