Well, the color has been chosen and now I can't change it. Well, I could but I would have $600 invested in red basecoat. I decided to go with 2008 Dodge PR3 Torred. I wanted a more modern red but wanted to stay with a Chrysler color. The formula for this color has a small amount of large metallic in it, but I left it out. I don't want any metallic in a bright red. Looks too much like dust in the color. Hope to get color on the body in a couple of days. Due to the heat, I'll cut and buff the body before painting the other panels. That's the nice thing about solid colors. As long as you use the same base and the same number of coats and paint from the same batch, it will match. I never paint any more than I can realistically cut and buff in two days. I learned that hard lesson one hot summer and will never forget it.
I removed the windshield tonight and there's yet more proof that this was a real triple black car. The metal behind the glass was black and absolutely rust free. One more reason to feel guilty about changing the color on a real triple black R/T SE. The previous owner stopped by today and he's not really into this whole project. I think finding out that I was changing the color was not what he had expected.
Now I have to drop the engine out to paint the engine bay. One of my guys at the dealership just painted that engine bay a couple of years ago. Looked good too. Too bad I have to re-do it now.
More later.
Done yet?
Bryan
AWESOME! :drool5: I can't wait to see it in full paint :popcrn:
Nice booth. Car looks great.!!!!!! Impressive work.
Dane
When I left the dealership I had paint booth withdrawals. I never realized how much I depended on that booth until I no longer had access to it. When we built the new shop there was never any question about buying a booth. I'm anxious to finish the car and get those ugly 14" slotted rims off and put the new Magnum 500's on. The part that I love is bolting on all of the new stuff. I still haven't had time to install the new leather seat covers.
There's never been a daytona wing car around this part of the world so I should garner a little attention. Not that I need the attention. :icon_smile_big:
It was so difficult trying to decide on the color combo. I've mentioned many times that the heat here in the south has a lot to do with not wanting to go black. That and the fact that with a car this big, by the time you get the second side clean, the other side is already dirty.
A few years ago when I was surfing the net, I ran across a site that had a pic of one of Dane's cars that had been placed on a calender. I decided right then that I wanted to build a Daytona clone and it had to be red with a white wing/stripe. Well, I went through several color choices after that and up until a few weeks ago had decided to just go with black and live with the negatives. Then while going through the hundreds of Daytona pics that I have on my computer, I saw the pic of Mike (I think) driving the car that he had just bought from Dane. That clinched it. No other color combo affects me the way that the red/white combo does.
I know it's been done so many times, but there's a reason. It just looks good.
Here's the actual pic that made me decide once and for all to go with my original choice from the beginning. Thanks Dane :icon_smile_big:
I love the red choice , I dont know that i could have made the choice to change your original blk R/T. But i love that color combo
Mine will be viper red with white stripe ( i think white ) still contemplating ?
Quote Mine will be viper red
thats the color of my rod . great color.
black sucks . it's impossible to keep clean........ good choice on the red . you done yet :icon_smile_wink:
Looking good !!!
NICE VERY NICE cannot wait to see the final product. :popcrn: :2thumbs:
I painted my son's 5.0 Mustang Viper red. That's another great color. The PR3 Torred is slightly darker.
I hope to have the body back in the booth today and shoot color on it tomorrow.
That is if there aren't too many interruptions.
I painted other parts yesterday that are not in the pics. I shot the front braces and the headlamp pivots with black epoxy and then took them out of the booth before shooting the red.
I still have to shoot the front spoiler, z-braces, wing braces, wing washers and all of the front sheet metal. There's a lot of pieces to a Daytona. You have to keep thinking about a logical order to shoot all of the parts. It's a little more complicated than your average car.
Engine bay comes later. I know that's reverse from how it's normally done, but the late color change kind of threw the whole plan off a little.
Now if we can just find that crate of superbird parts that I ordered from Dayclona. UPS strikes again. Mike's been calling them and they have no clue as to where it ended up. That crate is half of the size of a small car and they somehow lost it. Sheeesh. If our governement was run as bad as...never mind. Bad analogy. :icon_smile_big:
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Quote from: moparstuart on July 16, 2008, 08:55:11 AM
I love the red choice , I dont know that i could have made the choice to change your original blk R/T. But i love that color combo
Mine will be viper red with white stripe ( i think white ) still contemplating ?
Hey, Cuda-Ken's old charger. Is that yours now Stu' or just a photo of what color choice your wanting?
Larry, a little masking paper would have saved your stand covers from paint also, I didn't notice the mess/overspray until this morning. I hammer my apprentice everytime about that. :D
Mark
yes the infamous cudaken car is my daytona clone project
Quote from: hotrod98 on July 16, 2008, 11:10:47 AM
I painted my son's 5.0 Mustang Viper red. That's another great color. The PR3 Torred is slightly darker.
I hope to have the body back in the booth today and shoot color on it tomorrow.
That is if there aren't too many interruptions.
I painted other parts yesterday that are not in the pics. I shot the front braces and the headlamp pivots with black epoxy and then took them out of the booth before shooting the red.
I still have to shoot the front spoiler, z-braces, wing braces, wing washers and all of the front sheet metal. There's a lot of pieces to a Daytona. You have to keep thinking about a logical order to shoot all of the parts. It's a little more complicated than your average car.
Engine bay comes later. I know that's reverse from how it's normally done, but the late color change kind of threw the whole plan off a little.
Now if we can just find that crate of superbird parts that I ordered from Dayclona. UPS strikes again. Mike's been calling them and they have no clue as to where it ended up. That crate is half of the size of a small car and they somehow lost it. Sheeesh. If our governement was run as bad as...never mind. Bad analogy. :icon_smile_big:
just tell him to reship the parts that nose is long gone
Mark, I got lazy. No other excuse. I need to spray the walls with spray mask as well. Too many projects, too little time.
Stuart, UPS employees, Billy Ray and Billy Bob found my crate in Lowell, Arkansas (70 miles from here) and for some unknown reason shipped it back to Kansas City. So close, yet so far.
Sheesh!
Quote from: hotrod98 on July 16, 2008, 12:40:52 PM
Mark, I got lazy. No other excuse. I need to spray the walls with spray mask as well. Too many projects, too little time.
Stuart, UPS employees, Billy Ray and Billy Bob found my crate in Lowell, Arkansas (70 miles from here) and for some unknown reason shipped it back to Kansas City. So close, yet so far.
Sheesh!
Ok i know where to get me a nose really quick , gotta run lenexa here i come !
Hey Larry very nice car and booth Bud and I love the color choice :2thumbs: I did a little work myself today, I blasted Joe's car undercarriage and engine compatment and will try and lay a little EV2 paint tomorrow also . Keep up the great work. :2thumbs:
Ken
Thanks Ken.
I would like to come by some time and check out Joe's car. I definitely want a ride in it once it's finished.
I still haven't heard anything back on the OK City bird.
Quotecudaken car
wow! , no shit . i wondered what happen to that car . i thought he still had it . what was wrong with the motor ? i remember he blew it up , or something ?
Quote from: hotrod98 on July 16, 2008, 12:23:04 AM
When I left the dealership I had paint booth withdrawals. I never realized how much I depended on that booth until I no longer had access to it. When we built the new shop there was never any question about buying a booth. I'm anxious to finish the car and get those ugly 14" slotted rims off and put the new Magnum 500's on. The part that I love is bolting on all of the new stuff. I still haven't had time to install the new leather seat covers.
There's never been a daytona wing car around this part of the world so I should garner a little attention. Not that I need the attention. :icon_smile_big:
I want your slotted rims man,,are you gonna' get rid of them...hint, hint. :D
Quote from: BigBlockSam on July 16, 2008, 10:56:58 PM
Quotecudaken car
wow! , no shit . i wondered what happen to that car . i thought he still had it . what was wrong with the motor ? i remember he blew it up , or something ?
yes he blow it up and sold the car to moparhound ( my buddy lonnie) less the motor , lonnie had it about a year then sold it to me. Lonnie lives two minutes from my house. I have had the car alttle over a year , now it has a 440 6pack motor I built and installed here at my yard/shop. Hope to soon get it to larry for wing and vega hatch install .
Its the car below in the picture
:2thumbs: nice car
Quote from: BigBlockSam on July 17, 2008, 11:15:08 AM
:2thumbs: nice car
well lets say , one day it will be
Hey Larry , you done yet :D
Time to change the color of the Daytona in your signature... :scratchchin:
yeah larry you done yet so the black car can be red now !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
looks great, keep us updated!
Quote from: hotrod98 on July 16, 2008, 12:47:28 AM
Then while going through the hundreds of Daytona pics that I have on my computer, I saw the pic of Mike (I think) driving the car that he had just bought from Dane. That clinched it. No other color combo affects me the way that the red/white combo does.
I know it's been done so many times, but there's a reason. It just looks good.
Here's the actual pic that made me decide once and for all to go with my original choice from the beginning. Thanks Dane :icon_smile_big:
Not me, my buddy (pictured) bought it from Dane and I traded my blue car with him three days later. I miss it, that is until some white trash approaches me in the purple car and I think about how intimidating it was with the wing car.
I'm sure your car's gonna shine just like all your others Larry, anxious to see it done. :2thumbs: You have to be the only person I've seen actually finish one since Dane's yellow one.
Larry, no crap, we get interruptions all day long, makes it hard to get the work done. Everyone loves to hang out at the body shop.(small town)
2. How the hell does that hanger stay so clean, ours looks like it has multi colored bed liner all over it. Man, what a nice booth that is!!!
