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Title: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: Just 6T9 CHGR on May 28, 2007, 05:01:02 AM
Crap......  :rotz:

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Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: THE CHARGER PUNK on May 28, 2007, 05:09:26 AM
dash tag looks crumpled i wonder what became of the rest
Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: 69_500 on May 28, 2007, 10:25:59 AM
Not sure what became of the rest of the car. I had the VIN number wrote down as a known car. And had it listed as being a black 500. However I didn't have it listed as one that had been scraped. I'm bidding on the tag, so hopefully I'll get it.
Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: Drache on May 29, 2007, 05:44:33 PM
Why do I see three X9's on that tag?  ???

Also the ling with all the X9's... isn't there one number section too many?

M21 - Drip Rail Mouldings
N31 - Optional Engine Compression Ratio
N85 - Tach
R11 - AM Radio
V88 - Transverse Tape Sport Stripes - Delete
26 - Rad
A11 - Special Model - Charger 500
A36 - Performance Axel Package
B41 - Front Disc Brakeswith rear drum
B51 - power brakes
C16 - console with woodgrain
C55 - Bucket seats
E86 - 440-4 bbl
D32 - 3-spd auto
C13 - Production Date 12/12/1968
X9 - ??
X9 - ??
C6X - Trim grade Charger, trim style, vinyl buckets, trim color, white and black
X9 - ??
925743 - Order Number
242644 - Serial Number
XX29 - 500 or Daytona
Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: Charger1973 on May 29, 2007, 06:03:44 PM
Jeez they didnt even bother to drill out the rivets.  It looks like it was pried off with a screwdriver.  I wonder if they are stolen? 
Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: UFO on May 29, 2007, 06:15:21 PM
Drache, That is normal.A lot of tags have the paint codes in two spots.I`m assuming its upper body,lower body.If you have a `69 service manual,check out the body code plate diagram.Somewhere farther in the year it got dropped to one listing.
Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: Drache on May 29, 2007, 06:19:05 PM
Quote from: UFO on May 29, 2007, 06:15:21 PM
Drache, That is normal.A lot of tags have the paint codes in two spots.I`m assuming its upper body,lower body.If you have a `69 service manual,check out the body code plate diagram.Somewhere farther in the year it got dropped to one listing.

So that accounts for 2 of them by why the third and why the extra section for that line?  :icon_smile_big:
Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: UFO on May 29, 2007, 06:20:04 PM
Third X9 is interior trim color.
Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: UFO on May 29, 2007, 06:21:56 PM
I just went back to your breakdown.C6X is all black int. C6W is black and white.
Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: hemigeno on May 29, 2007, 06:22:20 PM
That third one is referred to as the Upper Door Paint color.  If you look underneath the door pads, you'll see remnants of that color on the metal door frame itself.



Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: hemigeno on May 29, 2007, 06:28:24 PM
I don't think that the double body color paint thing was a mid-year change.  It did differ between assembly plants though.

This is what I've observed on '69 tags anyway:

>>  At Hamtramck, if a car came with a Vinyl top, it only had one body color paint code on the Fender Tag (in the second "block", the first "block" is left empty)

>>  At Hamtramck, if a car came with no Vinyl top, it had two body color paint codes on the Fender Tag

>>  At St. Louis, it seems that all cars had two paint codes - whether or not it came with a V-top.  Doug (69CoronetRT) can correct me on this, but I have several examples that follow this pattern.


Hope that helps explain things a bit!

Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: FJMG on May 29, 2007, 08:03:42 PM
    Yes that is what I have seen on these cars, body color, roof color and then the upper door frame color. This is usually coded under UDF on the b/cast sheet. For instance I have seen a copper daytona listed as T5, T5, T3, and an orange one listed as V2, V2, X9.
Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: UFO on May 29, 2007, 08:05:09 PM
I had thought about the vinyl/no vinyl roof deal.Never thought to check plant codes.The ones I have follow hemigeno`s post.
Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: 69_500 on May 29, 2007, 08:33:17 PM
does anyone here know the gentleman who is the high bidder currently? Just curious as I don't want to bid against someone who is known here. I'd just rather those tags wind up somewhere that they won't eventually wind up on some car down the road that is being passed off as a factory X9 Charger 500.
Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: WINGMAN on May 29, 2007, 09:09:41 PM
  Danny   Tornado- alley- mopar  the high bidder   is Clint H from Oklahoma. As far is i know he ownes some 69 chargers but not a 500 or Daytona. He bids on tons of stuff on the bag. And he is not a member of this group as far as i know. I have bid against him on parts and he will run it up there. Hope this helps.    Jay. :icon_smile_cool:
Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: Charger1973 on May 29, 2007, 09:14:47 PM
Quote from: WINGMAN on May 29, 2007, 09:09:41 PMhe ownes some 69 chargers but not a 500 or Daytona

Not yet anyway...   :scratchchin:
Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: Just 6T9 CHGR on May 30, 2007, 02:27:17 AM
Quote from: hemigeno on May 29, 2007, 06:28:24 PM
I don't think that the double body color paint thing was a mid-year change.  It did differ between assembly plants though.

