Was sorting through piles of newsletters .And saw this intersting picture of a superbird being mocked up at creative industries.As entitled and pictures by Dick Padovini..And you will notice its looks like a 69 RR by the door decal and the quarter panel lines.Not seeing the 70ish air scoop .As to the wheel covers ?..And see a to be used in the superbird turn signal lens on the floor bellow the clay nose on the checkered floor .I see also a pay phone on the wall behind the wing .Other car drawings on the wall and rolled up paper plans etc on the work bench .Just a step back in time to the place that made the wingcars a reality
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/Annie75414/100_1519.jpg)
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/Annie75414/mockup.jpg)
Now those are cool. No date when they were taken though huh?
Quote from: Ghoste on March 08, 2009, 12:02:54 PM
Now those are cool. No date when they were taken though huh?
Can't you see? 3/8/09. DUH!!! :icon_smile_big: :nana: Those are cool. That's cool to see it being mocked up on a 69.
Is it the nose on a '69 RR fender or early production '70 Coronet fenders? :shruggy:
They look to be 70 net fenders. There isn't the body line on them like the 69 runner has.
Quote from: C_stripes on March 08, 2009, 12:24:38 PM
They look to be 70 net fenders. There isn't the body line on them like the 69 runner has.
:misbehaving: :misbehaving:
I think the fenders are part of the clay portion, I wouldn't expect to see a body line added in this case.
Quote from: Ghoste on March 08, 2009, 12:32:40 PM
I think the fenders are part of the clay portion, I wouldn't expect to see a body line added in this case.
I would agree, but look at the shine difference. They look to be steel. Same with the hood about 1/3 way up.
that wing looks pretty funny to lol it's lower more straight up and down and has 4 supports
Scanner down used digital camera it was July 69 date that was cut off
intresting picture , never seen that before ! thanks for sharing :2thumbs:
Quote from: SuperCharger on March 08, 2009, 12:51:39 PM
that wing looks pretty funny to lol it's lower more straight up and down and has 4 supports
The two center supports could just be to hold the wing in place, like the two supports under the nosecone.
Cool picture nonetheless! Thanks for sharing.
I finally have the proof that I need. It's official. They did put a wing on a 69 Road Runner. :icon_smile_big:
Now I feel better about putting a Superbird wing on my 69 runner.
Don't worry, I saved the real Superbird wing for the clone.
Quote from: FastbackJon on March 08, 2009, 01:11:36 PM
Quote from: SuperCharger on March 08, 2009, 12:51:39 PM
that wing looks pretty funny to lol it's lower more straight up and down and has 4 supports
The two center supports could just be to hold the wing in place, like the two supports under the nosecone.
Cool picture nonetheless! Thanks for sharing.
hmm interesting. I was going to say the 2 center supports looked like 2x4's
Here is the story on the photos. From this picture, it looks like they were testing out both wing uprights... Daytona on the passenger side and Superbird on the driver side. I kinda like the look of a '69 Superbird.
http://wwnboa.org/claybird.htm
Justin
"CornDOg"
(http://wwnboa.org/claybirdjpgs/clay3.jpg)
Thanks for the other picture and the link.Justin :2thumbs: didnt know it was up on the site..Only saw it in the 06 newsletter .Cool you see nose cones up near the wall.And mock up appearing fender scoops.
hmm weird wonder why they wouldn't just send a plain jane satellite to them but I guess back in those days maybe the roadrunner was worth less on the dealer lot.
Photo's that are posted by Dave are ones that were taken or at least printed on July 7th 1969. There is a series of 24 photo's from that date if I remember correctly. The pictures were printed by Creative Industries on July 7th 1969 anyways.
I like this one of the series - I only have 5 - didn't know there were 24
It looks like the took a Daytona steel nose, and filled in the center grille, then built up the various sections with clay to match the Coronet fenders and hood.
(http://wwnboa.org/claybirdjpgs/clay4.jpg)
Any guesses to what the black hood is from up against the wall to the right of the last nose cone.??????'Kinda thought 69 Catalina??? And off to the right you can see headlight doors assemblys witn no lamps in them .If there are 6 of 24 mock up shots.where are the rest
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/Annie75414/Mysteryhood.jpg)
This hood has the trim at back pair of louvres body center line and similar design shape a large A with and turned on the ends on front corners.If it is a 69 Catalina hood why would it be there.
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/Annie75414/Q05375-69catalina.jpg)
Do you see all the Charger hoods stacked on the wall and what is that other hood off of a big pontiac. Jay.