3. Real nice color, can't wait to see more pics!
v/r
Mike
Larry,
The pictures of what you have painted so far look really great !! Everything looks well on its way to getting finished with your
Daytona Clone. Can't wait to see it finished, I know you will plan to post many more pictures.
Thanks,
Terry M.
Remember what I said about interruptions...I managed to get the car final sanded on Wednesday and was getting ready to put it in the booth Wednesday night when we got a call that my mother-in-law had taken a turn for the worse and was back in the hospital and not expected to make it. We got up early Thursday morning and drove up. She did manage to get better, but is still in serious condition. May be a few days before getting back on the clone project. Ususally, it's phone calls and visits that slow me down, but this time it was a serious family problem.
As for the stand staying clean, it's a new one. I left the old one at the dealership and it looked pretty crusty. That Superstand rotating rack was one of the best investments that I ever made. It is amazing how versatile it is. You can bolt mirrors, fender scoops, whatever to it and angle it any direction. When I paint rear spoilers on it, I can tilt it so that I don't get unpainted areas or dry areas in the clear. I left most my old equipment at the dealership and bought all new stuff.
Mike, I remember the sequence of events now. I just knew that you had it at some point after Dane sold it. My car will look virtually identical to it.
As for the avatar, I don't have the heart to ask DS to change it again. He's already done a couple of pics for me. ;D
More updates in a few days.
looks great so far and I hope all goes well,..
maybe you can donate your avitar to Mike's Angrier... :shruggy:
Quote from: Brock Samson on July 19, 2008, 01:24:48 PM
looks great so far and I hope all goes well,..
maybe you can donate your avitar to Mike's Angrier... :shruggy:
Thanks,
As for the avatar pic, DS could just black out the rims and add a fuel cell and voila..Mike's Mr. Angrier ride.
It finally turned hot here in Arkansas. With the temps near the 100 mark, I won't be painting the car any time soon. It's not that I can't paint in this heat, it's just that the clear sets up so hard, so fast that it's difficult to wet sand and buff. I'll get back on the body work on the 69 runner for a couple of weeks and watch the temps.
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Rene, How's your car coming? Here's your chance to finish your clone first. ;D
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I think you'll be happy with red. My 69 R/T SE was originally triple green, stripe delete and I went with black...it looks good, but a pain in the a$$ to keep clean. If I could do it again, it would either be the original F5 or F6...
Rich
QuoteRene, How's your car coming? Here's your chance to finish your clone first.
you win. :cheers: rite now I'm working and partying . I've invested a lot of cash this year on my cars . so I'm working double hard on bringing the bank accounts up to a safe and comfy place again . then i can invest more money into my cars but that fing nose will be on the car before the winter comes . tonite's my big bash and I'm excited ! the phone hasn't stopped ringing all day. this has turned into a great party summer and it will continue till sept. 7 of my friends have died in the last 3 years . none from drugs either just life and death caught up to them and there all younger then me . thats one of the reasons i bought my dream superbee from you Larry . life's to short not to have what you want . we don't know where we will be tomorrow . PEACE
Rene
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Quote from: BigBlockSam on July 25, 2008, 01:08:52 PM
QuoteRene, How's your car coming? Here's your chance to finish your clone first.
you win. :cheers: rite now I'm working and partying . I've invested a lot of cash this year on my cars . so I'm working double hard on bringing the bank accounts up to a safe and comfy place . then i can invest more money into my cars again but that fing nose will be on the car before the winter comes . tonite's my big bash and I'm excited ! the phone hasn't stopped ringing all day. this has turned into a great party summer and it will continue till sept. 7 of my friends have died in the last 3 years . none from drugs either just life and death caught up to them and there all younger then me . thats one of the reasons i bought my dream superbee from you Larry . life's to short not to have what you want . we don't know where we will be tomorrow . PEACE
Rene
happy birthday brother have a great party
:boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :puke:
Quote from: BigBlockSam on July 25, 2008, 01:08:52 PM
life's to short not to have what you want . we don't know where we will be tomorrow . PEACE
Rene
AMEN brotha'.
A birthday boy huh? Happy, happy Rene. :2thumbs: What is that, 21? ;)
Wish I coould be there for the party. Glad you're not regetting buying the Bee. I know it slowed the progress down on the Daytona somewhat.
Even if I buy the two runners that I've found, thankfully, I already have everything to finish the Daytona. I hope to have it finished before we leave for the SEMA show in November.
The day we finish the daytona, we're pulling the bird project into the shop for teardown.
Happy Birthday Rene. :moon:
you finished yet.................................... :whistling:
Quote from: BigBlockSam on July 28, 2008, 12:37:25 PM
you finished yet.................................... :whistling:
renee you still alive after that party !
larry you done yet ! :popcrn: :popcrn: :popcrn: :popcrn: :popcrn: :popcrn: :popcrn:
Quoterenee you still alive after that party !
barely two day hangover :cheers:
I just walked back to the shop. The thermometer said that it was 110 in the shade. Way too hot to paint. I'm going out later to start getting the cudas and the runner ready for the Branson show in a couple of weeks. The paint work will just have to wait for now.
And I was so close.
Quote from: hotrod98 on July 28, 2008, 02:41:56 PM
I just walked back to the shop. The thermometer said that it was 110 in the shade. Way too hot to paint. I'm going out later to start getting the cudas and the runner ready for the Branson show in a couple of weeks. The paint work will just have to wait for now.
And I was so close.
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i'm getting my shelby charger ready to take to the TDC charger meet in kentucky this weekend
Stuart, You are going to Branson aren't you? I think that I have one more room. We're on the strip right in the middle of the cruise area. We book most of the main floor every year. We're driving up on Thursday morning.
Quote from: hotrod98 on July 28, 2008, 05:19:03 PM
Stuart, You are going to Branson aren't you? I think that I have one more room. We're on the strip right in the middle of the cruise area. We book most of the main floor every year. We're driving up on Thursday morning.
if i had the bird done i would , but since i wont i think i'm only going to hit charger fever in hutchison ks and the DSAC even in st louis monster mopar the rest of the season !i
See you in St. Louis then.
wont miss it for the world , with the birdible :Twocents:
Since I couldn't do anything with the clone, I decided to get my cuda out last night and my wife and I went for a drive. I hate to admit that I don't do that as often as I should. The main problem is that I live in a small town and most of my friends live north of here in another city. There just aren't too many places to go with the car around here. There are probably less than five people in this town that own musclecars and I built about half of them. You can't talk the guys into getting them out and driving them because they're worried that they'll get a scratch or a rock chip in the paint. That's been the problem with building show cars. I'm not sure what's wrong with the car owners in this part of the state. They complain about not having good places to cruise and hangout, but when I try to organize cruise-ins, they're always too busy to attend.
As soon as it cools down this evening, we plan to get my wife's cuda out and take it out for a drive. We'll probably take the runner out tomorrow night. I have to install new tranny lines on the runner first. I want to make sure that all three cars are ready for the drive to Branson next week.
Are you sure you don't want to come down at least for one night. The cruising is best on Friday night. Saturday's midnight cruise is more like a parade and is downright boring. The room's only $50 a night. Best deal in town. :yesnod:
Quote from: hotrod98 on July 29, 2008, 12:18:35 PM
Since I couldn't do anything with the clone, I decided to get my cuda out last night and my wife and I went for a drive. I hate to admit that I don't do that as often as I should. The main problem is that I live in a small town and most of my friends live north of here in another city. There just aren't too many places to go with the car around here. There are probably less than five people in this town that own musclecars and I built about half of them. You can't talk the guys into getting them out and driving them because they're worried that they'll get a scratch or a rock chip in the paint. That's been the problem with building show cars. I'm not sure what's wrong with the car owners in this part of the state. They complain about not having good places to cruise and hangout, but when I try to organize cruise-ins, they're always too busy to attend.
As soon as it cools down this evening, we plan to get my wife's cuda out and take it out for a drive. We'll probably take the runner out tomorrow night. I have to install new tranny lines on the runner first. I want to make sure that all three cars are ready for the drive to Branson next week.
Are you sure you don't want to come down at least for one night. The cruising is best on Friday night. Saturday's midnight cruise is more like a parade and is downright boring. The room's only $50 a night. Best deal in town. :yesnod:
send me the link again , can i bring the little shelby charger gas save ? :smilielol:
http://www.supersummercruise.com/
ok i will ask the wife and think on it some more
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The green cuda is all cleaned up, oil changed, wipers working (looks like some rain this weekend) and we're ready to head to Branson. I'll be glad to get away from this heat. It's supposed to be in the mid to low 80's all weekend. That's going to feel like fall weather to me at this point. Gonna miss seeing you guys there.
Everyone's been coming by the shop lately to check on the daytona clone progress. Everyone so far has voted to stay with the red. These guys live around here and know what driving a black car in summer is like around here. :icon_smile_cool:
Quote from: hotrod98 on August 05, 2008, 03:52:38 PM
The green cuda is all cleaned up, oil changed, wipers working (looks like some rain this weekend) and we're ready to head to Branson. I'll be glad to get away from this heat. It's supposed to be in the mid to low 80's all weekend. That's going to feel like fall weather to me at this point. Gonna miss seeing you guys there.
