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Title: 70 R/T SE
Post by: doctor4766 on June 02, 2022, 08:35:05 PM
Got a lead on another Charger so I pounced on it.
1970 R/T SE which I believe is matching numbers and it has a list of options a mile long, including A/C, cruise control, electric windows and a luggage rack!
The car was originally EW1 white but has been painted candy red some 15 years ago and is showing it's age.
Still deciding whether to keep it and restore it or do a few repairs and move it along.
If I keep it I'll need to sell my '69 to fund the restoration.
Here's a couple of pics
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: hemi-hampton on June 02, 2022, 09:23:05 PM
The thumbnail pics are so small I can't see it. your allowed pics up to 400kb. yours are like 10kb :shruggy:

here's a pic of my car below.
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: doctor4766 on June 03, 2022, 01:33:34 AM
Quote from: hemi-hampton on June 02, 2022, 09:23:05 PM
The thumbnail pics are so small I can't see it. your allowed pics up to 400kb. yours are like 10kb :shruggy:

here's a pic of my car below.

Hmm they look ok at my end but I'll try resize them
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: Mopar Nut on June 03, 2022, 02:59:45 AM
Keep them both if you can, you'll regret it later.
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: Todd Wilson on June 03, 2022, 07:03:31 AM
Quote from: Mopar Nut on June 03, 2022, 02:59:45 AM
Keep them both if you can, you'll regret it later.



Yup! I agree! Keep em both!


Todd
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: 70 sublime on June 03, 2022, 07:10:36 AM
Keep the 70 the way it is
If it is getting a little old on the paint you will feel better about driving it more often when you will not care so much about every little chip in the paint

I am building a nice 70 myself and have a crappy 69 to drive while I work on it
Got thinking the other day when I get the 70 done would I really want to make the 69 nice also ??
Not sure what I will do when I get to that point
The 69 is nice to jump in and go for lunch no matter how grubby my work clothes are  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: 472 R/T SE on June 03, 2022, 05:46:50 PM
Got a pic of the tag?

My R/T SE is loaded as well.  One more listed code and itd been a two tagger.
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: doctor4766 on June 03, 2022, 10:25:16 PM
Another
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: doctor4766 on June 03, 2022, 10:26:06 PM
Quote from: 472 R/T SE on June 03, 2022, 05:46:50 PM
Got a pic of the tag?

My R/T SE is loaded as well.  One more listed code and itd been a two tagger.

Yep.
I replaced the small pics in the opening post with the fender tag
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: doctor4766 on June 03, 2022, 10:30:10 PM
Quote from: 70 sublime on June 03, 2022, 07:10:36 AM
Keep the 70 the way it is
If it is getting a little old on the paint you will feel better about driving it more often when you will not care so much about every little chip in the paint

I am building a nice 70 myself and have a crappy 69 to drive while I work on it
Got thinking the other day when I get the 70 done would I really want to make the 69 nice also ??
Not sure what I will do when I get to that point
The 69 is nice to jump in and go for lunch no matter how grubby my work clothes are  :2thumbs:

I would love to keep both but finances do not allow unfortunately.
This '70 deserves a full resto, including going back to it's white paint so whilst I'd be happy having a beater as well, this one is too good to be that car, so It's one or the other
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: 70 sublime on June 03, 2022, 10:43:29 PM
The picturue of the car from the back
What is the chrome thing under the license plate ?
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: doctor4766 on June 03, 2022, 10:45:46 PM
Quote from: 70 sublime on June 03, 2022, 10:43:29 PM
The picturue of the car from the back
What is the chrome thing under the license plate ?
It's actually a black rubber cover for trailer hitch wiring.
The previous owner used to tow a van.
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: 70 sublime on June 03, 2022, 10:48:10 PM
 :2thumbs:
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: hemi-hampton on June 04, 2022, 02:19:02 PM
Better Pics now. Thanks. From the Fender Tag it looks like an Export Model. What Country do you live in? LEON.
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: doctor4766 on June 04, 2022, 08:16:52 PM
Quote from: hemi-hampton on June 04, 2022, 02:19:02 PM
Better Pics now. Thanks. From the Fender Tag it looks like an Export Model. What Country do you live in? LEON.
I'm in Australia but the previous owner bought it in Rhodesia in 1980, moved to South Africa then brought it to Oz about 14 years ago.
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: hemi-hampton on June 05, 2022, 03:33:47 PM
Wow, it's been all around the World then. LEON.
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: doctor4766 on June 06, 2022, 06:25:11 PM
Quote from: hemi-hampton on June 05, 2022, 03:33:47 PM
Wow, it's been all around the World then. LEON.


Yes.
And only just over 100000 miles
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: Alaskan_TA on June 07, 2022, 06:30:31 AM
The odometer with red 1/0ths indicates a replacement speedometer.

If there a sticker in the glove box or elsewhere noting the mileage from the original speedometer?

If it has a matching broadcast sheet, what are the Y codes at top right?

Any X codes near the bottom of the sheet?
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: Kern Dog on June 07, 2022, 09:50:25 AM
Quote from: Alaskan_TA on June 07, 2022, 06:30:31 AM
The odometer with red 1/0ths indicates a replacement speedometer.

The odometer looks black and white from here.
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: doctor4766 on June 07, 2022, 06:44:25 PM
Quote from: Alaskan_TA on June 07, 2022, 06:30:31 AM
The odometer with red 1/0ths indicates a replacement speedometer.

If there a sticker in the glove box or elsewhere noting the mileage from the original speedometer?

If it has a matching broadcast sheet, what are the Y codes at top right?


Any X codes near the bottom of the sheet?

Original speedometer by the look of things.
Y codes are:
Build to spec for - 9
Sold car sales bank - 4

X codes
LT Beam shift - 5
Label mfg for export - 6
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: hemi-hampton on June 07, 2022, 07:00:06 PM
Being a Export Car maybe original Speedometer was in Kilometers? :scratchchin: :shruggy:

The Y09 tells you it's a Export Car. So does the E before Von #.  LEON.

P.S. X21 would be Kilometers.

P.S.S. I've seen some exports have a extra Export tag on Radiator Core support.
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: doctor4766 on June 07, 2022, 09:32:57 PM
This is in miles and by the look of it, the gauge faces don't appear to have been renewed.
Was Canada considered as an export market? Reason I ask is that that section of the build sheet refers to X Export Canada X
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: hemi-hampton on June 07, 2022, 10:43:59 PM
I don't think Canada was considered a Export. but if I remember right a Canadian model would have a C letter before Von# & it would have a  Y07 for Canadian. But I'm far from any expert so could be wrong here. LEON.
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: Challenger340 on June 08, 2022, 08:13:13 AM
Quote from: hemi-hampton on June 07, 2022, 10:43:59 PM
I don't think Canada was considered a Export. but if I remember right a Canadian model would have a C letter before Von# & it would have a  Y07 for Canadian. But I'm far from any expert so could be wrong here. LEON.

Wasn't it a "B" prefix order number to designate Canadian ? I'm no expert either but all the Canadian Charger's I've seen here are "B" prefix Order Numbers..... but built identical spec to USA builds.
No matter.... I think "any" letter before the order number may designate export/Canadian/built for where-ever.....
with,
only the US cars strictly "numerical" Order Numbers

That's how 6bblgt here on this Site tipped me off that mine was NOT a Canadian Charger even though I'm in Canada..... NO "B" before the order number.... turns out mine was Y14 Sold new in San Diego to a USN Fighter Pilot "Top Gun" at Miramar AFB Ca.... who I was then able to contact/shoot the breeze with... what a great Guy, TONS of history.... unfortunately he passed last May, such a loss.
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: Alaskan_TA on June 08, 2022, 09:29:03 AM
I'll try to clear some of this up.....

Y09 is actually 'ordered from overseas'. The 'export' moniker is a misnomer.

Case in point......

Chrysler had a Military Sales Program, this allowed US military personnel to order a car via the local PX to be shipped to a dealership of their choice inside the USA.

So many Y09 cars never left the USA, which is also the reason we see Y09 cars with N95 - California Emissions.

These did have the Y09, they also show Y14 & Y11 on the broadcast sheets.

Y11 is 'Domestic Publications' so the invoices to the 'ship to' dealership inside the USA had their names and addresses on them. Same for the Mulroney label.

C / Y07 is for 1970, it changed to B / Y07 for 1971.

Y07 cars are not considered exports from the USA just as cars built at the Windsor, Ontario plant for US sale are not considered imports.

That are also plenty of letter prefix VONs for cars destined for US sale, D, J, K, M, Q, R, S, T & W to name some.

The
QuoteX Export Canada X
possibly refers to the country that the car was shipped from. I know Chrysler had at least two shippers on the east coast, one in Canada & one in NY state.

I have seen two broadcast sheets with HAWAII at the bottom also.


Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: doctor4766 on June 08, 2022, 06:22:22 PM
Some interesting information being shared here.
Thanks guys.

The order number on the build sheet begins with B07 btw
Is it worth me posting up a pic of the sheet? There's a heap more info on there that might help in the discussion.
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: Alaskan_TA on June 08, 2022, 07:16:46 PM
B07 is the SPD / Scheduled Production Date - November 7th, 1969. (1970 model year)

Actual build dates were not recorded back then though.

If the original Mylar door sticker is still there, it would show the month & year of completion, just not the actual day.

Does the N88 - Automatic Speed Control still work?
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: doctor4766 on June 08, 2022, 07:34:50 PM
Quote from: Alaskan_TA on June 08, 2022, 07:16:46 PM
B07 is the SPD / Scheduled Production Date - November 7th, 1969. (1970 model year)

Actual build dates were not recorded back then though.

If the original Mylar door sticker is still there, it would show the month & year of completion, just not the actual day.

Does the N88 - Automatic Speed Control still work?
The vehicle has been painted, so no door sticker unfortunately.
I haven't tested the cruise control yet but plan to once the weather is a little dryer
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: hemi-hampton on June 08, 2022, 08:51:43 PM
In my opinion, I say sell the 69 & restore this 70 R/T SE back to Factory original. With the long list of options, a rare valuable car. Just my opinion, others will vary :scratchchin: :shruggy: :Twocents: LEON.
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: Alaskan_TA on June 08, 2022, 08:57:33 PM
I have seen Mylar door stickers still intact, in one case under 10 layers of re-paints.  :scratchchin:

1970 is my favorite model year.
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: doctor4766 on June 10, 2022, 01:02:15 AM
Quote from: Alaskan_TA on June 08, 2022, 08:57:33 PM
I have seen Mylar door stickers still intact, in one case under 10 layers of re-paints.  :scratchchin:

1970 is my favorite model year.
I was always partial to the '69 year model but this '70 is growing on me, although I'm still not completely sold on the front bumper in comparison.
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: jefferson on June 10, 2022, 01:43:24 AM
Nice car I saw it advertised too
Cool find being an RT SE
Keep us updated!
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: Challenger340 on June 10, 2022, 09:47:18 AM
What a great Car... very well optioned, CONGRATS !

This may be a bit off topic, so my apologies.... but I've often wondered about the length difference between a '69 and '70 ?

IMO, the 1970's are hands down the best looking from the front with the wrap around bumper,
that said,
whenever I take a side profile look they(1970) seem 'longer' on the Front end than the 1969's.

Has anyone ever measured from say the front door/fender gap to the very front on each to compare, seems the 1970's have more 'overhung' body out front of the front tires than a 1969 ?
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: Kern Dog on June 10, 2022, 12:24:41 PM
I have.
I expected the '70 to be longer but the fenders measure the same length. The '70 loop bumper sticks out off the body about the same as the '69 but is top to bottom instead of being down low like the 68 and 69 models.
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: doctor4766 on June 12, 2022, 07:50:56 PM
Yeah I was expecting that too, but after having both parked in my somewhat small garage at home on separate occasions over the last few days, I can confirm that I can only just close the roller door with a few millimetres to spare with either car.

I have a nice offer on the 69 that should be confirmed in the next day or 2, pending the buyer's bank coming to the party, so it looks as though my mind may have been made up for me if his finance comes through.  


Got her up on a lift at the local garage on Friday and although it's difficult to read the engine number with old paint flaking off, it appears to be the original, so I'm pleased with that.
The floor pans all look solid as are the frame rails, with no evidence of replacement, confirming that this Charger has only lived in dry climates.
The undercoating seems to have served it's job too.

Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: hemi-hampton on June 12, 2022, 09:18:33 PM
Do you have the Broadcast Sheet? Some call it a Build Sheet or Maroney Sheet. LEON.
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: doctor4766 on June 12, 2022, 09:39:17 PM
I do have it and it's in excellent shape compared to the sheet that was in my '69
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: TPR on June 13, 2022, 05:04:54 AM
I saw the fb post for the sale of an orange '69 w/ black stripe in WA and I wondered if it was yours.
Now I see why you have to let it go. The '70 will be beautiful when completed.
I would have loved to make you an offer for the '69, but I just can't reach it at the moment.
Good luck with the resto ahead.
Don't forget to update us on the progress.
:yesnod:
TPR
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: Alaskan_TA on June 13, 2022, 08:47:23 AM
That broadcast sheet is one of two possible from the back seat.

If you have not looked inside the bucket seat backs & under the bucket bottoms, you may find one or two more.....  :scratchchin:

Possibly under the carpet too.
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: 70 sublime on June 13, 2022, 12:34:40 PM
Just make sure the numbers match your vin
I found a sheet in my seats and it was for the car before me with the same colour paint and seats
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: tan top on June 13, 2022, 12:45:31 PM
 :coolgleamA:  :popcrn:
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: doctor4766 on June 13, 2022, 06:22:19 PM
Quote from: TPR on June 13, 2022, 05:04:54 AM
I saw the fb post for the sale of an orange '69 w/ black stripe in WA and I wondered if it was yours.
Now I see why you have to let it go. The '70 will be beautiful when completed.
I would have loved to make you an offer for the '69, but I just can't reach it at the moment.
Good luck with the resto ahead.
Don't forget to update us on the progress.
:yesnod:
TPR

Cheers
Quote from: Alaskan_TA on June 13, 2022, 08:47:23 AM
That broadcast sheet is one of two possible from the back seat.

If you have not looked inside the bucket seat backs & under the bucket bottoms, you may find one or two more.....  :scratchchin:

Possibly under the carpet too.
The front seats have new upholstery and I checked the rear so far, but no extras as yet.

Quote from: 70 sublime on June 13, 2022, 12:34:40 PM
Just make sure the numbers match your vin
I found a sheet in my seats and it was for the car before me with the same colour paint and seats
They do indeed
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: hemi-hampton on June 13, 2022, 06:53:54 PM
Since you said it was Undercoated I wanted to see if the Broadcast Sheet had the J55 Option. Which it appears it does. Designating the Undercoat option. Which also includes underhood pad. If you do Restore to Original make sure you add the underhood pad for correctness. I noticed alot of people like to add these underhood pads if correct or not. either they don't know & assume all cars must of come with the pad or don't care & think it looks better that way? LEON.
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: doctor4766 on June 13, 2022, 08:28:27 PM
Quote from: hemi-hampton on June 13, 2022, 06:53:54 PM
Since you said it was Undercoated I wanted to see if the Broadcast Sheet had the J55 Option. Which it appears it does. Designating the Undercoat option. Which also includes underhood pad. If you do Restore to Original make sure you add the underhood pad for correctness. I noticed alot of people like to add these underhood pads if correct or not. either they don't know & assume all cars must of come with the pad or don't care & think it looks better that way? LEON.
Yes the clips are still there and the previous owner mentioned that it had fallen to pieces over the years.
I do have a spare used one that I'll use for now if it fits as it was on the '69 once upon a time.
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: Alaskan_TA on June 13, 2022, 09:29:18 PM
Quote from: doctor4766 on June 07, 2022, 09:32:57 PMWas Canada considered as an export market? Reason I ask is that that section of the build sheet refers to X Export Canada X

Looping back to that part, all 1970 series broadcast sheets have that.

The X codes were predominately used for Canadian provinces and / or other countries that required equipment not normally used inside the USA.
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: doctor4766 on June 13, 2022, 09:50:15 PM
The X25 option is an interesting one. (There's a 5 in the option box on this car as shown on the build sheet)

This from the 1970 Dodge Charger Registry

Lt. Beam Shift  25: This box identifies a unique export headlight high beam / low beam shift process (option code X25). That being, how the lights shift from low beam to high beam. What this means or how it works is unknown (if you know please tell us). The option X25 is noted as Left Way Beam Shift Headlamps. Perhaps export cars have a unique headlamp system that when the lights are switched from low beam to high beam the lights momentarily aim left...since many export countries drive on the left hand side with opposing traffic on the right side this may have been a process to avoid blinding oncoming traffic when high beams were selected...like I said, it's a guess. No 1970 Charger R/Ts have been found with this option code selected. Except this one?

I have noticed that all 4 headlights light up on both high and low beam, whereas on my '69 only one pair are lit on low beam.
And I see no evidence of the lights momentarily aiming left as speculated in the above quote





Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: 6bblgt on June 14, 2022, 02:34:51 AM
X25 could be as simple as the factory headlight aim set-up slight SHIFT to the left for an original destination to a LH drive country
what's the earliest known country & during what year?

is the high-beam indicator on the dash always on?  the all 4 lights on sounds like a switch or wiring problem
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: 6bblgt on June 14, 2022, 02:46:07 AM
interestingly 1970 EXPORT order E91103 is a base /6 Charger XH29C0G115215 "scheduled" B06 - it is or was in Peru at one point
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: 6bblgt on June 14, 2022, 03:45:35 AM
1970 EXPORT order E91160 is/was in Argentina

both Peru & Argentina drive on the RIGHT  :scratchchin:
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: 426HemiChick on June 14, 2022, 11:42:51 AM
Quote from: 6bblgt on June 14, 2022, 03:45:35 AM
1970 EXPORT order E91160 is/was in Argentina

both Peru & Argentina drive on the RIGHT  :scratchchin:

Hi Doctor4766,             14 June 2022

That's a fine looking 70 Charger. Based on the underside, the car appears to have lived its life in a very dry climate. Good luck with the restoration.

Having lived in and driven in countries that drive on the left and right, still to this day there are times when I turn a corner, with no cars in sight, I'll sometimes find myself driving on the left. It doesn't occur as often as it did when fresh back from a left drive country. Both seem normal to me. My last was Singapore and Kuala Lumpur 1997.

I have enjoyed all the places I have lived and worked. Never made it to Australia or New Zealand. Came close a couple times. Came close to emigrating to Australia in 1968; a 68 Hemi Road Runner interfered.

The rest is history. Happy to finally be home with Dena here in Phoenix. It's been a long road.

Best Always

Christine for the 426 Hemi Chicks
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: doctor4766 on June 15, 2022, 06:40:54 PM
Quote from: 6bblgt on June 14, 2022, 02:34:51 AM
X25 could be as simple as the factory headlight aim set-up slight SHIFT to the left for an original destination to a LH drive country
what's the earliest known country & during what year?

is the high-beam indicator on the dash always on?  the all 4 lights on sounds like a switch or wiring problem
It appears that both sets of lights are high/low beam type lamps and they all do both.
Perhaps this is the difference between the export model as I don't see how the lights could momentarily dip to the left as suggested earlier.
The high beam indicator is only lit when high beam is selected.
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: doctor4766 on June 15, 2022, 06:51:54 PM
Quote from: 426HemiChick on June 14, 2022, 11:42:51 AM
Quote from: 6bblgt on June 14, 2022, 03:45:35 AM
1970 EXPORT order E91160 is/was in Argentina

both Peru & Argentina drive on the RIGHT  :scratchchin:


Hi Doctor4766,             14 June 2022

That's a fine looking 70 Charger. Based on the underside, the car appears to have lived its life in a very dry climate. Good luck with the restoration.

Having lived in and driven in countries that drive on the left and right, still to this day there are times when I turn a corner, with no cars in sight, I'll sometimes find myself driving on the left. It doesn't occur as often as it did when fresh back from a left drive country. Both seem normal to me. My last was Singapore and Kuala Lumpur 1997.

I have enjoyed all the places I have lived and worked. Never made it to Australia or New Zealand. Came close a couple times. Came close to emigrating to Australia in 1968; a 68 Hemi Road Runner interfered.

The rest is history. Happy to finally be home with Dena here in Phoenix. It's been a long road.

Best Always

Christine for the 426 Hemi Chicks

Whilst I jump from my LHD to RHD cars without even thinking about it these days, I've never driven on roads made for LHD other than 1 time in Dubai, when one of my nephews who lives and works there wanted to test drive a Challenger.
We went to the dealership and took an SR/T8 for spin.  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: doctor4766 on June 15, 2022, 07:09:53 PM
The brakes were feeling a little soft and I could hear vacuum down in the footwell as I depressed the pedal so I decided it would be a good idea to remove the booster and take it in to have it checked out  :brickwall:
Man, what a job it was getting to 2 of the booster retaining nuts under the dash.
I ended up pulling the driver's seat so I could half see what I was doing, lying on my back.
The location of the 2 nuts on the RH side of the column is such that no matter which spanner or socket I used there was always something fowling and it made it hugely awkward to do.
Eventually, like about 90 minutes later I managed to get that last nut off by slipping my hand into a gap that I had no idea if I'd be able to get back out of. (Picture Homer Simpson with hand up vending machine)


Surely there's a easier way?
The FSM says in the booster removal procedure, point 4 - From under the instrument panel remove 4 brake unit attaching nuts and washers  :smilielol:

I left the booster at the brake specialists and should hear back today whether it's serviceable.

Not really looking forward to the refit....
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: doctor4766 on June 15, 2022, 09:12:49 PM
Meanwhile, I have decoded the build sheet based on information on the 1970 Dodge Charger Registry.
Interesting that some items you would expect to be standard, such as ash trays,carpet and belt moldings.Even the Oil Pressure Gauge?

A01   LIGHT PACKAGE
A47   SE PACKAGE
B41   DISK BRAKES
B51   POWER BOOSTER
C21   BUDDY SEAT
C23   REAR ARM RESTS WITH ASH TRAY
C55   BUCKET SEATS
C62   ADJUSTABLE DRIVERS SEAT
C93   CARPETS
F25   HD BATTERY
F96   OIL PRESSURE GAUGE
G11   TINTED GLASS
G31   RH MIRROR MANUAL
G33   LH REMOTE MIRROR
G41   PRISMATIC REAR VIEW MIRROR
H51   AIRCONDITIONING
H31   REAR DEFOGGER
J11   GLOVE BOX LOCK
J15   CIGARETTE LIGHTER
J25   3 SPEED WIPERS
J31   DUAL HORNS
J41   PEDAL DRESS UP
J46   LOCKING GAS CAP
J55   UNDERCOATING WITH HOOD PAD
J64   WOODGRAIN INSTRUMENT PANEL
L05   MAP/COURTESY LAMP
L11   GLOVE BOX LIGHT
L15   ASHTRAY LIGHT
L25   TRUNK LIGHT
L31   HOOD TURN SIGNALS
L65   LIGHT IGNITION TIME DELAY
L72   HEADLAMP ON BUZZER
M05   DOOR PROTECTION MOLDING
M21   DRIPRAIL MOLDINGS
M25   SILL MOLDINGS
M31   BODY BELT MOLDINGS
M81   FRONT BUMPER GUARDS
M83   REAR BUMPER GUARDS
M91   LUGGAGE RACK
N41   DUAL EXHAUST
N85   TIC TOC TACH
N88   AUTO SPEED CONT (CRUISE CONT)
P31   POWER WINDOWS
S15   RALLY HD SUSPENSION F/R
S25   HD SHOCKS
S31   FRONT SWAY BAR
S77   POWER STEERING
S81   SPORT STEERING WHEEL
W21   RALLYE WHEELS
X25   LT BEAM SHIFT
X66   MFG FOR EXPORT LABEL
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: hemi-hampton on June 15, 2022, 11:09:19 PM
About the only option your missing is Power Sunroof. Can't believe it's not a 2 tag car. LEON.
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: doctor4766 on June 16, 2022, 12:29:15 AM
Quote from: hemi-hampton on June 15, 2022, 11:09:19 PM
About the only option your missing is Power Sunroof. Can't believe it's not a 2 tag car. LEON.

No radio option ticked on the build sheet though.
Perhaps that's why there's no antenna hole on the fender
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: Alaskan_TA on June 16, 2022, 10:23:28 AM
No radio was standard, all radio options were extra cost.

So with no radio, you got the blank plate on the dash.

A rubber plug would have gone in the passenger side panel vs. the plug for an antenna cable.

No center dash speaker either, so a black cardboard type material in it's spot to block off the speaker grille in the top of the dash frame.

No radio = no antenna, thus no hole in the fender for one.

Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: doctor4766 on June 19, 2022, 06:26:53 PM
So my question now is whether there is an easier way to bolt the booster back in.
Do people drop the column for access the studs?
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: 66FBCharger on June 20, 2022, 11:54:38 AM
I usually remove the gauge cluster and work through where the gauge cluster was. I use a long swivel extension and maybe a universal joint to reach the nuts. It makes it a lot easier, though its a little work to remove the gauge cluster.
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: Alaskan_TA on June 20, 2022, 12:27:34 PM
Under dash work is not my favorite, but I was able to remove & reinstall mine with the column, cluster & everything else under the dash in place.
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: 472 R/T SE on June 20, 2022, 03:16:03 PM
I needed help to replace my booster in AllBlueRT.  Then again I was recently paralyzed back then, lol.
Pretty sure we dropped my column.  It was a PITA tho!

Hate asking for help, lol.
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: doctor4766 on June 20, 2022, 07:00:31 PM
Thanks gents.
I much prefer the idea of not having to remove the cluster or steering column,
Perhaps I'll give it a shot crawling under the dash first.
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: 472 R/T SE on July 09, 2022, 08:14:13 PM
Whats the latest?
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: doctor4766 on July 10, 2022, 06:35:34 PM
Quote from: 472 R/T SE on July 09, 2022, 08:14:13 PM
Whats the latest?
I sold my 69 and it actually just went on Saturday :(
I bought that car as a project in 2006 so I was sorry to see it go.
Had the buyer not been able to get the deal done with his bank I may have in fact kept it and sold the 70 instead.
Not that there was any real reason to not want the 70, just the attachment I suppose.

Anyway, I had the booster and master cylinder rebuilt by a local specialist and set to refitting them.
Despite not dropping the column and it feeling like my hands had grown since the removal, I managed to get it all bolted back up in place and with the help of my wife, we bled the brakes.
They are feeling much better now and stop the car better than the brakes ever did on the 69 but I have yet to pull the drums and calipers to do a proper check on their condition.
My initial plan is to get the car running and driving properly with everything working as it should, especially the cooling system and aircon.
We get some pretty hot days here (3-4 days of 42/43*c in a row this summer) so finally having a Charger A/C will be a real treat.
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: 472 R/T SE on July 11, 2022, 02:39:16 PM
I hear ya on the heat.  I've moved back to my home town area and I guess I forgot about the heat.  Altho all the old timers are saying somethings wrong.
Forecast is over 100 for like 12 days in a row.  Only cause thats all the further out the forecast goes, smh.

Move back home Mike, be close to your still non existent family they said, lol.
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: doctor4766 on January 07, 2023, 08:17:28 PM
The previous owner had this car for 40 years and put it in for painting in South Africa, prior to emigrating here, to Perth in Western Australia.
They shipped it after he had already moved here. He told me that he had never been happy with the job that had been done and that the Candy red wasn't as Candy as he was expecting, but by this time it was too late and he couldn't send the car back.
The leaded area where the roof meets the quarter panel was beginning to bubble out due to some reaction and looked quite unsightly.
My first thought was to have the areas repaired on both sides of the car and have the paint "touched up" but the body shop said that they wouldn't be able to match the paint and I should look to repainting to whole car.
This wasn't an option for me at this stage as I have sold the '69 and didn't want to have the car off the road for however long that might take to do properly. So I made a decision to have the roof repaired and to fit a vinyl top.
I know this car didn't come with one but it's not like they never did and that it can't be removed should I ever do a full restoration, right?
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: hemi-hampton on January 08, 2023, 10:03:12 AM
Previous owner said not Candy enough? maybe it never was Candy, maybe just a metallic Red? :scratchchin: :shruggy: It's hard to match any Candy if you don't know what base was used under it & how many coats applied but it can be done or come close, I've done it many times. I'd rather have a mismatched paint spot then the vinyl top added but just my opinion. :Twocents: :scratchchin: :shruggy: :slap: LEON.


P.S. If it is Candy maybe they used the newer Candy. Which would be red used over a red base, which don't give you the more intense Candy look of the old days when it was sprayed over silver or gold :shruggy:
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: AKcharger on January 09, 2023, 06:36:57 PM
The car was in Rhodesia!!!! THAT IS COOL

Anyway you have photos of it's time in Africa??
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: doctor4766 on January 09, 2023, 06:47:17 PM
Quote from: hemi-hampton on January 08, 2023, 10:03:12 AM
Previous owner said not Candy enough? maybe it never was Candy, maybe just a metallic Red? :scratchchin: :shruggy: It's hard to match any Candy if you don't know what base was used under it & how many coats applied but it can be done or come close, I've done it many times. I'd rather have a mismatched paint spot then the vinyl top added but just my opinion. :Twocents: :scratchchin: :shruggy: :slap: LEON.


P.S. If it is Candy maybe they used the newer Candy. Which would be red used over a red base, which don't give you the more intense Candy look of the old days when it was sprayed over silver or gold :shruggy:
Yes, you make some good points there.
The areas that needed work would have been very unsightly to just leave, so until I'm ready for a full resto I'll drive it as it now stands.
I have some pics that I'm in the process of getting ready to post so stand by...
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: doctor4766 on January 09, 2023, 06:47:44 PM
Quote from: AKcharger on January 09, 2023, 06:36:57 PM
The car was in Rhodesia!!!! THAT IS COOL

Anyway you have photos of it's time in Africa??
I don't at this point in time sorry.
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: AKcharger on January 09, 2023, 08:10:26 PM
Quote from: doctor4766 on January 09, 2023, 06:47:44 PM
Quote from: AKcharger on January 09, 2023, 06:36:57 PM
The car was in Rhodesia!!!! THAT IS COOL

Anyway you have photos of it's time in Africa??
I don't at this point in time sorry.

:'( :'(
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: doctor4766 on January 09, 2023, 10:26:33 PM
I think she turned out nicely
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: AKcharger on January 10, 2023, 06:55:25 AM
Quote from: doctor4766 on January 09, 2023, 10:26:33 PM
I think she turned out nicely

Red with black vinyl top is the ULTIMATE color combo
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: Kern Dog on January 10, 2023, 02:54:52 PM
I like a bald roof......
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: doctor4766 on January 10, 2023, 06:30:33 PM
Quote from: AKcharger on January 10, 2023, 06:55:25 AM
Quote from: doctor4766 on January 09, 2023, 10:26:33 PM
I think she turned out nicely

Red with black vinyl top is the ULTIMATE color combo
I really like it too.
It just breaks all that red up.

Quote from: Kern Dog on January 10, 2023, 02:54:52 PM
I like a bald roof......
I may have even left it alone had there not been those bubbles over the leaded area
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: AKcharger on January 10, 2023, 08:25:39 PM
Quote from: Kern Dog on January 10, 2023, 02:54:52 PM
I like a bald roof......
NO! you are wrong!  :flame:
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: tan top on January 14, 2023, 12:29:52 PM
Quote from: doctor4766 on January 09, 2023, 10:26:33 PM
I think she turned out nicely

  :coolgleamA:  black top & red paint !!  awesomecolor  combination  :yesnod: :drool5: :cheers:
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: doctor4766 on February 07, 2023, 09:00:36 PM
Should be a lot easier to post pics on here.
Blacked out the centre of the wheels for a more finished look

Anyone know where to buy the SE sail panel emblems new?
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: hemi-hampton on February 08, 2023, 12:05:14 AM
Looks nice, Nice Car. Congrats :2thumbs: LEON.
Title: Re: 70 R/T SE
Post by: 6pkrtse on March 09, 2023, 03:09:38 PM
I like it. Very similar to one of mine.