This is what I've observed on '69 tags anyway:

>>  At Hamtramck, if a car came with a Vinyl top, it only had one body color paint code on the Fender Tag (in the second "block", the first "block" is left empty)

>>  At Hamtramck, if a car came with no Vinyl top, it had two body color paint codes on the Fender Tag

>>  At St. Louis, it seems that all cars had two paint codes - whether or not it came with a V-top.  Doug (69CoronetRT) can correct me on this, but I have several examples that follow this pattern.


Hope that helps explain things a bit!



:iagree:
Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: WheresMyCharger on May 30, 2007, 06:05:47 PM
Quote from: 69_500 on May 29, 2007, 08:33:17 PM
does anyone here know the gentleman who is the high bidder currently? Just curious as I don't want to bid against someone who is known here. I'd just rather those tags wind up somewhere that they won't eventually wind up on some car down the road that is being passed off as a factory X9 Charger 500.
:iagree:

I'll donate to one of the registry guys, just to keep the tags documented
Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: 69_500 on June 01, 2007, 03:56:44 PM
Not exactly sure what a good price would be at this point. I was thinking that the final price would be around $75, and I was willing to go that far, but it appears that it will cost a tad more than that to put those tags in a box.
Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: Chris G. on June 01, 2007, 04:56:56 PM
The bidder "tornado_alley_mopar" bids on a lot of tags. Not sure what his angle is, but he has outbid me a few times. Not sure how many he wins though.
Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: 69_500 on June 01, 2007, 04:59:31 PM
Well either way, $100 won't touch it.
Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: Ghoste on June 01, 2007, 11:24:13 PM
Tornado alley??  That isn't one of those Kansas Mafia types is it?
Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: 69_500 on June 03, 2007, 11:12:36 AM
Wow, it looks like $180 won't do it now either. Out of my league now. More money than I want to spend just to put something in a box.
Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: 69CoronetRT on June 03, 2007, 11:55:32 AM
Quote from: Just 6T9_CHGR.... on May 30, 2007, 02:27:17 AM
Quote from: hemigeno on May 29, 2007, 06:28:24 PM
I don't think that the double body color paint thing was a mid-year change.  It did differ between assembly plants though.

This is what I've observed on '69 tags anyway:

>>  At Hamtramck, if a car came with a Vinyl top, it only had one body color paint code on the Fender Tag (in the second "block", the first "block" is left empty)

>>  At Hamtramck, if a car came with no Vinyl top, it had two body color paint codes on the Fender Tag

>>  At St. Louis, it seems that all cars had two paint codes - whether or not it came with a V-top.  Doug (69CoronetRT) can correct me on this, but I have several examples that follow this pattern.


Hope that helps explain things a bit!



:iagree:

:iagree:

Sorry.. a little slow in seeing this on. 69 STL tags show both upper and lower paint codes for all cars regardless if they have a vinyl top or even if they were convertibles. This is one way to spot a badly remade tag. (See attachment. 69 STL convertible with only one paint code)

Also, FWIW... the same holds true for A body convertibles at 69 Hamtramck; only one paint code just like the vinyl top cars.

And, correct me if I'm wrong, Charger 500s could not come with a vinyl top so all of them should show two paint codes.
Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: PocketThunder on June 03, 2007, 01:32:19 PM
Quote from: 69CoronetRT on June 03, 2007, 11:55:32 AM
Sorry.. a little slow in seeing this on. 69 STL tags show both upper and lower paint codes for all cars regardless if they have a vinyl top or even if they were convertibles. This is one way to spot a badly remade tag. (See attachment. 69 STL convertible with only one paint code)

Also, FWIW... the same holds true for A body convertibles at 69 Hamtramck; only one paint code just like the vinyl top cars.

And, correct me if I'm wrong, Charger 500s could not come with a vinyl top so all of them should show two paint codes.

:yesnod:  My car has a Vinly Top and it shows two paint codes.  I have assumed that the VT was a later add on.
Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: 69_500 on June 03, 2007, 03:28:47 PM
I'm still under the impression that all the 500's with the vinyl tops were dealer installed items. Either at the request of the first owner, or just something the dealership decided to do later to try to sell the cars. Kind of like the odd paintings on Daytona's to try to sell them.

I tried to buy those tags, but I was outbid by about $30. I never thought they would go for $280.
Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: Charger1973 on June 03, 2007, 03:36:10 PM
Quote from: 69_500 on June 03, 2007, 03:28:47 PM
I'm still under the impression that all the 500's with the vinyl tops were dealer installed items. Either at the request of the first owner, or just something the dealership decided to do later to try to sell the cars. Kind of like the odd paintings on Daytona's to try to sell them.

I tried to buy those tags, but I was outbid by about $30. I never thought they would go for $280.

Didnt that burnt up Daytona go for like $40,000?  There wasnt anything usable on it but a vin number....  So technically this was a hell of a deal.   ;)
Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: Just 6T9 CHGR on June 03, 2007, 05:30:34 PM
Anyone know who the high bidder is?   Looking at his feedback he's buying Charger stuff as well as Hemi parts.....crap  :rotz:
Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: Beep Beep Dave on June 04, 2007, 11:03:45 AM
Quote from: Just 6T9_CHGR.... on June 03, 2007, 05:30:34 PM
Anyone know who the high bidder is?   Looking at his feedback he's buying Charger stuff as well as Hemi parts.....crap  :rotz:

No idea I bid $176. I am surprised the auction ran its full course. Doesn't ebay usually pull those?

Dave 
Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: 69bronzeT5 on June 04, 2007, 01:55:39 PM
So did anybody here get it???
Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: 69bronzeT5 on June 04, 2007, 01:57:32 PM
Quote from: THE CHARGER PUNK on May 28, 2007, 05:09:26 AM
dash tag looks crumpled i wonder what became of the rest

Probally the same thing that happened to the Coronet :'(
Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: tan top on June 04, 2007, 03:14:28 PM
 sad sight to see , was that a known C500
Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: 69_500 on June 04, 2007, 05:27:39 PM
Was a known C500. Wasn't anything new, but I was bid out at $250. I wasn't willing to go any higher just to throw the tags in a box. I have no clue who the winning bidder is, but I know it wasn't me.
Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: tan top on June 04, 2007, 05:48:07 PM
thanks for the info ( 69_500) :thumbs:    guess we will  never know how it met its demise & what happend to the remains ... :scratchchin:
Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: 69_500 on June 04, 2007, 08:14:57 PM
Someone has to know. I tried asking the seller for information, but never got an answer back.
Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: 70charger_boy on June 04, 2007, 09:05:04 PM
 :scratchchin:
Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: 69_500 on June 05, 2007, 04:21:00 PM
Anyone else notice the adds on ebay claiming to have interior pieces from a 69 Charger 500 for sale? Blue interior. I questioned that seller as well, and he says they will be listing the shell in August.
Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: tan top on June 05, 2007, 04:37:53 PM
Quote from: 69_500 on June 05, 2007, 04:21:00 PM
Anyone else notice the adds on ebay claiming to have interior pieces from a 69 Charger 500 for sale? Blue interior. I questioned that seller as well, and he says they will be listing the shell in August.
sounds intresting  :popcrn:
Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: 70charger_boy on June 05, 2007, 05:03:39 PM
I'm really starting to hate ebay
Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: 69_500 on June 06, 2007, 06:37:48 PM
Why would you hate it? Its the people who use it that irritate me, not the service they provide.
Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: 70charger_boy on June 06, 2007, 06:43:37 PM
I really like the good deals on parts, it's just all the shady sellers on ebay that make me hate it.  Example-I bid on a car and 2 minutes later I get outbid.  When I sell a car, nobody bids on it until the last second.  Plus, you have alot of shady people that will lie lie lie about quality of car :RantExplode:
Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: 69_500 on June 06, 2007, 06:48:19 PM
There might be a reason that no one bids on a car that your selling. could be a non desireable car, or it could be bad photo's, or a bad advertisement. Or possible that there was more identical cars for sale at the same time. As far as being out bid, that is just part of the auction game. I get out bid on probably 80% of the items I bid on. I know what my limit is, and if someone else is willing to pay more, so be it.
Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: Ghoste on June 07, 2007, 04:12:13 AM
People wait until the last second to bid because even though we all feel resigned to use it, buying through a bidding process is inherantly distasteful.  Who the hell wants to voluntarily pay the most for anything?
Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: 69_500 on June 07, 2007, 05:38:23 PM
Depends on what item it is. Some items that I desperately want, I'll go ahead and bid a ridiculous amount on to assure that I get them. As in the case for some 500 memorbilia I have. I knew it would take say $80 to get an item, I'd bid $150 just to be on the safe side. Wound up paying around $130 for it. $50 more than I should have, but I wanted it.
Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: Ghoste on June 07, 2007, 08:58:00 PM
So you're the guy...
Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: 69_500 on June 07, 2007, 09:30:16 PM
On some things yeah :)

Talked to a HEMI 500 owner tonight. That was a great 2 hours. Okay so he sold the car a few years back, but it was one that we all know. The first 69.
Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: Ghoste on June 07, 2007, 10:06:45 PM
Does he regret selling it?
Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: 69_500 on June 09, 2007, 06:21:03 AM
Seems that its more of his son that regrets the selling of the car, rather than him. I know exactly how that feels too.

He did say that when he first bought the car though, it had the Kelsey hayes wheels on it, but one rim was cracked, so he took it back to the dealership, and they put on the set up hubcaps. He also said that he had the motor taken apart 2 seperate times. whe he first got it he said it ran a little rough, so they tore the motor down then. And actually beefed it up to drag race the car for a time. After a few years he tore it down again to take it back to stock.
Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: Ghoste on June 09, 2007, 07:58:01 AM
This is when it was in New York, correct?
Title: Re: X9 black C500 VIN & fender tag on eBay....
Post by: 69_500 on June 09, 2007, 03:33:26 PM
correct,