Ok let's pretend you win the dealership lottery and get a new Demon. You decide to store it in a barn (hopefully a heated one with a concrete floor) for 30 years so it can be barn find 2050. How would you store it for 30 years?
1. Gas-my thoughts are put a can or two of stabilizer in the system and run it until it dies from lack of fuel?
2. Oil-fill all cylinders with synthetic oil after replacing any used oil with new synthetic?
3. Tires-put it on jack stands so tires don't hang loose, but so they jest lightly touch ground?
4. Tranny-not sure what to do here-replace fluid with synthetic?
5. Rear diff-not sure here either-replace lube with synthetic?
6. Suspension-assuming it is sealed do you do anything? maybe spray all exposed rubber with WD-40?
7. Interior-put several moisture absorbing cans inside with not to replace every 6 months on car cover. Leave every sticker and tag alone?
8. Exterior-buy a great car cover and leave it alone?
What am I missing? Oh yeah-a Demon
In 30 years I will not be around, but if I were I will keep all the oils and coolant in it and put it in one of those large car bags. Jay.
Interesting topic, unfortunately i have no faith in modern day cars, sure you can save the body, interior and minimize the damage to mechanical ... but the electrical would be shot after 30 years haha.
Too much plastic in modern cars.
It will break down over time.
Take the battery right out of the car
Remove the battery, completely drain the fuel system and pump in a pickling fluid (preservative oil), remove the spark plugs and spray pickling fluid in the holes, then replace the plugs; push it into one of those inflatable bags and place the suspension on jack stands.
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You can buy one now on Ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2018-Dodge-Challenger-Demon-/322526553788?hash=item4b1814a6bc:g:SCgAAOSwIaFZJFvP&vxp=mtr
Having an 800+ horse power car and never beating on it is like dating a super model, and never taking her to bed just so the next guy can :slap:
Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on May 25, 2017, 09:56:04 AM
Too much plastic in modern cars.
It will break down over time.
Hmmm...well since they have effectively banned plastic bags over here...the main reason being they take about a thousand years to break down in landfill sites..I really would not worry about the plastic in a modern car breaking down anytime soon. Assuming this imaginary "barn" is pretty much dark then the plastic should pretty much last indefinitely...UV being it's main enemy.
part of the reason our cars are so desirable and valuable is they came from the made in america generation, no chinese parts. dodge wasnt owned by fiat, parts produced by the cheapest bidder overseas and plastic just about everywhere. i dont believe that if you stored a demon for 30 years it will gain much value. i feel it is a bad investment. you might gain more profit margin by buying pile of shit project car and storing it for another 30 years
Quote from: cbrestorations on May 25, 2017, 05:22:56 PM
part of the reason our cars are so desirable and valuable is they came from the made in america generation, no chinese parts. dodge wasnt owned by fiat, parts produced by the cheapest bidder overseas and plastic just about everywhere. i dont believe that if you stored a demon for 30 years it will gain much value. i feel it is a bad investment. you might gain more profit margin by buying pile of shit project car and storing it for another 30 years
Ditto. Plus everyone wasn't trying to time/play the market and store cars back then. Too many people are trying to time the market today. And the energy crises accelerated the drying up of the muscle car pool...
DRIVE IT!! That's what it was built for.....Life is to short to be saving it for someone in the future :Twocents:
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Keep it in the garage and Drive the hell out of it on (nice days)and enjoy it just like my 68 Charger. You wouldn't put more than 50K on it in 30 years driving it on weekends that are nice.
Quote from: moparchris on May 25, 2017, 04:44:56 PM
Having an 800+ horse power car and never beating on it is like dating a super model, and never taking her to bed just so the next guy can :slap:
:iagree:
Quote from: flyinlow on May 26, 2017, 11:48:23 AM
Quote from: moparchris on May 25, 2017, 04:44:56 PM
Having an 800+ horse power car and never beating on it is like dating a super model, and never taking her to bed just so the next guy can :slap:
:iagree:
Truth.
The problem with all modern "collectibles" is more people intentionally try to preserve them or keep miles down. Most of the time, this strategy just leads to a lot of real nice low mileage depreciated cars on the market. If the Demon turns out to be the high water mark, it may be the exception.
As mentioned, even if you do everything right, I feel that electronics and climate control systems on the modern supercars will be the biggest problem once the manufacturer ceases support.
This is no different than the hellcat charger/challenger folks have saved up and not driven since they bough it. I had one guy here in Phoenix wont touch his hellcat challenger he has it stored in temp controlled room, bubble, tags, pics of the dealership he bought it from, he even towed it out of the dealership floor because he didn't want to drive it. He said this should be wroth 1 million dollars in 20 plus years..... ::)
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on May 28, 2017, 02:23:40 AM
This is no different than the hellcat charger/challenger folks have saved up and not driven since they bough it. I had one guy here in Phoenix wont touch his hellcat challenger he has it stored in temp controlled room, bubble, tags, pics of the dealership he bought it from, he even towed it out of the dealership floor because he didn't want to drive it. He said this should be wroth 1 million dollars in 20 plus years..... ::)
Dangit...I got to wait we 20 years to call him a dumbass
Only if we live that much longer. :shruggy:
drive it on sunny Sundays (never see rain ) and store it in one of those car cocoons https://www.carbag.com/carjacket/
put 1 or 2 k on it a year and keep every bit of dealer paperwork + find all the advertising material / pamphlets etc for it and keep it all together .
maybe go out and buy a shedload of consumables ( belts, hoses etc ) while they are new ( later they will be NOS)
Quote from: moparchris on May 25, 2017, 04:44:56 PM
Having an 800+ horse power car and never beating on it is like dating a super model, and never taking her to bed just so the next guy can :slap:
Agreed. You don't know what to do with it, but you like telling people you have it.
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What an idiot. Need to get his facts straight too!
"This is by far the most powerful, mean looking, rare, and ridiculous production car ever made."
Ermm....no....not by a long chalk....on any of those "facts".
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Man the truck fender flares look awesome!!! looks cheap, was it farmed out to "pimp my ride" for the aftermarket upgrades?
If somebody has $85K to throw away on a toy car that will be out-ponied in another year or 2 like the Hellcat is now for 30 years on HOPING to see an eventual windfall... well... go for it ::) I'd suggest investing in something more traditional like stocks and bonds, etc.
Or just drive the dam thing for a year and trading it in on the next big thing when it comes out... YOU KNOW YOU WANT IT!!! :icon_smile_big:
Will they be worth anything in 30 years if the cars are all electric or hydrogen? Not to mention not self driving. Our old ones i can see a continued aftermarket to keep updating drivelines. Not so sure about newer ones.