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Title: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on September 17, 2011, 08:20:12 PM
Got the cutting wheels out today and this was the result.

I painted this car when I was 19, did what I could with the money I had at the time. Now that I've got the resources it's getting the resto that it deserves. I'm replaceing the goodmark trunk panel i installed several years ago and I'm replacing it as well as the quarters, tailpanel, Dutchman ect... With new AMD parts. More pics as progress continues.

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/63f3ffb8.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/5d97f96f.jpg)
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: tan top on September 18, 2011, 07:40:25 AM
 :scope:   :popcrn:  :yesnod:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: b5blue on September 18, 2011, 08:05:11 AM
Best of luck to you!   :2thumbs:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: lexxman on September 23, 2011, 10:08:16 PM
Yep your right,there no going back. Just remember its all up hill from here. :2thumbs:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: A383Wing on September 23, 2011, 10:09:26 PM
looks nekkid!
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on September 24, 2011, 01:14:17 AM
Sheetmetal came in today!!!! The quality of the AMD pieces looks excellent. Pics coming soon.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: mauve66 on September 24, 2011, 12:14:01 PM
 :o :o
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on November 05, 2011, 09:01:40 PM
Pics of outer wheelwell sectioned in.


(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/c6da77b6.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/1bd09d4f.jpg)


Test fitting trunk floor

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/64b46e51.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/70e7ba10.jpg)

Once I can verify a good fit I will be blasting the rear of the car then epoxy on the inside of the frame. Trunk floor will be getting spot welded with my new miller spot welder :)
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: tan top on November 06, 2011, 04:56:12 AM
 nice work  !! looking good   keep the pictures coming  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: lexxman on November 06, 2011, 10:57:05 AM
Man you just gotta love new sheet metal,it's coming along nice. :popcrn:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on November 09, 2011, 01:09:08 AM
Well after discovering that AMD makes these trunk pans 1/2" too short I had had to extend it to get everything to line up right.

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/cb67be0e.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/3df705c3.jpg)

Now it lines up with the quarter cap.
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/972f0686.jpg)

Weld ground down.... Can't even tell.
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/2e916664.jpg)
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on November 11, 2011, 11:43:17 AM
Welded up the gas tank brackets


(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/8378dcac.jpg)


Also got to try out my spot welder on the spare tire bracket.

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/ffc2d29e.jpg)


Just need to do some sandblasting and I can weld this thing in.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: tan top on November 12, 2011, 05:07:25 AM
 :scope:  ........ looking good  :yesnod: ......... :popcrn:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: lexxman on November 13, 2011, 07:34:11 PM
Ya,I had the some problem with the floor being too short,I was thinking it was just me. Things are looking good. :2thumbs:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on November 15, 2011, 01:08:42 PM
Thanks!
Was finally able to get some blasting done. Just about ready to spray some epoxy inside the rails then this trunk gets spot welded in place.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on November 16, 2011, 02:10:25 AM
Rails blasted clean.

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/5fac2677.jpg)


Epoxy sprayed

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/b6e75ba3.jpg)


Trunk will get one last test fit tomorrow then i will apply the weld through primer on the tops of the rails and underside of trunk floor. Then time to start spot welding.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: b5blue on November 16, 2011, 06:38:47 AM
NICE Work!  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: lexxman on November 16, 2011, 07:28:38 PM
Very nice :2thumbs:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on November 17, 2011, 02:15:30 AM
Progress was made today.


Epoxy and weld through primer

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/fe978b10.jpg)

Trunk pan cleaned up

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/4675c692.jpg)

Trunk fitted

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/116dbdcf.jpg)

First few spot welds


(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/a56fa355.jpg)

More

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/b28ada53.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/6388e5f4.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/5ada7b40.jpg)

Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: lexxman on November 18, 2011, 05:08:36 PM
Useing the spot welder must be nice.Not much if any cleaning after. :2thumbs:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Silver R/T on November 18, 2011, 05:40:59 PM
It's coming along great
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on November 18, 2011, 06:01:56 PM
Quote from: lexxman on November 18, 2011, 05:08:36 PM
Useing the spot welder must be nice.Not much if any cleaning after. :2thumbs:

It is nice but I am a little worried that the welds that I need to use the long 18" tongs on are not the greatest. May have to mig in between the spot welds.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: lexxman on November 18, 2011, 07:40:19 PM
If your worried about the spot weld not clamping tight enough you can hold the tigger for a few seconds longer. And you should be able to adjust the tention. I have a spot welder at work and it looks the same as yours.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on November 18, 2011, 08:59:43 PM
Quote from: lexxman on November 18, 2011, 07:40:19 PM
If your worried about the spot weld not clamping tight enough you can hold the tigger for a few seconds longer. And you should be able to adjust the tention. I have a spot welder at work and it looks the same as yours.

Tried just about everything with the 18" tongs.... More pressure less pressure, more trigger time ect... They just don't put out the current that the smaller tongs do. Maybe I need to try out a lenco or something besides the 220v miller.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: lexxman on November 18, 2011, 11:08:39 PM
My only other idea is to do some plug welds by drilling holes in one of the two pieces and then use a mig welder to fill the hole. :Twocents:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on November 19, 2011, 12:07:36 AM
Quote from: lexxman on November 18, 2011, 11:08:39 PM
My only other idea is to do some plug welds by drilling holes in one of the two pieces and then use a mig welder to fill the hole. :Twocents:

This is prob what I'll end up doing. Plug weld, grind smooth, use spot welder between smooth plus welds to achieve factory look.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on November 19, 2011, 12:11:11 AM
More pics.

Got the pass quarter skin cut off. Found the car to be very solid underneath.

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/e437172b.jpg)

More of the driver skin removed.

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/0fef0114.jpg)
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on November 21, 2011, 12:34:29 AM
Did my first test fit of the drivers quarter. Lots of work to do to make it perfect. Biggest issue is the 1/2" gap between the quarter and wheelhouse mating surface.

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/411d0f70.jpg)
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: lexxman on November 21, 2011, 04:49:24 PM
I guess all the car are a little different,but 1/2 thats a good little gap.Any ideas on how to fix that? it looks good.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: BigBlockSam on December 09, 2011, 03:02:07 PM
looking good  :cheers:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on January 05, 2012, 11:24:14 PM
Sorry for the lack of progress, was out of town setting up a new movie theater in Colorado for the past month. Anyways I've been back at it and making some good progress.


(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/f7d3322f.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/b131ad86.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/c7fdf0c5.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/a37e8dcc.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/442a95b6.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/e07060a9.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/782fb0f2.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/10bf22cc.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/09088d1e.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/89d46ce2.jpg)


Still a lot of work to do before it's all done but it's nice to see the panels get test fitted. Makes me feel like there is an end to this in sight.
Hopefully I can get the car blasted next week so I can epoxy it then get to welding the panels.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Dino on January 06, 2012, 08:08:52 AM
Good job man, it's coming along nicely!  It'll be in primer before you know it.  Nothing like having a project finally in one color to boost moral!

Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: SmashingPunkFan on January 07, 2012, 12:35:01 AM
Thats crazy! looks great though! :coolgleamA:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on January 17, 2012, 09:37:57 PM
Some more progress recently.

Had the rear of the car blasted

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/f0a5df08.jpg)

Epoxy sprayed

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/9b183c3a.jpg)

Inside quarters sprayed.

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/4c553e57.jpg)

Repaired my previous attemp at fixing the drivers wheel well. Fits perfect this time

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/672ecaa5.jpg)

Quarter extension done. I used the spot welder on this.

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/edfe9b5a.jpg)

Rear end test fit.

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/c3fda748.jpg)
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Hemidog on January 18, 2012, 03:57:24 AM
Hey! That's a car!  :scratchchin:  :nana:

Good job!
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: lexxman on January 18, 2012, 10:26:58 PM
The car is moving along nicely. :2thumbs:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on January 18, 2012, 10:56:20 PM
Sprayed some undercoating on the quarters today. I used the resto Rick stuff. Came out good.

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/814480e5.jpg)
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: bill440rt on January 19, 2012, 08:54:15 AM
Definitely lots of work going on there. Looks great! Hats off for taking on such a big job right in the home garage. I can smell the paint fumes already!  :icon_smile_big:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Inspector71 on January 19, 2012, 04:20:02 PM
Thanks for posting the pics. I'm just starting and don't know what I'm doing. I'm learning as I go which is half the fun. I've had to fend off the naysayers who tell me to get rid of the car and that it's too much work. Now I can show them your work and that will take care of that. Are you doing the welding? That is really good work I see. How did you learn to weld? I cut out a piece of bad metal behind the right front tire along the firewall and am feeling pretty good about my learning process. I got a long way to go but your work is an inspiration!
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: b5blue on January 19, 2012, 07:35:13 PM
  Be sure to coat the backside of the inside edge of that lip that holds the trim to the rear quarter window. It's a blind spot the factory missed in production and where my car rotted under the trim.
  Very good progress!  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on January 30, 2012, 09:21:06 PM
Having lots of problems with the valance corners. Can't get the quarter pushed over enough to meet the valance and make a nice gap before the quarter comes into contact with the trunk extension.... Been messing with it for a few days now.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Domino on January 30, 2012, 09:44:34 PM
Quote from: Ryan on January 30, 2012, 09:21:06 PM
Having lots of problems with the valance corners. Can't get the quarter pushed over enough to meet the valance and make a nice gap before the quarter comes into contact with the trunk extension.... Been messing with it for a few days now.

I've not heard of any fitting right, you'll need to slice it, spread the gap til it fits and then insert a wedge to repair the opening. Both sides on mine required a triangular piece added 3/8" or so wide at the top along the quarter side. The valance side was ok, but had to adjust the angle it sat against the inner valance.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on January 30, 2012, 09:53:36 PM
Quote from: Domino on January 30, 2012, 09:44:34 PM
Quote from: Ryan on January 30, 2012, 09:21:06 PM
Having lots of problems with the valance corners. Can't get the quarter pushed over enough to meet the valance and make a nice gap before the quarter comes into contact with the trunk extension.... Been messing with it for a few days now.

I've not heard of any fitting right, you'll need to slice it, spread the gap til it fits and then insert a wedge to repair the opening. Both sides on mine required a triangular piece added 3/8" or so wide at the top along the quarter side. The valance side was ok, but had to adjust the angle it sat against the inner valance.


Do you have any pics of this?
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: lexxman on January 30, 2012, 10:46:59 PM
I had some problems with mine as well.Where did you get your corners? I'm not sure if charger specialists or AMD are the same,but this website was a great help. http://www.69hemi.com/sheet.html

Dave
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on January 30, 2012, 11:17:53 PM
Quote from: lexxman on January 30, 2012, 10:46:59 PM
I had some problems with mine as well.Where did you get your corners? I'm not sure if charger specialists or AMD are the same,but this website was a great help. http://www.69hemi.com/sheet.html

Dave

Everything is AMD
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: b5blue on January 31, 2012, 06:42:08 AM
Please post pics of what your dealing with on the corner caps, I need to replace my rear valance and corners also! :scratchchin:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Domino on January 31, 2012, 07:09:20 AM
Quote from: Ryan on January 30, 2012, 09:53:36 PM

Do you have any pics of this?

This pic shows the ground area where I inserted the filler wedge.  I can post better pics of the operation tonight....
Basically, I made it fit to the rear valance perfectly, ignoring the fit to the quarter.  Then sliced the corner piece vertically near the quarter panel, aligned and clamped the flap against the qtr then fill the opened up slice with a patch piece.  After it fit nice, I plug welded the corner to the qtr off the car.
You may also need to "adjust" your trunk extensions or grind down the mating flaps if the corner/qtr bottom doesn't pull in tight.
Another tip, I tacked a drilled tab to the bottom of the qtr, beneath the marker light, hooked a ratchet strap to the tab and pulled it gently in towards the frame.  This is better than palming the qtr which might dent/distort it
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/Sirfizzle/70%20Charger%20Restoration/100_2170.jpg)
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on January 31, 2012, 12:18:55 PM
Thanks for the explanation and the ratchet strap tip. I think I got the idea now. Still would like to see the other pics though when you can. Thanks again.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Domino on January 31, 2012, 06:17:57 PM
Quote from: Ryan on January 31, 2012, 12:18:55 PM
Thanks for the explanation and the ratchet strap tip. I think I got the idea now. Still would like to see the other pics though when you can. Thanks again.

I don't have one showing the section before I welded it up, but this will hopefully clarify what I did
(and, yes I did blast again after this was taken!)
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/Sirfizzle/70%20Charger%20Restoration/100_2165_wedge.jpg)
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on January 31, 2012, 08:14:15 PM
This is what I've got right now.

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/f0eb702b.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/9100ccd5.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/cb8eb741.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/d105664d.jpg)
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Domino on January 31, 2012, 08:32:03 PM
Yup, that's what I had going on as well. Check out the red triangle I drew, that's what you need to add after cutting a slice.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on January 31, 2012, 09:21:16 PM
Quote from: Domino on January 31, 2012, 08:32:03 PM
Yup, that's what I had going on as well. Check out the red triangle I drew, that's what you need to add after cutting a slice.


Yep that pic makes perfect sence.

Question.
From the rear crossmember to the trunk extensions was your mounting flange even? The flange on my trunk extensions is lower then the rear crossmember and I  having a hell of a time getting it to go up.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Domino on January 31, 2012, 09:36:25 PM
If I recall, I had a similar issue with that as well. With the ext clamped to the trunk pan, I clamped a straight edge to set the ext floor level and flush with the trunk pan, then wrapped the flap around to mate with the rear crossmember. That caused some misalignment. I had to trim the ext floor and rework the top of the fold over to mate that area.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on January 31, 2012, 10:25:30 PM
Quote from: Domino on January 31, 2012, 09:36:25 PM
If I recall, I had a similar issue with that as well. With the ext clamped to the trunk pan, I clamped a straight edge to set the ext floor level and flush with the trunk pan, then wrapped the flap around to mate with the rear crossmember. That caused some misalignment. I had to trim the ext floor and rework the top of the fold over to mate that area.

When you say you had to trim the ext. floor do you mean the area under the fold over?
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on January 31, 2012, 11:49:12 PM
You know the more I look at it and compare my original corners to the AMD ones I think it's the quarter panel that needs to be sliced and not the corner extension. Need to look at my other charger some more tomorrow and take some measurements and compare to my original quarters that are still sitting on the side of the house.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Domino on February 01, 2012, 06:54:57 AM
Quote from: Ryan on January 31, 2012, 10:25:30 PM
Quote from: Domino on January 31, 2012, 09:36:25 PM
If I recall, I had a similar issue with that as well. With the ext clamped to the trunk pan, I clamped a straight edge to set the ext floor level and flush with the trunk pan, then wrapped the flap around to mate with the rear crossmember. That caused some misalignment. I had to trim the ext floor and rework the top of the fold over to mate that area.

When you say you had to trim the ext. floor do you mean the area under the fold over?

Yeah, a snip-tuck under that flap was needed.

As far as adding a section to the qtr, that's certainly another way to do it.  
I did not have a decent stock qtr to really inspect, but I looked at some pics of other cars and it SEEMED like the vertical edge at the bumper pocket lines up with the corner seam.  Sectioning the qtr would have interrupted that alignment, so I chose to modify the corner as the less noticable option.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on February 01, 2012, 08:49:23 PM
Quote from: Domino on February 01, 2012, 06:54:57 AM
Quote from: Ryan on January 31, 2012, 10:25:30 PM
Quote from: Domino on January 31, 2012, 09:36:25 PM
If I recall, I had a similar issue with that as well. With the ext clamped to the trunk pan, I clamped a straight edge to set the ext floor level and flush with the trunk pan, then wrapped the flap around to mate with the rear crossmember. That caused some misalignment. I had to trim the ext floor and rework the top of the fold over to mate that area.

When you say you had to trim the ext. floor do you mean the area under the fold over?

Yeah, a snip-tuck under that flap was needed.

As far as adding a section to the qtr, that's certainly another way to do it.  
I did not have a decent stock qtr to really inspect, but I looked at some pics of other cars and it SEEMED like the vertical edge at the bumper pocket lines up with the corner seam.  Sectioning the qtr would have interrupted that alignment, so I chose to modify the corner as the less noticable option.

Looking at my 68 charger and my original quarters, the line does meet up with the bumper pocket however the angle changes after the bumper pocket. My AMD quarters measured shorter at the bottom then my originals did so I guess I'll be slicing the quarter and adding. Pictures to come soon.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on February 08, 2012, 09:04:06 PM
Made the cut today.

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/efb02417.jpg)
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on February 10, 2012, 05:31:21 PM
Pretty disappointed with the valance.

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/9be958cf.jpg)
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Patronus on February 10, 2012, 06:31:19 PM
Mine looked exactly like that. I added the piece into the corner, not the valence though.. The valence is plenty strong at that inside bend, I cut a slit in it and used the hammer and dolly to get it close. Weld it up and then I used some "all metal" filler.

edit: oops didnt see that was the quarter for a sec... either way, in 20 minutes you wont even know its there.. I did have to add about the same into the top of the new quarter at the jamb, plus had to rework the whole rear window areas so its common.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: NHCharger on February 10, 2012, 10:08:51 PM
Quote from: Ryan on February 10, 2012, 05:31:21 PM
Pretty disappointed with the valance.


Yup, my AMD valance looked just like that. Still beats the alternative of trying to find a decent used one.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on February 12, 2012, 08:46:16 PM
 :Drivers side corner gap almost finished

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/7303d07f.jpg)
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: lexxman on February 13, 2012, 09:44:02 PM
That looks good.You did a great job.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: gtx6970 on February 20, 2012, 08:23:28 AM
WOW, it looks like we are in the exact same boat

Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on March 07, 2012, 02:31:44 PM
Not much progress lately. But I did manage to test fit some trim and drill holes for it. As well as test fit my taillights. The taillight buckets were not welded properly by AMD. I will need to grind the spot welds, adjust the buckets and re spot weld them.... Not very happy about this.

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/05b0c303.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/e69c0646.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/6bfd09a3.jpg)
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: 73rallye440magnum on March 07, 2012, 07:25:34 PM
Nice work. Are your tail lights original pieces? (Does any one even repro those?)

Call AMD and make them aware of the issue.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: lexxman on March 07, 2012, 09:05:18 PM
That is looking nice,just like a having a new car. :2thumbs:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Charger-Bodie on March 07, 2012, 09:36:50 PM
AMD should just sell the tail light pockets seperatly. They are always out of whack.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on March 08, 2012, 02:03:02 AM
Quote from: 1HotDaytona on March 07, 2012, 09:36:50 PM
AMD should just sell the tail light pockets seperatly. They are always out of whack.

I agree. This is the second tail panel they have sent me.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: jeffsjag90 on March 09, 2012, 12:26:14 PM
Could you explain what the problem is with taillight pockets. I am about to put mine on and would just like a heads up.

Thank you
Jeff
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on March 09, 2012, 12:34:12 PM
Quote from: jeffsjag90 on March 09, 2012, 12:26:14 PM
Could you explain what the problem is with taillight pockets. I am about to put mine on and would just like a heads up.

Thank you
Jeff

They were welded crooked. When the taillight is installed it doesn't fit even. Looks good on one half then looks pushed in about 1/2" on the other half
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on March 09, 2012, 02:41:31 PM
Here are some better pics in daylight. The drivers side one is "ok" and will only need minor tweaking but the pass side is pretty bad.

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/a2b4cc40.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/194c0a84.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/61344f22.jpg)
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: jeffsjag90 on March 09, 2012, 04:49:58 PM
Thank you for pics. That will help me out more than you know. I am sure glad you are ahead of me. You where correct about quarters needing to be cut. I had to do just as you did. Good eye!!!!
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on March 09, 2012, 07:02:13 PM
The next task is going to be fixing this

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/6ab8e261.jpg)

Not sure how I am going to do this yet.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: b5blue on March 10, 2012, 07:45:34 AM
 :o ?
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: lexxman on March 10, 2012, 08:00:08 PM
Does AMD offer any guidance for when you get to that WTF point? Is there anything you can do about the tail light opening,or are you just going to live with it?
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on March 11, 2012, 02:06:01 AM
Quote from: lexxman on March 10, 2012, 08:00:08 PM
Does AMD offer any guidance for when you get to that WTF point? Is there anything you can do about the tail light opening,or are you just going to live with it?

Not really. They make it sound like I'm the only guy in the world that has fittment issues. They seem to be ok with replaceing a panel once but once you get the replacement and it's exactly the same as what it was replaceing you are then SOL. Im not trying to bash AMD at all, I appreciate what they have provided to the hobby but their products still need a lot of fine tuning on their end.

As far as the tailpanel goes I will be able to reposition the taillight buckets its just going to be a pain in the ass.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Patronus on March 11, 2012, 09:55:07 AM
Had the same thing on the rear glass area.. only worse.. Its not too bad, just slit it again and pull it out to meet and then weld it up.. Use the glass for fitment. If it were easy chicks would do it.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on March 11, 2012, 11:11:04 AM
Quote from: Patronus on March 11, 2012, 09:55:07 AM
Had the same thing on the rear glass area.. only worse.. Its not too bad, just slit it again and pull it out to meet and then weld it up.. Use the glass for fitment. If it were easy chicks would do it.

Do you have any pics of what you did?
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on April 22, 2012, 06:48:50 PM
Havnt made much progress lately but I did get some work done today.
Passenger side corner cap is done, got the New goodmark valance in place as well.
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/00ec5830.jpg)

Got the passenger taillight bucket re welded. It's much better now. Still one small area that will need to be cut and patched.
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/bbb730bc.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/349ecf48.jpg)
You can see here how the opening doesn't follow the taillight at the curved part on the bottom.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Charger-Bodie on April 22, 2012, 07:12:29 PM
Ryan, I think you may want to take a look at your tailight. Looks like the trim is bent right at you problem spot.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Patronus on April 22, 2012, 08:01:10 PM
Quote from: Ryan on March 11, 2012, 11:11:04 AM
Quote from: Patronus on March 11, 2012, 09:55:07 AM
Had the same thing on the rear glass area.. only worse.. Its not too bad, just slit it again and pull it out to meet and then weld it up.. Use the glass for fitment. If it were easy chicks would do it.

Do you have any pics of what you did?

No sorries, no pics. Looks like your doing a great job though! In your pic of the rear glass corner... If you cut the outside bend coming up from the actual glass channel, its between your silver paint pen marks, kinda like a "j" shape. Just cut about 1- 1.5" up from the bend. Then cut the lower inside corner of the glass channel (so basically its in 3 prongs... then bend the finger you made in until it lines up. Then weld it up. Mine was a bit worse actually. The light panel now theres a bitch...
The more I look at it you could also cut similarly the dutchman to line up, (and remove a small pie piece) check which is better with the glass staged in there...
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: HOTROD on April 23, 2012, 12:53:02 AM
That sucks I still need to buy one !! :flame:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on April 23, 2012, 09:41:00 AM
Quote from: 1HotDaytona on April 22, 2012, 07:12:29 PM
Ryan, I think you may want to take a look at your tailight. Looks like the trim is bent right at you problem spot.

I don't think it's bent. It fits perfect in the oem tail panel.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Charger-Bodie on April 23, 2012, 09:45:44 AM
Quote from: Ryan on April 23, 2012, 09:41:00 AM
Quote from: 1HotDaytona on April 22, 2012, 07:12:29 PM
Ryan, I think you may want to take a look at your tailight. Looks like the trim is bent right at you problem spot.

I don't think it's bent. It fits perfect in the oem tail panel.

Im not saying that is bent for sure. Just , from the way the trim fits the light there that its possible.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on May 06, 2012, 11:33:25 PM
Finally was happy with the fit so I started welding.

Started on the drivers quarter panel

Spot welds on b pillar
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/985a9bae.jpg)

Spot welds on bottom of trunk extension
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/6a831dad.jpg)

Spot welds on wheel well. Probably going to have to plug weld the rest of it as I can't get the spot welder into most of the wheel well.
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/6259e01b.jpg)
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: superbirdtom on May 09, 2012, 09:32:52 AM
your one of the first guys ive sen on here spot weld the wheel well lip.  it makes it look like factory.  we just bought a new spotwelder and it looks great  had to up our breaker to 100 amp. so it would quit popping though.   thats the first place people look ( judges) on a resto.  and if its been plug welded and smoothed out  they deduct points.  so your good to go. 

project looking good.  does anyone else make a better fitting tail light panel??
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: charger_fan_4ever on May 09, 2012, 11:37:08 AM
Quote from: superbirdtom on May 09, 2012, 09:32:52 AM
your one of the first guys ive sen on here spot weld the wheel well lip.  it makes it look like factory.  we just bought a new spotwelder and it looks great  had to up our breaker to 100 amp. so it would quit popping though.   thats the first place people look ( judges) on a resto.  and if its been plug welded and smoothed out  they deduct points.  so your good to go.  

project looking good.  does anyone else make a better fitting tail light panel??

99% sure AMD is the only one making the tail panel. Buckets had to be cut off mine too and repositioned. Other than that the fit was pretty good for repro.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: lexxman on May 09, 2012, 10:00:55 PM
Did you trim the wheel well openings? I haven't trimmed mine I'm not sure how wide they should be. :shruggy:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on May 09, 2012, 11:44:27 PM
Quote from: lexxman on May 09, 2012, 10:00:55 PM
Did you trim the wheel well openings? I haven't trimmed mine I'm not sure how wide they should be. :shruggy:

Yes but not much. Maybe 1/8" at most and only in certain areas. Just trying to make the two pieces flush.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: superbirdtom on May 10, 2012, 10:28:16 AM
Quote from: charger_fan_4ever on May 09, 2012, 11:37:08 AM
Quote from: superbirdtom on May 09, 2012, 09:32:52 AM
your one of the first guys ive sen on here spot weld the wheel well lip.  it makes it look like factory.  we just bought a new spotwelder and it looks great  had to up our breaker to 100 amp. so it would quit popping though.   thats the first place people look ( judges) on a resto.  and if its been plug welded and smoothed out  they deduct points.  so your good to go.  

project looking good.  does anyone else make a better fitting tail light panel??

99% sure AMD is the only one making the tail panel. Buckets had to be cut off mine too and repositioned. Other than that the fit was pretty good for repro.
Thanks  as were starting total resto on a 70 charger r/t  orange with vinyl top and 4 speed.  its all there but needs roof  quarters and all the back end stuff,  plus  a hood.  god I hope someone starts repopping them.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: charger_fan_4ever on May 10, 2012, 11:24:26 AM
Quote from: Ryan on May 09, 2012, 11:44:27 PM
Quote from: lexxman on May 09, 2012, 10:00:55 PM
Did you trim the wheel well openings? I haven't trimmed mine I'm not sure how wide they should be. :shruggy:

Yes but not much. Maybe 1/8" at most and only in certain areas. Just trying to make the two pieces flush.

Both 1/4's the forward arch towards the door is not a tight fit against the outer wheelhouse lip on my 70.

Edit i stand corrected after some tweaking the drivers side fits pretty snug at the wheelhouse lip.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on May 11, 2012, 09:18:35 PM
Quote from: charger_fan_4ever on May 10, 2012, 11:24:26 AM
Quote from: Ryan on May 09, 2012, 11:44:27 PM
Quote from: lexxman on May 09, 2012, 10:00:55 PM
Did you trim the wheel well openings? I haven't trimmed mine I'm not sure how wide they should be. :shruggy:

Yes but not much. Maybe 1/8" at most and only in certain areas. Just trying to make the two pieces flush.

Both 1/4's the forward arch twoards the door is not a tight fit against the outer wheelhouse lip on my 70.

My drivers side way perfect.... pass side needs a little help.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: lexxman on May 12, 2012, 04:49:38 PM
About how wide is that lip? Mine are at least 3/4 or more I think I'll have to go check.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: superbirdtom on May 17, 2012, 10:33:35 AM
check factory one be4 starting
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on June 03, 2012, 01:42:22 AM
Not much progress but I did finally find a super nice passenger door. Hopefully going to get a driver side tomorrow.

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/8d0b9297.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/9f89afae.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/f423b3bf.jpg)
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: b5blue on June 03, 2012, 06:21:37 AM
Very nice!  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: charger_fan_4ever on June 06, 2012, 09:20:08 AM
Good for you man. I remember the days when every swap meet had atleast 3 sets of charger doors. I looked for over 6 months to find a good passengers side anywhere within a 500 mile radius that was rust free with no luck. Ended up getting an AMD door skin as my shell was ok. $300 skin plus time to put it on wish i could have found a rust free door.
Didn't quite dare buy a whole AMD shell as if it fits like most of their other panels would have needed a hammer lol.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: BigBlockSam on June 06, 2012, 10:01:49 AM
 :cheers: :cheers: looking good
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on June 07, 2012, 10:04:15 AM
Quote from: charger_fan_4ever on June 06, 2012, 09:20:08 AM
Good for you man. I remember the days when every swap meet had atleast 3 sets of charger doors. I looked for over 6 months to find a good passengers side anywhere within a 500 mile radius that was rust free with no luck. Ended up getting an AMD door skin as my shell was ok. $300 skin plus time to put it on wish i could have found a rust free door.
Didn't quite dare buy a whole AMD shell as if it fits like most of their other panels would have needed a hammer lol.

Ya I was hesitant to use the AMD door shell on this car. I have heard good things about them though. Just didnt want to take chances.
I'm super happy with this door. Still has its original paint.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: charger_fan_4ever on June 07, 2012, 02:39:16 PM
Oh ya nothing like original paint stuff :). I got the lime 70 door from my brother he picked it up years ago and hung it in the rafters. Original paint of a r/t, still has the door vin still.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o159/rpmmustang89/charger%20resto/Picture153.jpg)
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on June 07, 2012, 06:17:57 PM
Good looking project.
How did that roof skin fit? That's next on my list.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: charger_fan_4ever on June 08, 2012, 06:46:08 AM
Quote from: Ryan on June 07, 2012, 06:17:57 PM
Good looking project.
How did that roof skin fit? That's next on my list.

Typical amd fit lol. Hammer and cutting wheel required. The edges that go onto the drip rails had to be trimmed as it was too wide to fit in. It also fit the rear inner structure too tight in the c pillar area. Had to take a block of wood and a hammer tot he inner section to let the skin sit down on it.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on June 12, 2012, 12:32:21 AM
Quote from: charger_fan_4ever on June 08, 2012, 06:46:08 AM
Quote from: Ryan on June 07, 2012, 06:17:57 PM
Good looking project.
How did that roof skin fit? That's next on my list.

Typical amd fit lol. Hammer and cutting wheel required. The edges that go onto the drip rails had to be trimmed as it was too wide to fit in. It also fit the rear inner structure too tight in the c pillar area. Had to take a block of wood and a hammer tot he inner section to let the skin sit down on it.


Well that doesn't sound too bad.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on July 08, 2012, 01:37:21 PM
Not too much progress recently unfortunately.
I did get a little work done on the drivers door gap though. It was way too tight towards the bottom so I cut it open and welded it back up. The end result came out great.

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/128227d7.jpg)
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: b5blue on July 08, 2012, 04:29:36 PM
Nice!  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Patronus on July 08, 2012, 08:41:37 PM
Thats the only part of mine that fit up great. Looking at all the resto threads lets you see just how different each stamping can be.
Looks good though, have you picked a color?
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on July 08, 2012, 10:59:09 PM
Quote from: Patronus on July 08, 2012, 08:41:37 PM
Thats the only part of mine that fit up great. Looking at all the resto threads lets you see just how different each stamping can be.
Looks good though, have you picked a color?

You know I think it may have been my car more so then the panel. My factory quarter was the same way. I tried 2 different doors.

As far as color goes I'm not sure. I may do it black again But I may go for Q5. Factory color was F5 but I really don't think I want to paint it that color and since the fender tag is MIA I suppose changing the color is ok.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on September 12, 2012, 11:41:47 AM
well after a couple months of not touching the car due to other projects I finally got back at it last weekend.
I started welding the passenger quarter and the dutchmman panel. The dutchman panel is going to need some work as is the window corner on the quarter panels. Passenger side is a joke, the drivers side is close.

The dutchman panel is too short by 3/16 - 1/4" both sides are going to need to get slit and opened up to get the gaps looking good.

pics to follow.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: charger_fan_4ever on September 13, 2012, 09:47:02 AM
Quote from: Ryan on September 12, 2012, 11:41:47 AM
well after a couple months of not touching the car due to other projects I finally got back at it last weekend.
I started welding the passenger quarter and the dutchmman panel. The dutchman panel is going to need some work as is the window corner on the quarter panels. Passenger side is a joke, the drivers side is close.

The dutchman panel is too short by 3/16 - 1/4" both sides are going to need to get slit and opened up to get the gaps looking good.

pics to follow.

Surprise eh  :brickwall:

Sides had to be slit and both corners reworked on mine. Guess I was lucky the length was ok. The window corners were not as bad as other pics i saw on the forum.

Still a PITA.

Keep goin :)
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Dino on September 13, 2012, 11:03:44 AM
Quote from: Ryan on July 08, 2012, 01:37:21 PM
Not too much progress recently unfortunately.
I did get a little work done on the drivers door gap though. It was way too tight towards the bottom so I cut it open and welded it back up. The end result came out great.

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/128227d7.jpg)

Are you going to adjust the corners as well?  They are always too tight and on all 2nd gens should be cut, reshaped and welded.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on September 13, 2012, 01:49:15 PM
Quote from: Dino on September 13, 2012, 11:03:44 AM


Are you going to adjust the corners as well?  They are always too tight and on all 2nd gens should be cut, reshaped and welded.

I already did. It was touching before I made a few cuts and got out the hammer. It still a little tight compared to the gap on the straight edge but I think it looks acceptable. The photo is also a little misleading.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on September 13, 2012, 01:52:03 PM
Quote from: charger_fan_4ever on September 13, 2012, 09:47:02 AM
Quote from: Ryan on September 12, 2012, 11:41:47 AM
well after a couple months of not touching the car due to other projects I finally got back at it last weekend.
I started welding the passenger quarter and the dutchmman panel. The dutchman panel is going to need some work as is the window corner on the quarter panels. Passenger side is a joke, the drivers side is close.

The dutchman panel is too short by 3/16 - 1/4" both sides are going to need to get slit and opened up to get the gaps looking good.

pics to follow.

Surprise eh  :brickwall:

Sides had to be slit and both corners reworked on mine. Guess I was lucky the length was ok. The window corners were not as bad as other pics i saw on the forum.

Still a PITA.

Keep goin :)

Ya but what can you do. I honestly enjoy fixing some of these issues as it tests my skills and just makes me that much more proud of my work.
I was very impressed with the finished product on your dutchman panel / window corners. The gaps came out great!
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Dino on September 13, 2012, 01:57:33 PM
Quote from: Ryan on September 13, 2012, 01:49:15 PM
Quote from: Dino on September 13, 2012, 11:03:44 AM


Are you going to adjust the corners as well?  They are always too tight and on all 2nd gens should be cut, reshaped and welded.

I already did. It was touching before I made a few cuts and got out the hammer. It still a little tight compared to the gap on the straight edge but I think it looks acceptable. The photo is also a little misleading.

:2thumbs:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on September 13, 2012, 02:05:28 PM
Some pics of the dutchman panel. Spot welder worked wonders on this panel :coolgleamA:
Still need to slice the sides to finish the gaps.

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/B7973C11-361D-44D5-B041-EAF2FBE09A44-32449-00000622F3DA8C3B.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/5D5D3377-A7AF-40A1-8B0C-9297CE697CD4-32449-00000622EF45C20C.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/7D61E628-6D5E-4CCA-9B58-F23F805994C5-32449-00000622F85F0360.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/4C634772-3A58-4A0B-AE76-31D77EB5314C-32449-00000622E947E382.jpg)
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on September 13, 2012, 02:08:15 PM
Pics showing spot welds on the passenger side of the rear window channel.
Passenger side quarter has been welded for the most part. Still a few more welds to make. Also started ripping out the floor pan. I am excited for how easy the floor pan is going to be..... well at least the removal of it.


(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/F86CBD65-7564-4DCD-8994-119A6CAF034B-32449-00000622E1FDEA19.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/BA205099-CAC1-495F-BC50-4880B70D6BDA-32449-00000622D5C4DEC3.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/72CFA9D6-966F-43D3-905A-665DF3F29547-32449-00000622CD28016C.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/BF8E47AA-1766-430E-A823-350FBC7E5688-32449-00000622D2423D1E.jpg)
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on September 16, 2012, 11:00:20 PM
Progress on the floor and torsion bar crossmember

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/9EF0A322-80B4-436F-9FF9-EE681F3F27C6-1972-00000240A131753E.jpg)
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Fred on September 17, 2012, 02:11:40 AM
Coming along very nicely. Good job.  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: SmashingPunkFan on September 17, 2012, 07:53:30 AM
Quote from: Ryan on September 16, 2012, 11:00:20 PM
Progress on the floor and torsion bar crossmember

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/9EF0A322-80B4-436F-9FF9-EE681F3F27C6-1972-00000240A131753E.jpg)

Me likey. Do you have any closeups of the frame rails? :drool5:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ghoste on September 17, 2012, 08:48:48 AM
It sure is scary when you see a unibody car all stripped down that far.  :o :lol: 

You're doing a good thing there.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on September 20, 2012, 11:42:00 PM
Been making some progress on the floor and torsion bar crossmember the past few days.
I'll have to say this crossmember is one of the better pieces that AMD makes. The fit is very nice.
On a less positive note I really wish I would have decided to replace the floor and crossmember before I started installing the US car tool connectors  :slap: Thankfully I only did one.


(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/F50A6785-A391-49EA-8ED3-B6C134A6AE34-4731-000005D83545A1D8_zps963d7fc9.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/A0FFFC31-250A-4820-933E-C2E8996EC8E1-4731-000005D82CEBE6CD_zps637fc479.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/06617645-DDC9-4768-90D7-EC0EE45A72AC-4731-000005D8224F4202_zpsed12bb03.jpg)
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: lexxman on September 22, 2012, 10:50:25 AM
That looks alot easier to do with the floor out. I did mine with the floor still in the car. Just had to open the floor at the ends. Looks good, keep the pictures coming. :2thumbs:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on September 22, 2012, 04:22:14 PM
Quote from: lexxman on September 22, 2012, 10:50:25 AM
That looks alot easier to do with the floor out. I did mine with the floor still in the car. Just had to open the floor at the ends. Looks good, keep the pictures coming. :2thumbs:

I couldn't imagine doing it with the floor still in  :o

Did you use the AMD crossmember or did you find a used one? I'm up in the air if I'm going to weld this thing in or not. For the most part its OK but a couple things are making me want to find a used OEM piece.  The torsion bar mounts are a little crooked (they look like they will still work though) and the crossmember is narrow in a few spots compared to the original.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: lexxman on September 22, 2012, 06:00:01 PM
I found a really nice orginal part for $200.00 and it went in pretty easy. I have some pictures on my page. http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3238088/1969-dodge-charger/page-7 The AMD looks good and if youthink it will still work,I'd use it. Since you have it in place,how norrow is it?
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on September 22, 2012, 09:09:03 PM
Quote from: lexxman on September 22, 2012, 06:00:01 PM
I found a really nice orginal part for $200.00 and it went in pretty easy. I have some pictures on my page. http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3238088/1969-dodge-charger/page-7 The AMD looks good and if youthink it will still work,I'd use it. Since you have it in place,how norrow is it?


It meets the rockers on both sides. What i meant by too narrow is that the frame rail towards the rocker should measure 2 5/8" but the AMD one measures only measures 2 1/8" its not a huge issue but it isn't correct.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: lexxman on September 22, 2012, 10:24:08 PM
I guess that would work out to a 1/4" per side. maybe.Well if you could return it or sell,it shouldn't hard to find an OEM part.Hope you work something out.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on September 25, 2012, 02:58:01 PM
Well after some more tweaking and fitting I ended up getting the crossmember to nicely. Its not as bad as I thought it was. The only issue is that it is a little skinny at the ends of the crossmember but its not something anyone would ever notice unless you had a tape measure and two cars on lifts side by side.

At this point the crossmember is welded in place and is looking good. Need to do a little bit of sandblasting so I can shoot the inside of the frame rails and the rockers with epoxy then I will be welding the floor down and installing the 4 speed hump.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: b5blue on September 25, 2012, 03:54:14 PM
 How do you keep you momentum going at this point!  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on September 25, 2012, 04:17:48 PM
Quote from: b5blue on September 25, 2012, 03:54:14 PM
How do you keep you momentum going at this point!  :2thumbs:

By telling myself that I'll get to drive it again someday haha.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: b5blue on September 25, 2012, 07:53:43 PM
Mine sat in storage for many years waiting for the 440 rebuild. I look forward to your next drive report!  :yesnod:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: lexxman on September 25, 2012, 09:18:33 PM
Quote from: Ryan on September 25, 2012, 04:17:48 PM
Quote from: b5blue on September 25, 2012, 03:54:14 PM
How do you keep you momentum going at this point!  :2thumbs:

By telling myself that I'll get to drive it again someday haha.
I'm in that same boat,I've done allot. But still have alto to do,I just focus on one section at a time and I've started taking apart the engine. With that I can see progress. I've been working on mine for 4 years.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: richRTSE on September 25, 2012, 10:05:16 PM
Quote from: Ryan on September 16, 2012, 11:00:20 PM
Progress on the floor and torsion bar crossmember

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/9EF0A322-80B4-436F-9FF9-EE681F3F27C6-1972-00000240A131753E.jpg)



hey I thought that was my picture for a second...  :icon_smile_big:  
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on September 27, 2012, 10:49:25 PM
Well the crossmember is in. It wasn't as bad as i thought it was and after some minor adjustments it is in and good to go :cheers:

I have now began test fitting the floor pan and for the most part the fit on this panel is great. It leaves a little to be desired at the front firewall seam but after some adjustments with a pry bar, clamps and hammer it is going into shape nicely. I'm hoping I can get a little sandblasting done tomorrow then shoot some epoxy then start welding this SOB in. Then its onto the roof. :2thumbs:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/16C97EDA-788A-4913-9CB6-8BA6F1517017-8886-00000C798E181116.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/08723E56-DA97-4070-9D5C-3069E0B1396B-8886-00000C79894F4CBA.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/4CDE6721-BFE4-429A-9798-3111A5E97923-8886-00000C7985404008.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/C3F1DC46-F5E6-4B90-9D9B-0C7744A942DA-8886-00000C68D9711CFD.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/6F0AEE8C-6415-46B7-8249-E795E3742DA1-8886-00000C68D476AFB6.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/24CD30F0-CBC1-4A39-ACB4-3BF088ED8D7A-8886-00000C68CFCCA994.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/E12EAFE7-B11D-46AC-B981-DEF36CC1CE78-8886-00000C68CB74A002.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/D70FD991-59CB-4A3D-A852-39DB1B3D03FB-8886-00000C68B6F98CF3.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/1F3390AB-F13D-4602-B90B-6B06DD2E40D5-8886-00000C68B29FFB8A.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/2DF688CE-AC3A-49E9-B954-52EA4D4B4ACD-8886-00000C68ADAD746E.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/6D1C73D5-3073-4A49-8ECA-5AC1BF18E47B-8886-00000C68A939FA59.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/DC073042-1194-4E63-ACE1-FFF35FAF7207-8886-00000C68A46DF5A4.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/D9C2C699-B0B3-4522-9D02-9C5D5C3EAF9E-8886-00000C68A08BF294.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/32F428B4-67D2-4012-B00C-626869268B64-8886-00000C689A6E2B47.jpg)
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Indygenerallee on September 27, 2012, 11:46:19 PM
OOooooooooo Pretty!!  :cheers:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Patronus on September 27, 2012, 11:52:50 PM
I agree. From the pics it looks to fit REAL well. Are you planning frame connectors?
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Indygenerallee on September 27, 2012, 11:59:23 PM
Gotta install a set of US cartool connectors! (might get mine installed one day!)
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Fred on September 28, 2012, 12:28:05 AM
Definitely a good idea. I got mine from XV.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on September 28, 2012, 12:32:15 AM
Quote from: Patronus on September 27, 2012, 11:52:50 PM
I agree. From the pics it looks to fit REAL well. Are you planning frame connectors?

Yep, If you look in the pics you can see the drivers side that I installed prior to deciding I needed to replace the floor..... whoops. Talk about a pain in the ass getting the old floor ground off of that.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Patronus on September 28, 2012, 12:52:48 AM
Dooh  :slap:
sorry missed that pic.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: AirborneSilva on September 28, 2012, 04:00:21 AM
Lookin good  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: lexxman on September 28, 2012, 07:15:04 PM
It's looking great,gotta love new sheet metal. The fit on the crossmember look nice,should weld together nicely. :2thumbs:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: b5blue on September 28, 2012, 07:20:13 PM
Looking real good there Ryan!  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on September 28, 2012, 08:00:50 PM
Thanks guys.
I was able to get the blasting done on the inner rockers and such so hopefully I'll spray some epoxy tonight and get the floor welded over the weekend.  :cheers:

Oh ya. Also just scored a NOS front valance.... Cant wait to fit that up. The AMD one is ok... Better than the goodmark one I used to have but every part that touches the fenders needs to be sliced and welded.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on October 05, 2012, 06:37:32 PM
Floor is in  :icon_smile_big:

It's going to need some lovin at the front of the torsion bar crossmember but all and all it fits well. Pics soon.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on October 06, 2012, 11:57:52 AM
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/CCDF1D6F-4333-4104-8A2C-B58C911B4CB6-15707-0000157C9BA96D31.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/A39810AF-D00E-4F04-80C6-1ABC515B74FB-15707-0000157C95E9CBA2.jpg)
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: b5blue on October 06, 2012, 12:10:02 PM
 :2thumbs: Now yer cooking!
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on October 06, 2012, 06:51:36 PM
FedEx just dropped off my front valance  :icon_smile_big:

Looks to be a near mint factory replacement part with one paint job on it. Still has the part number stamped on the inside. May as well be NOS as far as I'm concerned

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/E77F9FA1-412F-473D-ADE2-937489B4139D-15951-0000159050F881BA.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/9F69764A-EF2B-4A78-93CB-1835DC32B790-15951-000015904BE60B90.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/6A255171-2621-435B-A59F-D30845FF03C7-15951-00001590470095F4.jpg)
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: charger_fan_4ever on October 10, 2012, 10:58:44 AM
Quote from: Ryan on October 05, 2012, 06:37:32 PM
Floor is in  :icon_smile_big:

It's going to need some lovin at the front of the torsion bar crossmember but all and all it fits well. Pics soon.

Yup mine needed love in the same spot. Thought it may have been from having the torsion bars still in. Guess not.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on October 25, 2012, 11:02:34 PM
Not much progress but I did get this in the mail today.

NOS rear valance.

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/B1DF7D3B-5713-4378-BB2C-C3294A0C1330-1259-0000013B80BC82D5.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/F82FDAA4-E08D-4302-B255-7C64736C5F54-1259-0000013B844303B2.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/C23AB2A6-27B3-463A-B8E2-8D0E4C651DBB-1259-0000013B8C3EBFDA.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/20B33859-C75D-4F2B-8AF3-54B6CC4ECE75-1259-0000013B8807B52A.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/0F416F85-3C6F-41AE-8ED4-59409C187041-1259-0000013B8FBC9822.jpg)

I just couldn't turn down the chance to have this over the repro stuff. Also have a NOS tail panel on the way.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on October 26, 2012, 02:45:27 PM
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/B06AEAD0-63FA-4241-AE1C-8E5E52AA4991-2004-00000230A6EBE724.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/DC1C1904-B132-4CDA-BAEA-DD30726ABE27-2004-00000230A0009DA7.jpg)
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: AirborneSilva on October 26, 2012, 03:31:41 PM
Good score  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on October 27, 2012, 08:27:33 PM
Just a quick mock up of the valance. The fit is excellent, just as it should be. Just need to push the corners in just a hair more to fill in the gap but I am more than happy with this purchase.

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/C66F14B2-37C5-466A-B677-22D6337C1A3F-3081-000003687FFB983D.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/8643C092-4DEB-4A89-8C9D-91CE13EFFDDB-3081-00000368779C09D0.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/50CA9139-CE68-42C2-963B-36E6B95D42CE-3081-00000368733BF704.jpg)


Mounted the most important item haha.

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/F8A8FDCC-0256-41C9-8CDC-F8A9BE5D3304-3081-000003685FFC1D58.jpg)
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: lexxman on October 28, 2012, 01:53:30 PM
It all looks like it fitting well. :2thumbs:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: charger_fan_4ever on October 29, 2012, 12:16:23 PM
Maybe yu should send it to amd so they can try the valance again lol.

Am I dreaming r wasn't all amd metal "supposed" to have been copied from NOS ?
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on October 29, 2012, 03:06:46 PM
Quote from: charger_fan_4ever on October 29, 2012, 12:16:23 PM
Maybe yu should send it to amd so they can try the valance again lol.

Am I dreaming r wasn't all amd metal "supposed" to have been copied from NOS ?

I would gladly let them use it if it wouldn't need to be in their possession for 6+ months

They say some of their products were made using NOS parts, but I know not all of them were.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Dino on October 29, 2012, 03:17:52 PM
Keep in mind that back then the tolerances were much greater than they are now.  Two identical pieces would not necessarily be identical at all.

Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: charger_fan_4ever on October 29, 2012, 07:01:21 PM
How bad is the amd side by side with the nos piece ? top bend looks way better than the AMD piece.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: tan top on October 29, 2012, 07:13:07 PM
 :2thumbs:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on November 05, 2012, 12:01:34 PM
Quote from: charger_fan_4ever on October 29, 2012, 07:01:21 PM
How bad is the amd side by side with the nos piece ? top bend looks way better than the AMD piece.

There really is no comparison. This NOS piece fits perfectly and is not going to need one bit of tweaking. I'll give AMD credit, they got the revised valance alot closer then their original attempt but its still got a ways to go. I wish I could send this to them to give them a better part to make theirs off of but I just cant let it go for that long.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ghoste on November 05, 2012, 12:06:32 PM
Interesting, I hope they get it right eventually.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on November 19, 2012, 05:07:05 PM
Not much progress lately, been working to much.

But it does have a 4 speed hump welded in finally.

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/6BEA89A7-D23B-43C9-BB4F-1A1F5C06DBF3-2964-0000045EAB1D7A4B.jpg)
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: tan top on November 19, 2012, 05:47:56 PM
looking good  :cheers: :popcrn:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on November 23, 2012, 03:52:45 PM
Tail panel showed up in the mail today  :icon_smile_big:

I'll be busy doing my final adjustment and getting the NOS valance and NOS tail welded in this weekend.
Couple pics. Note that I leterally just tossed this on and clamped it I did not do any fitting whatsoever on either part.
The fit is much better then the AMD part IMO.

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/208FB007-2B0F-447B-BE2B-44099E86F1C9-6707-0000074D95D60A1C.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/AF98C7BB-90B3-4C09-9BD2-DB338E64B7B8-6707-0000074D92A11419.jpg)
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on December 03, 2012, 09:55:45 PM
Was happy with how it fit after some minor tweaking of the corners, test fit the tail panel to make sure everything lined up well and then got the spot welder out.


(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/3C8DDC85-7EE1-4899-8F02-5EDBB1E91EF6-1686-00000268C83C0B7E.jpg)

Trunk not latched all the way in this pic.
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/D27AFF7A-2E50-4D89-97AA-2E7CF1E8F68D-1686-00000268C3CE817A.jpg)

Should be able to weld the tailpanel, trunk latch support, gutters ect.... in over the next couple days. After that I'll takle the roof and then the metal work is finished :cheers:
So far I am thrilled with how this is starting to come together, spent a little more than I had wanted to but oh well.... I'm not doing this car again so it's getting done right.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: b5blue on December 04, 2012, 06:39:26 AM
Real Nice Ryan!  :2thumbs: I'm patching and repairing in the same rear areas on my 70 and it's a PIA.  :eek2:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: charger_fan_4ever on December 04, 2012, 09:11:39 AM
I hear ya about the little more time involved, but like you said do it once and do it right. Cost double to take short cuts in the long run.

Lookin good.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on December 04, 2012, 08:17:15 PM
Decided against using the AMD trunk latch support and repaired my original instead. My reasoning was that the latch support AMD sells is for a 68, 69 is different. 68 has 2 access holes below that latch and 69 has 3.

My original support was in good shape except for where it welds to the trunk pan so I sliced that off, sliced the bottom off the new AMD part and welded together. Turned out nice. It'll just need a tiny dab of filler to smooth it out.

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/A68ABA34-CF1D-44A8-8E99-BC8595EA9A53-2537-000003695F8E442B.jpg)

Primer
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/EFC89D7E-F1A1-48A7-88CA-137AF9DE3E3D-2537-000003695BFD203F.jpg)
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: MRCHARGER on December 04, 2012, 10:25:55 PM
Can't wait to see the difference in how the taillights fit. NOS or OE is the best way to go in that area of the Charger. Looks great!
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on December 05, 2012, 01:32:56 AM
Quote from: MRCHARGER on December 04, 2012, 10:25:55 PM
Can't wait to see the difference in how the taillights fit. NOS or OE is the best way to go in that area of the Charger. Looks great!

Yes I am looking forward to that as well. I need to salvage the buckets off of my original panel and spot weld them onto the new panel. Hopefully I can do that this weekend.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: charger_fan_4ever on December 05, 2012, 12:47:57 PM
It seemed the AMD tailpanel itself was ok on my 70. It fit pretty good. It was just the buckets that were way wrong.
Did you have other issues witht he AMD one ?


If they just sold the pan with the buckets off and you put them on yourself would be easier than having to cut it up to rework them.
:Twocents:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on December 05, 2012, 01:25:02 PM
Quote from: charger_fan_4ever on December 05, 2012, 12:47:57 PM
It seemed the AMD tailpanel itself was ok on my 70. It fit pretty good. It was just the buckets that were way wrong.
Did you have other issues witht he AMD one ?


If they just sold the pan with the buckets off and you put them on yourself would be easier than having to cut it up to rework them.
:Twocents:

Over all I'd say the fit was good. The problems I noticed other than the bucket positioning was the openings them selves did not match the taillights. The curved area on the bottom was way off.
The other thing I noticed although a minor issue but worth noting was the panel is cut a little short where it meets with the trunk gutters.

I agree they should sell them without the buckets welded in.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on December 09, 2012, 09:15:44 PM
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/45724F56-BF47-4C51-9692-A1AA1F954CD5-7084-0000084C858B14FB.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/90FC97A4-CB07-45C1-BF4B-825FFF28C5DB-7084-0000084C79531036.jpg)
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: RIDGERACER383 on December 14, 2012, 07:35:19 PM
Amazing work..Going with the NOS pays off big time.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on December 14, 2012, 11:54:45 PM
Quote from: RIDGERACER383 on December 14, 2012, 07:35:19 PM
Amazing work..Going with the NOS pays off big time.

Thank you. Yes it does.

Quote from: MRCHARGER on December 04, 2012, 10:25:55 PM
Can't wait to see the difference in how the taillights fit. NOS or OE is the best way to go in that area of the Charger. Looks great!

Just got the buckets back from the blaster this morning. Should get spot welded in tomorrow AM. Test fitting looked perfect.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: BB1 on December 15, 2012, 06:58:50 AM
 :popcrn:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on December 16, 2012, 06:19:59 PM
Driver side, I think i just need to raise it a tiny bit and I'll be happy. I'd say the fit is as good as it was when it left the factory. Its a little tight on the inside corner but it was with the original panel as well.

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/3D986D29-1135-44F4-9754-069B5A0B6B38-692-0000011E5427A690.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/F549A954-6223-44F5-AEB5-5A17D0C59400-692-0000011EABC63150.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/DF9402CB-685E-4BE6-9C72-89CECD0257AE-692-0000011E4F5B2F42.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/B1914992-688F-43D8-AAEB-28648596A0F4-683-0000011D8B3A91EC.jpg)
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Patronus on December 16, 2012, 08:59:33 PM
You make me want to restore another Charger. 
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on December 17, 2012, 11:09:53 AM
Quote from: Patronus on December 16, 2012, 08:59:33 PM
You make me want to restore another Charger. 

Your welcome. :icon_smile_big:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: lexxman on December 18, 2012, 06:51:18 PM
It's looking good Ryan. That spot welder looks like the one I have at work . It's a miller 220v ?
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on December 18, 2012, 10:16:52 PM
Quote from: lexxman on December 18, 2012, 06:51:18 PM
It's looking good Ryan. That spot welder looks like the one I have at work . It's a miller 220v ?


Yep, that's the one.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: bsakal on December 31, 2012, 08:12:04 PM
Great job!!!!
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: MedPhys on January 01, 2013, 11:54:26 AM
How much welding experience do you have? I have zero welding experience and want to gauge if this is something i can do.   Like you, I have had this car since I was a teenager, and now the I have the means to take on the project.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: MRCHARGER on January 01, 2013, 11:54:40 PM
the fitment looks great from those pictures. Very nice work.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on January 02, 2013, 02:00:08 AM
Quote from: MedPhys on January 01, 2013, 11:54:26 AM
How much welding experience do you have? I have zero welding experience and want to gauge if this is something i can do.   Like you, I have had this car since I was a teenager, and now the I have the means to take on the project.

I have been playing with welding for 11 years now (since I was 16) that being said welding is not rocket science, anyone can do it.
My advise would be to buy a good 220V mig welder and get some scrap metal to play with. The MIG will do just about anything you would need for the project. Dont get me wrong my TIG and spot welder get used to and make life easier but they are not mandatory.

If you decide to take on a project like this make sure you measure EVERYTHING before you start removing panels. Take your time and be patient and you'll be OK.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on January 02, 2013, 02:00:39 AM
Quote from: MRCHARGER on January 01, 2013, 11:54:40 PM
the fitment looks great from those pictures. Very nice work.

Thanks, I am very pleased. The work is really starting to pay off.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: MedPhys on January 02, 2013, 09:13:33 AM
I'm amazed by how much you have done to your car.  It seems like it is getting harder and harder to find solid charger bodies.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Dino on January 02, 2013, 09:17:00 AM
Quote from: MedPhys on January 02, 2013, 09:13:33 AM
I'm amazed by how much you have done to your car.  It seems like it is getting harder and harder to find solid charger bodies.

It's all relative.  I've never seen a Charger without rust.  These things started rusting on the showroom floor. 

With any Charger be prepared to replace, partially or in full, trunk floor, rear quarters, front and rear windshield gutters, rockers.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: MedPhys on January 02, 2013, 09:26:09 AM
QuoteWith any Charger be prepared to replace, partially or in full, trunk floor, rear quarters, front and rear windshield gutters, rockers.

So true.

Well OP, I'm impressed with the work to say the least.  This thread has really fired me up to take on the project.  Thanks for posting your progress
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: MRCHARGER on January 02, 2013, 11:58:20 PM
I remember when my project was at that point. It's the most tedious work you'll ever do. It seems like you'll never be on the road but then one day, you're laying black marks on the street in front of your house.

That is going to be one awesome Charger when you get it finished my friend. It's obvious you want it right and will stand for nothing less!

I am enjoying your updates, looking forward to the next.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: mauve66 on January 04, 2013, 08:01:25 PM
Quote from: Ryan on January 02, 2013, 02:00:08 AM
Quote from: MedPhys on January 01, 2013, 11:54:26 AM
How much welding experience do you have? I have zero welding experience and want to gauge if this is something i can do.   Like you, I have had this car since I was a teenager, and now the I have the means to take on the project.

I have been playing with welding for 11 years now (since I was 16) that being said welding is not rocket science, anyone can do it.
My advise would be to buy a good 220V mig welder and get some scrap metal to play with. The MIG will do just about anything you would need for the project. Dont get me wrong my TIG and spot welder get used to and make life easier but they are not mandatory.

If you decide to take on a project like this make sure you measure EVERYTHING before you start removing panels. Take your time and be patient and you'll be OK.

so you have to run a 220 outlet in the garage??  or does it have 2 cords for 2  110 outlets, ok, that was silly but do the welders have to be 220v??  my garage no have
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: cdr on January 04, 2013, 09:07:19 PM
Quote from: mauve66 on January 04, 2013, 08:01:25 PM
Quote from: Ryan on January 02, 2013, 02:00:08 AM
Quote from: MedPhys on January 01, 2013, 11:54:26 AM
How much welding experience do you have? I have zero welding experience and want to gauge if this is something i can do.   Like you, I have had this car since I was a teenager, and now the I have the means to take on the project.

I have been playing with welding for 11 years now (since I was 16) that being said welding is not rocket science, anyone can do it.
My advise would be to buy a good 220V mig welder and get some scrap metal to play with. The MIG will do just about anything you would need for the project. Dont get me wrong my TIG and spot welder get used to and make life easier but they are not mandatory.

If you decide to take on a project like this make sure you measure EVERYTHING before you start removing panels. Take your time and be patient and you'll be OK.

so you have to run a 220 outlet in the garage??  or does it have 2 cords for 2  110 outlets, ok, that was silly but do the welders have to be 220v??  my garage no have
depending on your clothes dryer location,in my old house i made an extension cord with a dryer plug on one end & female welder plug on the other
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: 69rtse4spd on January 04, 2013, 10:30:44 PM
Looking da*n good  :2thumbs:, glad your happy with the tail light panel. Seeing how the AMD valance's & tail panels fit , glad I have mine. Yes AMD might have used N.O.S. pieces to copy, but as said before, no two were the same. Unless you were to get two that were stamped one right after the other. Here at the plant over in body shop they make miner changes to the jigs all the time. Granted we are not a stamping plant but we spot weld the sheet metal together that we get from them. And trust me, they do vary. AMD & all the others have done a great service the hobby, even if we have to do some tweaks now & then. Keep up the great work, it is inspiring. :2thumbs:.     
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: 69rtse4spd on January 04, 2013, 10:37:05 PM
  When you weld in the torsion bar mount, could you put the t-bars in to help line everthing up or not worry.  :shruggy:. Not put anything under load, just line up side to side, more centered with the front end.   
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: mauve66 on January 05, 2013, 10:54:49 AM
Quote from: cdr on January 04, 2013, 09:07:19 PM
Quote from: mauve66 on January 04, 2013, 08:01:25 PM
Quote from: Ryan on January 02, 2013, 02:00:08 AM
Quote from: MedPhys on January 01, 2013, 11:54:26 AM
How much welding experience do you have? I have zero welding experience and want to gauge if this is something i can do.   Like you, I have had this car since I was a teenager, and now the I have the means to take on the project.

I have been playing with welding for 11 years now (since I was 16) that being said welding is not rocket science, anyone can do it.
My advise would be to buy a good 220V mig welder and get some scrap metal to play with. The MIG will do just about anything you would need for the project. Dont get me wrong my TIG and spot welder get used to and make life easier but they are not mandatory.

If you decide to take on a project like this make sure you measure EVERYTHING before you start removing panels. Take your time and be patient and you'll be OK.

so you have to run a 220 outlet in the garage??  or does it have 2 cords for 2  110 outlets, ok, that was silly but do the welders have to be 220v??  my garage no have
depending on your clothes dryer location,in my old house i made an extension cord with a dryer plug on one end & female welder plug on the other

we have a gas dryer but i don't remember what's behind there, maybe there is a plug??  I guess code would require one since the builder never knows what appliance you will install, i will have to look.
i tried renting a welder from home depot years ago when i did my exhaust but i kept burning through the pipe.  by the time i realized  the metal was going to melt together my reaction was too slow and it burned through, my enighbor finaly got tired of watching and just cobbled it together for my but it looks ugly as sin.  as a matter of fact i just ripped it out so i could pull the motor and trans.  maybe i'll try to practice again.  always wanted to learn
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: JB400 on January 05, 2013, 10:59:09 AM
Quote from: 69rtse4spd on January 04, 2013, 10:37:05 PM
  When you weld in the torsion bar mount, could you put the t-bars in to help line everthing up or not worry.  :shruggy:. Not put anything under load, just line up side to side, more centered with the front end.   
It would be a good idea. :2thumbs: Anything that is removable should be temperarily reinstalled to make sure everything lines up properly.  If not, it might cause you headaches later.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on January 16, 2013, 03:57:06 PM
On to the roof finally.
Got the old cut off. It went much quicker than I thought it would. Inner structure looks great. Just need to clean it up and shoot it with epoxy.
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/BBC3B3CC-C56E-4657-B69A-1BB8AE4BD264-8076-000008B648769CD2.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/FA3199D0-A8E2-49E0-9E9E-B932EF96361A-8076-000008B645372486.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/EFEFF4AA-2B9E-42F7-8472-23AC4212014C-8076-000008B63F5E4D9A.jpg)



Test fit of the skin.

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/72475292-DA9E-4AE2-A169-1AB294D012A1-8076-000008B65212358F.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/314F09AB-CA08-4F45-A419-4D7F4F27757A-8076-000008B64F30BDAE.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/D6B27312-1726-492F-85D8-F7AFCC2E6D85-8076-000008B64BB539CC.jpg)

Initial fit is better than I expected. It is going to need some trimming here and there but other than that it looks good.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on January 16, 2013, 04:49:48 PM
Some more pics after some clamping.

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/32797E57-8865-40AD-A91C-200345CCBF8A-8128-000008B8FD3A34AE.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/59B742A7-C692-4EB0-B1AF-2199E25E80C9-8128-000008B900DD807F.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/4751CB20-FE8C-41AA-A9DC-DD55886E777C-8128-000008B9047F1E99.jpg)
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Dino on January 17, 2013, 07:34:58 AM
I see someone had some fun with a paint pen.   :icon_smile_big:

Looks real good Ryan, very nice work.   :yesnod:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: lexxman on January 17, 2013, 06:32:46 PM
The car is looking great,it's going to be just like having a new car with all the new sheet metal. :2thumbs:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on February 06, 2013, 11:34:13 AM
finally had some time to spray primer on the inner structure and the inside of the roof skin.

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/2B864B95-885E-498C-97F0-14EA4D20214B-1920-000001F3D95887CA_zps31613b9e.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/9A3624E7-91A1-426D-8519-8BFF00258A23-1920-000001F3D490180C_zps343cb8db.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/FB2CFF65-CE7F-41D9-990D-6218BB2DFDF7-1920-000001F3C8B7C3BB_zps5227a1ba.jpg)
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: lexxman on February 06, 2013, 09:32:50 PM
It's looking great Ryan. When do you think you'll put the roof on? And are going to lead the joints or use filler?
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on February 06, 2013, 11:47:53 PM
Quote from: lexxman on February 06, 2013, 09:32:50 PM
It's looking great Ryan. When do you think you'll put the roof on? And are going to lead the joints or use filler?

Hopefully this weekend. I need to go buy more vice grips.
All and all it's fitting great. It's the best part from AMD I have worked with.
Just needed a little trimming on the edges, a little finessing on the rear corners and it will need a little work on the two short legs that weld onto the a-pillar.

I plan to lead the seams.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Dino on February 07, 2013, 07:34:41 AM
You can never have enough vise grips.   :yesnod:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: charger_fan_4ever on February 07, 2013, 12:49:52 PM
Did you have to massage the rear C pillars up where they curve ?

We had to use a block of wood and a BFH. A little trim on each side. Wasn't the worst fitting part.

Trunk floor was the best fit on mine.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on February 07, 2013, 01:18:07 PM
Quote from: charger_fan_4ever on February 07, 2013, 12:49:52 PM
Did you have to massage the rear C pillars up where they curve ?

We had to use a block of wood and a BFH. A little trim on each side. Wasn't the worst fitting part.

Trunk floor was the best fit on mine.

I just had to bend them out a little because they were to tight at the top of the quarters and prevented the skin from sitting down. Bending them caused the window channel to bend so I had to straighten that out. 
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: SuperbeastVan on February 08, 2013, 03:17:26 PM
Been checking out your postings for a couple of weeks now.  I must say you are doing a tremendous job!   :2thumbs:  I'm doing the rear end of a 69 for someone right now and your pictures have helped a bunch.  One of the biggest issues I'm having is like you did, with parts that don't fit worth a crap.  The car I'm doing needed frame rails and all and although the rails and the spring mounts fit well, the rear gas tank support rail fits 'B' bodies and seems to have completely different ends than what I see on your car.  It's also missing the holes for the back up lights.  I've modified it some, but may have to take more off of it. 

Nice work on the corner pieces too.  I still have some messing with them to do. 

One question for you, If possible can you post a picture or two of how the trunk floor extensions meet up with the back edge of the car inside the trunk?  The ones that I was given came from Year One and they are about 3" too long for the car.  I've modified the passenger side to get it in, but it still seems way out of shape to fit the new quarters on.  The driver side extension is similar and almost seems like it's about an inch too wide also.  Thanks if you can!

My latest issue with parts is the owner got the quarters from Year One and one was made by Authentic Restorations and fits perfectly and has all the right contours but the panel for the passenger side is made by C.H.L. Auto Parts and is junk!  It's not much more than a patch panel.  It's stamped out of thin metal and has none of the contours for the tail light trip panel and it is cut off where it's supposed to flow into the rocker panel.  It's amazing to me that they could try and pass them off as a pair of quarters.

Anyway, sorry for the long winded post.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on February 13, 2013, 01:03:17 AM
Quote from: SuperbeastVan on February 08, 2013, 03:17:26 PM
Been checking out your postings for a couple of weeks now.  I must say you are doing a tremendous job!   :2thumbs:  I'm doing the rear end of a 69 for someone right now and your pictures have helped a bunch.  One of the biggest issues I'm having is like you did, with parts that don't fit worth a crap.  The car I'm doing needed frame rails and all and although the rails and the spring mounts fit well, the rear gas tank support rail fits 'B' bodies and seems to have completely different ends than what I see on your car.  It's also missing the holes for the back up lights.  I've modified it some, but may have to take more off of it. 

Nice work on the corner pieces too.  I still have some messing with them to do. 

One question for you, If possible can you post a picture or two of how the trunk floor extensions meet up with the back edge of the car inside the trunk?  The ones that I was given came from Year One and they are about 3" too long for the car.  I've modified the passenger side to get it in, but it still seems way out of shape to fit the new quarters on.  The driver side extension is similar and almost seems like it's about an inch too wide also.  Thanks if you can!

My latest issue with parts is the owner got the quarters from Year One and one was made by Authentic Restorations and fits perfectly and has all the right contours but the panel for the passenger side is made by C.H.L. Auto Parts and is junk!  It's not much more than a patch panel.  It's stamped out of thin metal and has none of the contours for the tail light trip panel and it is cut off where it's supposed to flow into the rocker panel.  It's amazing to me that they could try and pass them off as a pair of quarters.

Anyway, sorry for the long winded post.

Thanks, glad I could help.
I will take pics of the extensions for you. I dont think I have any right now.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on February 13, 2013, 01:05:28 AM
Roof is welded on :cheers:  although most of the pics still show clamps in place.

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/8E7C3A92-D142-4098-8E35-1D45A4402C51-3753-000004E31D1A48D2_zps19974d52.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/0359E022-E6A9-41B3-891C-6F8F84294D2D-3753-000004E319B6ED27_zps66d4aee6.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/8F42446D-0441-4304-B540-644BEBA89E4D-3753-000004E30F98ACF1_zpsd73219ce.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/39F8BB34-FB92-48A1-8C88-B89FD78024C5-3753-000004E3128E75E1_zps9d46ef3c.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/D69303AA-8FB3-4A7D-9559-D30B25337A5E-3753-000004E30BC217C5_zps3756fa23.jpg)

Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: JB400 on February 13, 2013, 02:44:08 AM
Looks good :drool5:  Just looking at how much metal you replaced, did your metal supplier send you a Christmas card last year? :lol:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: tan top on February 13, 2013, 04:39:03 AM
 :coolgleamA: looking good !  :cheers:   :popcrn:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: mauve66 on February 13, 2013, 05:20:14 PM
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on February 13, 2013, 02:44:08 AM
Looks good :drool5:  Just looking at how much metal you replaced, did your metal supplier send you a Christmas card last year? :lol:

or post card from his cruise??
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on February 18, 2013, 01:46:38 PM
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on February 13, 2013, 02:44:08 AM
Looks good :drool5:  Just looking at how much metal you replaced, did your metal supplier send you a Christmas card last year? :lol:

Haha,  I'd be curious what the profit margin on this stuff is.  I got killer pricing on this stuff from "elite custom body."
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: SuperbeastVan on February 22, 2013, 01:09:42 PM
Quote from: Ryan on February 13, 2013, 01:03:17 AM
Quote from: SuperbeastVan on February 08, 2013, 03:17:26 PM
Been checking out your postings for a couple of weeks now.  I must say you are doing a tremendous job!   :2thumbs:  I'm doing the rear end of a 69 for someone right now and your pictures have helped a bunch.  One of the biggest issues I'm having is like you did, with parts that don't fit worth a crap.  The car I'm doing needed frame rails and all and although the rails and the spring mounts fit well, the rear gas tank support rail fits 'B' bodies and seems to have completely different ends than what I see on your car.  It's also missing the holes for the back up lights.  I've modified it some, but may have to take more off of it. 

Nice work on the corner pieces too.  I still have some messing with them to do. 

One question for you, If possible can you post a picture or two of how the trunk floor extensions meet up with the back edge of the car inside the trunk?  The ones that I was given came from Year One and they are about 3" too long for the car.  I've modified the passenger side to get it in, but it still seems way out of shape to fit the new quarters on.  The driver side extension is similar and almost seems like it's about an inch too wide also.  Thanks if you can!

My latest issue with parts is the owner got the quarters from Year One and one was made by Authentic Restorations and fits perfectly and has all the right contours but the panel for the passenger side is made by C.H.L. Auto Parts and is junk!  It's not much more than a patch panel.  It's stamped out of thin metal and has none of the contours for the tail light trip panel and it is cut off where it's supposed to flow into the rocker panel.  It's amazing to me that they could try and pass them off as a pair of quarters.

Anyway, sorry for the long winded post.

Thanks, glad I could help.
I will take pics of the extensions for you. I dont think I have any right now.

I was able to get what I needed from the old rotted ones I took off to modify the new ones so I won't be needing the pictures. Thanks anyway!
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on April 30, 2013, 12:28:59 PM
Sorry for the lack of updates everyone.
I moved shortly after installing the roof.  The new house has been taking up most of my time but I am finally almost in the position to get back at the charger.  Got my air compressor wired in yesterday, hopefully finish up my 50AMP 220 circuit for my welder then I'll be good to go.  I cant wait to get this thing in primer and on the rotisserie.  

The chargers new home
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/D85A286B-4F17-4B61-9288-5E9006AE7AE5-2882-000003DEC9A57985_zpsc2c7027c.jpg) (http://s17.photobucket.com/user/69dodgecharger/media/D85A286B-4F17-4B61-9288-5E9006AE7AE5-2882-000003DEC9A57985_zpsc2c7027c.jpg.html)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/2D787665-FDD2-448D-AC38-FA8085E6ECDE-2882-000003DEC5BBA2FD_zps57458efd.jpg) (http://s17.photobucket.com/user/69dodgecharger/media/2D787665-FDD2-448D-AC38-FA8085E6ECDE-2882-000003DEC5BBA2FD_zps57458efd.jpg.html)

Would have liked the 80gal but it was to large.... Oh well 60 will do.
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/CEB4E17C-24BB-4496-90A9-E789073CD9C5-2882-000003E19CBB2B80_zps33fc44d1.jpg) (http://s17.photobucket.com/user/69dodgecharger/media/CEB4E17C-24BB-4496-90A9-E789073CD9C5-2882-000003E19CBB2B80_zps33fc44d1.jpg.html)



Also spent a good amount of time working on the garage itself. Installed recessed T8 fixtures for work lights and 6" cans for garage opener lights for the side of the garage that the lift goes in.
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/FA79FC64-188B-4718-85C9-76CA0AE69FEC-2882-000003E1E8517F5C_zpsf35c7a64.jpg) (http://s17.photobucket.com/user/69dodgecharger/media/FA79FC64-188B-4718-85C9-76CA0AE69FEC-2882-000003E1E8517F5C_zpsf35c7a64.jpg.html)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/FFA6504F-2A69-4566-9602-3F36A5231727-2882-000003E1ECBDDC54_zps54b6b5dc.jpg) (http://s17.photobucket.com/user/69dodgecharger/media/FFA6504F-2A69-4566-9602-3F36A5231727-2882-000003E1ECBDDC54_zps54b6b5dc.jpg.html)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/E1FD6851-8410-44AE-9654-9BFD19D8A76B-2882-000003E1F08C08F8_zpscd0f6a54.jpg) (http://s17.photobucket.com/user/69dodgecharger/media/E1FD6851-8410-44AE-9654-9BFD19D8A76B-2882-000003E1F08C08F8_zpscd0f6a54.jpg.html)

Did the other door to for the hell of it.  Its nice to have the extra overhead space.
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/8A034A25-4EFB-4F7A-AD43-430EC935FE28-2882-000003E1E51BD910_zps0d627889.jpg) (http://s17.photobucket.com/user/69dodgecharger/media/8A034A25-4EFB-4F7A-AD43-430EC935FE28-2882-000003E1E51BD910_zps0d627889.jpg.html)
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: JB400 on April 30, 2013, 12:58:27 PM
Congrats on the new crib :cheers:  Looks like your close to getting back to work :popcrn:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: mauve66 on April 30, 2013, 07:02:24 PM
nice to have the garage openers out of the way for the lift, never seen them any place but in the way :brickwall:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: lexxman on April 30, 2013, 09:29:19 PM
That looks like it will be a very nice place once your all moved in. :2thumbs:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on February 15, 2014, 06:39:11 PM
bringing this back from the dead. Ive finally got to working on the car again. Mostly minor slicing and welding to fix gaps and whatnot.  My rotisserie is also on order, cant wait for that.  Off topic from paint and body but these just showed up today. Can anyone guess what they are for?  :scratchchin:


(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/46D3D15B-137B-40BA-82E0-50E94AC9D124_zpsbmpvrdsf.jpg) (http://s17.photobucket.com/user/69dodgecharger/media/46D3D15B-137B-40BA-82E0-50E94AC9D124_zpsbmpvrdsf.jpg.html)
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Charger-Bodie on February 15, 2014, 07:05:10 PM
HEMI!
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on February 15, 2014, 07:14:17 PM
Quote from: Charger-Bodie on February 15, 2014, 07:05:10 PM
HEMI!


Bingo! We have a winner
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Charger-Bodie on February 15, 2014, 08:40:33 PM
Quote from: Ryan on February 15, 2014, 07:14:17 PM
Quote from: Charger-Bodie on February 15, 2014, 07:05:10 PM
HEMI!


Bingo! We have a winner

TTI218 ?

I just got me a set of used ones on eBay ,just showed up Thursday.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on February 15, 2014, 09:07:45 PM
Quote from: Charger-Bodie on February 15, 2014, 08:40:33 PM
Quote from: Ryan on February 15, 2014, 07:14:17 PM
Quote from: Charger-Bodie on February 15, 2014, 07:05:10 PM
HEMI!


Bingo! We have a winner

TTI218 ?

I just got me a set of used ones on eBay ,just showed up Thursday.

Nice, you putting a hemi in one of your cars or going to start a new build?

These are TTI214
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Charger-Bodie on February 15, 2014, 09:17:54 PM
Quote from: Ryan on February 15, 2014, 09:07:45 PM
Quote from: Charger-Bodie on February 15, 2014, 08:40:33 PM
Quote from: Ryan on February 15, 2014, 07:14:17 PM
Quote from: Charger-Bodie on February 15, 2014, 07:05:10 PM
HEMI!


Bingo! We have a winner

TTI218 ?

I just got me a set of used ones on eBay ,just showed up Thursday.

Nice, you putting a hemi in one of your cars or going to start a new build?

These are TTI214

Bought a f8 green 69 R/T 4 speed car a couple months ago. I'm going to put my 472 in it.

What HEMI did you end up with?
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on February 15, 2014, 09:20:41 PM
Quote from: Charger-Bodie on February 15, 2014, 09:17:54 PM
Quote from: Ryan on February 15, 2014, 09:07:45 PM
Quote from: Charger-Bodie on February 15, 2014, 08:40:33 PM
Quote from: Ryan on February 15, 2014, 07:14:17 PM
Quote from: Charger-Bodie on February 15, 2014, 07:05:10 PM
HEMI!


Bingo! We have a winner

TTI218 ?

I just got me a set of used ones on eBay ,just showed up Thursday.

Nice, you putting a hemi in one of your cars or going to start a new build?

These are TTI214

Bought a f8 green 69 R/T 4 speed car a couple months ago. I'm going to put my 472 in it.

What HEMI did you end up with?

Oh cool.  I'm still gathering parts but it will be a 572 aluminum world block, stage V heads w/ a mild hydraulic roller.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Silver R/T on February 16, 2014, 12:09:26 PM
Making nice progress on Charger. Garage looks nice as well.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: paironines on February 16, 2014, 01:24:22 PM
Ryan, did you have an AMD, Goodmark, and NOS rear valance? It read that way in earlier posts. If so, which one was worse, the AMD or Goodmark?
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on February 16, 2014, 09:38:53 PM
They both had their ups and downs.  NOS fit like a glove.  The contour that goes under the bumper sucks on the AMD panel.  The goodmark was a little better in that area however it was missing all of the wire tabs, and the two mounting tabs on the underside.  The amd matched up to the valance corners better than the goodmark panel.  I know AMD was aware of the fitment issue and said they were working on making it better so may be worth a call to them and ask.

Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: six-tee-nine on February 19, 2014, 07:23:49 AM
I just put my AMD rear valance in place. It fits like a glove and meets the end caps "OK" but not perfect. I will need to fill the seam a bit to make it a bit smaller.
However the bend in the panel where the bumper sits above is horrible compared to my original panel. The curve is way not sharp enough. I know its under the bumper but the fact that i know its not like I want it means I'm going to cut/hammer/weld/grind the outer edges till its a little better.

I also have the idea that the panel bends inwards towards,the end caps. Too bad I cant compare it enough to my old panel since it was kinda banged up from a rear end collission...

however all in all I think the fitment is great and some additional body work is normal. Back in the days none of these bodys were the same....
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on February 19, 2014, 10:49:13 PM
Finally got this rear window corner taken care of.  Don think I have any pics of this before but it was off by about 1/2".  Its looking good now. Big relief as I was worried that this spot would never look right.

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/B1E0A991-2A66-485C-9418-777F0EB18C65_zps6tfl4jgc.jpg) (http://s17.photobucket.com/user/69dodgecharger/media/B1E0A991-2A66-485C-9418-777F0EB18C65_zps6tfl4jgc.jpg.html)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/E8B4DD41-7416-4A81-87F8-0B0C75C2C00A_zpspxyfaswd.jpg) (http://s17.photobucket.com/user/69dodgecharger/media/E8B4DD41-7416-4A81-87F8-0B0C75C2C00A_zpspxyfaswd.jpg.html)
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: six-tee-nine on February 20, 2014, 07:25:59 AM
Great job. You really have to testfit and reshape that part using the trim pieces. I did'nt use repop metal but fabbed my own pieces but did the same as you. It only needs minimal filler to get the corner smooth.
If you dont do this you could end up with ugly gaps when the car is painted.

Its ridiculously time consuming dont you agree? but probably worth it in the end.....
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on May 03, 2014, 11:06:12 PM
Picking up my rotisserie on Monday  :cheers:

Also just got these beauties from the ups guy  :drool5:


(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/C8493CC1-46D5-459F-AC4F-E4E373E70DB1_zps2brd6pao.jpg) (http://s17.photobucket.com/user/69dodgecharger/media/C8493CC1-46D5-459F-AC4F-E4E373E70DB1_zps2brd6pao.jpg.html)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/A570F235-B168-4780-B728-DFB6EB7CDF6B_zpsmd7tnpv1.jpg) (http://s17.photobucket.com/user/69dodgecharger/media/A570F235-B168-4780-B728-DFB6EB7CDF6B_zpsmd7tnpv1.jpg.html)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/AD434DDB-88E3-475F-A25F-E091240B861A_zpstjtguahz.jpg) (http://s17.photobucket.com/user/69dodgecharger/media/AD434DDB-88E3-475F-A25F-E091240B861A_zpstjtguahz.jpg.html)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/7220D1A1-90BC-4323-8D62-31E6C9A4EE5D_zpstzzmx3yw.jpg) (http://s17.photobucket.com/user/69dodgecharger/media/7220D1A1-90BC-4323-8D62-31E6C9A4EE5D_zpstzzmx3yw.jpg.html)

Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: six-tee-nine on May 06, 2014, 03:23:30 AM
Awesome!
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: tan top on May 06, 2014, 05:30:46 AM
 :drool5: :coolgleamA: :popcrn: :popcrn: :popcrn: :popcrn:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on May 28, 2014, 06:51:31 PM
Well after a 3 month wait my rotisserie finally arrived. Time to get back at it :icon_smile_big:



(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/8FB5D287-0753-4258-A6F2-6669B83846D3_zpsf5kakanz.jpg) (http://s17.photobucket.com/user/69dodgecharger/media/8FB5D287-0753-4258-A6F2-6669B83846D3_zpsf5kakanz.jpg.html)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/E1549F56-DDFA-4BA0-815D-E9E8F3C43F6F_zpsiiskr53b.jpg) (http://s17.photobucket.com/user/69dodgecharger/media/E1549F56-DDFA-4BA0-815D-E9E8F3C43F6F_zpsiiskr53b.jpg.html)
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: lexxman on June 03, 2014, 11:45:21 AM
thats cool. :2thumbs:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: nvrbdn on June 03, 2014, 11:54:32 AM
 :2thumbs: :cheers:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Silver R/T on June 03, 2014, 01:52:02 PM
Nice progress on Charger
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: six-tee-nine on June 03, 2014, 02:57:34 PM
It becomes a long piece isnt it when on a rotisserie?

I also have mine diagonally in my shop to be albe to close the shop door

Looks like a nice piece. Cant miss one of those imo when tackling a job like that. I had my first project car as a teenager almost 17 years ago on a set of wooden blocks wich was a real pain in the a*s to weld holes in the floors with all the weld spatter landing in your face. Wouldnt want to go back to that  ::)
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on June 03, 2014, 11:16:14 PM
Quote from: six-tee-nine on June 03, 2014, 02:57:34 PM
It becomes a long piece isnt it when on a rotisserie?

I also have mine diagonally in my shop to be albe to close the shop door

Looks like a nice piece. Cant miss one of those imo when tackling a job like that. I had my first project car as a teenager almost 17 years ago on a set of wooden blocks wich was a real pain in the a*s to weld holes in the floors with all the weld spatter landing in your face. Wouldnt want to go back to that  ::)

I love it.... wish I would have purchased one a long time ago.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on June 03, 2014, 11:17:15 PM
Cleaned up the welds on the frame connector. Looking good now

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/59DAF66A-F546-42A8-8DD0-2FA1DDB9FE11_zps3trtbty0.jpg) (http://s17.photobucket.com/user/69dodgecharger/media/59DAF66A-F546-42A8-8DD0-2FA1DDB9FE11_zps3trtbty0.jpg.html)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/AFC6652F-D923-4C95-ADD1-BCA4092E383E_zpsugjuavoh.jpg) (http://s17.photobucket.com/user/69dodgecharger/media/AFC6652F-D923-4C95-ADD1-BCA4092E383E_zpsugjuavoh.jpg.html)
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: lexxman on June 05, 2014, 11:49:17 AM
Looks good,Ryan. That's the same style of connectors I'm making for mine. I have the metal,now I just need to get off my ass and do it.
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: six-tee-nine on June 05, 2014, 01:13:33 PM
I ordered mine 3 days ago.

Problem is I'm on the wrong side of the atlantic so it will probably take another 2 weeks before I can put them in place.... :eyes:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: tan top on June 05, 2014, 06:00:14 PM
 :scope:     :2thumbs:  :popcrn:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on March 26, 2017, 12:10:32 PM
well after a 3 year break I am happy to say that i am back at this project.  :cheers:  updates to follow
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: cdr on March 26, 2017, 12:21:49 PM
 :2thumbs:  :popcrn: :popcrn:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: 68RT440 on March 26, 2017, 06:23:21 PM
Good to hear!
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Charger-Bodie on March 26, 2017, 07:18:01 PM
 :2thumbs:
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Ryan on March 26, 2017, 11:35:53 PM
Passion Performance A855 5 Speed  (waited 5 years for this)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/250D20C8-7DA9-4903-A612-42C8D9A92F42_zps9tued8nu.jpg) (http://s17.photobucket.com/user/69dodgecharger/media/250D20C8-7DA9-4903-A612-42C8D9A92F42_zps9tued8nu.jpg.html)


(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/69dodgecharger/BD74C41D-E3D3-465F-A5C5-168D0DAB5B59_zpswuxau1vx.jpg) (http://s17.photobucket.com/user/69dodgecharger/media/BD74C41D-E3D3-465F-A5C5-168D0DAB5B59_zpswuxau1vx.jpg.html)
Title: Re: No turning back from here.
Post by: Dino on March 27, 2017, 05:50:22 AM
A year per gear!   :lol:

That's gonna be a whole lotta fun.   :drive: