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Title: My Daytona's next look... NASCAR steelies
Post by: hemi68charger on April 21, 2011, 11:12:45 AM
OK, I'm bored here at my desk getting ready for lunch and monitoring my production seismic jobs.

Well, thought I'd share my potential change of pace look. Apparently, it looks like I'll be keeping this Daytona of mine since no one thinks it's worth what I'm asking and the bidding ( not that that's a reflection of the true value) isn't getting any higher than say $90K. Pete, I'm still holding out hope...

But regardless. I'm sending off some clusters to Shannon at redlinegaugeworks and saw this image on his homepage top banner. I LOVE the look... Would love to find some of them older NASCAR Eagles with either the raised yellow or white letters. I think the Eagle GT II's I have on the car now are still available. 15x8 steelies powder coated semi-gloss-to-gloss black should do the ticket..
Title: Re: My Daytona's next look... NASCAR steelies
Post by: tan top on April 21, 2011, 11:20:20 AM
 :yesnod:    
Title: Re: My Daytona's next look... NASCAR steelies
Post by: Aero426 on April 21, 2011, 11:27:14 AM
I'm sorry, but the modern D hole stock car wheels just do not look right on a wing car.    It's a tough look to get right because the original wheels are 5 on 5 and are pretty much unobtanium.   I also think the yellow "look at me" tars look hokey.  But that's just me.   

Bart Wheels make the early 70's GN 5 slot wheel off the original tooling.  I think they can do them 15 x 8 and the smaller bolt pattern.  This is what used to be called the Clement Wheel.   At least some Daytonas ran these in 1971.



Title: Re: My Daytona's next look... NASCAR steelies
Post by: hemi68charger on April 21, 2011, 11:47:52 AM
Quote from: Aero426 on April 21, 2011, 11:27:14 AM
I'm sorry, but the modern D hole stock car wheels just do not look right on a wing car.    It's a tough look to get right because the original wheels are 5 on 5 and are pretty much unobtanium.   I also think the yellow "look at me" tars look hokey.  But that's just me.    

Bart Wheels make the early 70's GN 5 slot wheel off the original tooling.  I think they can do them 15 x 8 and the smaller bolt pattern.  This is what used to be called the Clement Wheel.   At least some Daytonas ran these in 1971.






I was thinking of the solid OEM mopar steelies, not the multiple hole wheels in the picture.. But, now that you have shown them Doug, I too think the 5 oval-hole wheels in the vintage picture there is the key... I think I will investigate that company.......  :2thumbs:

PS: The picture I posted and the one tan did look to be the same car, the car Julius did some time ago.........
Title: Re: My Daytona's next look... NASCAR steelies
Post by: tan top on April 21, 2011, 12:06:33 PM
Quote from: Aero426 on April 21, 2011, 11:27:14 AM
I'm sorry, but the modern D hole stock car wheels just do not look right on a wing car.    It's a tough look to get right because the original wheels are 5 on 5 and are pretty much unobtanium.   I also think the yellow "look at me" tars look hokey.  But that's just me.   

Bart Wheels make the early 70's GN 5 slot wheel off the original tooling.  I think they can do them 15 x 8 and the smaller bolt pattern.  This is what used to be called the Clement Wheel.   At least some Daytonas ran these in 1971.





yeah thats the ones :yesnod:  :coolgleamA: wanted that sort of look on mine with them wheels , but went with stock style steel wheels in the end  :scratchchin:
Title: Re: My Daytona's next look... NASCAR steelies
Post by: moparstuart on April 21, 2011, 01:08:04 PM
 :popcrn:  dodge truck wheels
Title: Re: My Daytona's next look... NASCAR steelies
Post by: oldcarnut on April 21, 2011, 01:26:20 PM
Here's a couple of threads with another car or  two with them.  The yellow letter tires have been discontinued for years.  I liked them too but couldn't find any anywhere.  If you find a supply of them still left let me know.
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,60064.0.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,67082.0.html
Title: Re: My Daytona's next look... NASCAR steelies
Post by: Aero426 on April 21, 2011, 01:36:18 PM
Yes, Waynes Little Red Truck wheels look good. 
Title: Re: My Daytona's next look... NASCAR steelies
Post by: moparstuart on April 21, 2011, 02:22:49 PM
Quote from: Aero426 on April 21, 2011, 01:36:18 PM
Yes, Waynes Little Red Truck wheels look good.  
not too bad on a mercury either
Title: Re: My Daytona's next look... NASCAR steelies
Post by: Richard Cranium on April 21, 2011, 02:55:01 PM
Quote from: tan top on April 21, 2011, 11:20:20 AM
:yesnod:    