Everyone's been coming by the shop lately to check on the daytona clone progress. Everyone so far has voted to stay with the red. These guys live around here and know what driving a black car in summer is like around here. :icon_smile_cool:
it's just paint if someone else wants it black down the road they car change it back :Twocents: :Twocents: :Twocents:
paint the front half red and the back half black. then you can shut one eye when you look at it. one day it could be black . on another day it could be red . :D
How about left half and right half?
Quote from: hotrod98 on August 05, 2008, 08:33:30 PM
How about left half and right half?
two face it ? yeah
Quote from: hotrod98 on August 05, 2008, 08:33:30 PM
How about left half and right half?
I lost a hubcap on my 86 K car once and so i found a pair of other ones off something else and put the two that matched on the same side. They didnt match the other side of the car though. My friends all gave me crap for it but i would look at the one side of the car and say "see, they match" then walk around to the other side and say "see, they match" :icon_smile_big:
:2thumbs: works for me
Quote from: PocketThunder on August 06, 2008, 12:34:19 PM
Quote from: hotrod98 on August 05, 2008, 08:33:30 PM
How about left half and right half?
I lost a hubcap on my 86 K car once and so i found a pair of other ones off something else and put the two that matched on the same side. They didnt match the other side of the car though. My friends all gave me crap for it but i would look at the one side of the car and say "see, they match" then walk around to the other side and say "see, they match" :icon_smile_big:
make sense to me you cant look at both sides of the car at the same time . I do it on used cars all the time :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
hey, you done yet, if i had spray booth i'd be done by now. :yesnod: :cheers:
If I had a spray booth with air conditioning I would be done now too.
Besides, I've been busy getting the cuda cleaned up to go to Branson. :yesnod:
my daytona nose is on, looks like shit and everything is outta wack but is on . now for the fine tuning. :boogie:
:cheers: Better grab a GUINNESS or 2 or3 :icon_smile_big:.
Quote from: BigBlockSam on August 07, 2008, 12:26:32 AM
my daytona nose is on, looks like shit and everything is outta wack but is on . now for the fine tuning. :boogie:
:popcrn: :popcrn: :popcrn: :popcrn: :popcrn: :popcrn: picture pictures pictures !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
here's a picture :D
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Hey you done yet . :scratchchin:
takes all the fun outta' playing "what's Under the Car Cover?".. :-\
Quote from: BigBlockSam on August 13, 2008, 07:27:20 PM
Hey you done yet . :scratchchin:
I haven't recovered from the Branson Super Summer Cruise yet. And, today I drove about 300 miles round trip to deliver a rust free 74 Charger up to Howie. I traded him the charger and got my old barracuda back.
May get to work on the clone tomorrow.
I turned the color choice over to my wife this weekend. I just couldn't decide. Guess what color scheme she chose? :icon_smile_big:
Quote from: hotrod98 on August 13, 2008, 09:52:55 PM
Quote from: BigBlockSam on August 13, 2008, 07:27:20 PM
Hey you done yet . :scratchchin:
I haven't recovered from the Branson Super Summer Cruise yet. And, today I drove about 300 miles round trip to deliver a rust free 74 Charger up to Howie. I traded him the charger and got my old barracuda back.
May get to work on the clone tomorrow.
I turned the color choice over to my wife this weekend. I just couldn't decide. Guess what color scheme she chose? :icon_smile_big:
red , good deal you are too wishy washy LOL
Get to work on the tona stop playing cars with howie , I wanna see you in a wing car at st louis :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
Quote from: hotrod98 on August 13, 2008, 09:52:55 PM
Quote from: BigBlockSam on August 13, 2008, 07:27:20 PM
Hey you done yet . :scratchchin:
I haven't recovered from the Branson Super Summer Cruise yet. And, today I drove about 300 miles round trip to deliver a rust free 74 Charger up to Howie. I traded him the charger and got my old barracuda back.
May get to work on the clone tomorrow.
I turned the color choice over to my wife this weekend. I just couldn't decide. Guess what color scheme she chose? :icon_smile_big:
General Lee? :popcrn:
Panther Pink ? :popcrn: :popcrn:
Quote from: 71ChallengeHer on August 13, 2008, 10:27:38 PM
Panther Pink ? :popcrn: :popcrn:
my wife would :drool5: :drool5: :drool5: :drool5: :drool5: over that If i had the money larry would be painting mine panther pink but it stays red !!!
I have to limit her choices to only the colors that I would approve of or otherwise every car around here would be painted limelight.
And, I keep reminding her that her superbird clone is going to be limelight
Anyway, I'll be shooting some red and white paint very very soon. Maybe even tomorrow. The rain is coming though and it's supposed to rain for the next entire week. Starting to feel like Seattle around here. Fist 104 degree heat and now constant rain. Sheeesh.
isnt rain better than the heat ? I hate the rain here just because it makes the salvage yard soggy/muddy .
A little rain isn't too bad, but a lot of rain (humidity) can make the clear blush. Luckily, I'm using polyester primer and it doesn't absorb moisture like some primers. As soon as I get the 70 Barracuda off of the trailer and into the front shop, I'll go back and see what I can get accomplished on the clone today.
Started to paint the clone today and noticed that the drip check sealer that I used on the drip rail seams a few weeks ago was looking kind of strange. Seems like it skimmed over too quickly in the 95+ degree days and then shrank later. It wasn't even sticking all that well. I had to remove all of it and start over again. That's going to slow me down for a day or so. I plan to tape the car up tomorrow and possibly paint the body on Monday. I've never had that problem with 3M drip check sealer before. :shruggy:
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PICTURES WOULD BE NICE. :yesnod: :popcrn: :popcrn: :popcrn:
Okay, here's the latest pics.
I drove the car out into the yard today and washed it inside and out. That's an absolute must before taping and shooting.
Moved it into the booth and removed the rims and placed it on jack stands. I don't like painting close to the floor. I would rather use a step to reach the center of the roof than have dust blowing up off of the floor.
I removed the exhaust filters...they were nasty already. I'll drive over to the paint store tomorrow and pick some up and hopefully start shooting the clone tomorrow evening.
More pics then.
Rene, you better hurry up. I might just pull this one off. ;D
Two more pics.
My wife and her puppy in the first pic and the clone clown in the second pic.
Awesome Larry. I'll be painting a '69 this week as well, it's a Vet' but at least it's a '69! Is your booth coated w/the spray booth coating for protection or?
I'll be painting my very own car soon as well thank goodness.
Mark
I need to coat it.
I can never remember to pick up the coating when I'm at the paint store. The one time that I did remember they were out.
I painted my 72 vette pearl white many years ago. I haven't owned a vette in years. I had a 64 convert and a 66 coupe as well. My wife and I started counting all of the musclecars that we've owned since we met and we stopped at around 300. That's almost an average of 10 a year. Hard to believe that we're 52. When we were in high school and college musclecars were cheap. We've also owned a 66 Chevy II drag car, a 69 camaro funny car and four dragsters. As soon as my wife's superbird clone is finished, I hope to get started on my 70 Barracuda drag car. More toys. :icon_smile_big:
I know the color I know the color :woohoo: :woohoo: It aint what it was gonna be. Better hurry up larry. I will be back from england before you know it and want to see it together. Oh my son picked out the color for the 74. He is on the same wavelength that your wife is on. GREEN.
looking good, you have a month
Quote from: Howie on August 18, 2008, 09:35:47 AM
I know the color I know the color :woohoo: :woohoo: It aint what it was gonna be. Better hurry up larry. I will be back from england before you know it and want to see it together. Oh my son picked out the color for the 74. He is on the same wavelength that your wife is on. GREEN.
Limelight or Sassy Grass?
Sassy Grass! I still haven`t decided on the color of my daytona recreation. How about you stuart. Have you got your color picked out for your daytona project?
my wife wants panther pink , but the budget for right now makes it Viper red , it will stay the color cudaken painted it and we will just touch up where it need be . It has a black stripe now , but i really want to change to white .
Stuart, go with panther pink with a black stripe and get the wife on board. Larry asked my wife what color and how she wanted her cuda done and her responce was when I am ready I will have him take me down to the car dealer and pick out a car. Needless to say a month after larry said that her car was T boned and totalled. She was OK and his insurance paid for the total. She now has an 08 Honda Accord. Larry has his cuda back and now I have a run around charger and am working on my second hemi for the coronet.
Get her on board and she drive the pink wing : and you drive the green wing. :popcrn: :2thumbs:
You have to admit that a pink daytona would definitely get the attention. People would know your car all over the world.
Besides, if you paint it now while you're building it , it wouldn't cost all that much more.
It wouldn't blend into the crowd like a black one...I mean a red one. ;D
Quote from: hotrod98 on August 18, 2008, 02:53:30 PM
You have to admit that a pink daytona would definitely get the attention. People would know your car all over the world.
Besides, if you paint it now while you're building it , it wouldn't cost all that much more.
It wouldn't blend into the crowd like a black one...I mean a red one. ;D
I'm glad you guys like to spend the money I dont have , She is on board with the pink , I just dont have the green to do it !
red for now , pink when i'm rich :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
Spent part of the day in the booth. The basecoat is applied and I'll be going back in to add the clearcoat shortly. Pro Spray basecoat stays open for several hours when you use the 1:1 method of mixing. By waiting a while before applying clearcoat, the basecoat solvents have time to evaporate properly. Less chance of getting solvent pop or blushing. It's almost too humid to be painting today, but it's supposed to be raining for the next week or so. I was running out of options.
Pop quiz. Did I decide on red or black? :icon_smile_big:
I hate painting black. It shows every imperfection.
Alright damn it, is this color a base coat for another color? Black cars look awesome at night and when, well fresh out of the booth, after that, the maintenance on a black car is endless.
Damn it, I really want a black car now, it's like a love hate thing, ha ha.....
I thought this was going to be RED..... Sure looks black to me.....NICE LOVE BLACK!!!!!!!!!! :2thumbs:
Quote from: hotrod98 on August 19, 2008, 06:10:41 PM
blushing
By blushing you don't mean "dye back" do you? Or does blushing happen in the BC stage. Please educate me.
v/r
Mike
Blushing equals dye-back. However, blushing can occur even at the time the finish is applied whereas dye-back usually occurs as solvents evaporate out of the inner layers of clear, basecoat and/or sealer. Most dye-back problems are going to be due to trapped solvents. Solvent pop or solvent blisters are caused by excessive amounts of solvent evaporation. I've seen this happen where the paint booth fan speed is too high and the finish skims over quickly trapping solvents. High temps, high humidity, too fast solvents all cause problems.
Here's a few pics of the car with clear applied. I did get a little trash. It looks like it came out of the vents on the cowl. No matter how much you clean it, you still get trash blowing out of that area. I see a few blemishes in the primer, but I'm happy enough with the outcome. I'll just wet sand and buff a few spots and leave it at that.
Now that it's black...I can't turn back.
:yesnod: :boogie:
thats gonna be a sweet ride. :yesnod: i hate black , cause it's such a pain in the ass to keep clean but when black is clean . there's nothing like it. :cheers:
QuoteStuart, go with panther pink with a black stripe
dude stop! please don't paint your wing car pink. please .
Looking good Larry! I'm lovin' the black :coolgleamA: :2thumbs:
Quote from: dads_69 on August 19, 2008, 10:55:35 PM
Larry, wish I could have been there. What color is the int. of your clone? Tail stripe also? I know, if I read the hole topic I would most likely have the answer, but I'm feelin' lazy...
Looks sinister.
Oh yeah, once you go black, you never go back!
Black cars look better in the shade.
The interior is black. The wing and stripe will be flat black. The car will be triple black once again.
The rims will be 17" Boyd Coddington Smoothie II's. My avatar should give you an idea of what the car will look like very soon.
I'll probably buy 18" rims later. The Boyd's are actually my wife's rims for her Cuda.
I used to love painting, but now not so much. Ironic since I now have a decent booth to paint in. I still like making cars look nice, but I think I'm getting old and lazy.
I am looking forward to painting my wife's bird clone though. Limelight always cheers me up for some reason. That and it doesn't show the small flaws like black does.
The runner that I'm building for my brother-in-law and my cuda race car are both going to be silver. Metallics are a pain in the a**, but at least they don't show the flaws. Other than mottling that is. Been a while since I had a metallic mottle on me though. I still have the two gallons of PR3 Performance Red that I bought for the daytona clone. Guess I'll save that for my 70 Camaro.
I better get used to painting again since I have several to paint over the next few months. I'm getting behind.
That much closer :popcrn: and its looking :drool5:. I am :yesnod:it. Realy liking it. It had to be black.
Thanks for the explanation. Car looks great, I wish I had your paint booth. :cheers: :2thumbs:
v/r
Mike
Wow Larry, the car looks great! :drool5: Keep the pictures coming! :2thumbs:
Rich
More pics as requested.
The first pic is the charger fresh out of the booth.
The second is of me wet sanding the entire freaking car with 1500 grit on a da sander. I hate this part.
Anyway, the next step will be to go back over it with 3000 grit on a da sander. I hate that part too.
Next step is to buff the entire car with compound and then polish with polishing compound. And, I hate that part.
The only part that I like is when it's finished and I can step back and look at it and say...never again.
But I will do it again, because I don't know any better.
As soon as the car is buffed, I'll start on the rest of the parts.
looking good :yesnod: nice work :drool5:
Funny, I used to love wet sanding cars.... I did it by hand though.......Want me to come help out...... :nana: Think I owe you for all the info this past month.... :2thumbs:
I never did the buffing, guess I was the rookie.
Man, these Chargers are big cars. I guess I'm used to my cudas and challengers. I've only managed to wet sand the roof, the plug and the tops of the panels today. I'll wet sand the sides of the doors and quarters in the morning and buff everything out tomorrow afternoon. I'm sure glad the temperature is working for me rather than against me, otherwise this car would be impossible to buff.
The car looks a lot different with the magnums. They won't be on there for long though.
Blown70, The help would be much appreciated. No one around here wants to get involved. Until it's time to paint their car that is. I get that a lot. It's hard to help people out when they're never around to recipricate. ;D
Your Daytona is looking great Larry... Two of my favorite types of Mopars combined... All Black & Wing Car! :coolgleamA:
Allen
Larry, you must be something with a DA and 1500-3000
I wet sand with 2000 then cut it with 2.0(10 cut) then I bury it with machine glaze to remove swirls.
Help me out and share your secrets please. :cheers:
v/r
Mike
Quote from: xs29j8Bullitt on August 21, 2008, 07:13:05 PM
Your Daytona is looking great Larry... Two of my favorite types of Mopars combined... All Black & Wing Car! :coolgleamA:
Allen
Thanks...the black is growing on me. I tend to complain a lot because...well...I'm kind of lazy nowadays. Youth is wasted on the young.
Quote from: mikepmcs on August 21, 2008, 07:27:51 PM
Larry, you must be something with a DA and 1500-3000
I wet sand with 2000 then cut it with 2.0(10 cut) then I bury it with machine glaze to remove swirls.
Help me out and share your secrets please. :cheers:
v/r
Mike
Me and my guys at the dealership sort of taught ourselves through trial and error. We've built and repaired a lot of black cars. I use the 3M trizact system which uses the Hookit II disc on a palm DA sander. If the clear has a lot of orange peel, I'll use 1200 grit, then drop to 1500 and then go to 3000. For a true show car, I'll follow up the 1500 Trizact with 1500 grit wetordry paper on a block to level the clear before switching to the 3000. The DA with 1500 does tend to make the clear slightly wavy. Most people don't notice it really. I skipped that step on this car. This car isn't a show car, it's a driver and it's going to get scratched, etc. 3M has their Perfectit III system and I usually use the regular compound and the fine polish. I never use the old style glazes. The old style glaze is a filler and will wash out eventually. It's for body shops that need to get the car out in a hurry. When I buff, I first use 6062 Perfect It 3000 on a 3M 5704 double sided wool pad, then switch to a 3M 5725 polishing waffle pad with the 6062, then switch to the blue 3M 5751 Ultrafina blue waffle pad with the 6068 Ultrafina polish (glaze). Everyone has their own system, but this one works without having 10 different products sitting around. I'll usually apply a carnuba wax with a soft pad on my DA and then use 3M 6016 3M detailing cloths to clean up.
I'll take a couple of pics tomorrow after I'm finished.
great info :2thumbs:
Larry, I use compound named Total w/a Maguires red pad for buffing. It's a one shot deal, no second buff unless your retentive, like I can be on darker colored cars by using PPG"s final glaze for dark colored cars only.
Looking good BTW.....
Mark
wow! very nice. looks like glass . i hate sanding too . :2thumbs:
Two black daytonas completed in the same year...three if you count the one that Mike G. built.
Must be a new record. Somebody call Guinness. :2thumbs:
Quote from: hotrod98 on August 21, 2008, 09:22:18 PM
Two black daytonas completed in the same year...three if you count the one that Mike G. built.
Must be a new record. Somebody call Guinness. :2thumbs:
oh yeah angrier :2thumbs:
I LUV IT WHEN A PLAN COMES TOGETHER! :cheers:
Does the tail light panel get organisol(or similar) or will you leave it body color?
I was just thinking about that yesterday. I'm not sure yet.
I think that with the flat black wing and stripe that it would look better to leave it glossy.
Saves me time and money as well.
Quote from: hotrod98 on August 22, 2008, 12:34:07 PM
I was just thinking about that yesterday. I'm not sure yet.
I think that with the flat black wing and stripe that it would look better to leave it glossy.
Saves me time and money as well.
would be a nice touch though !!
Quoteleave it glossy.
i think it would look better that way, with the flat black stripe
I agree Rene. After studying this pic and then the car itself, I think it will look much better glossy.
I've finished with the first step of the buffing process and getting ready to go to step two.
I'm starting to feel like I'm making some progress.
Rene, how long is your front spoiler? It looks identical to the one that I bought from Howie. I also have one of Mike G.'s Superbird front spoilers and it looks like it's around the same length as well.
Looks great Larry :2thumbs: I'm hoping to have Joe's bird painted the week. Ken
Thanks. Let me know when Joe's car is finished and I'll drive over one day to look at it. Can't wait to see it.
Quote from: hotrod98 on August 23, 2008, 10:32:28 AM
Thanks. Let me know when Joe's car is finished and I'll drive over one day to look at it. Can't wait to see it.
post some picture also of joe's car , too bad he didnt get to see his dream finished :Twocents: :angel: :angel: :angel:
QuoteRene, how long is your front spoiler? It looks identical to the one that I bought from Howie. I also have one of Mike G.'s Superbird front spoilers and it looks like it's around the same length as well.
it's two inches longer than stock. i got it from performance graphics . cheap too. Rene