DodgeCharger.com Forum

Discussion Boards => Charger Discussion => Topic started by: tan top on January 06, 2018, 11:15:41 AM

Title: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: tan top on January 06, 2018, 11:15:41 AM
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/cto/d/1970-dodge-charger-t/6448144668.html

  :scratchchin:   
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: Kern Dog on January 06, 2018, 09:42:30 PM
Delusional jerkoff. My 70 500 was in better shape and running when I paid $1700 in March 2000. Even adjusting for "Charger fever", the car is still listed for about double a reasonable price.
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: alfaitalia on January 07, 2018, 04:03:54 AM
Yep....but I bet he gets the asking price though.
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: fc7_plumcrazy on January 07, 2018, 06:49:20 AM
not cheap but I like original paint

Carsten
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: cbrestorations on January 07, 2018, 09:06:43 AM
The car is in LA he will get 35k
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: DAY CLONA on January 07, 2018, 02:07:11 PM
Quote from: cbrestorations on January 07, 2018, 09:06:43 AM
The car is in LA he will get 35k




My thoughts exactly, besides it's a 70, you have to pay more for the better 2nd gen  :nana:
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: 70B5Cuda on January 07, 2018, 06:16:02 PM
If it was a running/driving 68/69 in the same condition it might bring 35K, but that '70 will sell for $25-27K
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: tan top on January 31, 2018, 05:41:22 PM
now on ebay  :yesnod:  looks a good project :yesnod: :coolgleamA:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Dodge-Charger-R-T/273049198066?hash=item3f93001df2:g:xPAAAOSwSKtacf3V&vxp=mtr

Theres more pictures in the ebay advet , but cant resize at minute for some reason , will post rest asap  


Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: tan top on January 31, 2018, 05:42:38 PM
 :popcrn:
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: 70B5Cuda on January 31, 2018, 06:08:49 PM
The car looks good in the eBay auction until you get to the last picture (#24) ans you see that the roof skin is destroyed!! It has dozens and dozens of perforations. And that's why it won't bring anywhere near $35k....I will actually revise my previous estimate down from $25-27 down to about $22k
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: Sixt8Chrgr on February 01, 2018, 07:51:03 AM
Some European will buy it and another one lost, but I agree way over priced. I paid much less than that for 69 RT in much better shape.
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: alfaitalia on February 01, 2018, 10:04:44 AM
LOL......they are not "lost" over here...we know exactly where they are!!.....but no, I would not be paying that for it either! TBH the vast majority of ones we import are 68 and 69 models. I've never seen a 70 in the metal in the UK.
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: timmycharger on February 01, 2018, 01:45:13 PM
Who knows what these cars will get now a days and what folks are willing to pay.


Is this a crack? Seems like an odd place if so  :shruggy:

Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: 69RTSE on February 01, 2018, 04:05:15 PM
Seems like a nice honest car to me.  Its got all the necessary paperwork and some great options and a good starting point for a restoration.  The price may be slightly on the higher side, but it will sell for what its worth.  The price is not that outrageous and not that far off.
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: socalcharger on February 01, 2018, 05:13:32 PM
Quote from: Sixt8Chrgr on February 01, 2018, 07:51:03 AM
Some European will buy it and another one lost, but I agree way over priced. I paid much less than that for 69 RT in much better shape.

The chain of sales seems will eventually land every charger sooner or later overseas unfortunately.  :brickwall:
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: A12 Superbee on February 01, 2018, 07:42:11 PM
Overseas is the safest place for them! How many Chargers get killed every  :popcrn: time you damn fools make a DOH or F&F movie?

You're like a petulant little child complaining that we took your toys away from you, well you'll get them back when you learn to take care of them better! :popcrn:
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: BLK 68 R/T on February 01, 2018, 11:59:25 PM
Quote from: timmycharger on February 01, 2018, 01:45:13 PM
Who knows what these cars will get now a days and what folks are willing to pay.


Is this a crack? Seems like an odd place if so  :shruggy:



Sure looks like one to me, good eye.
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: birdsandbees on February 02, 2018, 12:22:11 AM
My 'Bird has one almost identical in it, I suspect from someone slamming doors instead of fixing the latch.
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: 70Y3RT on February 05, 2018, 01:44:51 PM
Quote from: Kern Dog on January 06, 2018, 09:42:30 PM
Delusional jerkoff. My 70 500 was in better shape and running when I paid $1700 in March 2000. Even adjusting for "Charger fever", the car is still listed for about double a reasonable price.
Wow... that's not very nice... So your comparing your 500 (which probably has a 318 in it) to my R/T? And your comparing what you paid for it 18 years ago? And I'm the "delusional jerkoff"
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: tan top on February 05, 2018, 05:52:03 PM
 

Quote from: 70Y3RT on February 05, 2018, 01:44:51 PM
Quote from: Kern Dog on January 06, 2018, 09:42:30 PM
Delusional jerkoff. My 70 500 was in better shape and running when I paid $1700 in March 2000. Even adjusting for "Charger fever", the car is still listed for about double a reasonable price.
Wow... that's not very nice... So your comparing your 500 (which probably has a 318 in it) to my R/T? And your comparing what you paid for it 18 years ago? And I'm the "delusional jerkoff"


hello & welcome  , good luck with the sale





Quote from: tan top on January 31, 2018, 05:41:22 PM
now on ebay  :yesnod:  looks a good project :yesnod: :coolgleamA:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Dodge-Charger-R-T/273049198066?hash=item3f93001df2:g:xPAAAOSwSKtacf3V&vxp=mtr

