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Title: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: hemi68charger on November 01, 2007, 03:50:11 PM
Not sure if it's old news, but a friend emailed me this site today...


Green j-code '69 C500 (http://www.barrett-jackson.com/application/search/carlist_Details.aspx?&In_LotNumber=1270.1)



(http://www.barrett-jackson.com/staging/carlist/items/Fullsize/Cars//61283/61283_Front_3-4.jpg)
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: 69_500 on November 01, 2007, 04:13:22 PM
That makes me want to go to BJ for the first time this coming year. I've heard conflicting stories on this car. I believe it to be the same F8 green HEMI 500 that Legendary Motors had up for sale about 2 maybe 3 years ago. The stories conflict on how many miles the car actually has. One source said the 1,800 or so is correct, the other said it is probably around 3,000. Either way still a very low mileage car. I think the confusion comes in the way of how many miles are on the car versus how many on the origional engine. As the origional engine was out of the car for many years.
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: Troy on November 01, 2007, 04:33:05 PM
I'm nearly positive that's the one from my area. I saw it at a show when I was still in college and the asking price then was $60k. I finally talked to the "restorer" this year and he lives about a half mile from my parents. He told me that the guy who had it died and it's been sold several times since then (including at least three times by Legendary). I have his number so I'll check it. If it's the same car it had 406 miles on the odometer when I saw it.

Troy
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: hemi68charger on November 01, 2007, 04:39:07 PM
Think it's the same C500 as I saw at Boerne a few years ago.. That one was supposedly the one from Legendary.....
I'll have to reference some of my pics...
Troy
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: 69_500 on November 01, 2007, 06:33:10 PM
I'd have to check but I know that I have the fender tag information wrote down here somewhere. If it is the same car as Legendary, I wonder if anyone has replaced the washer bottle yet? It had the wrong one in it when it as at Legendary.
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: 69_500 on November 01, 2007, 07:13:09 PM
Guess I should have looked at the link better. Its the same car. Definately, and I'm about 90% sure its the one that Troy is thinking of as well.

Story goes that a gentleman in OH bought the car, and had it restored and then sold it to a gentleman who works at legendary. They did some work on it when he had it, then he sold it back to the same gentleman in OH. Who then sold it to legendary Motors and they sold it. First time Legendary had the car it had 800 miles on it, the next time they got it back it had 1,200 on it. I have some paperwork from then when they were listing the car for sale. A horrible copy of the broadcast sheet that is so dark you can't even make out a single code.
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: hemi68charger on November 01, 2007, 08:11:55 PM
This is the one I saw at Boerne in '05...
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: moparchris on November 04, 2007, 10:41:40 PM
If any of you aero guys are going to B-J this year let me know.  As much as it gets my fanny raw, it is in my backyard and I would be happy to meet some of you guys.  I may just break out my hemi 500 and rip off a few smokey burnouts, just to show all the snobs what a hemi car is really for!!
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: hemi68charger on November 04, 2007, 10:58:21 PM
Quote from: moparchris on November 04, 2007, 10:41:40 PM
If any of you aero guys are going to B-J this year let me know.  As much as it gets my fanny raw, it is in my backyard and I would be happy to meet some of you guys.  I may just break out my hemi 500 and rip off a few smokey burnouts, just to show all the snobs what a hemi car is really for!!

:nana:  "Hey Mister, Does that thing have a Hemi?", as Chris says "Catch me if you can and find out !!"

:2thumbs:
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: learical1 on November 05, 2007, 09:23:43 AM
Quote from: moparchris on November 04, 2007, 10:41:40 PM
If any of you aero guys are going to B-J this year let me know.  As much as it gets my fanny raw, it is in my backyard and I would be happy to meet some of you guys.  I may just break out my hemi 500 and rip off a few smokey burnouts, just to show all the snobs what a hemi car is really for!!

alright, Chis, assuming I have money for tickets, I'll be there.  I'll bring the old photo album, and maybe a kid or two.
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: PocketThunder on November 05, 2007, 09:43:05 AM
I saved all the pictures of the Green 500 that was advertised at Legendary last time.
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: PocketThunder on November 05, 2007, 09:50:41 AM
I've got about 15 more if you want to see them.   :yesnod:
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: 69_500 on November 05, 2007, 07:16:05 PM
Hmmmm, like I said wasn't planning on going to BJ, but man the chance to see two HEMI 500's makes it tempting.

There are quite a few things that strike me on the green one that is for sale. Pedal dress up in the interior, and the washer bottle really stand out as items that aren't right. There are more, but those two are just blatently obvious even to a non mopar person.
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: pettybird on November 06, 2007, 02:58:28 AM
Quote from: 69_500 on November 05, 2007, 07:16:05 PM

Pedal dress up in the interior...really stand out as items that aren't right.


Why do you say that?  It wouldn't be the first car with it...It's just about the coolest $7 you could spend back then.



I'm really digging the F8/white stripe.  That's what the Daytona will have, with the black guts, too.  And as wrong as they are, 15" Magnum 500's look kick ass on the car. 
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: 69_500 on November 06, 2007, 04:09:36 PM
I mention the pedal dress up because it is one of the few things you can make out on the bad copy of the broadcast sheet for the car. I think the copy machine was messed up when they made a copy, because the white part of the sheet is semi grey, and the writing is very dark with many black patches where you can't read anything. Then again I guess not many will even pay that much attention to what is on the sheet, as long as it has one right?
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: hemigeno on November 07, 2007, 01:03:26 AM
Pedal Dress Up....

:scratchchin:

I thought that was only available through the A47 SE package - and for whatever reason '69 HemiChargers were not supposed to be available with the SE package.  If the B-cast sheet says J41, that'd be something interesting to check into a little more.  :scope:
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: 69_500 on November 07, 2007, 04:49:08 PM
It doesn't say it. NO J41 on that car. Like I said, its one of the few lines and boxes that I can make out on my horrible copy of the broadcast sheet for that car.
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: hemi68charger on November 07, 2007, 04:57:31 PM
Quote from: hemigeno on November 07, 2007, 01:03:26 AM
Pedal Dress Up....

:scratchchin:

I thought that was only available through the A47 SE package - and for whatever reason '69 HemiChargers were not supposed to be available with the SE package.  If the B-cast sheet says J41, that'd be something interesting to check into a little more.  :scope:

So, Geno, there were no Hemi R/T SE's in '69?.... I know never say never, but that was supposed to be the norm?
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: 69_500 on November 07, 2007, 05:00:21 PM
I talked to Gene, and Chris both about that. But I am pretty sure that you could not get the A47 package with the HEMI engine. I would say that its about 99.999% unlikely that any HEMI RT/SE Chargers were built for the 1969 model year. Because you would think that if there was one built someone somewhere would have seen it by now.
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: hemigeno on November 07, 2007, 05:18:33 PM
Quote from: hemi68charger on November 07, 2007, 04:57:31 PM
Quote from: hemigeno on November 07, 2007, 01:03:26 AM
Pedal Dress Up....

:scratchchin:

I thought that was only available through the A47 SE package - and for whatever reason '69 HemiChargers were not supposed to be available with the SE package.  If the B-cast sheet says J41, that'd be something interesting to check into a little more.  :scope:

So, Geno, there were no Hemi R/T SE's in '69?.... I know never say never, but that was supposed to be the norm?

Besides the fact that one has not surfaced yet, there are several places that make specific reference to the A47 package not being available with the Hemi in '69.  Here's one of them, taken from the 1969 Confidential Price Bulletin:
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: 69_500 on November 07, 2007, 05:24:10 PM
Ah papers can say what ever they want can't they?  :nana:

There is something in the Data book about it as well I do believe, and on a few other papers as well. Then again there are pages that say that you couldn't get a 500 with A/C, or with the SE package, but those pages are later corrected.
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: hemigeno on November 07, 2007, 05:27:11 PM
Quote from: 69_500 on November 07, 2007, 05:24:10 PM
Ah papers can say what ever they want can't they?  :nana:

Most definitely.  My grandfather had a saying I've remembered all these years - "It's durned poor paper that won't take ink."   :scratchchin:

Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: 69_500 on November 07, 2007, 05:34:10 PM
 :icon_smile_wink: I need to by an old type writer so that I can write up my own Factory paper work, so that there can be more paperwork that disagree's with each other.
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: hemigeno on November 07, 2007, 05:37:57 PM
Or getcha one of these and be in the Fender Tag business...   ;)
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: 69_500 on November 07, 2007, 05:39:33 PM
Not a bad idea.  :scratchchin: Hmmmm, where could I find one of those.  :scratchchin:
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: hemi68charger on November 07, 2007, 10:09:00 PM
Quote from: hemigeno on November 07, 2007, 05:37:57 PM
Or getcha one of these and be in the Fender Tag business...   ;)

Geno, don't tell me you have one of those sitting in your garage.......
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: pettybird on November 07, 2007, 11:02:03 PM
a couple things--

Did they loosen restrictions on pedal dress up for '70?  My friend has it on his 'bird and it's on the window sticker, Bcast sheet, etc. 


WOW I want one of those fender tag machines!  I really, really want a fake tag for the Marty Robbins Daytona--FY1/FM3 paint, W1 interior/X9 UDF paint, A/C, etc.  Basically, I want a tag to screw with people ;)
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: moparstuart on November 08, 2007, 09:56:27 AM
that would be cool    problem is some one out there would abuse it

Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: 69_500 on November 08, 2007, 06:05:24 PM
I think that you can get a fake tag made up to your likings for the Robbins car through Data Tag. As far as I know you can request a tag made up in any configuration that you desire.


Side note, wasn't the pedal dress up with the A47 as well as with the white hat special offer? I can't seem to find my white hat advertisement, but I'm thinking it was standard on that package as well. Which would make sense that it might be possible to get it without either of those packages, but I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: fandango Jeff on December 28, 2007, 07:06:59 PM
I read some of the posts about this car and yes it is the Legendary car and I am babysitting this car at Barrett Jackson for the owner. I put mile number 1283 and 1284 on it last week. We have the titles with the mileage on them back to when it was 403. I know some people question the mileage, but everything we have says it is correct. My friend bought it in 2004 from Legendary. It is probably the nicest Charger I have ever seen, even though it is not perfect. It has been repainted and has new interior, because it sat in front of a picture window at an old dealership for years and the sun bleached it out. The car also has headers from it's drag racing days. We just put 5 new red line radials on it this week and it looks bitchin. It is also a stripe delete car, but they put one on anyway. The numbers on the trans and block match the VIN and I have pictures to show both. Anyone goin to Barrett, stop by and say hello. The car is Lot 1270.1 and should be on TV Saturday about 4 or 5 central time.
Fandango JEFF
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: daytonalo on December 28, 2007, 07:23:00 PM
Super nice car !!! Steam roller look , AWESOME !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: tan top on December 28, 2007, 07:39:19 PM
 :drool5: real awesome C500 , remember reading about that in a mopar mag a few years ago  ,  :yesnod: 
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: fandango Jeff on December 28, 2007, 08:11:23 PM
Yep...Mopar Action June 2003
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: UFO on December 28, 2007, 09:04:34 PM
Pedal trim may have been added for the same reason I added it to my own car.It's breaks up all the black down there.
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: fandango Jeff on December 29, 2007, 04:06:08 PM
Here is a picture as of today with the redlines.
JEFF
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: daytonalo on December 29, 2007, 04:16:51 PM
Looks like grandpops car now !!!
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: Ghoste on December 29, 2007, 04:23:59 PM
Your grandpop drives a cooler car than mine.
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: 69_500 on December 29, 2007, 04:33:15 PM
Love the redlines on it. Grandpa or not, its an awsome car. Well okay so I'll admit I don't much care for Green, or at least its not my choice of colors. But its still a HEMI 500, whats not to like right?
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: moparchris on January 02, 2008, 10:00:54 PM
My brother told me that another hemi C500 is going across the block at Barrett this year.  A T5 hemi 4 speed car.  I'm thinking it was the car that was up in Washington state about 2-3 years ago, was redone and ended up on e-bay at a dealers lot in Wisconsin about 9 mos to a year ago.  I will try to get vin tag info on the cars when I go.
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: fandango Jeff on January 02, 2008, 10:07:28 PM
Thats right Lot 1025 on Friday.
JEFF
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: 69_500 on January 03, 2008, 04:33:23 PM
If its the one that was in Washington its 210731 no need to look it up I have that one memorized.


Go ahead and  :slap: me for wasting brain cells but its what I like.
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: FJMG on January 03, 2008, 05:33:10 PM
 I wonder if the T5 hemi 4-spd daytona will be back again. It did not meet a reserve of 500,000 at an auction a few months ago, "only" hit 420,000.
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: 69_500 on January 03, 2008, 05:47:03 PM
Is that the same T5 bronze 4 speed car that has a buddy seat and white interior?
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: FJMG on January 03, 2008, 05:52:19 PM
  I'm pretty sure it is the one. I assumed it was the thiensville car. I thought there was only two T5 hemi 4-spds found so far, the white gut and tim's tan int.
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: 69_500 on January 04, 2008, 04:13:29 PM
I actually have 2 HEMI 500's listed as being T5 bronze, 4 speed cars but one is black interior, the other is a T3 saddle tan interior.
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: FJMG on January 04, 2008, 11:02:39 PM
    Do you have any T5 hemi-autos recorded?
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: xs29j8Bullitt on January 05, 2008, 06:30:00 AM
Quote from: FJMG on January 03, 2008, 05:52:19 PM
  I'm pretty sure it is the one. I assumed it was the thiensville car. I thought there was only two T5 hemi 4-spds found so far, the white gut and tim's tan int.

Here is the original broadcast sheet for a T5 Hemi 500 4 Spd car with black interior.  It was found in my B5 440 4 Spd car...

XS
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: 69_500 on January 05, 2008, 11:34:22 AM
Have 3 T5 bronze HEMI AT's listed as well. However oddly enough all 3 of them have T3 saddle interior. I went back through the list and came up with 1 more T5 HEMI 4 speed car too, it has T3 Saddle interior as well.

So of HEMI T5 bronze cars it breaks down as

1 4 speed with black interior
2 4 speed with Tan interior
3 AT with Tan interior.
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: BigBlockSam on January 05, 2008, 12:04:43 PM
 :popcrn:
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: 69_500 on January 05, 2008, 01:02:08 PM
There is 10 times as much  :popcrn: going on as there are  :cheers:. You would think that ratio would be more like 1 to 1, as you need something to wash all that popcorn down with.
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: fandango Jeff on January 05, 2008, 04:00:53 PM
This may seem like a dumb question, but my '66 Charger has a different spare mount than this 69. Does the spare mount with the outside of the wheel up or the inside of the wheel up. In other words Red Line showing or down???
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: Ghoste on January 05, 2008, 04:10:25 PM
I'd have to go alllllllll the way out to my garage and check and I'm much to lazy at the moment, but I'm pretty sure my 67 has the spare oriented so that the redline faces down.  I will go out and check later though Jeff.
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: fandango Jeff on January 05, 2008, 04:13:46 PM
Sorry about that, but I need to know for the '69......
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: bzabodyn on January 05, 2008, 07:07:35 PM
Quote from: FJMG on January 03, 2008, 05:33:10 PM
I wonder if the T5 hemi 4-spd daytona will be back again. It did not meet a reserve of 500,000 at an auction a few months ago, "only" hit 420,000.

I think I saw it scheduled to be auctioned at the Mecum auction at the end of the month - the seller obviously doesn't trust a no-reserve scenario...

BZ
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: BigBlockSam on January 05, 2008, 07:13:54 PM
 :cheers:
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: FJMG on January 06, 2008, 12:08:05 AM
  Just out of curiousity 69 500, do you have a breakdown on T5 hemi-daytonas?
Quote from: bzabodyn on January 05, 2008, 07:07:35 PM
I think I saw it scheduled to be auctioned at the Mecum auction at the end of the month
BZ

   Isn't that who bought the car along with a bird at BJ last year?
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: 69_500 on January 06, 2008, 12:16:36 PM
I would have to do some digging to see what the break down on T5 HEMI Daytona's would be. Thats a seperate file, and I can't remember what I titled it. When Gene gets back he could probably come up with that faster than I can.

I was under the impression that the same gentleman who took the HEMI Daytona and HEMI Superbird to BJ last year went home with them. In other words no reserve or not, he bought his own cars back.
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: moparchris on January 06, 2008, 09:59:32 PM
I hope this thread isn't getting to confusing.  We started off with the f8 500, then I mentioned the t5 500 now a t5 Daytona has been brought up!! Yikes.  Here's what I know about the wing cars.  The t5 Daytona and the b5 hemi "Bird were brought to B-J last year by the same gentleman who has has the worlds largest collection of hemi 'cuda convert's.  Both cars were sold as a package deal for $420,000 to Mr. Mechum of the Mechum auto auctions.  The owner had a shill bidder set up to "protect" his cars but the shill bidder did not follow through, thus both cars selling for the $420,000 total.
I believe the t5 hemi 500 that is going to be at B-J is the black interior 4 speed car that 69 500 has the vin info for.
Does any of this help?
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: bzabodyn on January 07, 2008, 04:31:46 PM
OT - I thought the two HEMI wingcars sold for $750K at BJ last year? (Life on the Block - "Double Trouble")

And Bill Wiemann has the largest collection of HEMI cuda convertibles, iirc - so I'm guessing he was the seller?

BZ
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: 69_500 on January 07, 2008, 04:47:05 PM
Are you guys sure that Bill Weihman has a larger collection of HEMI E body convertibles than the Blakes'? Either way yes Bill was the one who was selling the cars last year at the auction.
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: hemigeno on January 07, 2008, 06:06:49 PM
I'll comment on a couple of things, with my apologies to moparchris for continuing the multiple thread hijacks  :P

Quote from: bzabodyn on January 07, 2008, 04:31:46 PM
OT - I thought the two HEMI wingcars sold for $750K at BJ last year?

:iagree:

The Barrett-Jackson website still lists the selling price at $375k, which was 1/2 of the gavel price of $750k for the HemiDaytona & HemiBird combo IIRC.


Quote from: 69_500 on January 06, 2008, 12:16:36 PM
I would have to do some digging to see what the break down on T5 HEMI Daytona's would be. Thats a seperate file, and I can't remember what I titled it. When Gene gets back he could probably come up with that faster than I can.

The breakdown I have on T5 HemiDaytonas is still only two (one auto & 1 four speed) with the 4-speed being the former Cal Anderson car which went through Barrett Jackson last year and was mentioned above (white interior).  Along a related note, I have Tim Wellborn's HemiDaytona logged as a T3 car.  Is that correct?

Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: Aero426 on January 08, 2008, 10:57:58 AM
Quote from: 69_500 on January 07, 2008, 04:47:05 PM
Are you guys sure that Bill Weihman has a larger collection of HEMI E body convertibles than the Blakes'? Either way yes Bill was the one who was selling the cars last year at the auction.

Bill sold the two Hemi wing cars at B-J 2007.

Geno, Tim's Daytona is not T5.  I think you are correct. 
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: moparstuart on January 08, 2008, 03:15:13 PM
750k sound like a far price in this market  for two cars
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: fandango Jeff on January 08, 2008, 08:01:11 PM
I think we would be happy with $375 K for the F8...
JEFF :nana:
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: 69_500 on January 09, 2008, 05:42:41 PM
Not to burst anyone's bubble, but there is no way that HEMI 500 is going to bring $375K. Sorry it just isn't going to happen.
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: moparstuart on January 09, 2008, 05:47:59 PM
 I was talking about the wing cars not the 500
I dont think a 500 has sold for more than 150k has it  ??????????
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: 69_500 on January 09, 2008, 05:56:02 PM
Well lets say that there was a HEMI 500 that didn't sell and it was bid up over that $150K that you posted. There was a project HEMI 4 speed car that sold for $120K last spring. Which I said at the time was stupid.

There have a been a few HEMI 500's in the past year between $150-200K range. Of those I'd say that only 1 of them was a REALLY NICE car. The others had some flaws, but everything can be fixed right?
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: fandango Jeff on January 09, 2008, 08:43:42 PM
I just said it would be OK if it brought that much, but that is not my number. I think it might do 250K if the right  2 guys are in the game......
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: Ghoste on January 10, 2008, 06:03:22 AM
I do know a little bit about one of the highest selling price 500's and the price it sold for isn't exactly the price it sold for.  Danny knows which car and why.
It's all a giant fun filled shell game for folks with big wallets. :cheers:
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: moparstuart on January 10, 2008, 09:34:13 AM
Quote from: fandango Jeff on January 09, 2008, 08:43:42 PM
I just said it would be OK if it brought that much, but that is not my number. I think it might do 250K if the right  2 guys are in the game......
thats a nice number but i doubt it gets anywhere near that price 150 or a little more , is more realistic .
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: 69_500 on January 10, 2008, 08:11:18 PM
I realize you weren't claiming it would bring that kind of a figure, more or less just saying that if it did you'd definately be happy with that. I get that part.

As far as the thinking of $250K if the right 2 people show up, that one is possible, but in my opinion isn't likely either. I'm with the thinking of $150-175K. Maybe even as high as $190K if the right people show up. Just because I haven't seen any crazy numbers lately on 500's or Daytona's or Superbirds. Now if you asked me the same question about the same car last year, or 2 years ago it would have been a different story.
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: fandango Jeff on January 10, 2008, 08:39:00 PM
If anything drives the price up (besides two crazies in the room) it will be the story and the low mileage. I am just hoping the seler is happy when they roll it off. He is a great guy and loves old Mopars. Maybe next year he will let me babysit his TA. Gonna be fun no matter what happens.
JEFF
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: 69_500 on January 10, 2008, 08:48:32 PM
Have you guys tried recently to contact Legendary about the broadcast sheet? I went back through my photos' of the car and there is a definate broadcast sheet to that car that was there at the time they had it. The photo I have shows the sheet, and I have a horrible photocopy of it as well. However either the toner was low, or the xerox machine was messed up as it is too dark to read hardly any of  the sheet other than the top lines with the VIN, SON, and engine and trans codes.
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: fandango Jeff on January 10, 2008, 08:52:35 PM
According to Legandary, they never advertised the car with a sheet and don't think they had one when they sold it to Mr. Davis. They did search the file and no sheet. The same salesman is still there and remembered the car and the circumstances, so thats the end of that as far as our deal . Maybe the new owner can find it.
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: fandango Jeff on January 10, 2008, 08:54:08 PM
Can you send a scan to me of the photo or the bad copy you have???
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: Ghoste on January 10, 2008, 09:30:12 PM
Legendary isn't a fly by night shop so it seems a little strange that they would lose or even forget they had it in the first place.  Something strange about that to me.
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: fandango Jeff on January 10, 2008, 09:56:31 PM
I think they sold it twice, so maybe it got lost in the shuffle......
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: 69_500 on January 10, 2008, 10:14:47 PM
Your correct they did have the car 2 seperate times. I will go back and dig up the folder that I have on the car. It includes a magazine article about the car as well if I remember correctly. I think the first time Legendary had the car it had around 500-700 miles on the car. Then when the got it back the second time it had approximately 400 more miles on the car.

I talked to them both times they had the car.
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: fandango Jeff on January 13, 2008, 10:07:07 PM
Well, the car made it to Barrett...now all we have to do is sell it..
JEFF
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: hemigeno on January 14, 2008, 02:44:01 PM
Glad the car made it there alright, and hopefully I can watch a few hours of the coverage over the weekend (probably during the never-ending stream of BB Corvettes).  I'm just curious, but did the auction contract with B-J require "No Reserve" terms yet again?

It seems like sooner or later the lustre will wear off of B-J's star and they'll have to start acting like a regular auction house again in order to get the primo cars.

:scratchchin:
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: moparstuart on January 14, 2008, 02:57:17 PM
Quote from: hemigeno on January 14, 2008, 02:44:01 PM
Glad the car made it there alright, and hopefully I can watch a few hours of the coverage over the weekend (probably during the never-ending stream of BB Corvettes).  I'm just curious, but did the auction contract with B-J require "No Reserve" terms yet again?

It seems like sooner or later the lustre will wear off of B-J's star and they'll have to start acting like a regular auction house again in order to get the primo cars.

:scratchchin:
I was thinking that also, several people lost there asses last year. The pink and green cuda's sold as a pair,  sold for what just one of them was bought for / worth !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: fandango Jeff on January 14, 2008, 04:24:54 PM
Yes, NO RESERVE....The owner is an old wildcatter, so he will take his chances...
JEFF
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: bzabodyn on January 14, 2008, 05:13:35 PM
Well, I can tell you that it definitely doesn't help its cause that there is another C500 HEMI there... always nice to be the only one of your kind at an auction like this..

BUT, what it does have going for it is that it is going after the other C500 on the dockett... so I guess we'll see...

I think because of the mileage/history, it deserves $200K, but I doubt it gets it (unless the other one goes for $175K+, then it definitely will)...

BZ
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: fandango Jeff on January 14, 2008, 07:21:58 PM
At least the other one is a Friday car.
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: 69_500 on January 14, 2008, 07:24:47 PM
Well the other HEMI 500 that is up for auction has one plus going for it that the green one doesn't, its a 4 speed car. However the negative for the other HEMI 500 is that it is not a numbers matching car, as it has/had a 1967 HEMI block in it the last time I saw the car.

Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: moparstuart on January 15, 2008, 11:31:16 AM
Quote from: 69_500 on January 14, 2008, 07:24:47 PM
Well the other HEMI 500 that is up for auction has one plus going for it that the green one doesn't, its a 4 speed car. However the negative for the other HEMI 500 is that it is not a numbers matching car, as it has/had a 1967 HEMI block in it the last time I saw the car.


what color is the other one,  dark green is not the best color for this one !   
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: fandango Jeff on January 15, 2008, 12:33:12 PM
The other one is T-5 Copper. Green cars have been selling very high compared to a few years ago. They changed the lighting at Barrett and they look very good in that light. We will see. Leaving tomorrow.
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: 69_500 on January 15, 2008, 05:28:26 PM
Not really sure which one is a plus or a minus as far as color combination goes. F8 green vs. T5 bronze? Hmmmmmm, I call that one a toss up.
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: moparstuart on January 15, 2008, 05:29:25 PM
  yeah not much diff in popularity maybe a slight edge to the T5
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: 69_500 on January 15, 2008, 05:42:10 PM
10 years ago both cars would have been painted black or red to go to an auction house, even though they aren't supposed to be those colors.
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: MsMopar on January 16, 2008, 09:18:00 PM
How do they know it was a stripe delete car?  :shruggy:  MsMopar
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: 69_500 on January 16, 2008, 10:05:00 PM
All of the 500's are coded V88 which is for stripe delete. I think that is what he is refering too.
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: MsMopar on January 17, 2008, 04:56:50 PM
I figured he knew that. Just wondering if he had any witnesses to whether it had the stripe at the dealership when it was new or not. I still wonder if any C-500's were truely stripe delete other than mine (disregarding the code). MsMopar
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: moparchris on January 17, 2008, 07:20:00 PM
Ms. Mopar, I believe my 500 was a true stripe delete car.  Pictures I have of it with the original paint show it with no stripe.  The pictures are from the second owners here in Phx.
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: MsMopar on January 17, 2008, 10:09:19 PM
Cool. Did it have 500 numbers even though there was no stripe, or was there nothing on the sides? MsMopar
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: learical1 on January 18, 2008, 07:48:46 AM
Quote from: moparchris on January 17, 2008, 07:20:00 PM
Ms. Mopar, I believe my 500 was a true stripe delete car.  Pictures I have of it with the original paint show it with no stripe.  The pictures are from the second owners here in Phx.

True, it had no stripe when my brother and I had it.  I'm not 100% sure that the previous owner (Dennis Storm?) was the original purchaser. 
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: moparchris on January 18, 2008, 01:12:21 PM
Bruce,
I think Dennis Storm was the original owner.  My buddy that I bought the car from spoke to Dennis who still lived in the same house in Glendale told him he bought it new.  Of course as soon as I tried to get a hold of Dennis he apparently moved after 35 years and I can't track him down to see if he has any pictures or stories to share :'(
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: learical1 on January 18, 2008, 01:48:40 PM
Quote from: moparchris on January 18, 2008, 01:12:21 PM
Bruce,
I think Dennis Storm was the original owner.  My buddy that I bought the car from spoke to Dennis who still lived in the same house in Glendale told him he bought it new.  Of course as soon as I tried to get a hold of Dennis he apparently moved after 35 years and I can't track him down to see if he has any pictures or stories to share :'(

At least I share my photos.   :yesnod:
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: 69_500 on January 18, 2008, 04:40:17 PM
MsMopar, did you ever come accross any older photo's of your car that show it not having the stripe on it? I know we talked about the stripe a few years back at the Mopar Nationals, but haven't really heard much from you since then.
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: 69_500 on January 18, 2008, 10:20:24 PM
So how worried is the owner of the F8 car now that the T5 car went for $110K? The lower cost on the T5 one is due to the non numbers engine if you ask me, and its not as detailed as the F8 car. However it does have the plus side of being a 4 speed car though. If the price is reflective to the future price of the F8 car  then it looks like it will be around the $140-160K range. Probably on the low side. There isn't nearly the following for the 500's as the Daytona or Superbird. Which is obvious when a 4bbl Superbird sold for more than a HEMI 4 speed 500. Although that 4 bbl Bird was very nice looking. Wish they would do more detail shots during the auction though.
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: MsMopar on January 19, 2008, 01:01:43 PM
I have a photo of my car taken one year after it was bought in the nude (Bare metal). Apparently, there was issues around the back window so the original owner had the dealership repaint it. He didn't like the repaint so he had it redone within the first year. That is why I wonder if the stripe was removed at the dealership or if it came to the dealership without it.  :shruggy:.

I figured the Bronze 500 would not pull that much,  just because 500's are rare but not that popular. I am anxious to see the F8 car results but I expect it will be lower than the numbers we were seeing a year ago. Wish I knew what time it will be on. Watching all those Chevys is boring.
:eek2: MsMopar
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: 69_500 on January 19, 2008, 03:03:09 PM
I agree, I am taping the whole thing. I watched all 10 hours of yesterdays auction in about 45 minutes. If you fastforward past all those Corvette's and Camaro's, and only watch the good cars it doesn't take that long at all.
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: Ghoste on January 19, 2008, 03:51:07 PM
Quote from: 69_500 on January 19, 2008, 03:03:09 PM
I If you fastforward past all those Corvette's and Camaro's, and only watch the good cars it doesn't take that long at all.

:lol:  Not unlike many car shows.
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: 69_500 on January 19, 2008, 04:34:40 PM
Hey was that yet another  :poke: at me? Yeah Yeah Yeah, I know I don't look at a whole lot of cars even if its a large show.

Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: Ghoste on January 19, 2008, 06:29:51 PM
Nope, not at all, if it was a poke at anyone it was myself.  I have several friends in town who own awesome Corvettes and Camaros and even though I'll stand and talk with them about their kids when we do one of our cruise nights, I couldn't tell you squat about their cars except that other Chevy fans are nuts about them.  I never see them checking out my ride either so an interest in cars is sometimes the only common ground I guess.  :shruggy:
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: 69_500 on January 19, 2008, 08:57:41 PM
So how much dissapointment was there when the F8 car went for $165K tonight? That is right around the ball park figure I was thinking, I was thinking it might go as high as $190K with the right 2 bidders, but with only a few interested buyers $165K-175K seemed the right figure to me. I know that  I said last night between $140-160K, so not off by too much.
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: Ghoste on January 19, 2008, 09:01:18 PM
It's a long way from 250k but it's still 6 figures so he should be happy.
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: 69_500 on January 19, 2008, 09:32:32 PM
That is about $50K less than they were asking for the car the last time it was for sale at Legendary. So I'm assuming that that seller took a hit on the car.
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: moparstuart on January 20, 2008, 10:15:22 AM
Quote from: 69_500 on January 19, 2008, 09:32:32 PM
That is about $50K less than they were asking for the car the last time it was for sale at Legendary. So I'm assuming that that seller took a hit on the car.
the sad thing is if it was a hemi R/ T low miles it would have gone for more. !!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: Ghoste on January 20, 2008, 01:23:18 PM
I don't know Stuart.  Personally, I think it's just not a good time to be a seller in no reserve auction situations right now.  It might have went for more as a non aero car or it may not have.
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: fandango Jeff on January 20, 2008, 04:04:03 PM
Just back from Barrett. The owner of the F8 was OK with the price and made some on the car. Wanted it to go higher, but..................They sure don't promote the Mopars anymore. Gotta own a Shelby to get any air time.
JEFF
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: 69_500 on January 20, 2008, 05:36:33 PM
Well I think that they did ample time on the two 500's as far as TV time goes. The problem I had with the auction is the amount of CIRCUS TIME they spend on stupid celebrity cars. Especially the General Lee.
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: fandango Jeff on January 20, 2008, 05:56:02 PM
And the Jesse James crap..................
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: 69_500 on January 20, 2008, 06:02:48 PM
I have never understood why some cars only get 15 seconds on the block, while what I deem other unworthy cars get 12-20 minutes up there. There was a few very nice cars that just blew over the stage last night.
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: BigBlockSam on January 20, 2008, 06:09:23 PM
Quote  And the Jesse James crap..................

I liked seeing that monster garage crap and i wish i could of bought that truck trike.that thing was cool . Rene
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: moparstuart on January 20, 2008, 07:20:25 PM
Quote from: BigBlockSam on January 20, 2008, 06:09:23 PM
QuoteAnd the Jesse James crap..................

I liked seeing that monster garage crap and i wish i could of bought that truck trike.that thing was cool . Rene
yes that diesel bike is a trip , that would be like riding a rocket

Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: hctub on January 29, 2018, 09:28:14 PM
Yes I used to own this car.
Title: Re: Not sure if it's old news, Awesome F8 Hemi C500 @ Barrett-Jackson's
Post by: fandango Jeff on January 30, 2018, 09:19:25 AM
It has sold twice since I took it to Scottsdale once in Palm Beach $135K on then again in Scottsdale for $165K same as we got.