I like how it's jammed up against the payphone at the back.
(http://wwnboa.org/claybirdjpgs/clay3.jpg)
Look at all those fluorescent fixtures on the ceiling.
I wonder.....Are they GE or Westinghouse lamps? :laugh:
Car appears to have had a vinyl roof.
Even the A pillar moulding looks clay at this point, it also looks to only be on one side too (at least in some of the pics).
Quote from: maxwellwedge on March 08, 2009, 07:07:43 PM
(http://wwnboa.org/claybirdjpgs/clay3.jpg)
Look at all those fluorescent fixtures on the ceiling.
I wonder.....Are they GE or Westinghouse lamps? :laugh:
Car appears to have had a vinyl roof.
looks like a put a window plug in it , wonder if the deck lid fit ? or was modified ?
oh sorry answered my own question went to the link and checked out the other picture
Quote from: nascarxx29 on March 08, 2009, 05:15:42 PM
Any guesses to what the black hood is from up against the wall to the right of the last nose cone.??????'Kinda thought 69 Catalina??? And off to the right you can see headlight doors assemblys witn no lamps in them .If there are 6 of 24 mock up shots.where are the rest
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/Annie75414/Mysteryhood.jpg)
This hood has the trim at back pair of louvres body center line and similar design shape a large A with and turned on the ends on front corners.If it is a 69 Catalina hood why would it be there.
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/Annie75414/Q05375-69catalina.jpg)
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It does look like a pontiac catalina hood againist the wall .The picture I found for reference shows a striking resemblence down to the lines.Wonder what creative was doing with it .They did lift off hoods and the Hurst 300 hoods But Pontiac ?????
The Grand Prix hood was pretty similar as well was it not?
Okay, who's going to step up and build the 69 Superbird? all of the other concepts/mockups have been done. Don't look at me. I have all of the parts, but my 69 is too nice to start putting a Superbird front end on. A wing is all that I'm adding to my car. This way I can repair and repaint the quarters in a long day and have it back to original. I'll save the good stuff for my 70 Satellite.
Quote from: hotrod98 on March 09, 2009, 11:33:19 AM
Okay, who's going to step up and build the 69 Superbird? all of the other concepts/mockups have been done. Don't look at me. I have all of the parts, but my 69 is too nice to start putting a Superbird front end on. A wing is all that I'm adding to my car. This way I can repair and repaint the quarters in a long day and have it back to original. I'll save the good stuff for my 70 Satellite.
not me , I have done the never made thing , ones enought for me . Wouldnt it be cool to have owned that one though.
All very cool pics......... Look at all those '69 Charger hoods leaning up against the wall...........
I knew someone who had a pontiac catalina conv .Thats why the hood reminded me of it
Quote from: hemi68charger on March 09, 2009, 12:38:11 PM
All very cool pics......... Look at all those '69 Charger hoods leaning up against the wall...........
yeah thats what i thought ...... :yesnod: were they from the daytona conversions :scratchchin:
Quote from: tan top on March 09, 2009, 03:27:26 PM
Quote from: hemi68charger on March 09, 2009, 12:38:11 PM
All very cool pics......... Look at all those '69 Charger hoods leaning up against the wall...........
yeah thats what i though ...... :yesnod: were they from the daytona conversions :scratchchin:
Yes those hoods would be from converted Daytonas. I was talking to a guy at the Keokuk IA racers reunion a couple years ago. He said that Ernie Derr got a whole bunch of those '69 front clip parts from Creative and ran them on his IMCA Charger. Ernie's last car was a new 1970 chassis, but he preferred the 1969 Charger front clip and bumper. Here's the car.
Quote from: DougSchellinger on March 09, 2009, 03:39:06 PM
Quote from: tan top on March 09, 2009, 03:27:26 PM
Quote from: hemi68charger on March 09, 2009, 12:38:11 PM
All very cool pics......... Look at all those '69 Charger hoods leaning up against the wall...........
yeah thats what i though ...... :yesnod: were they from the daytona conversions :scratchchin:
Yes those hoods would be from converted Daytonas. I was talking to a guy at the Keokuk IA racers reunion a couple years ago. He said that Ernie Derr got a whole bunch of those '69 front clip parts from Creative and ran them on his IMCA Charger. Ernie's last car was a new 1970 chassis, but he preferred the 1969 Charger front clip and bumper. Here's the car.
oh right thanks for the info Doug......remember reading about that car ... was it ever restored ..or is it still as it was when Ernie parked it ,
always wondered why i only saw one picture with a 70 front end & all the others i saw was 69 stuff
Ernie's car is still in as raced condition and I'm sure it will stay that way for the foreseeable future. I forget the exact reason why he preferred the '69 front clip, but I believe it had to do with weight.