Theres more pictures in the ebay advet , but cant resize at minute for some reason , will post rest asap 




rest of pictures  :popcrn: :2thumbs:
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: tan top on February 05, 2018, 05:52:18 PM
 :popcrn:
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: JB400 on February 05, 2018, 06:06:58 PM
Quote from: 70Y3RT on February 05, 2018, 01:44:51 PM
Quote from: Kern Dog on January 06, 2018, 09:42:30 PM
Delusional jerkoff. My 70 500 was in better shape and running when I paid $1700 in March 2000. Even adjusting for "Charger fever", the car is still listed for about double a reasonable price.
Wow... that's not very nice... So your comparing your 500 (which probably has a 318 in it) to my R/T? And your comparing what you paid for it 18 years ago? And I'm the "delusional jerkoff"
There's a few of them like that on here.  Don't take it personal and just say hello.

By the way, welcome, and good luck with the sale.
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: Mytur Binsdirti on February 06, 2018, 07:28:53 AM
Trunk lid is bent pretty good too.

(http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=131176.0;attach=281428;image)


No offense to the seller, but unfortunately, it needs too much work to want to be driven as is & a full restoration is necessary which will set you back 40-50 grand, at least. Today, top dollar for this car fully restored is 65 grand, however, that might be tough to get due to the bland color. So, the logical thing to do is to do the math to come up with a true price.
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: 70Y3RT on February 06, 2018, 02:23:25 PM
Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on February 06, 2018, 07:28:53 AM
No offense to the seller, but unfortunately, it needs too much work to want to be driven as is & a full restoration is necessary which will set you back 40-50 grand, at least. Today, top dollar for this car fully restored is 65 grand, however, that might be tough to get due to the bland color. So, the logical thing to do is to do the math to come up with a true price.


None taken, I know that my price is on the high side to most, but with that said, I don't care if it sells or not. I just figured Id put it out there, If it doesn't sell, it will be shot for an upcoming show on Discovery, and my plans are to get it running as is, put some wheels/tires on it, fix the roof, and put a new vinyl top on it... They're only original once, and I like the patina!  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: 70Y3RT on February 06, 2018, 02:25:04 PM
Quote from: JB400 on February 05, 2018, 06:06:58 PM
By the way, welcome, and good luck with the sale.

Thanks! :cheers:
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: 70Y3RT on February 06, 2018, 02:26:41 PM
Quote from: tan top on February 05, 2018, 05:52:03 PM
hello & welcome  , good luck with the sale

Hello, And thanks for sharing!  :icon_smile_big:
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: 6pkrtse on February 06, 2018, 03:10:46 PM
I like it personally. Odd color & all. Just out of my budget & I don't need another one right now anyway. Welcome to the site & good luck with the sale.

They are still out there thought for the others that can't find one reasonably priced. You just have to be patient until the right one come along. I found my complete 70' 500 S.E. that came with a 440 for less than most are selling the front bumper assemble for these days.
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: 70Y3RT on February 27, 2018, 03:53:40 PM
Little update on the car, Just did a shoot with the car for a upcoming Discovery series where they go over the car and give their opinion as well as an appraisal... Should air late summer/early fall...

Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: orange383 on March 01, 2018, 08:12:28 AM
Hopefully we'll get to see that in the uk.
Personally I like the colour and patina of your car and if it was mine I'd just fix any rust issues and use it. Not every car has to be fully restored.

I had a '68 once that I barely used as I didn't want it to get damaged.
The one I have now is really rough and will pretty much stay rough so when it's finally roadworthy I'll use it more without the worry of it picking up a scratch or a dent.
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: Bad B-rad on March 01, 2018, 08:42:11 AM
It looks like a nice car, priced very high, but who knows?

Can or WILL you say what the discovery show appraised it at?
Anyway you slice it it looks like a nice, cool Charger.
Good luck.
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: JR on March 01, 2018, 02:07:54 PM
I like your 70 a lot. I would fix the structural/floor/trunk pan rust, do a mechanical restoration, and drive it as is. The patina and color are awesome!

However, I am extremely skeptical that somehow Discovery or Velocity Channel will make a car show worth watching. They are 0 for 300 at the moment. :icon_smile_big:
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: Kern Dog on March 01, 2018, 05:20:43 PM
Quote from: 70Y3RT on February 05, 2018, 01:44:51 PM
Quote from: Kern Dog on January 06, 2018, 09:42:30 PM
Delusional jerkoff. My 70 500 was in better shape and running when I paid $1700 in March 2000. Even adjusting for "Charger fever", the car is still listed for about double a reasonable price.
Wow... that's not very nice... So your comparing your 500 (which probably has a 318 in it) to my R/T? And your comparing what you paid for it 18 years ago? And I'm the "delusional jerkoff"

Come on, man...Look at the thread title. The prices these cars are listed for are not mentioned in this thread if they are reasonable. It is the delusional people that get mentioned here. YOU are one of them. The car is not driveable in its current condition. It is NOT a desireable color. It is a 440 automatic, converted to a 4 speed R/T which is a great car but yours needs everything. A running driver with decent paint can be bought for the money you are asking. I am not the only one that feels this way. Reread the responses. Here is one:

"No offense to the seller, but unfortunately, it needs too much work to want to be driven as is & a full restoration is necessary which will set you back 40-50 grand, at least. Today, top dollar for this car fully restored is 65 grand, however, that might be tough to get due to the bland color. So, the logical thing to do is to do the math to come up with a true price."