That's got a good look to it.
Title: Re: My Daytona's next look... NASCAR steelies
Post by: C500 on April 21, 2011, 04:35:31 PM
I'm a big fan of the black steelies with lettered tires. The Daytona posted by Tan Top looks the business  :drool5:

Here's a shot of my 500 with one of the wheel options I'll be using

Title: Re: My Daytona's next look... NASCAR steelies
Post by: hemi68charger on April 21, 2011, 06:21:10 PM
Quote from: Kiwi68 on April 21, 2011, 04:35:31 PM
I'm a big fan of the black steelies with lettered tires. The Daytona posted by Tan Top looks the business  :drool5:

Here's a shot of my 500 with one of the wheels options I'll be using



That's what I'm talkin' 'bout !!!!   :2thumbs:
Title: Re: My Daytona's next look... NASCAR steelies
Post by: randr on April 21, 2011, 07:14:28 PM
scared to show pics of my car with the tires! yikes!!!! well rip me to pieces!
Title: Re: My Daytona's next look... NASCAR steelies
Post by: hemi68charger on April 21, 2011, 07:38:45 PM
Quote from: randr on April 21, 2011, 07:14:28 PM
scared to show pics of my car with the tires! yikes!!!! well rip me to pieces!

Rip you to pieces? Heck, she looks awesome.. Is she on jack stands in the rear or are those new springs? Looks a little high?
Title: Re: My Daytona's next look... NASCAR steelies
Post by: randr on April 21, 2011, 09:06:46 PM
new springs....and its on dollies i think its high though, might need a lowering kit.
Title: Re: My Daytona's next look... NASCAR steelies
Post by: hemi68charger on April 21, 2011, 09:09:32 PM
Quote from: randr on April 21, 2011, 09:06:46 PM
new springs....and its on dollies i think its high though, might need a lowering kit.

I had that problem once with a new set, ended up finding some good original R/T springs... It'll look great with it lowered slightly....
Title: Re: My Daytona's next look... NASCAR steelies
Post by: moparstuart on April 22, 2011, 01:06:52 PM
i think these would look great on a grand national themed car
Title: Re: My Daytona's next look... NASCAR steelies
Post by: Patronus on April 22, 2011, 08:47:21 PM
Bassetts are nice, and light too.. made in Wiscompton
Title: Re: My Daytona's next look... NASCAR steelies
Post by: WINGIN IT on April 23, 2011, 09:15:26 AM
Quote from: randr on April 21, 2011, 07:14:28 PM
scared to show pics of my car with the tires! yikes!!!! well rip me to pieces!

Freakin' great !  :2thumbs: Love em !  Just add some dog dishes and yer done  :icon_smile_big:

Can't say I care for the plain black wheels ( with or without holes) and no hubcaps , sorry Troy.
To each their own  ;)
Title: Re: My Daytona's next look... NASCAR steelies
Post by: Aero426 on April 23, 2011, 11:49:22 AM
Here's the look you want.   Troy, you know you want to put some magnetic #71 numbers on it.   :yesnod:

Title: Re: My Daytona's next look... NASCAR steelies
Post by: randr on April 23, 2011, 01:43:22 PM
Quote from: WINGIN IT on April 23, 2011, 09:15:26 AM
Quote from: randr on April 21, 2011, 07:14:28 PM
scared to show pics of my car with the tires! yikes!!!! well rip me to pieces!

Freakin' great !  :2thumbs: Love em !  Just add some dog dishes and yer done  :icon_smile_big:

Can't say I care for the plain black wheels ( with or without holes) and no hubcaps , sorry Troy.
To each their own  ;)

had moons ordered since January! damn vender's!
Title: Re: My Daytona's next look... NASCAR steelies
Post by: hemi68charger on April 23, 2011, 02:13:09 PM
Quote from: Aero426 on April 23, 2011, 11:49:22 AM
Here's the look you want.   Troy, you know you want to put some magnetic #71 numbers on it.   :yesnod:


Maybe I need to paint the stripe and wing white and get the #71 K&K Insurance magnets...  I'll be Tim's stunt-double for his real K&K..  :icon_smile_big:
Title: Re: My Daytona's next look... NASCAR steelies
Post by: 69_500 on April 23, 2011, 02:30:34 PM
I wonder what happened to that car hauler. That would be a great one to find.

Troy, I think that you should just give in and take my bid of $90k for your car.  :nana:
Title: Re: My Daytona's next look... NASCAR steelies
Post by: hemi68charger on April 23, 2011, 08:30:27 PM
Quote from: 69_500 on April 23, 2011, 02:30:34 PM
I wonder what happened to that car hauler. That would be a great one to find.

Troy, I think that you should just give in and take my bid of $90k for your car.  :nana:

That was you? Someone else did too......... Come on man, save some more coin...........  :scratchchin:
Title: Re: My Daytona's next look... NASCAR steelies
Post by: 69_500 on April 23, 2011, 09:12:26 PM
Nope wasn't me. Just yanking your chain. If I had $90K right now I'd probably make you an offer of that plus my car but I'm short of that at this current time.

This new house is costing me an arm and a leg. Costing me about $150 a week in gas just to go to work now that I live 57 miles (each way) from my job.
Title: Re: My Daytona's next look... NASCAR steelies
Post by: hemi68charger on April 24, 2011, 05:33:33 AM
Quote from: 69_500 on April 23, 2011, 09:12:26 PM

Costing me about $150 a week in gas just to go to work now that I live 57 miles (each way) from my job.

:o
Title: Re: My Daytona's next look... NASCAR steelies
Post by: FJ5WING on April 24, 2011, 09:00:21 AM
Quote from: 69_500 on April 23, 2011, 02:30:34 PM
I wonder what happened to that car hauler. That would be a great one to find.


I dont think its a hauler but maybe a tow vehicle....dont see how its long enough for that car pictured in the foreground.
Title: Re: My Daytona's next look... NASCAR steelies
Post by: 1970Moparmann on April 24, 2011, 09:28:07 AM
I personally love the picture of your car in your avatar!!
Title: Re: My Daytona's next look... NASCAR steelies
Post by: Aero426 on April 24, 2011, 01:34:31 PM
Quote from: FJ5WING on April 24, 2011, 09:00:21 AM
Quote from: 69_500 on April 23, 2011, 02:30:34 PM
I wonder what happened to that car hauler. That would be a great one to find.


I dont think its a hauler but maybe a tow vehicle....dont see how its long enough for that car pictured in the foreground.

Yes, all the K & K Daytonas were pulled on open trailers.   I don't think anyone in NASCAR had an enclosed rig at that time.   
Title: Re: My Daytona's next look... NASCAR steelies
Post by: Arnie Cunningham on April 24, 2011, 04:00:15 PM
Who makes the best reproductions of 15x7 steel wheels found on some Superbirds?  Will the factory dog dish hubcaps fit on them?  Apparently the originals are impossible to find.
Thanks
Title: Re: My Daytona's next look... NASCAR steelies
Post by: ramairthree on April 24, 2011, 05:26:28 PM
some of these for some old school authentic on the street driver look...

(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu220/ramairfour/Daytona/our1969daytona.jpg)
Title: Re: My Daytona's next look... NASCAR steelies
Post by: hemi68charger on April 24, 2011, 06:33:03 PM
Quote from: Arnie Cunningham on April 24, 2011, 04:00:15 PM
Who makes the best reproductions of 15x7 steel wheels found on some Superbirds?  Will the factory dog dish hubcaps fit on them?  Apparently the originals are impossible to find.
Thanks

Are the salvage yards few and far in between out there? All the 15x7 steelies I have came from 5th Avenues and Cordobas... The inner portion of the rim is like the originals as well, don't have the bump on it at the rim/center interface...

Title: Re: My Daytona's next look... NASCAR steelies
Post by: nascarxx29 on April 24, 2011, 08:55:26 PM
Old school chrome reverse with the modern Nascar tires
(http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/Wingcars69/IMG_5309.jpg)
Title: Re: My Daytona's next look... NASCAR steelies
Post by: oldcarnut on April 25, 2011, 07:46:22 PM
The only size in that tire I was able to find when I was looking was P225/60R16.  15" doesn't seem to have many options now especially in a 245-255 60 :rotz:
Title: Re: My Daytona's next look... NASCAR steelies
Post by: Bob T on April 26, 2011, 01:01:16 AM
Back to the yellow lettering on the tyres, one of the guys out here made his own Goodyear stencils and applied them before the big drive to a week long show, they really rocked on his car.

Like your Nascar Steelies too  :2thumbs:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/skul4aface/2466411163/in/set-72157604893213271

and on car

http://www.flickr.com/photos/skul4aface/2467063694/in/set-72157604893213271
Title: Re: My Daytona's next look... NASCAR steelies
Post by: tan top on April 26, 2011, 02:52:03 AM

Quote from: nascarxx29 on April 24, 2011, 08:55:26 PM
Old school chrome reverse with the modern Nascar tires
(http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/Wingcars69/IMG_5309.jpg)

i love that look also :drool5:  :coolgleamA:  did think about putting a similar set up on mine  at one stage



Quote from: Bob T on April 26, 2011, 01:01:16 AM
Back to the yellow lettering on the tyres, one of the guys out here made his own Goodyear stencils and applied them before the big drive to a week long show, they really rocked on his car.

Like your Na scar Steelies too  :2thumbs:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/skul4aface/2466411163/in/set-72157604893213271

and on car

http://www.flickr.com/photos/skul4aface/2467063694/in/set-72157604893213271

looks tough :coolgleamA:
Title: Re: My Daytona's next look... NASCAR steelies
Post by: hemi68charger on April 26, 2011, 06:31:29 AM
Quote from: Bob T on April 26, 2011, 01:01:16 AM
Back to the yellow lettering on the tyres, one of the guys out here made his own Goodyear stencils and applied them before the big drive to a week long show, they really rocked on his car.

Like your Nascar Steelies too  :2thumbs:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/skul4aface/2466411163/in/set-72157604893213271

and on car

http://www.flickr.com/photos/skul4aface/2467063694/in/set-72157604893213271

That's pretty impressive.. I love the look of the big letter Goodyear Eagles.. Just like the Cup cars.....   :2thumbs:
Title: Re: My Daytona's next look... NASCAR steelies
Post by: Howie on April 26, 2011, 11:55:35 AM
Here is a set of 275 60 15`s mounted on 15X9.5 steel wheels.
Title: Re: My Daytona's next look... NASCAR steelies
Post by: Richard Cranium on April 26, 2011, 05:16:21 PM
Quote from: Bob T on April 26, 2011, 01:01:16 AM
Back to the yellow lettering on the tyres, one of the guys out here made his own Goodyear stencils and applied them before the big drive to a week long show, they really rocked on his car.

Like your Nascar Steelies too  :2thumbs:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/skul4aface/2466411163/in/set-72157604893213271

and on car

http://www.flickr.com/photos/skul4aface/2467063694/in/set-72157604893213271

What did he paint the letters with & how are they holding up?
Title: Re: My Daytona's next look... NASCAR steelies
Post by: Bob T on April 27, 2011, 12:41:53 AM
Quote from: Richard Cranium on April 26, 2011, 05:16:21 PM
Quote from: Bob T on April 26, 2011, 01:01:16 AM
Back to the yellow lettering on the tyres, one of the guys out here made his own Goodyear stencils and applied them before the big drive to a week long show, they really rocked on his car.

Like your Nascar Steelies too  :2thumbs:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/skul4aface/2466411163/in/set-72157604893213271

and on car

http://www.flickr.com/photos/skul4aface/2467063694/in/set-72157604893213271

What did he paint the letters with & how are they holding up?



Just some yellow rattle can number I think, , but with sidewall flex I expect it was only a few weeks/month worth of fun before it flaked and expired . There are a few more shots of it on his site. It was, without a doubt one of the coolest cars at Beach Hop that year.

Would some sort of yellow etch primer hold on better do you think ? The effort would be worthwhile for a show or summer cruise nights.

Title: Re: My Daytona's next look... NASCAR steelies
Post by: WINGR on June 17, 2011, 01:00:09 PM
Quote from: Aero426 on April 21, 2011, 11:27:14 AM
I'm sorry, but the modern D hole stock car wheels just do not look right on a wing car.    It's a tough look to get right because the original wheels are 5 on 5 and are pretty much unobtanium.   I also think the yellow "look at me" tars look hokey.  But that's just me.    

Bart Wheels make the early 70's GN 5 slot wheel off the original tooling.  I think they can do them 15 x 8 and the smaller bolt pattern.  This is what used to be called the Clement Wheel.   At least some Daytonas ran these in 1971.





Help requested

Hi i am thinking about putting a set of these 15x7 or 15x8 Vintage Style Bart Racing Five Slots on my Bird with a set of 255/60R15 Eagle GT11's all the way around. The only thing is that I am not sure what the backspacing should be to fit properly on a Bird without rubbing. Also does anyone know if having disc brakes in the front make any difference in the wheel backspacing as well? Thanks

WINGR/Steve