Quote from: DougSchellinger on March 09, 2009, 04:47:10 PM
Ernie's car is still in as raced condition and I'm sure it will stay that way for the foreseeable future. I forget the exact reason why he preferred the '69 front clip, but I believe it had to do with weight.
that and he had a good supply of cheap replacement parts
Quote from: DougSchellinger on March 09, 2009, 04:47:10 PM
Ernie's car is still in as raced condition and I'm sure it will stay that way for the foreseeable future. I forget the exact reason why he preferred the '69 front clip, but I believe it had to do with weight.
weight hmmm could be 70 loop bumper has got to be heavier :scratchchin:
although would be great restored ...... don't think i would though ! such a time machine as it is .... although pretty beat up ...its history & once restored its gone for ever .
Quote from: hotrod98 on March 09, 2009, 11:33:19 AM
Okay, who's going to step up and build the 69 Superbird? all of the other concepts/mockups have been done.
:scratchchin: I
do have an opening coming up in about 130 years... :lol:
XS :D
:icon_smile_big:
That pontiac hood may be one of the 69 Hurst Grand prix hoods? did they convert it? I think only thing different on the hurst GPs was a hood tach?
Quote from: sunroofsuperbird on March 09, 2009, 07:57:54 PM
That pontiac hood may be one of the 69 Hurst Grand prix hoods? did they convert it? I think only thing different on the hurst GPs was a hood tach?
Nah - Hurst did their own conversions. Probably an employee's hood.
Quote from: DougSchellinger on March 09, 2009, 04:47:10 PM
Ernie's car is still in as raced condition and I'm sure it will stay that way for the foreseeable future.
Is that a "for sure" because I thought the deal when Ernie sold it was that it HAD to be restored to it's before raced look?
Quote from: Ghoste on March 10, 2009, 08:29:24 AM
Quote from: DougSchellinger on March 09, 2009, 04:47:10 PM
Ernie's car is still in as raced condition and I'm sure it will stay that way for the foreseeable future.
Is that a "for sure" because I thought the deal when Ernie sold it was that it HAD to be restored to it's before raced look?
Just the opposite. Ernie sold it on the condition it be left as it was raced.
the 69 RR used looks like it was a v21 car by lookin on the cowl :yesnod:
I wonder how they opened the hood...
I know this is a old thread but thanks for the link from the other thread. I haven't seen any of these pics before
Was looking for additional creative industries related photos.Concerning this other post.These are the only ones I found and seen to date
there must be pictures like that somewhere , its a wonder the any of the old creative employes have not been tracked down that worked on the aero chargers ! some of them might have taken privite pictures , as the cars were soo unusal ! , same as the old production line workers ! there have or been more interviews with them
WOW! just seeing these for the first time. I love these old pics! i also noticed the drawings on the wall, looks like a corvette with a triangle shaped shadow on the hood, the scketches below i can't quite make out but I'd sure like to see them better,.. I've saved the pics and will blow them up... the bottom sketch looks like a Can Am car with a mid-level wing like Ferrari GTO from '81 but with a strange cupped look to the front end. :shruggy:
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/Annie75414/100_1519.jpg)
the one pic looks like a concept challenger drawing I'll post here...
BTW: the mockup SB has twin rear view mirrors too, pretty unusual from what I remember of cars at the time.
I just noticed that it looks like it was a Daytona wing. Look at the pass side of the wing in the side profile shot. The wing also doesn't seem to be as tall as actual Bird wings.
Quote from: Aero426 on March 09, 2009, 03:39:06 PM
Quote from: tan top on March 09, 2009, 03:27:26 PM
Quote from: hemi68charger on March 09, 2009, 12:38:11 PM
All very cool pics......... Look at all those '69 Charger hoods leaning up against the wall...........
yeah thats what i though ...... :yesnod: were they from the daytona conversions :scratchchin:
Yes those hoods would be from converted Daytonas. I was talking to a guy at the Keokuk IA racers reunion a couple years ago. He said that Ernie Derr got a whole bunch of those '69 front clip parts from Creative and ran them on his IMCA Charger. Ernie's last car was a new 1970 chassis, but he preferred the 1969 Charger front clip and bumper. Here's the car.
I bought one of those hoods for my 69 Charger a month or so back after i hit a deer. Or at least thats where i was told the hood i bought came from. its in mint condition thats for sure!