I was obnoxious, sure but was I wrong? If you are asking too much for something, aren't you jerking people around?   
Welcome to the forum, maybe your thinking will change. Sometimes people are in their own bubble and do not know how the rest of the world works. I don't know all the answers and I never will. I do know that while I did get lucky in 2000 to get my car at a great price. It was a 318 car but even then, the "Charger Fever" I mentioned had not yet hit. The Fast and Furious movies have people thinking that these cars are worth crazy money. In your defense, many people share your opinion...otherwise there would not be a thread here on this very topic. Seriously though... these cars in the condition of yours do not usually sell at your price. Maybe some movie studio stunt crew will, maybe an oil rich Arab might, it may happen.
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: Challenger340 on March 02, 2018, 10:16:08 AM
Looks to be a fairly complete and original example, and IMO, potentially a very good starting point for someone so inclined.

As far as pricing ? IMO, the "test" would be if the Buy It Now was reduced to say $25K ?
Wherein I believe, the Car would be quickly snapped up by someone, and indicative to the Seller that money may have been left on the table.

As is said, opinions are like **sholes in that everyone has one(including me).
And myself included within that gene pool, I don't think there is one of us here that if it was our Car ? We wouldn't be doing exactly the same thing trying to maximize returns.
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: Mytur Binsdirti on March 02, 2018, 10:26:42 AM
Quote from: Kern Dog on March 01, 2018, 05:20:43 PM
Quote from: 70Y3RT on February 05, 2018, 01:44:51 PM
Quote from: Kern Dog on January 06, 2018, 09:42:30 PM
Delusional jerkoff. My 70 500 was in better shape and running when I paid $1700 in March 2000. Even adjusting for "Charger fever", the car is still listed for about double a reasonable price.
Wow... that's not very nice... So your comparing your 500 (which probably has a 318 in it) to my R/T? And your comparing what you paid for it 18 years ago? And I'm the "delusional jerkoff"

Come on, man...Look at the thread title. The prices these cars are listed for are not mentioned in this thread if they are reasonable. It is the delusional people that get mentioned here. YOU are one of them. The car is not driveable in its current condition. It is NOT a desireable color. It is a 440 automatic, converted to a 4 speed R/T which is a great car but yours needs everything. A running driver with decent paint can be bought for the money you are asking. I am not the only one that feels this way. Reread the responses. Here is one:

"No offense to the seller, but unfortunately, it needs too much work to want to be driven as is & a full restoration is necessary which will set you back 40-50 grand, at least. Today, top dollar for this car fully restored is 65 grand, however, that might be tough to get due to the bland color. So, the logical thing to do is to do the math to come up with a true price."

I was obnoxious, sure but was I wrong? If you are asking too much for something, aren't you jerking people around?   
Welcome to the forum, maybe your thinking will change. Sometimes people are in their own bubble and do not know how the rest of the world works. I don't know all the answers and I never will. I do know that while I did get lucky in 2000 to get my car at a great price. It was a 318 car but even then, the "Charger Fever" I mentioned had not yet hit. The Fast and Furious movies have people thinking that these cars are worth crazy money. In your defense, many people share your opinion...otherwise there would not be a thread here on this very topic. Seriously though... these cars in the condition of yours do not usually sell at your price. Maybe some movie studio stunt crew will, maybe an oil rich Arab might, it may happen.


Of course Kern Dog is 100% correct, not only for his own thoughts, but he quoted me and I am also 100% correct. Together, that makes us to be 200% correct.
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: INTMD8 on March 02, 2018, 03:21:20 PM
Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on March 02, 2018, 10:26:42 AM
Of course Kern Dog is 100% correct, not only for his own thoughts, but he quoted me and I am also 100% correct. Together, that makes us to be 200% correct.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

(https://imageshack.com/a/img924/846/38Rsny.jpg)
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: sdweatherman on March 02, 2018, 04:51:58 PM
This car was for sale out of Texas on eBay in March of 2011. If anyone wants a pdf copy of the eBay auction with the description and many many pictures, just send me a PM and I can email it to you.
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: Kern Dog on March 02, 2018, 09:57:00 PM
Thank you, turban dude.  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: 70Y3RT on March 05, 2018, 03:35:29 PM
Quote from: sdweatherman on March 02, 2018, 04:51:58 PM
This car was for sale out of Texas on eBay in March of 2011. If anyone wants a pdf copy of the eBay auction with the description and many many pictures, just send me a PM and I can email it to you.
I would love to have a copy of it... PM sent
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: 70Y3RT on March 05, 2018, 03:37:43 PM
To everyone else, I really don't care if it sells or not, its just another bank account for me... If it sells, I plan to buy a 68 which is what I really want. and with that said, I'm sure Ill end up paying the same or more for a car in similar condition to mine...
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: Derwud on March 06, 2018, 08:59:41 AM
As the owner of a needs everything 70 Charger R/T, I would be happy with the 10-15K range for my car as it sits.. But since I am still alive, the car isn't for sale.. Now my Daughter might want a million for it when I pass, but you can deal with that..
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: VegasCharger on March 06, 2018, 09:38:18 AM
Quote from: 70Y3RT on March 05, 2018, 03:37:43 PM
.....I plan to buy a 68 which is what I really want. and with that said, I'm sure Ill end up paying the same or more for a car in similar condition to mine...

Selling your 70 to get a 68 sounds like a good ideal to me. :2thumbs:
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: 70Y3RT on March 13, 2018, 05:43:09 PM
SOLD  :nana:
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: 70B5Cuda on March 13, 2018, 05:45:10 PM
Quote from: 70Y3RT on March 13, 2018, 05:43:09 PM
SOLD 

But for how much? We all thought it would sell at a certain price point....
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: 70Y3RT on March 14, 2018, 08:15:44 AM
Quote from: 70B5Cuda on March 13, 2018, 05:45:10 PM
Quote from: 70Y3RT on March 13, 2018, 05:43:09 PM
SOLD 

But for how much? We all thought it would sell at a certain price point....

My price was firm
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: Mytur Binsdirti on March 14, 2018, 09:42:05 AM
Wow, that now make's mine worth about 90 large!   :2thumbs:




(https://media1.tenor.com/images/ca38b8f7e096956f258d406a7820c7ba/tenor.gif?itemid=5362137)
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: moparstuart on March 14, 2018, 10:05:38 AM
must be the guy from Australia who started a thread 
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: Bad B-rad on March 14, 2018, 10:09:12 AM
I still want to know what did the discovery show say it was worth?
Please don't make us wait till it airs, LOL!!!!!!
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: 70Y3RT on March 14, 2018, 04:43:28 PM
Quote from: Bad B-rad on March 14, 2018, 10:09:12 AM
I still want to know what did the discovery show say it was worth?
Please don't make us wait till it airs, LOL!!!!!!

they said 25-30K
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: A12 Superbee on March 14, 2018, 04:50:45 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on March 14, 2018, 10:05:38 AM
must be the guy from Australia who started a thread 


Awesome! Another one saved!

;)
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: Bad B-rad on March 14, 2018, 05:19:01 PM
Quote from: 70Y3RT on March 14, 2018, 04:43:28 PM
Quote from: Bad B-rad on March 14, 2018, 10:09:12 AM
I still want to know what did the discovery show say it was worth?
Please don't make us wait till it airs, LOL!!!!!!

they said 25-30K



WOW,!!!!
How do you think they valued it?
High, low, or right on the money?
Are the 2nd gen Chargers really THAT HOT????
It makes me think about selling mine!!!!LOL, but then I could never, ever afford one again!!!!!

I would have thought it would be a $20,000. car
But I am not an auto appraiser.
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: JR on March 14, 2018, 05:42:07 PM
This board has a problem I encountered plenty of times back when I sold cars.

If you're selling a car, then all types will come out of the woodwork to nitpick your car, tell you you're way overpriced, and that they wouldnt give scrap price for your worthless junk. They're valuing your car like it's 1982, and old Chargers are worthless.

Now, if they're selling a car, it's usually listed for well above market value because "you'll never find another like it", and it just needs "a little" work to be perfect. They're valuing their car like it's 2005, the great recession hasn't happened, and Barrett Jackson fever is in full swing.

Every. Freaking. Time.
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: jefferson on March 15, 2018, 04:33:33 AM
Quote from: moparstuart on March 14, 2018, 10:05:38 AM
must be the guy from Australia who started a thread 


lol nope not me mate. if that was over here for 11k id buy it in a heartbeat. Something like that would go closer to 50k aussie lol.
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: 70Y3RT on March 15, 2018, 08:49:17 AM
Car sold to a US buyer
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: 70Y3RT on March 15, 2018, 08:49:40 AM
Quote from: JR on March 14, 2018, 05:42:07 PM
This board has a problem I encountered plenty of times back when I sold cars.

If you're selling a car, then all types will come out of the woodwork to nitpick your car, tell you you're way overpriced, and that they wouldnt give scrap price for your worthless junk. They're valuing your car like it's 1982, and old Chargers are worthless.

Now, if they're selling a car, it's usually listed for well above market value because "you'll never find another like it", and it just needs "a little" work to be perfect. They're valuing their car like it's 2005, the great recession hasn't happened, and Barrett Jackson fever is in full swing.

Every. Freaking. Time.
Exactly!
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: 70Y3RT on March 15, 2018, 08:52:28 AM
Quote from: Bad B-rad on March 14, 2018, 05:19:01 PM
Quote from: 70Y3RT on March 14, 2018, 04:43:28 PM
Quote from: Bad B-rad on March 14, 2018, 10:09:12 AM
I still want to know what did the discovery show say it was worth?
Please don't make us wait till it airs, LOL!!!!!!

they said 25-30K



WOW,!!!!
How do you think they valued it?
High, low, or right on the money?
Are the 2nd gen Chargers really THAT HOT????
It makes me think about selling mine!!!!LOL, but then I could never, ever afford one again!!!!!

I would have thought it would be a $20,000. car
But I am not an auto appraiser.
yes, the market is really that hot, economy is good, and they aren't making them anymore... lol
I knew the car was worth $30k, and worst case that's what it was worth to me, which is why I was firm on my price.
Now on to shopping/hunting for a 68!
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: Bad B-rad on March 15, 2018, 10:37:58 AM
Maybe it's just I don't WANT to believe they are worth that much, because then I will NEVER afford an R/T again!!!
I only got my second 1969 in 12/16 and paid $15,000.On ebay, I bid $16,000 and thought the car would go for $20 easy.(69,#'s 383 auto, solid CA car)
SO A) I got lucky
B) I don't know a thing about the value,LOL!!!

Good luck with your 68 search!
any 68, or a 1968 R/T?
You looking for a project or finished car?



Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: Derwud on March 15, 2018, 02:58:33 PM
Well it makes my $700 dollar even better....
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: Mytur Binsdirti on March 15, 2018, 04:17:19 PM
Quote from: 70Y3RT on March 15, 2018, 08:52:28 AM


Now on to shopping/hunting for a 68!


85 grand and it's all yours.....



(http://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparforum/attachments/img_20170618_191031608-jpg.437124/)




(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/GraveCornyGermanshepherd-size_restricted.gif)
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: moparstuart on March 15, 2018, 04:19:10 PM
Ill take 45k for mine 
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: Kern Dog on March 15, 2018, 05:27:55 PM
The word "WORTH" is bullshit in respect to a cars value. An impulsive idiot pays a stupid price and now the car is deemed to be "WORTH" that price?
Wrong.
The car may have been worth it to one buyer but certainly not worth it to most people.
Financially, that car is not worth the sale price since the cost of a restoration would put its final value far below the money spent to build it.
It sold. Good for you.
Carry on, folks...
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: Fitz73Chrgr on March 16, 2018, 01:10:16 AM
Quote from: Kern Dog on March 15, 2018, 05:27:55 PM
The word "WORTH" is bullshit in respect to a cars value. An impulsive idiot pays a stupid price and now the car is deemed to be "WORTH" that price?
Wrong.
The car may have been worth it to one buyer but certainly not worth it to most people.
Financially, that car is not worth the sale price since the cost of a restoration would put its final value far below the money spent to build it.
It sold. Good for you.
Carry on, folks...

A car's value IS what it is worth.  And they are worth whatever the masses will pay.  At 75k for a restored R/T, maybe a project is worth 30k.
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: roger440 on March 23, 2018, 04:36:30 PM
Quote from: Kern Dog on March 15, 2018, 05:27:55 PM

The car may have been worth it to one buyer but certainly not worth it to most people.


You only sell your car to one person. So its worth what it sold for - because it sold.
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: Kern Dog on March 23, 2018, 07:51:47 PM
I still disagree. I have bought cars and later felt the car was not worth what I paid. I'll admit it. I am not the only one.
In the car sales business, the ACV was known as the "Actual Cash Value" of a used car. This was sometimes lower than numbers listed in the "Kelly Blue Book". The ACV was a guideline as to what amount of money a certain car could be bought for any day of the week. Sure, some days with lazy buyers, the car could sell for more but the point of the ACV was to establish a reliable gauge of value.
Just because ONE buyer steps up and overpays for a car does not mean that the car is worth that amount to the average buyer. It may be worth it to that one person if they have some emotional attachment, are desperate, in a hurry or suddenly flush with cash from a dead relative, insurance settlement or home REfinance.
If a seller posts up a car for an inflated price and is willing to sit on it waiting for some deep  pocket guy with an impulse control problem, that is his decision.
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: Alaskan_TA on March 23, 2018, 08:33:44 PM
That must be why whenever I am the highest bidder on Ebay that they average my bid with the lowest bid so I only have to pay the 'average' price?   :shruggy:
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: ws23rt on March 23, 2018, 09:06:52 PM
Quote from: Kern Dog on March 23, 2018, 07:51:47 PM
I still disagree. I have bought cars and later felt the car was not worth what I paid. I'll admit it. I am not the only one.
In the car sales business, the ACV was known as the "Actual Cash Value" of a used car. This was sometimes lower than numbers listed in the "Kelly Blue Book". The ACV was a guideline as to what amount of money a certain car could be bought for any day of the week. Sure, some days with lazy buyers, the car could sell for more but the point of the ACV was to establish a reliable gauge of value.
Just because ONE buyer steps up and overpays for a car does not mean that the car is worth that amount to the average buyer. It may be worth it to that one person if they have some emotional attachment, are desperate, in a hurry or suddenly flush with cash from a dead relative, insurance settlement or home REfinance.
If a seller posts up a car for an inflated price and is willing to sit on it waiting for some deep  pocket guy with an impulse control problem, that is his decision.

Geez--what's up with the practical/logical thinking all the time?  :2thumbs:

On the topic of the value of a car--Those that research replacement insurance cost for "agreed value" will get yet another perspective on worth/value. :slap:
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: Challenger340 on March 24, 2018, 06:54:14 AM
It doesn't matter what anyone here thinks including me.

But what does matter IMO, is very simple.
The commodity was listed for a "firm" price, and it sold for that firm price within the specified sale timeframe.
Which, whether we like agree with the price paid as good value ? or not ?
this sale now completed, will indeed form part of comparison valuations across the wider market.
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: Y1CHARGER on March 24, 2018, 07:46:12 AM
What a bunch of hypocrites the complainers on here are.  The delusional car thread has more delusional members than cars.  Maybe the people this applies to should lower their Insurance "agreed values" to what they think they should pay for a car. YEAH RIGHT, hypocrites.  Anything is worth what someone is willing to pay, PERIOD.  If you don't like the price, make an offer and if not accepted then don't buy it and move on.  You guys are turning into a bunch of Grumpy Old Men that complain about everything not to mention most of you aren't even looking to buy a car anyway unless someone practically gives it to you.
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: DAY CLONA on March 24, 2018, 08:19:10 AM
Quote from: Y1CHARGER on March 24, 2018, 07:46:12 AM
What a bunch of hypocrites the complainers on here are.  The delusional car thread has more delusional members than cars.  Maybe the people this applies to should lower their Insurance "agreed values" to what they think they should pay for a car. YEAH RIGHT, hypocrites.  Anything is worth what someone is willing to pay, PERIOD.  If you don't like the price, make an offer and if not accepted then don't buy it and move on.  You guys are turning into a bunch of Grumpy Old Men that complain about everything not to mention most of you aren't even looking to buy a car anyway unless someone practically gives it to you.



Geez...you come along an inject some logic and reality into this thread, "what's a matter wit you!".... glad you sold the car and got what you wanted, and I'm sure the buyer got what they wanted, as long as both parties are content, that's all that matters, ten years from now when the prices are even higher for less of a vehicle, people will be saying what a deal  they got with prices 10 years ago... never ends
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: Derwud on March 24, 2018, 08:44:19 AM
Your car is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it on the day you HAVE to sell...
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: Challenger340 on March 24, 2018, 08:53:16 AM
Quote from: Y1CHARGER on March 24, 2018, 07:46:12 AM
What a bunch of hypocrites the complainers on here are.  The delusional car thread has more delusional members than cars.  Maybe the people this applies to should lower their Insurance "agreed values" to what they think they should pay for a car. YEAH RIGHT, hypocrites.  Anything is worth what someone is willing to pay, PERIOD.  If you don't like the price, make an offer and if not accepted then don't buy it and move on.  You guys are turning into a bunch of Grumpy Old Men that complain about everything not to mention most of you aren't even looking to buy a car anyway unless someone practically gives it to you.

IMO, well said  :2thumbs:

 
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: ws23rt on March 24, 2018, 05:42:32 PM
Quote from: Challenger340 on March 24, 2018, 08:53:16 AM
Quote from: Y1CHARGER on March 24, 2018, 07:46:12 AM
What a bunch of hypocrites the complainers on here are.  The delusional car thread has more delusional members than cars.  Maybe the people this applies to should lower their Insurance "agreed values" to what they think they should pay for a car. YEAH RIGHT, hypocrites.  Anything is worth what someone is willing to pay, PERIOD.  If you don't like the price, make an offer and if not accepted then don't buy it and move on.  You guys are turning into a bunch of Grumpy Old Men that complain about everything not to mention most of you aren't even looking to buy a car anyway unless someone practically gives it to you.

IMO, well said  :2thumbs:

 



I too agree with -Y1charger- And I am one of those "Grumpy Old Men". :shruggy:
I battle every day with the high (and increasing) cost of everything I encounter.

My/our sense of the value of money is the basic topic here. I feel the pinch because as I try to learn a new perspective and gain a current sense on the "value" of a dollar the rug is pulled further out from under my feet almost -by the day- in every place I shop.

Just today I had a conversation with my 40-year-old son on just this issue. He was telling me about (back in his day: icon_smile_wink:) he used to pay $1.80 for a gal. of gas. EEK.--I could go on but---- :nana:

As for the cost/value of our (hobby) cars go?----It will get as complicated as we let/allow it to get.

How many hours worked at one's job will one be willing to put in to buy into a passion/hobby?

A buyer needs to properly establish their limits. Sellers are as confused as buyers. No one want's to be foolish. We both/all are dealing with a moving target.--Value--








Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: Mytur Binsdirti on March 26, 2018, 06:33:28 AM
Quote from: moparstuart on March 15, 2018, 04:19:10 PM
Ill take 45k for mine 


I'll give you 35 cash.
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: moparstuart on March 26, 2018, 08:34:53 AM
Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on March 26, 2018, 06:33:28 AM
Quote from: moparstuart on March 15, 2018, 04:19:10 PM
Ill take 45k for mine  


I'll give you 35 cash.
40k will just about get me out of my medical bills  
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: CRW-FK5 on March 26, 2018, 10:26:57 AM
It's the way the free market works.  Like it or not, it's better than the alternatives.
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: alfaitalia on March 28, 2018, 03:39:45 PM
Is that a reference to the car prices or his medial bills.....? Or maybe I missed a post. Been a long day!
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: Y1CHARGER on March 29, 2018, 07:36:52 AM
Quote from: moparstuart on March 26, 2018, 08:34:53 AM
Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on March 26, 2018, 06:33:28 AM
Quote from: moparstuart on March 15, 2018, 04:19:10 PM
Ill take 45k for mine  


I'll give you 35 cash.
40k will just about get me out of my medical bills  
Talk about delusional, Now cars aren't even valued on the car but what someone's bills add up to.  I guess my $80K back surgery bill makes my 318 Charger worth $85K.   :scratchchin:
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: moparstuart on March 29, 2018, 08:23:50 AM
Quote from: Y1CHARGER on March 29, 2018, 07:36:52 AM
Quote from: moparstuart on March 26, 2018, 08:34:53 AM
Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on March 26, 2018, 06:33:28 AM
Quote from: moparstuart on March 15, 2018, 04:19:10 PM
Ill take 45k for mine  


I'll give you 35 cash.
40k will just about get me out of my medical bills  
Talk about delusional, Now cars aren't even valued on the car but what someone's bills add up to.  I guess my $80K back surgery bill makes my 318 Charger worth $85K.   :scratchchin:
have you seen my car ?  its worth every bit of 40 k  time capsule barn find  .  Fact i would settle for 40 to get my creditors off my back is why i said that .   Already having health problems dont need the stress anymore .  Its my dream car and i dont want to give it up but outside forces make it out of my controll .
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: Mytur Binsdirti on March 29, 2018, 10:56:55 AM
Quote from: moparstuart on March 29, 2018, 08:23:50 AM

  have you seen my car ?  




Fresh pictures are needed.
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: moparstuart on March 29, 2018, 11:04:29 AM
Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on March 29, 2018, 10:56:55 AM
Quote from: moparstuart on March 29, 2018, 08:23:50 AM

  have you seen my car ?  




Fresh pictures are needed.
I have not done anything to the car except Oil down the cyclinder get it started and get the brakes working .  Just cleaned the plugs and changed the oil.  It runs and drive but still on the old ass tires and has a 3/4 tank of gas from 30 years ago its still running on .  No miss no hesitation , carb is not leaking and the gas smells fine not stale or nasty smelling . Still has points and all the same wires runs great .   Car is pretty much as i found it as i didint want to mess anything up .   Taking it slow and keep it as a survivor .  Have not even washed it  .
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: Mytur Binsdirti on March 29, 2018, 12:40:26 PM
That's a description, not pictures.  :RantExplode:
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: moparstuart on March 29, 2018, 01:55:19 PM
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1472940849428472.1073742370.100001377145039&type=1&l=e575ed0263     over 500 pictures here if you have access to Facebook 
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: Challenger340 on March 30, 2018, 09:24:57 AM
Quote from: moparstuart on March 29, 2018, 01:55:19 PM
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1472940849428472.1073742370.100001377145039&type=1&l=e575ed0263     over 500 pictures here if you have access to Facebook  

That car is in fine shape Stuart, and a very unique item.  

If you were to consider selling at $40K ?

apologies here, but IMO, you would NOT qualify for the "delusional" Sellers thread here on this site.
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: moparstuart on March 30, 2018, 09:36:29 AM
Quote from: Challenger340 on March 30, 2018, 09:24:57 AM
Quote from: moparstuart on March 29, 2018, 01:55:19 PM
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1472940849428472.1073742370.100001377145039&type=1&l=e575ed0263     over 500 pictures here if you have access to Facebook  

That car is in fine shape Stuart, and a very unique item.  

If you were to consider selling at $40K ?

apologies here, but IMO, you would NOT qualify for the "delusional" Sellers thread here on this site.
I absolutely love the car and do not want to sell , its a true time capsule and so cool . Plus the documentation back to the original owner and selling dealership .   :brickwall: But life happens
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: Mytur Binsdirti on March 30, 2018, 09:42:19 AM
Quote from: moparstuart on March 30, 2018, 09:36:29 AM
Quote from: Challenger340 on March 30, 2018, 09:24:57 AM
Quote from: moparstuart on March 29, 2018, 01:55:19 PM
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1472940849428472.1073742370.100001377145039&type=1&l=e575ed0263     over 500 pictures here if you have access to Facebook  

That car is in fine shape Stuart, and a very unique item.  

If you were to consider selling at $40K ?

apologies here, but IMO, you would NOT qualify for the "delusional" Sellers thread here on this site.
I absolutely love the car and do not want to sell , its a true time capsule and so cool . Plus the documentation back to the original owner and selling dealership .   :brickwall: But life happens


I get it.
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: Challenger340 on March 30, 2018, 10:45:23 AM
Quote from: moparstuart on March 30, 2018, 09:36:29 AM
Quote from: Challenger340 on March 30, 2018, 09:24:57 AM
Quote from: moparstuart on March 29, 2018, 01:55:19 PM
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1472940849428472.1073742370.100001377145039&type=1&l=e575ed0263     over 500 pictures here if you have access to Facebook  

That car is in fine shape Stuart, and a very unique item.  

If you were to consider selling at $40K ?

apologies here, but IMO, you would NOT qualify for the "delusional" Sellers thread here on this site.
I absolutely love the car and do not want to sell , its a true time capsule and so cool . Plus the documentation back to the original owner and selling dealership .   :brickwall: But life happens


Yep, life is what it is...
if you decide to liquidate slip me a pm... I know some very no nonsense stand up type Guys who would be interested.
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: 70Y3RT on April 24, 2018, 06:15:27 PM
The car(and myself) will be on Discovery Channel Monday 4/30 at 10:00PM EST for anyone that wants to watch...  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: Mytur Binsdirti on April 24, 2018, 06:54:34 PM
Quote from: 70Y3RT on April 24, 2018, 06:15:27 PM
The car(and myself) will be on Discovery Channel Monday 4/30 at 10:00PM EST for anyone that wants to watch...  :2thumbs:


When we see you, should we be shocked?
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: hemi-hampton on April 24, 2018, 09:42:15 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on March 29, 2018, 08:23:50 AM
Quote from: Y1CHARGER on March 29, 2018, 07:36:52 AM
Quote from: moparstuart on March 26, 2018, 08:34:53 AM
Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on March 26, 2018, 06:33:28 AM
Quote from: moparstuart on March 15, 2018, 04:19:10 PM
Ill take 45k for mine  


I'll give you 35 cash.
40k will just about get me out of my medical bills  
Talk about delusional, Now cars aren't even valued on the car but what someone's bills add up to.  I guess my $80K back surgery bill makes my 318 Charger worth $85K.   :scratchchin:
have you seen my car ?  its worth every bit of 40 k  time capsule barn find  .  Fact i would settle for 40 to get my creditors off my back is why i said that .   Already having health problems dont need the stress anymore .  Its my dream car and i dont want to give it up but outside forces make it out of my controll .



I know how you feel, same reason I had to sell my Charger. LEON.
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: hemi-hampton on April 24, 2018, 09:50:16 PM
Quote from: 70Y3RT on April 24, 2018, 06:15:27 PM
The car(and myself) will be on Discovery Channel Monday 4/30 at 10:00PM EST for anyone that wants to watch...  :2thumbs:


What's the name of the show? LEON.
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: 70Y3RT on April 25, 2018, 08:16:20 AM
Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on April 24, 2018, 06:54:34 PM
Quote from: 70Y3RT on April 24, 2018, 06:15:27 PM
The car(and myself) will be on Discovery Channel Monday 4/30 at 10:00PM EST for anyone that wants to watch...  :2thumbs:


When we see you, should we be shocked?
maybe at my horrible acting... lol
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: 70Y3RT on April 25, 2018, 08:17:07 AM
Quote from: hemi-hampton on April 24, 2018, 09:50:16 PM
Quote from: 70Y3RT on April 24, 2018, 06:15:27 PM
The car(and myself) will be on Discovery Channel Monday 4/30 at 10:00PM EST for anyone that wants to watch...  :2thumbs:


What's the name of the show? LEON.

Sticker Shock
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: hemi-hampton on April 25, 2018, 08:26:31 PM
Quote from: 70Y3RT on April 25, 2018, 08:17:07 AM
Quote from: hemi-hampton on April 24, 2018, 09:50:16 PM
Quote from: 70Y3RT on April 24, 2018, 06:15:27 PM
The car(and myself) will be on Discovery Channel Monday 4/30 at 10:00PM EST for anyone that wants to watch...  :2thumbs:


What's the name of the show? LEON.

Sticker Shock


Well, Whoever bought it tell them I'll do the Paint & Bodywork on that rust bucket for $50k.
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: 70Y3RT on April 26, 2018, 09:00:44 AM
Quote from: hemi-hampton on April 25, 2018, 08:26:31 PM
Quote from: 70Y3RT on April 25, 2018, 08:17:07 AM
Quote from: hemi-hampton on April 24, 2018, 09:50:16 PM
Quote from: 70Y3RT on April 24, 2018, 06:15:27 PM
The car(and myself) will be on Discovery Channel Monday 4/30 at 10:00PM EST for anyone that wants to watch...  :2thumbs:


What's the name of the show? LEON.

Sticker Shock


Well, Whoever bought it tell them I'll do the Paint & Bodywork on that rust bucket for $50k.

Was hardly a "Rust Bucket" It was purchased by a Charger restoration shop on the east coast...
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: Challenger340 on April 26, 2018, 10:14:22 AM
Thanks for sharing, I will try and watch the show.

As long as you got what you were asking and came out ahead ? the discovery show is just a bonus :2thumbs:

So what did the Charger Appraise at price-wise ?
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: 70Y3RT on April 26, 2018, 03:16:43 PM
Quote from: Challenger340 on April 26, 2018, 10:14:22 AM
Thanks for sharing, I will try and watch the show.

As long as you got what you were asking and came out ahead ? the discovery show is just a bonus :2thumbs:

So what did the Charger Appraise at price-wise ?
His appraisal was pretty accurate, $25-28K, And I felt at my $30K price tag on the car I was on the high side, but I really was on the fence if I even wanted to sell, that was kinda my "they want it more than me" price!
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: chargervert on April 27, 2018, 11:25:01 AM
So did you buy a 68 Charger yet?
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: 70Y3RT on April 30, 2018, 09:51:41 AM
Quote from: chargervert on April 27, 2018, 11:25:01 AM
So did you buy a 68 Charger yet?
Still looking... I have one that I found that I really want, owner is just on the fence about selling... But I have a 71 Duster, 65 Coronet, and a 66 A100 to keep me busy in the meantime...
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: hemi-hampton on April 30, 2018, 09:17:57 PM
YOUR A STAR NOW.
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: 70Y3RT on April 30, 2018, 10:40:25 PM
Quote from: hemi-hampton on April 30, 2018, 09:17:57 PM
YOUR A STAR NOW.
Yeh, time to quit my day job
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: Fitz73Chrgr on May 03, 2018, 03:16:26 AM
Quote from: moparstuart on March 29, 2018, 11:04:29 AM
has a 3/4 tank of gas from 30 years ago its still running on .  No miss no hesitation , carb is not leaking and the gas smells fine not stale or nasty smelling

I think you're taking this "all original" thing too far...
Title: Re: unrestored Y3 70 charger R/T
Post by: moparstuart on May 03, 2018, 09:38:48 AM
Quote from: Fitz73Chrgr on May 03, 2018, 03:16:26 AM
Quote from: moparstuart on March 29, 2018, 11:04:29 AM
has a 3/4 tank of gas from 30 years ago its still running on .  No miss no hesitation , carb is not leaking and the gas smells fine not stale or nasty smelling

I think you're taking this "all original" thing too far...
could be   :icon_smile_big: