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Title: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bobfist on December 16, 2010, 03:12:49 PM
Hi!
We are going to make a replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille and wondering how many  that are interested?

Any questions: contact me at gigolos83@hotmail.com

Bobfist
Title: Re: New replica molding of Charger 69 grille!
Post by: richRTSE on December 16, 2010, 08:01:08 PM
Do you mean the aluminum trim I-piece (which is already being made) or the plastic center grill section???
Title: Re: New replica molding of Charger 69 grille!
Post by: bobfist on December 16, 2010, 09:27:20 PM
This is the plastic grille
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: NMike on December 17, 2010, 12:49:35 AM
you mean who ISN'T interested.
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bobfist on December 17, 2010, 12:54:24 AM
 :shruggy:  :icon_smile_big: anyway We Will have a few New ones shortly
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: Troy on December 17, 2010, 11:25:44 AM
What process will be used to manufacture them?

Troy
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bobfist on December 17, 2010, 12:19:00 PM
Casting
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: SFRT on December 17, 2010, 12:25:20 PM
so they will be resin? :eek2:
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: Troy on December 17, 2010, 12:35:54 PM
Yeah, that was tried already and made for some droopy grills. Not to mention the company doing it took a lot of people's money and ran (not saying you'll do that of course). In my opinion, they'd have to be dirt cheap - cheap enough to be considered temporary so people would deal with the drawbacks and for people who have nothing to start with. If someone has to pay a lot then they're more likely to repair a broken original.

Troy
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bobfist on December 17, 2010, 12:36:37 PM
Dont say anything before you seen them
Let my show it before and you guys Can try them out ?
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: twodko on December 17, 2010, 12:49:23 PM
I was always under the impression the OEM grilles were injection molded. Be that as it may, I think there's a strong market for the center grille section. I also think if you're going to reproduce the center portion, produce the end pieces as well.  :Twocents:

I look forward to seing your product with several close-up shots, the more detail the better. Good luck
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: Troy on December 17, 2010, 01:47:59 PM
It would be nice if all the pieces are made at the same time to cut down of fitment/finish issues. The sides/ends are compatible with 68 and 69 so there are more used pieces out there - but they all crack in the corners and break at the point under the ends of the bumper. The passenger headlight door is also the same for both years. The 69 center pieces can be made using the same tooling as the 68 with an insert. The 68 only headlight bezels are a popular addition on 69s. If you make more than the center having both years of parts will help offset the costs.

I know someone who has started on an injection molded version but isn't willing to commit the cash at this point. Doing it "right" is very expensive. I haven't found too many people willing to say that a cast part will have the strength to stay straight for long. The sun, heat, and the length of the span require some pretty sturdy material. If you can make it work then more power to you!

Troy
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bobfist on December 17, 2010, 02:02:37 PM
I will try and show the product for you guys. Anyone know any thing about copyright on these parts?
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: Troy on December 17, 2010, 02:12:56 PM
Quote from: bobfist on December 17, 2010, 02:02:37 PM
I will try and show the product for you guys. Anyone know any thing about copyright on these parts?
Don't put a part number on it unless you're prepared to pay Mopar for licensing.

Troy
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bobfist on December 17, 2010, 02:16:27 PM
If i dont put any number on it im cool?
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: gtx6970 on December 17, 2010, 03:05:17 PM
Quote from: bobfist on December 17, 2010, 02:16:27 PM
If i dont put any number on it im cool?
afaik,
Yes, you'll be fine
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bobfist on December 17, 2010, 03:24:50 PM
Sounds great bec i dont want to be any problem for mopar
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: SFRT on December 17, 2010, 04:24:44 PM
yes, the real ones are ABS and that requires a machine tool that goes into an injection machine. big $$$$$$$$

resin going to be FRAGILE
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bull on December 26, 2010, 05:21:01 AM
I'll be blunt. Unless it's going to be done using injection moulding it's going to be crap. And unless you've got about $40k minimum you don't have enough money to even get started. The only other way I can think of that this might work is with one of those NextEngine scanners and a Dimension uPrint Personal 3D printer which together would run you about $20k, assuming it's big enough to run a part this size. I researched it and from what I've been able to learn even the biggest 3D printer is barely big enough to handle headlight doors and surrounds, not the middle piece.
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: tan top on December 26, 2010, 05:46:22 AM
Quote from: bull on December 26, 2010, 05:21:01 AM
I'll be blunt. Unless it's going to be done using injection moulding it's going to be crap. And unless you've got about $40k minimum you don't have enough money to even get started. The only other way I can think of that this might work is with one of those NextEngine scanners and a Dimension uPrint Personal 3D printer which together would run you about $20k, assuming it's big enough to run a part this size (which I don't think it is).

yep sorry to say  no injection moulding = no good :Twocents:

awesome idea on grill center sections though BF :cheers:  :popcrn:
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: ac_knight on December 26, 2010, 07:25:42 AM
Well its a start, and I look foward on seeing a finished product.  I will reserve my judgement until then.
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: Arigmaster on January 07, 2011, 08:48:11 PM
I have always wondered if producing them out of aluminum then powder coating would solve the sag and warp problem.

Then again, there would be the problem of oxidation and stone chips or both issues with that. Heavier piece too.  Plus... lots of detail and clean up before powder coat. Just too costly.

Carbon fiber???
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: stripedelete on January 08, 2011, 10:23:36 AM
So, no chance in hell the original mold, machines, equipment, are sitting around somewhere?  Maybe?
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bull on January 08, 2011, 06:35:55 PM
Quote from: stripedelete on January 08, 2011, 10:23:36 AM
So, no chance in hell the original mold, machines, equipment, are sitting around somewhere?  Maybe?

Don't quote me but I've heard a bunch of the original moulding and dies were destroyed in a fire way back when.
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: tan top on January 08, 2011, 07:03:10 PM
Quote from: bull on January 08, 2011, 06:35:55 PM
Quote from: stripedelete on January 08, 2011, 10:23:36 AM
So, no chance in hell the original mold, machines, equipment, are sitting around somewhere?  Maybe?

Don't quote me but I've heard a bunch of the original moulding and dies were destroyed in a fire way back when.

i  read  , that in the 70s  chrysler sold  all the tooling for sheet metal  ,  & engine blocks  , for scrap !!   but who knows  :shruggy: :popcrn:
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: stripedelete on January 08, 2011, 07:36:27 PM
Quote from: tan top on January 08, 2011, 07:03:10 PM
Quote from: bull on January 08, 2011, 06:35:55 PM
Quote from: stripedelete on January 08, 2011, 10:23:36 AM
So, no chance in hell the original mold, machines, equipment, are sitting around somewhere?  Maybe?

Don't quote me but I've heard a bunch of the original moulding and dies were destroyed in a fire way back when.

i  read  , that in the 70s  chrysler sold  all the tooling for sheet metal  ,  & engine blocks  , for scrap !!   but who knows  :shruggy: :popcrn:

Saw a thread about arm rest bases where someone discovered/noticed a second supplier of plastic trim pieces.  Wonder what the chances are that every part had a 2ND / backup supplier?  Probably a rhetorical question. Because if I had a mold sitting around, I would probably be checking into what it was for, and if there was any demand.

I wonder if a "repair jig(s)" could be produced affordably?  Just thinking outloud.
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bull on January 09, 2011, 12:33:49 AM
Yea, that was my Jim Robbins Co. thread. http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,76694.0.htmlI When saw Jim Robbins Co. on my arm rest bases that's exactly where my mind went. I thought, 'what other parts were farmed out and where are those moulds and dies!?'
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: dccustoms on January 31, 2011, 12:04:27 PM
Quote from: bobfist on December 17, 2010, 03:24:50 PM
Sounds great bec i dont want to be any problem for mopar

Any updates? Progress? Pics?

I know the entire Mopar community is eagerly waiting.
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bull on January 31, 2011, 01:41:06 PM
I hate to be a wet blanket (or realist) but unless this part is done correctly it's not worth doing. Premier Plastics did the same thing and it was a major setback for those of us who need these parts. I hate to say this but I believe the only way we're ever going to have grill parts nice enough to rival the originals is when someone is willing to lose about $100,000 on moulds.
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bobfist on January 31, 2011, 02:58:10 PM
Dont worry, we will do this, we know what we are doing
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: drifter69 on January 31, 2011, 03:12:13 PM
Is it just around the corner? what kind of time frame are you looking at. :shruggy:
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bobfist on January 31, 2011, 03:19:54 PM
We shall meet the production guy in Feb and discuss how to begin the process.
Let us try and i send you guys a test product to validate :)
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: terrible one on January 31, 2011, 03:42:40 PM
Quote from: bobfist on January 31, 2011, 03:19:54 PM
We shall meet the production guy in Feb and discuss how to begin the process.
Let us try and i send you guys a test product to validate :)


Cool! Best of luck and ready to see how it turns out . . . then you can do the '68 next  :D
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bobfist on January 31, 2011, 03:47:17 PM
we have already talked about the 68 yes :)
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: terrible one on January 31, 2011, 04:17:03 PM
Quote from: bobfist on January 31, 2011, 03:47:17 PM
we have already talked about the 68 yes :)

:cheers: :popcrn:
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: 694spdRT on January 31, 2011, 05:21:19 PM
Is there a way to mold the plastic around some type of metal frame to prevent the warpage problems? There should be a good market for these if the finished product is good.
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bobfist on February 01, 2011, 04:29:19 PM
Sure thats possible but thats not the things we will try this time.
Today we prepared the product.
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bull on February 01, 2011, 05:12:06 PM
Quote from: bobfist on January 31, 2011, 02:58:10 PM
Dont worry, we will do this, we know what we are doing

I'm not worried, I just don't believe you can make a replica of the original part without replicating the original process.
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bobfist on February 01, 2011, 05:19:24 PM
I understand you thoughts, as i say it will be a replica and some of you would not like it and some of you will.
The product will have the same strength  as the original part or even more.
As i say, a replica and not a Mopar original.
When its done i send one over for you to validate?

Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bull on February 02, 2011, 12:50:41 AM
Sure, I'll take a look. If you can convince me you can convince anyone.
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: FLG on February 02, 2011, 01:03:11 AM
Quote from: bull on February 02, 2011, 12:50:41 AM
Sure, I'll take a look. If you can convince me you can convince anyone.

No argument there  :smilielol:

Good luck  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bobfist on February 02, 2011, 12:45:43 PM
I will  ;)
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: 694spdRT on February 02, 2011, 07:42:42 PM
Quote from: bull on February 02, 2011, 12:50:41 AM
Sure, I'll take a look. If you can convince me you can convince anyone.

But you have a '68, are you sure you are qualified to judge a '69 grill?   :nana:
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: Mike DC on February 03, 2011, 05:11:49 AM
The idea has occurred to me to make things from two pieces fastened together.  Make the outer surrounding areas of the grille that need to be strong (the silver painted stuff) in fiberglass, and just use some other type of injection-molded plastic for the center slatted areas. 
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: 1969chargerrtse on February 03, 2011, 06:49:19 AM
Quote from: bull on January 08, 2011, 06:35:55 PM
Quote from: stripedelete on January 08, 2011, 10:23:36 AM
So, no chance in hell the original mold, machines, equipment, are sitting around somewhere?  Maybe?

Don't quote me but I've heard a bunch of the original moulding and dies were destroyed in a fire way back when.
Anything Important to old cars always seems to be gone via some fire.  Like all the record keeping for Mopar and GM classics.
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: Old Moparz on February 03, 2011, 11:16:03 AM
Having been one of the very limited people who actually received a grill from Premiere Plastics, I'd be very interested in seeing this Charger grille too. Not that I am an expert at the methods of how plastic parts are reproduced, but I sure can tell the difference between a decent & usable piece, from a total POS. Also, & something just as important, customer service had better exist.

I used to defend the Premiere Plastics Cuda grille as a halfway decent repro part even though the customer service was a joke. I had thought it would have been usable for a driver, not a show car, but after having it in storage packed safely away & seeing it warp, forget it. I'm sure it would have been usable once installed & supported by the grill frame, but for $550 it was overpriced.
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: NorwayCharger on February 03, 2011, 12:02:38 PM
I am sure that the end product will be as solid as a Volvo  ;)

Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bobfist on February 03, 2011, 04:10:24 PM
It will ! :)
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: six-tee-nine on February 04, 2011, 03:31:35 AM
If its gonna be made in Sweden it might be the first actual part that will be cheaper to purchase for the European guys than for the home country.
Talking about the world upside down :nana:
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: ChargerĀ“69 on February 04, 2011, 04:28:24 AM
This is very interesting  :popcrn: If it is good, I might be interested  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bobfist on February 11, 2011, 03:02:53 PM
Prototype almost done!
WE had to restore the old one to get the piece
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: terrible one on February 11, 2011, 03:05:25 PM
 :popcrn: When do you think you will have one ready to show off?

By the way, great website!
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bobfist on February 11, 2011, 03:12:35 PM
THank you!
We are hoping to get the replica piece done this weekend.
But the fact is that we had to restore my old one before.
I know how hard it is to get all muscle car guys satisfied with the part
and i know its gonna have some "cosmetic" differences from the factory piece.
But will only be notice by the most extreme entusiasts i think.
I asure you that we are doing our best we can...
I hope you guys are still interested
Here are a picture of the rebuilding process , right hand ribs was all gone before  

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x135/bobfist/IMAG0192.jpg)
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: NorwayCharger on February 12, 2011, 06:28:30 AM
Do your best, and it will turn out great  :cheers:
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: ac_knight on February 16, 2011, 02:06:36 PM
I am stoked about this, finally I will be able to get a replacement grille.
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bull on February 16, 2011, 04:27:11 PM
Quote from: 694spdRT on February 02, 2011, 07:42:42 PM
Quote from: bull on February 02, 2011, 12:50:41 AM
Sure, I'll take a look. If you can convince me you can convince anyone.

But you have a '68, are you sure you are qualified to judge a '69 grill?   :nana:

I'm going to need to borrow your car for a few months to try this thing out. When can you deliver it to my house?
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: c00nhunterjoe on February 21, 2011, 01:57:48 PM
Do we have a ballpark for a price and warrenty yet?
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: jam2329 on February 22, 2011, 09:55:51 AM
i will be interested in it as always quality is a must i cant wait to see it  :cheers:
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: model maker on February 23, 2011, 12:44:38 AM
I hope that Finally there will be a sturdy quality replacement grille. :popcrn: :cheers:
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: jam2329 on February 23, 2011, 09:30:29 AM
price can ya give use a ballpark for price and shipping to the states in ya aint in the states that is
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bobfist on February 23, 2011, 01:14:40 PM
You want a price for it shipped to USA?
WE have some container contacts and have no prices yet shipped and done.
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: jam2329 on February 24, 2011, 11:33:18 AM
Quote from: bobfist on February 23, 2011, 01:14:40 PM
You want a price for it shipped to USA?
WE have some container contacts and have no prices yet shipped and done.

I'm patiently waiting to see the finished product and then we can talk turkey an taters with shipping to the USA keep me informed
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bobfist on February 24, 2011, 01:27:51 PM
All shall be done next week, so i write as fast as possible
No one in this thread that know a SEM color close to the tan color of the seats etc in the 69 Charger?
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: NorwayCharger on February 25, 2011, 04:49:37 AM
Quote from: bobfist on February 24, 2011, 01:27:51 PM
All shall be done next week, so i write as fast as possible
No one in this thread that know a SEM color close to the tan color of the seats etc in the 69 Charger?


http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?topic=75912.0 (http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?topic=75912.0)
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bobfist on February 25, 2011, 03:24:58 PM
ah!!
No picture of the results from someone that used all those colors?
and not mixed them special?
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bobfist on February 27, 2011, 05:51:21 AM
Hi. The reproduction are three days away now and we want to know what you guys are willing to pay for a replica.
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: twodko on February 27, 2011, 12:21:05 PM
Bob,
That's a tough question to answer. Primarily I believe it depends on the quality of the replica. If it turns out as nice as an OEM section and has no fitment issues they will command a good price. I suspect over seas buyers i.e. US/Canada/South America will also have to contend with export/shipping/custom fees which need to be considered with the price you set.  :Twocents:
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: jam2329 on February 28, 2011, 10:05:55 AM
be easy on us because it is a replica not oem figure the cost to make one then for your profit set a percentage of the cost to make it, example it cost us $5.00 to mold a door handle we want an additional 10% profit so my asking price will be $5.50 then state buyer pays all shipping cost and in the invoice state



replica 69 charger door handle $5.50
shipping and handling             $2.50

total                                   $8.00

that's where you gotta start because everyone isn't going to tell you hey ill pay you 500 bucks for one because it is not oem that must be taken into consideration and then if its a quality piece it will sell itself as you get the word out

PS the buyer shouldn't know the mark up its bad for biz but don't get 2 crazy if you wanna sell alot of them
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bobfist on February 28, 2011, 03:07:11 PM
Hi!
Thanks for your words.
No i wont tell anymore :)
I just want to help other muscle car guys all around the world :)



Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: FLG on February 28, 2011, 03:23:58 PM
It all depends on the quality of the piece, and if its good quality and people want it you just need too make sure you make some money and cover your costs at the same time.
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: resq302 on February 28, 2011, 10:52:26 PM
Quote from: FLG on February 28, 2011, 03:23:58 PM
It all depends on the quality of the piece, and if its good quality and people want it you just need too make sure you make some money and cover your costs at the same time.

I agree. I tend to pay more for quality repro stuff than even waste a penny on some crap quality repro piece.
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: Lennard on March 05, 2011, 02:43:44 AM
Quote from: bobfist on February 27, 2011, 05:51:21 AM
Hi. The reproduction are three days away now and we want to know what you guys are willing to pay for a replica.

Any news about the grille center :icon_smile_question:
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: BB1 on March 05, 2011, 07:05:46 AM
Back in 1985 I bought one from the Dodge dealer for $70 bucks, new in box.

I though it was alittle high.  ::)


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Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: twodko on March 05, 2011, 02:35:23 PM
Yeah, what is the latest on this? Hey Bob 'sup?
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bobfist on March 09, 2011, 05:41:14 PM
looking good this far, we had some problems but it seams to good anyway.
A massive work on the body at the same time so take a look at this during the process of the grille.

http://www.bobfist.com/Charger%20Gallery/Chargergallery.html
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: ac_knight on March 10, 2011, 07:28:27 AM
That grille is looking good.  I really cant wait to see the finished product.  Just to let you know that I am totally willing to test one of these out for you and give you a fair and unbiased evaluation.  It wouldnt cost you a thing, hell I would even pay for the shipping. :icon_smile_big:   :lol:
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: jam2329 on March 10, 2011, 08:59:34 AM
me 2 lol you got a few really anxious people here bob
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bobfist on March 13, 2011, 04:49:12 PM
Uploaded some pictures in my gallery showing sandblasting and restoring of the rear frame rails and deck filler plenum

www.bobfist.com
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: resq302 on March 13, 2011, 07:03:15 PM
How is the progress on the repro grille?
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: autodynamics on March 14, 2011, 12:14:56 AM
Yea what's up....lol
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: 69charger440 on March 21, 2011, 01:01:22 PM
Well just stumbled across this thread, and well where is this grille? If its truly a great product you can count me in!
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bobfist on March 21, 2011, 02:18:38 PM
Hi guys!
You will see the first ones in a few weeks!
All done!
Keep an eye out in this thread for pictures and info!

Tony at www.bobfist.com
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: Lennard on March 21, 2011, 04:28:51 PM
Quote from: bobfist on March 21, 2011, 02:18:38 PM
Keep an eye out in this thread for pictures and info!
Tony at www.bobfist.com

I'm doing just that almost everyday since you started this thread... ;)
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bobfist on March 21, 2011, 04:44:34 PM
Great!
Its very close now.
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: 69charger440 on March 22, 2011, 11:02:16 AM
Quote from: bobfist on March 21, 2011, 02:18:38 PM
Hi guys!
You will see the first ones in a few weeks!
All done!
Keep an eye out in this thread for pictures and info!

Tony at www.bobfist.com

HMMM, if its all done, post a quick picture up. Cant wait much longer!!
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bobfist on March 22, 2011, 03:34:18 PM
I mean all the contacts to do this is done and the machines are not ready for it yet, we had to wait a few weeks before our parts could be produced
Its a lot of things to think about when doing a part like this.
We promise that you wont be disappointed, you can trust us
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: 69rtse4spd on March 22, 2011, 08:14:58 PM
  :popcrn:, :popcrn:, :popcrn:.
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: twodko on March 22, 2011, 09:59:50 PM
 :popcrn: :think: :popcrn: :think: :popcrn:
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: TexasStroker on March 23, 2011, 01:39:27 PM
Can't wait to see the finished product.  I could really use the center section and would be glad to take one of the early pieces and do a full write-up and review on it  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bobfist on March 23, 2011, 04:34:28 PM
Absolutely!
Week 18 they say the production starts.
Hope you guys can hold un until then.
What do you guys say about the outer grille corners as well?


Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: resq302 on March 23, 2011, 09:39:26 PM
Outer grille corners are a common part to break off for some reason.  I know mine are missing a set.
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: 69charger440 on March 24, 2011, 10:48:40 AM
Quote from: bobfist on March 23, 2011, 04:34:28 PM
Absolutely!
Week 18 they say the production starts.
Hope you guys can hold un until then.
What do you guys say about the outer grille corners as well?




Just make the whole grille, if your sure your product will impress then go ahead lets see the whole grille!
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: Ghoste on March 24, 2011, 10:50:45 AM
I agree.
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: Mike DC on March 24, 2011, 04:44:07 PM
There is plenty of market demand for an all-new plastic grille.

Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bobfist on March 24, 2011, 04:54:47 PM
Ill hope so :)
week 18 and you guys can have them :)

Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: 69charger440 on March 26, 2011, 12:21:43 PM
Quote from: bobfist on March 24, 2011, 04:54:47 PM
Ill hope so :)
week 18 and you guys can have them :)



Ok when is week 18, just give a close date please!!! thanks
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: terrible one on March 26, 2011, 12:41:10 PM
Quote from: 69charger440 on March 26, 2011, 12:21:43 PM
Quote from: bobfist on March 24, 2011, 04:54:47 PM
Ill hope so :)
week 18 and you guys can have them :)



Ok when is week 18, just give a close date please!!! thanks

18 weeks from now is roughly mid July  :scratchchin: :popcrn:
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: BIGBLCK11 on March 26, 2011, 12:56:21 PM
May 2nd, which would be the beginning of the 18th week of the year, is my guess for his timeframe.
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: 69charger440 on March 26, 2011, 01:32:52 PM
yeah, who knows!!!!!  But a date would kill the wondering!! :2thumbs:
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: TexasStroker on March 29, 2011, 01:15:27 AM
You can crank out as much of the grille as you want...folks need the pieces!  This is just the type of thing I want to feature on Lone Star Mopars  :icon_smile_cool:  Once you've got the product out and on your own car you can probably have a mod put a thread up in the Group Buys forum and get the ball rolling. 

A lot of folks probably don't skim this segment looking for a "new grille" so based on the enthusiasm you see here you will probably be pleasantly surprised with the feedback...if it is a quality piece you will probably do very well and make a lot of folks happy along the way.

Best of luck!
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bobfist on March 29, 2011, 12:58:30 PM
THank you!
I hope  you right!


Tony
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: six-tee-nine on March 30, 2011, 12:58:02 PM
That's true and even when you already have a grill then still some people might buy one (maybe even me) a spare can come in handy one day and nobody can say how long you can keep producing them...

:popcrn:
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bobfist on March 30, 2011, 03:06:07 PM
THe date are 2 May and hopefully we can show some parts a few days after that

I have a question...is it possible to dissasemble the Charger 70 grille as the 69 grille?
Any pictures?
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: 69charger440 on March 31, 2011, 10:17:31 AM
Quote from: six-tee-nine on March 30, 2011, 12:58:02 PM
That's true and even when you already have a grill then still some people might buy one (maybe even me) a spare can come in handy one day and nobody can say how long you can keep producing them...

:popcrn:

Heck, I might buy a couple!! I am sure I will be doing another 69 for the wife. THATS IF IT'S A GREAT PRODUCT...
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: BIGBLCK11 on March 31, 2011, 12:25:25 PM
Quote from: bobfist on March 30, 2011, 03:06:07 PM
I have a question...is it possible to dissasemble the Charger 70 grille as the 69 grille?
Any pictures?

No, the center section and outer loop are one piece.

(http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l614/MOPAR_ONE/70_grille.png)
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bobfist on March 31, 2011, 01:00:07 PM
Ah ok, is this the same on both?
We want to produce these two also
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: BIGBLCK11 on March 31, 2011, 01:07:39 PM
Quote from: bobfist on March 31, 2011, 01:00:07 PM
Ah ok, is this the same on both?
We want to produce these two also
What do you mean by both?
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bobfist on March 31, 2011, 01:30:13 PM
the 68 and 70
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: Domino on March 31, 2011, 01:33:01 PM
the 68 is 3 piece like 69, just without the "I" in the middle.  70 is way different.
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bobfist on March 31, 2011, 02:53:20 PM
Ah ok!
Does the market need the 68 grille as well you think?
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: BIGBLCK11 on March 31, 2011, 05:02:07 PM
If you can make them, I think you could sell all 3 easily.  :yesnod:
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: terrible one on March 31, 2011, 07:29:59 PM
Quote from: bobfist on March 31, 2011, 02:53:20 PM
Ah ok!
Does the market need the 68 grille as well you think?

YES!
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: 69charger440 on April 01, 2011, 03:10:12 AM
I know someone who would get a 68 grill!!! If it was up to par!! :2thumbs:
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: NorwayCharger on April 01, 2011, 05:46:24 AM
I would think there is a higher demand for 68-69 grills  :Twocents:
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: BIGBLCK11 on April 01, 2011, 07:39:46 AM
Although, I can't help the lack of others good judgement :D,  I would also say the popularity and demand would be: 69, 68, then 70.  Due to the 70's construction, it may not be feasible to make, depending on your process and setup cost.  It can be hard to find any of them in really good shape and not pay an arm and a leg.  So, if the quality and price point are there, you will have buyers.
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: Mike DC on April 02, 2011, 06:38:14 PM
I agree.  There is demand for a reasonably-priced set of these grilles but they seem to be a pretty expensive item to reproduce correctly.  I think the 1969 grille would turn a net profit within a couple years if not immediately, but I don't know if the economics of doing the 1970 grille are good enough. 
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: 471_Magnum on April 02, 2011, 07:55:00 PM
I haven't read this whole thread, so forgive me if this has already been stated.

Unless it is injected molded from automotive grade ABS, don't waste our time.

I've spend most of my career engineering and building OEM automotive exterior trim parts. I've also commissioned my fair share of prototypes. I had about 15 years in the business before I finally got fed up with the automotive industry and moved on to better things. I digress... Point being, I'm speaking from experience here.

The poured resin parts can be made to look very nice (initially) but they have terrible dimensional stability. Subject it to any temperature extreme, and it will warp, creep and deteriorate. Stereolythography has similar issues. The stuff is great for one-off show cars that lead pampered lives, but there is no place for it in the real world.

Best bet for achieving near OEM product quality and durability in a limited production run would be to use an aluminum mold. It would be good for better than 1000 shots. One could probably be built for less than the $100K mentioned, but the engineering costs could drive that cost up quickly. I've never taken the time to really look at the complexity of the part, but the technology and techniques used to build the original tooling wasn't half as good as what we use to build prototypes these days.

Before you try to sell the first cast piece, thermocycle it a few times switching it from a sub-zero deep freeze to a 125 F oven and see how it looks afterwords.
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bull on April 02, 2011, 08:07:05 PM
Quote from: 471_Magnum on April 02, 2011, 07:55:00 PM
I haven't read this whole thread, so forgive me if this has already been stated.

Unless it is injected molded from automotive grade ABS, don't waste our time.

Read all of page one and you'll see that he says he'll be using a casting method, and then after that a few of us say basically the same thing you said in your second sentence above. I believe this new casting process will be using 50% more snake oil than the last one so it may just work.
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bobfist on April 03, 2011, 02:37:58 AM
HI, i understand your consern about our method.
I was thinking the same before we met the company and i changed my mind after seeing and tested their earlier products.

Bob
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: TexasStroker on April 03, 2011, 03:01:35 AM
I can't wait to see how everything turns out...Guess you are just about a month out now!  Having a quaity grille replacement on the market would let me go ahead with ironing out the rest of the front end; something I have wanted to for a LONG time  :yesnod:
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: 440 on April 03, 2011, 09:36:18 AM
I agree with the whole 69 grill as well... I'd buy the outers if made available.... 42 years isn't kind to any plastic trim
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: jam2329 on April 03, 2011, 10:32:23 PM
i cant wait till this is ready i need a 69 grille
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: montana bird on April 04, 2011, 08:40:09 AM
A 68 charger Grill would have me hooked. :icon_smile_big:
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: chargerhunter on April 11, 2011, 08:29:32 AM
I bought one of the Premier grilles and it cracked taking it out of the box! I have to use it because I have nothing else but I can see bugs hitting it and cracking it. Can't wait to see your product.
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bobfist on April 11, 2011, 03:10:14 PM
Our ones wont crack , we tried to brake one ending up like a screw :)

Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: FLG on April 11, 2011, 03:47:54 PM
How about heat/cold cycles? How does it hold up when things get hot/cold?
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: Brock Lee on April 11, 2011, 05:44:00 PM
Quote from: bobfist on April 11, 2011, 03:10:14 PM
Our ones wont crack , we tried to brake one ending up like a screw :)



Can we see that test piece?
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bull on April 11, 2011, 05:46:40 PM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_2K5UZtkkDyo/SRcXmpTqioI/AAAAAAAAAXU/_N9wtoLee4c/s400/unicorn.jpg)
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: FLG on April 11, 2011, 05:51:25 PM
Come on bull, at least give them a fair shot before you say were chasing unicorns.
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bull on April 12, 2011, 12:37:15 AM
Quote from: FLG on April 11, 2011, 05:51:25 PM
Come on bull, at least give them a fair shot before you say were chasing unicorns.

