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Title: Look at this crap!!!!!
Post by: PocketThunder on June 03, 2010, 11:18:19 PM
Friggin mouse turds everywhere!!!!!!!!!   :RantExplode:    The car sat for some 20 years in a southern california garage and the mouse has a hotel running under the dash.  The little bastards crapped on every damned flat surface that was under the dash.  When i bought the car the smell didnt seem to be as noticeable, but maybe thats because i was in love with the car from first site and the dry southern california air doesnt bring out the smell like Minnesota's 80ยบ and 60% humidity.

It all started with the "whats that smell?"  Then i tried the blower motor and it didnt work.  So i pulled it out and thats when the snowball started rolling.  So after tearing out the heater box, i am 90% done with mouse crap abatement.  The carpet comes out next and then the whole car gets a good scrub down.

What do i use to clean this up?  Just scrub down the whole firewall and anywhere i can reach with a brush and a bottle of simple green?  The air box will get a complete rebuild thats for sure.

Paul
Title: Re: Look at this crap!!!!!
Post by: 69DodgeCharger on June 04, 2010, 04:49:21 AM
I don't kow if this will work in your case but I had to clean up a rental house of my moms that had a "cat" situation. I found this online and it seemed to work, although it took a few applications to do it. It was a mixture of bleach, water and vinegar. I can't remember the exact ratio though. As best as I recall the bleach is to kill the bacteria and the vinegar "neutralizes" the urine smell. Although we had to repaint and seal everything to actually completely get rid of the odor. You may have to do the same with the infested areas. Good Luck!
Title: Re: Look at this crap!!!!!
Post by: bobs66440 on June 04, 2010, 06:08:25 AM
Use a solution of bleach & water to kill the bacteria and virses. The mouse feces & urine potentially carry a lot of nasty stuff. Try to avoid breathing in the dust.
Title: Re: Look at this crap!!!!!
Post by: 69DodgeCharger on June 04, 2010, 06:38:43 AM
Quote from: bobs66440 on June 04, 2010, 06:08:25 AM
Use a solution of bleach & water to kill the bacteria and virses. The mouse feces & urine potentially carry a lot of nasty stuff. Try to avoid breathing in the dust.

Yep, you definately want to wear at least dust mask and gloves at all times.
Title: Re: Look at this crap!!!!!
Post by: khodne on June 04, 2010, 06:54:37 AM
I had the same problem.  Scent Block, for bow hunting. Worked on my seat foam, its been a couple of months and still no smell.   I also inserted a couple of Bounce sheets.
Title: Re: Look at this crap!!!!!
Post by: bill440rt on June 04, 2010, 07:00:18 AM
 :eek2:  :puke:

You can also try Spray Nine, it works well as a cleaner & disinfectant. Simple Green also makes a cleaner/disinfectant that's used in hospitals & such. I bought a gallon of it, I think right at the local Home Depot.
:Twocents:
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Post by: tan top on June 04, 2010, 07:03:33 AM
yuck !  :eek2: be a good idea to check every thing !! never know what they might of tried knoring :yesnod:
Title: Re: Look at this crap!!!!!
Post by: Foreman72 on June 04, 2010, 12:15:20 PM
i had an issue like that in my 91 BMW...it was incredibly annoying...everything i took out of the inside of that car gave way to a bigger mess and a worse smell... :rotz:
Title: Re: Look at this crap!!!!!
Post by: GPULLER on June 04, 2010, 12:49:00 PM
Cant be fixed...better hand the car over to me.
Title: Re: Look at this crap!!!!!
Post by: sixty8charger on June 04, 2010, 12:54:25 PM
Quote from: GPULLER on June 04, 2010, 12:49:00 PM
Cant be fixed...better hand the car over to me.

hahaha
Title: Re: Look at this crap!!!!!
Post by: PocketThunder on June 04, 2010, 01:08:47 PM
Quote from: GPULLER on June 04, 2010, 12:49:00 PM
Cant be fixed...better hand the car over to me.

Come get it!!!   :icon_smile_big:
Title: Re: Look at this crap!!!!!
Post by: GPULLER on June 04, 2010, 03:27:27 PM
Quote from: PocketThunder on June 04, 2010, 01:08:47 PM
Quote from: GPULLER on June 04, 2010, 12:49:00 PM
Cant be fixed...better hand the car over to me.

Come get it!!!   :icon_smile_big:

Well that was too easy...I'll leave work at 5:00 and be there around 7, have  :cheers: ready.


On second thought, if your giving me the car I'll bring some warm Milwaukee's Best.   ;D
Title: Re: Look at this crap!!!!!
Post by: Just 6T9 CHGR on June 04, 2010, 07:43:45 PM
Damn Paul, thats some nazty stuff right there!   How hard was it to take out the box?   Might be my next project :scratchchin:
Title: Re: Look at this crap!!!!!
Post by: PocketThunder on June 04, 2010, 11:20:44 PM
Quote from: Just 6T9 CHGR on June 04, 2010, 07:43:45 PM
Damn Paul, thats some nazty stuff right there!   How hard was it to take out the box?   Might be my next project :scratchchin:
Much easier than i thought it was going to be.  Off the top of my head here it goes:
1. Disconnect hoses from water pump, use air compressor to blow air into one end and catch antifreeze out of the other one.  Then disconnect hoses from firewall.

2. Take cover plate off from under glove box.  Take off glove box door, glove box itself (does anyone keep gloves in a glove box anymore?)  :shruggy:

3. Disconnect vacuum hose coupling near back off radio.  Disconnect some wires from harness to box.  One behind ignition key, a couple under glove box area.

4. Disconnect ductwork from under ash tray to each side of kick panels.  Unscrew plactic housing right behind center console.  Remove center console. (look out for mouse nests inside console) :brickwall:

5. Disconnect what ever I forgot to mention.

6. Go on the engine side and remove 5 nuts that hold the thing on.  Pull vacuum hose from intake and pull it thru to the inside as its part of the vacuum hoses harness that stays with the air box.

7. Take the 2 screws off the bottom center of the air box that holds the apparatus that is connectecd to the on/off valve by a solid copper wire.  Leave that under the dash hooked up. 

8. Wiggle the air box back and out of under the dash.  Oh and take the two small screws off the duct work frame that is bolted to the right hand side of the air box.

Paul   :2thumbs:
Title: Re: Look at this crap!!!!!
Post by: PocketThunder on June 04, 2010, 11:27:31 PM
Ok so tonight i stopped in at my local Ace Hardware to pick up some stuff and i got a gallon of the Simple Green that was mentioned.  Then i got a gallon of bleach from the closet at home and mixed it with some water in a spray bottle and i went to town on my firewall with the bleach solution tonight. 

Last picture, i need this spring for my driver seat.
Title: Re: Look at this crap!!!!!
Post by: PocketThunder on June 04, 2010, 11:30:14 PM
1. Seats are out.

2. Here is some cable connection i have no idea what it goes too.  Its must be some after market add on 8-track player connection.  (I'm old enough to remember 8-tracks)

3. This is why i paid a little extra to buy a southern california charger.   Floors you can eat off of.  well.... almost..

Paul
Title: Re: Look at this crap!!!!!
Post by: tan top on June 05, 2010, 03:06:35 AM
awww man , look at them floor pans  :drool5: :coolgleamA: :dance:

:popcrn:
Title: Re: Look at this crap!!!!!
Post by: bobs66440 on June 05, 2010, 05:34:03 AM
Quote from: tan top on June 05, 2010, 03:06:35 AM
awww man , look at them floor pans  :drool5: :coolgleamA: :dance:

:popcrn:

That's what you like to see when you pull up the carpet (sans the mouse crap of course)
Title: Re: Look at this crap!!!!!
Post by: Just 6T9 CHGR on June 05, 2010, 05:50:44 AM
Paul I believe those springs are repro'd now....



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MOPAR-B-C-62-69-SEAT-RETURN-SPRINGS-CORRECT-PAIR-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem19bcd81c68QQitemZ110542462056QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
Title: Re: Look at this crap!!!!!
Post by: b5blue on June 05, 2010, 08:28:15 AM
I'm kinda late to this party but 70% alcohol (or vodka) really kills piss/poop smell.  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: Look at this crap!!!!!
Post by: mauve66 on June 05, 2010, 08:42:44 AM
Quote from: PocketThunder on June 04, 2010, 11:30:14 PM
1. Seats are out.

2. Here is some cable connection i have no idea what it goes too.  Its must be some after market add on 8-track player connection.  (I'm old enough to remember 8-tracks)

3. This is why i paid a little extra to buy a southern california charger.   Floors you can eat off of.  well.... almost..

Paul

if ya like eating with the mice................................. :rofl:
Title: Re: Look at this crap!!!!!
Post by: GPULLER on June 07, 2010, 08:39:58 AM
Quote from: b5blue on June 05, 2010, 08:28:15 AM
I'm kinda late to this party but 70% alcohol (or vodka) really kills piss/poop smell.  :2thumbs:

Guess if your loaded on vodka you might not notice the mouse smell just the vomit... :puke:





(Maybe I misunderstood...your not supposed to drink the vodka to forget about the smell??)
Title: Re: Look at this crap!!!!!
Post by: 71ChallengeHer on June 07, 2010, 09:04:22 AM
Paul, Once you have everything cleaned up. Put a couple some bars of Irish Spring soap under the seat. Just leave the bars in the box . Open it a little. Mice hate it.  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: Look at this crap!!!!!
Post by: 1BAD68 on June 07, 2010, 09:21:17 AM
I had a 70 Charger that sat in a barn for over 20 years.
When I looked at the interior it didn't look bad at all (picture of interior when I bought it) but mice had tunneled the front seat foam, headliner, heater box, etc.
The back seat was pretty much untouched but reaked from rodent urine especially when it got warm.
I replaced the interior except for the rear seat so I sprayed Febreeze on the underside of the seat until it was fairly soaked and set it in the sun to bake.
I did that 2 or 3 times and it completely eliminated the smell even on the hottest days.
Title: Re: Look at this crap!!!!!
Post by: gschmidt211 on June 07, 2010, 12:58:52 PM
I feel your pain.
Title: Re: Look at this crap!!!!!
Post by: bobs66440 on June 07, 2010, 05:21:02 PM
Man, what a mess they make...the mice are so destructive. I had a '92 Dodge Caravan and they built a nest in the computer and burnt it out...$750.00!!! :RantExplode: Miserable animals.
Title: Re: Look at this crap!!!!!
Post by: PocketThunder on June 07, 2010, 08:32:00 PM
Quote from: gschmidt211 on June 07, 2010, 12:58:52 PM
I feel your pain.

Holy Crap!!!!!!

They are not the glorious little creatures that Disney makes them out to be thats for sure..
Title: Re: Look at this crap!!!!!
Post by: chargergirl on June 07, 2010, 09:43:31 PM
Quote from: PocketThunder on June 07, 2010, 08:32:00 PM
Quote from: gschmidt211 on June 07, 2010, 12:58:52 PM
I feel your pain.

Holy Crap!!!!!!

They are not the glorious little creatures that Disney makes them out to be thats for sure..
Guess Mickey isn't the only million dollar mouse!
Title: Re: Look at this crap!!!!!
Post by: 69rtse4spd on June 09, 2010, 04:34:47 PM
Quote from: PocketThunder on June 04, 2010, 11:27:31 PM
Ok so tonight i stopped in at my local Ace Hardware to pick up some stuff and i got a gallon of the Simple Green that was mentioned.  Then i got a gallon of bleach from the closet at home and mixed it with some water in a spray bottle and i went to town on my firewall with the bleach solution tonight. 

Last picture, i need this spring for my driver seat.

Well you may not be a Viking fan, :smilielol: but if you have not gotten a spring yet, I will look & see what I can come up with. Will let you know, Jeff.
Title: Re: Look at this crap!!!!!
Post by: moparmoynihan on June 09, 2010, 06:59:44 PM
All in all, you got very lucky. In NY, I have brought home plenty of Mopars. Its amazing what mice piss can do. They go in frame rails, floor pans, just about anywhere. The piss is so acidic, it rots out the entire car. I really hate mice. Johnny  :METAL:  :Twocents:
Title: Re: Look at this crap!!!!!
Post by: six-tee-nine on June 10, 2010, 12:42:33 PM
I had the same with my car...... Not that there was alot left of my interior but what was left whas eaten by the mice family......
One problem I still have left is that they crawled up the large flexible duct on the right and used the space under the cowl as their "barn".
It's stacked full with foam, hay, nutshells and brobably alot of shit too...... I don't have the intention to remove the cowl panel to clean the area.....

BTW be happy that they did'nt eat the insulation of your wiring......causing electrical gremlins or even a fire.......
Title: Re: Look at this crap!!!!!
Post by: 69rtse4spd on June 11, 2010, 03:18:41 PM
Found the spring, but it is longer in the coiled part then the one you show, it is like the repo. ones. Took it off a seat track today, do you still need it, let me know, Jeff.     
Title: Re: Look at this crap!!!!!
Post by: PocketThunder on June 11, 2010, 03:21:19 PM
Quote from: 69rtse4spd on June 11, 2010, 03:18:41 PM
Found the spring, but it is longer in the coiled part then the one you show, it is like the repo. ones. Took it off a seat track today, do you still need it, let me know, Jeff.     

Yep, i sure do.  I'll send you and e-mail.
Paul
Title: Re: Look at this crap!!!!!
Post by: 1969chargerrtse on June 22, 2010, 06:55:53 PM
"Disconnect what ever I forgot to mention."
That's funny.

If anyone has mice, just lay traps with peanut butter on them on the garage floor and they will be gone.
Title: Re: Look at this crap!!!!!
Post by: bakerhillpins on June 24, 2010, 04:38:38 PM
So did you find what part of the car they chewed up to make that nifty hotel? Mice are miserable and fowl, I can't figure out why some folks get them as pets?#!  :slap:

I wonder if cleaning that out is going to take away survivor show points?  ;)
Title: Re: Look at this crap!!!!!
Post by: doctor4766 on June 29, 2010, 06:36:48 AM
Quote from: PocketThunder on June 04, 2010, 11:30:14 PM
2. Here is some cable connection i have no idea what it goes too.  Its must be some after market add on 8-track player connection.  (I'm old enough to remember 8-tracks)
Paul

Looks like a PL259 CB radio antenna plug to me
Title: Re: Look at this crap!!!!!
Post by: PocketThunder on June 29, 2010, 12:00:20 PM
Quote from: bakerhillpins on June 24, 2010, 04:38:38 PM
So did you find what part of the car they chewed up to make that nifty hotel? Mice are miserable and fowl, I can't figure out why some folks get them as pets?#!  :slap:

I wonder if cleaning that out is going to take away survivor show points?  ;)

Sure they pretty much cleaned house in the headliner and they had the firewall pad at their disposal also.  The headliner has since been replaced and the firewall pad is next.   :-\
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Post by: ghosthunter242 on July 14, 2010, 10:30:15 AM
i can assure you i have seen worse....i was driving around vancouver and caught a glimpse of a charger off a frontage road. i found where it was and got permission to look at it.
the guy who 'owned' it got 'barn finds' and turned them.... this one was one he did not even want to turn. the body was perfect, and the original paint would probably have buffed out.but...
there were rat turds that filled the car....filled it. not just the random poops. i brainstormed a hazmat suit, a trailer and trips to every place that had the quarter machine vacuums.
the poop went at least a foot high in the trunk. it was even with the rear seats folded down and level with the top of the butt cushion in the front seats. all in all at least 500 pounds i estimate. although i would not feel good about mouse poopies, feel better your barn find is not a real rat rod....or rat turd rod. after much heartache and common sense i let the car go and did not even offer the insult offer of 3-500 bucks i am sure i could have gotten it for.
best of luck..
Title: Re: Look at this crap!!!!!
Post by: Daytona R/T SE on July 14, 2010, 11:08:55 PM
Quote from: PocketThunder on June 04, 2010, 11:30:14 PM

2. Here is some cable connection i have no idea what it goes too.  Its must be some after market add on 8-track player connection.  (I'm old enough to remember 8-tracks)



Paul

Hey, Paul...

That cable is for a CB radio antennae...

Title: Re: Look at this crap!!!!!
Post by: A383Wing on July 14, 2010, 11:13:03 PM
I would have just "installed" a cat  
Title: Re: Look at this crap!!!!!
Post by: GPULLER on July 15, 2010, 09:16:23 AM
Quote from: A383Wing on July 14, 2010, 11:13:03 PM
I would have just "installed" a cat  


A '69 is exempt from the emission laws...
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Post by: Old Moparz on July 15, 2010, 09:14:12 PM
The cheapest solution that actually works well to get odors out of things like carpets, seats, & similar items, is hydrogen peroxide. My wife & I had tried all the citrus cleaners, the special pet odor removers, & all the expensive crap that works no better than watered down water without solving the stink problem. She read that the hydrogen peroxide would work, & at something like 89 cents a bottle it was worth a try.

Once, one of our brain-dead cats snuck into the garage & I didn't know it. I closed it up & the dumbass was in there almost 3 full days. It used the back seat of my Satellite convertible as a litter box & the seat was soaked with urine. One full bottle dumped into the seat foam from underneath after I scooped & wiped the turds off, left it odor free. I thought for sure I was going to have to have the seat redone, but I didn't.

I worried about it discoloring the carpet in our house, but it didn't. Here's a link in case you don't believe me...
http://www.foodgradeh2o2.com/articles/remove-pet-odors-from-carpets/
Title: Re: Look at this crap!!!!!
Post by: A383Wing on July 15, 2010, 09:29:27 PM
Quote from: GPULLER on July 15, 2010, 09:16:23 AM
Quote from: A383Wing on July 14, 2010, 11:13:03 PM
I would have just "installed" a cat  


A '69 is exempt from the emission laws...

not that type of "cat"!!  :nana:
Title: Re: Look at this crap!!!!!
Post by: Chargermoneypit on September 23, 2010, 09:47:24 PM
Been there seen that. Even after the car is a complete shell and literally nothing in it, I can still smell the little varmits. It even still overpowers the smell of an entirely fresh paint job in the interior.
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Post by: 70daytonaclone on October 12, 2010, 07:06:12 PM
I had a 8 inch rat moving between my 74 road runner and my 69 torino eating up seat belts and back seat padding. nothing would kill him glue traps rat traps poison blocks finally my dumb cat must have seen it running and then it was gone. washed out the floors with house hold bleach. One of the problems of storing cars in the wooded area where I live.Plus the little buggers like to use holes in the floor boards for an intrance and an exit. :Twocents: Steve
Title: Re: Look at this crap!!!!!
Post by: 1BAD68 on October 21, 2010, 04:12:55 PM
Speaking of that, the other day I am driving my '04 GMC work van and eating peanuts from a big can.
Turned a corner and dumped a couple big handfulls right on the drivers side floor. I figured I pick them up when I got home.
Completely forgot about it until I was driving yesterday and looked down to see that they were all gone.
I always park my van with all the windows up and locked tight but somehow they got in and out, the only thing I can think of is through the fresh air vents somehow.
Title: Re: Look at this crap!!!!!
Post by: Brock Lee on October 22, 2010, 02:01:23 AM
I had a 1968 that was nearly as bad. Taking it apart I found more in the heater ducts and a ton up in the headliner. They ate most of the insulation behind the headliner and would piss and shit up in there.