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Title: Silver Daytona XX29L9B386544 - A4 -C6R- four speed
Post by: tan top on September 21, 2020, 03:46:48 AM
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Dodge-Charger-Daytona/114419800801?hash=item1aa3f39ae1%3Ag%3AI5wAAOSwyvlfZ2Mw&LH_ItemCondition=3000%7C2500#viTabs_1


   XX29L9B386544
Title: Re: Silver Daytona XX29L9B386544 - A4 -C6R- four speed
Post by: tan top on September 21, 2020, 03:47:11 AM
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Title: Re: Silver Daytona XX29L9B386544 - A4 -C6R- four speed
Post by: tan top on September 21, 2020, 03:50:19 AM
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Title: Re: Silver Daytona XX29L9B386544 - A4 -C6R- four speed
Post by: gtx6970 on September 21, 2020, 06:14:36 AM
I know that car well.
Title: Re: Silver Daytona XX29L9B386544 - A4 -C6R- four speed
Post by: held1823 on September 21, 2020, 12:18:53 PM
a shame he doesn't share his mom and dad's passion for the cars
Title: Re: Silver Daytona XX29L9B386544 - A4 -C6R- four speed
Post by: odcics2 on September 21, 2020, 01:00:47 PM
Quote from: held1823 on September 21, 2020, 12:18:53 PM
a shame he doesn't share his mom and dad's passion for the cars

No surprise.

I didn't care for what my parents liked!!   
Title: Re: Silver Daytona XX29L9B386544 - A4 -C6R- four speed
Post by: WINGIN IT on September 21, 2020, 01:15:06 PM
Power drum brakes or power disc?
I thought PDB looking at BS, but is that master cylinder correct?
Title: Re: Silver Daytona XX29L9B386544 - A4 -C6R- four speed
Post by: tan top on September 21, 2020, 01:49:29 PM
Quote from: WINGIN IT on September 21, 2020, 01:15:06 PM
Power drum brakes or power disc?
I thought PDB looking at BS, but is that master cylinder correct?

As far as i know ! looks correct to me

B31 = 11 drums
B51 = power booster ( midland ross )   drum brake booster  ( except hemi )  j codes had a bendix booster.

if power discs  would read
B41 =  disc brakes
B51 =  power brake booster ( bendix)  all engines

i await to be corrected  :cheers:
Title: Re: Silver Daytona XX29L9B386544 - A4 -C6R- four speed
Post by: held1823 on September 21, 2020, 02:14:39 PM
Quote from: tan top on September 21, 2020, 01:49:29 PM
Quote from: WINGIN IT on September 21, 2020, 01:15:06 PM
Power drum brakes or power disc?
I thought PDB looking at BS, but is that master cylinder correct?

As far as i know ! looks correct to me

B31 = 11 drums
B51 = power booster ( midland ross )   drum brake booster  ( except hemi )  j codes had a bendix booster.

if power discs  would read
B41 =  disc brakes
B51 =  power brake booster ( bendix)  all engines

i await to be corrected  :cheers:


it matches the power drum codes on my car, so they can try and correct us both

i will need the correct booster to put back on mine eventually
Title: Re: Silver Daytona XX29L9B386544 - A4 -C6R- four speed
Post by: WINGIN IT on September 21, 2020, 03:27:28 PM
Ok cool, wasn't sure , wanted to get clarification.
Title: Re: Silver Daytona XX29L9B386544 - A4 -C6R- four speed
Post by: gtx6970 on September 21, 2020, 04:45:07 PM
Im not sure the asking price is going to happen,,,or could it ?

Ive been up close and personal with the very car several times over the years,Bob actually tried to trade me for my 69 GTX conv one time If I threw in boot money. I never persuade that idea to really find out what he was thinking said boot money was going to be.  :slap:


I personally dont think the car is 100% dead nuts correct . But its close .

So, anyone dare take a stab on how much its worth in todays market ??????
I know for a fact Sharon turned down in the mid 300K range for it at least twice. But thats been some time and have my doubts it would pull that today, BUT then again Ive been wrong before

Title: Re: Silver Daytona XX29L9B386544 - A4 -C6R- four speed
Post by: 69_500 on September 21, 2020, 07:11:15 PM
Quote from: gtx6970 on September 21, 2020, 04:45:07 PM
Im not sure the asking price is going to happen,,,or could it ?

Ive been up close and personal with the very car several times over the years,Bob actually tried to trade me for my 69 GTX conv one time If I threw in boot money. I never persuade that idea to really find out what he was thinking said boot money was going to be.  :slap:


I personally dont think the car is 100% dead nuts correct . But its close .

So, anyone dare take a stab on how much its worth in todays market ??????
I know for a fact Sharon turned down in the mid 300K range for it at least twice. But thats been some time and have my doubts it would pull that today, BUT then again Ive been wrong before




Personal opinion is that this car is a $245-260 car in todays market. No way it is close in value to the car Geno had, or the one MoparJohn is selling. To put in perspective those cars can both be purchased for $290k and $350k.

Its not even close to the same caliber of restoration.
Title: Re: Silver Daytona XX29L9B386544 - A4 -C6R- four speed
Post by: hemi-hampton on September 21, 2020, 07:16:36 PM
If That Restoration was $100k in 1996, almost 25 years ago, what would that same Resto cost you nowadays? :scratchchin: :shruggy:
Title: Re: Silver Daytona XX29L9B386544 - A4 -C6R- four speed
Post by: Birdflu on September 22, 2020, 08:56:02 AM
Quote from: 69_500 on September 21, 2020, 07:11:15 PM
Quote from: gtx6970 on September 21, 2020, 04:45:07 PM
Im not sure the asking price is going to happen,,,or could it ?

Ive been up close and personal with the very car several times over the years,Bob actually tried to trade me for my 69 GTX conv one time If I threw in boot money. I never persuade that idea to really find out what he was thinking said boot money was going to be.  :slap:


I personally dont think the car is 100% dead nuts correct . But its close .

So, anyone dare take a stab on how much its worth in todays market ??????
I know for a fact Sharon turned down in the mid 300K range for it at least twice. But thats been some time and have my doubts it would pull that today, BUT then again Ive been wrong before




Personal opinion is that this car is a $245-260 car in todays market. No way it is close in value to the car Geno had, or the one MoparJohn is selling. To put in perspective those cars can both be purchased for $290k and $350k.

Its not even close to the same caliber of restoration.

Not taking in account differences in restoration quality, history of sales have proven that 4 speed cars will often go for 15-25% more than it's automatic equivalent.
Title: Re: Silver Daytona XX29L9B386544 - A4 -C6R- four speed
Post by: Beep Beep Dave on September 24, 2020, 10:17:18 AM
Its out of my league but it sure is a good looking car.

Dave
Title: Re: Silver Daytona XX29L9B386544 - A4 -C6R- four speed
Post by: Q5XX29 on September 25, 2020, 03:54:04 PM
Yeah, that color combo, with the 4-speed, is sure appealing !!
Title: Re: Silver Daytona XX29L9B386544 - A4 -C6R- four speed
Post by: Aero426 on September 25, 2020, 08:41:31 PM
Quote from: 69_500 on September 21, 2020, 07:11:15 PM

Its not even close to the same caliber of restoration.

One look tells you that.    Killer color combo.   But a price starting with a 3?   Don't think so.

Send it to Mecum in Kissimmee next February.
Title: Re: Silver Daytona XX29L9B386544 - A4 -C6R- four speed
Post by: hemi-hampton on September 26, 2020, 11:58:07 PM
Quote from: Aero426 on September 25, 2020, 08:41:31 PM
Quote from: 69_500 on September 21, 2020, 07:11:15 PM

Its not even close to the same caliber of restoration.

One look tells you that.    Killer color combo.   But a price starting with a 3?   Don't think so.

Send it to Mecum in Kissimmee next February.

Can someone point out all the flaws with this car if not of the highest caliber Restoration :scratchchin:
Title: Re: Silver Daytona XX29L9B386544 - A4 -C6R- four speed
Post by: 70 sublime on September 27, 2020, 05:17:56 AM
Quote from: hemi-hampton on September 26, 2020, 11:58:07 PM
Quote from: Aero426 on September 25, 2020, 08:41:31 PM
Quote from: 69_500 on September 21, 2020, 07:11:15 PM

Its not even close to the same caliber of restoration.

One look tells you that.    Killer color combo.   But a price starting with a 3?   Don't think so.

Send it to Mecum in Kissimmee next February.

Can someone point out all the flaws with this car if not of the highest caliber Restoration :scratchchin:

I was wondering the same thing

From that under the car picture from the back the gas tank has been painted and under side of the car is not painted body colour ?
Title: Re: Silver Daytona XX29L9B386544 - A4 -C6R- four speed
Post by: DownZero on September 27, 2020, 07:19:44 AM
Either the tank is empty or the fuel gauge doesn't work.
Title: Re: Silver Daytona XX29L9B386544 - A4 -C6R- four speed
Post by: charger500440 on September 27, 2020, 07:32:42 AM
Looks like a nice car, but is that a spray foam gasket between the upper radiator and the upper tie bar? I don't believe I've ever seen anything like that before...
Title: Re: Silver Daytona XX29L9B386544 - A4 -C6R- four speed
Post by: Birdflu on September 27, 2020, 11:27:41 AM
Definitely looks like a piece of foam stuffed in there to prevent under hood air from coming around the corner vs outside air coming through the nose... :shruggy:
Title: Re: Silver Daytona XX29L9B386544 - A4 -C6R- four speed
Post by: hemigeno on September 27, 2020, 11:52:42 AM
The foam was used on Daytonas, to ensure air from the nosecone went through the radiator rather than having a "path of least resistance" around it. 

There was a corresponding foam strip used at the bottom of the radiator-to-yoke gap as well.  From the original examples I've seen, a double-stack of foam strip was - at lest supposed to be - used on 3.54 / 4-speed cars like the Malcom's A4 car, which came equipped with the 055 2-core radiator.  Although the top tanks have the same overall dimensions, the 055's bottom radiator tank was skinnier than the 054 3-core (with the 055 having a larger gap on the radiator core side), so a single wythe of foam wasn't deep enough to span the gap and seal off the airflow. 

I've not personally seen a yellow(ish) foam strip on an original/unrestored car, all I've observed myself was a black/charcoal colored (IIRC it was closed-cell?) foam strip.  But... I didn't see this car before it was restored in '96.  Maybe the restoration shop has documentation to back up what they used?   :shruggy:


Title: Re: Silver Daytona XX29L9B386544 - A4 -C6R- four speed
Post by: odcics2 on September 27, 2020, 12:17:02 PM
Missing valance to K frame rubber seal?
Title: Re: Silver Daytona XX29L9B386544 - A4 -C6R- four speed
Post by: A383Wing on September 27, 2020, 12:49:02 PM
Quote from: odcics2 on September 27, 2020, 12:17:02 PM
Missing valance to K frame rubber seal?

missing battery hold down as well
Title: Re: Silver Daytona XX29L9B386544 - A4 -C6R- four speed
Post by: gtx6970 on September 27, 2020, 02:51:08 PM
Bob has always had this car ( all his cars actually ) priced at the max. and as far as I know.
I know for a fact they have sold some  cars but dont know for 100% certainty if any of the wing cars have sold or not

This particular car is nice, not dead nuts OE perfect . But its a damn nice car. The color combo and 4 spd  is a major driving force for the price im sure.

I dont think it can compare to Genos old car quality wise, but visual  wise it trumps it hands down.

What it will actually take to own it , I have no idea . But me thinks it can be bought for well under the asking $$$$
Title: Re: Silver Daytona XX29L9B386544 - A4 -C6R- four speed
Post by: held1823 on September 28, 2020, 04:26:38 PM
it might trump the orange/black combo for looks, but there is also a equally perfect blue/white one for sale for far less money
Title: Re: Silver Daytona XX29L9B386544 - A4 -C6R- four speed
Post by: odcics2 on September 29, 2020, 06:57:44 AM
Question: Why does that silver color have a greenish hue?

I've seen that color on a 69 Road Runner in person and though they mixed the paint wrong.
Title: Re: Silver Daytona XX29L9B386544 - A4 -C6R- four speed
Post by: Aero426 on September 29, 2020, 09:04:11 AM
Quote from: odcics2 on September 29, 2020, 06:57:44 AM
Question: Why does that silver color have a greenish hue?

I've seen that color on a 69 Road Runner in person and though they mixed the paint wrong.

I think it has some green in the tints that make up the color.    I've always seen some green in that color.
Title: Re: Silver Daytona XX29L9B386544 - A4 -C6R- four speed
Post by: Golden-Arm on September 29, 2020, 11:02:38 AM
Quote from: odcics2 on September 29, 2020, 06:57:44 AM
Question: Why does that silver color have a greenish hue?

it's simple. it's tarnish.  :smilielol:
Title: Re: Silver Daytona XX29L9B386544 - A4 -C6R- four speed
Post by: odcics2 on September 29, 2020, 11:32:45 AM
The cure.   :nana:
Title: Re: Silver Daytona XX29L9B386544 - A4 -C6R- four speed
Post by: 69_500 on September 29, 2020, 05:20:26 PM
In a factory A4 mix there is a hint of green in the silver.
Title: Re: Silver Daytona XX29L9B386544 - A4 -C6R- four speed
Post by: hemi-hampton on September 29, 2020, 07:33:16 PM
Since I mix Paint Daily & have access to any Paint Code I figured I'd look it up to see what's in it :scratchchin: Here's the Formula in both Diamont Base Coat & Single Stage Urethane. Notice both Formulas has a tint called Yellow-Green. Which I'm sure gives it that Greenish tint/look to it. LEON.