Well, he said the prototype was almost done, two months ago... :shruggy:
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: stripedelete on April 12, 2011, 09:27:11 AM
Quote from: bull on April 12, 2011, 12:37:15 AM
Quote from: FLG on April 11, 2011, 05:51:25 PM
Come on bull, at least give them a fair shot before you say were chasing unicorns.

Well, he said the prototype was almost done, two months ago... :shruggy:

Tough not to be skeptical, but, I'll giv'em the benefit of the doubt. 

I think "prototype" was used to describe the existing piece to be used for the mold/process.  (It was translation thing)
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bobfist on April 12, 2011, 01:06:14 PM
Hi!
Yes thats right sorry for the misunderstanding guys.
The 2 May are the date for the production, the other date was the prototype part.

Sorry 
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: Brock Lee on April 13, 2011, 10:38:46 PM
May we see the prototype?
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: BIGBLCK11 on April 13, 2011, 11:34:45 PM
Quote from: Brock Lee on April 13, 2011, 10:38:46 PM
May we see the prototype?

There is no prototype, see below.  He was in the process of repairing an orig. grille, to use as his "model", to make the mold from.


Quote from: stripedelete on April 12, 2011, 09:27:11 AM
I think "prototype" was used to describe the existing piece to be used for the mold/process.  (It was translation thing)

Quote from: bobfist on April 12, 2011, 01:06:14 PM
Hi!
Yes thats right sorry for the misunderstanding guys.
The 2 May are the date for the production, the other date was the prototype part.

Sorry  
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: Brock Lee on April 14, 2011, 04:06:54 AM
Quote from: BIGBLCK11 on April 13, 2011, 11:34:45 PM

There is no prototype, see below.  He was in the process of repairing an orig. grille, to use as his "model", to make the mold from.



So what was this?

Quote from: bobfist on April 11, 2011, 03:10:14 PM
Our ones wont crack , we tried to brake one ending up like a screw :)



Sounds like more than a repaired grille was made to me. You can fix an old one all you want and not get that kind of flex out of it.
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: stripedelete on April 14, 2011, 07:39:23 AM
Quote from: Brock Lee on April 14, 2011, 04:06:54 AM
Quote from: BIGBLCK11 on April 13, 2011, 11:34:45 PM

There is no prototype, see below.  He was in the process of repairing an orig. grille, to use as his "model", to make the mold from.



So what was this?

Quote from: bobfist on April 11, 2011, 03:10:14 PM

:shruggy:
Our ones wont crack , we tried to brake one ending up like a screw :)



Sounds like more than a repaired grille was made to me. You can fix an old one all you want and not get that kind of flex out of it.

Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: BIGBLCK11 on April 14, 2011, 03:18:31 PM
 :shruggy: Yeah, you got me on that?  bobfist would have to answer.  I thought it was more in regards to the lost in translation.

On another note, I too will hold all judgement until the final product is revealed.  But, wouldn't it be wise to use a NOS or perfect (non-repaired) piece to start the process off with, considering the cost to make this happen?  If that is indeed how it is made.  Not trying to shed any negativity on this, I don't need this part.  I hope he is successful in producing a top-notch part for anyone who does.
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: jam2329 on April 17, 2011, 08:26:17 AM
Quote from: BIGBLCK11 on April 14, 2011, 03:18:31 PM
:shruggy: Yeah, you got me on that?  bobfist would have to answer.  I thought it was more in regards to the lost in translation.

On another note, I too will hold all judgement until the final product is revealed.  But, wouldn't it be wise to use a NOS or perfect (non-repaired) piece to start the process off with, considering the cost to make this happen?  If that is indeed how it is made.  Not trying to shed any negativity on this, I don't need this part.  I hope he is successful in producing a top-notch part for anyone who does.


i hope so too cause i need this part
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: TexasStroker on April 29, 2011, 11:40:26 AM
Is this still slated for Monday, May 2nd?  That is right around the corner...next working day in fact.  Definitely keep us updated  :2thumbs:

If this lines up I could potentially replace the grille as I finally tackle the front valance etc.
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bobfist on April 29, 2011, 02:57:18 PM
Yes next week we hope to show you the piece!

Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: tan top on April 29, 2011, 03:38:33 PM
Quote from: bobfist on April 29, 2011, 02:57:18 PM
Yes next week we hope to show you the piece!



cool  :popcrn:
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: 440 on April 29, 2011, 08:49:12 PM
Is it next week yet ?  :boogie:
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: ac_knight on May 01, 2011, 01:38:28 PM
I sure think so  :2thumbs: :popcrn:
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bobfist on May 02, 2011, 06:48:47 AM
Hi all. The product are in process now But we have to keep process under secrecy.
Just hang in there.
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: TexasStroker on May 02, 2011, 10:16:43 AM
Looking forward to seeing the end product.
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: resq302 on May 02, 2011, 10:34:28 AM
Quote from: bobfist on May 02, 2011, 06:48:47 AM
Hi all. The product are in process now But we have to keep process under secrecy.
Just hang in there.


Why is it a big secret?
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bobfist on May 02, 2011, 12:09:08 PM
The whole processing progress, its the factory policy
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: Roger 68 charger on May 02, 2011, 12:36:43 PM
wait for it...  wait for it...  wait for it...  I know I have heard that before somewhere..      Oh ya thats what they are

telling me about the transmission I ordered back in Nov.!   :brickwall:
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bobfist on May 02, 2011, 12:48:38 PM
Im sure that you wont be dissapointed
thats nothing i can do than listen to the factory
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: BY RSCO on May 08, 2011, 12:21:54 AM
 :popcrn:
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: 440 on May 08, 2011, 02:40:04 AM
Any idea on estimated price ?
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: jam2329 on May 09, 2011, 07:51:04 AM
may fifth any news
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: doctor4766 on May 09, 2011, 09:09:03 AM
May nineth here, still no news
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bobfist on May 09, 2011, 02:54:03 PM
Hi!
Got a mail from the factory and hopefully some process pictures late this week.
We have some personal problems that we have to deal with in first place.

Tony
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: TexasStroker on May 10, 2011, 02:07:39 PM
Still looking forward to seeing this...I'm hoping good things come to those who wait.
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bobfist on May 10, 2011, 03:24:22 PM
Yes i hope so.
Terrible news today again, third case of cancer in a year.
We have to focus and go to war against it again!
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: daveco on May 13, 2011, 12:49:50 AM
Wow, sorry to hear about the cancer. By all means, slay that dragon first! Until then, nothing else matters.
We are all pulling for you :2thumbs:
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: freddyd02 on May 14, 2011, 10:29:15 PM
That sucks, hope you beat it!  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: TexasStroker on May 15, 2011, 01:41:13 AM
Quote from: freddyd02 on May 14, 2011, 10:29:15 PM
That sucks, hope you beat it!  :2thumbs:
x2!
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: tan top on May 15, 2011, 02:57:13 AM
Quote from: TexasStroker on May 15, 2011, 01:41:13 AM
Quote from: freddyd02 on May 14, 2011, 10:29:15 PM
That sucks, hope you beat it!  :2thumbs:
x2!

:yesnod:   hope every thing goes ok
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: NorwayCharger on May 15, 2011, 08:01:36 AM
Quote from: tan top on May 15, 2011, 02:57:13 AM
Quote from: TexasStroker on May 15, 2011, 01:41:13 AM
Quote from: freddyd02 on May 14, 2011, 10:29:15 PM
That sucks, hope you beat it!  :2thumbs:
x2!

:yesnod:   hope every thing goes ok

Best wishes from your neighbor country  ;)
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: vancamp on May 17, 2011, 04:33:23 AM
Quote from: tan top on May 15, 2011, 02:57:13 AM
Quote from: TexasStroker on May 15, 2011, 01:41:13 AM
Quote from: freddyd02 on May 14, 2011, 10:29:15 PM
That sucks, hope you beat it!  :2thumbs:
x2!

:yesnod:   hope every thing goes ok
X3 been there myself hope all goes your way.
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bobfist on June 10, 2011, 02:45:10 PM
Ok guys, some updates about the grilles!
Just talked to my coworker about the grille production.
We was hoping to show you the final product monday, but a little mistake on the factory delay it a few weeks.
A hope you have pation to wait.

Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: daveco on June 11, 2011, 02:31:53 AM
How is the cancer battle?
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bobfist on June 11, 2011, 04:01:12 AM
Hi , Thanks for asking.
Well, hes geting x-ray and ...i dont know what you call it "cell poison"?
And it seams to work. A little more tired than before But they was on it right away so
Im greatful.

The delay on the grille aint that Big of a problem if we compare to this.
Thanks.
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: daveco on June 11, 2011, 04:10:59 AM
Keep up the fight, you have all of our best wishes :2thumbs:
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: tan top on June 11, 2011, 04:37:29 AM
Quote from: daveco on June 11, 2011, 04:10:59 AM
Keep up the fight, you have all of our best wishes :2thumbs:

good to hear , fingers crossed  :yesnod:
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: jam2329 on August 03, 2011, 11:10:44 PM
any news yet tony
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: bobfist on August 04, 2011, 11:54:07 AM
hi thanks for asking, yes we had some x-ray pictures last week and the cell poison and everything worked well.
They say it began to get smaller
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: twodko on August 04, 2011, 12:05:57 PM
Amen!
Title: Re: New replica of the Charger 69 center plastic grille!
Post by: stripedelete on August 04, 2011, 12:07:48 PM
 :2thumbs: