Recently I found a link to an article in HOT ROD magazine written by Mopar expert Frank Badelson.
It was an article on original 440, 440 SIX BARREL and HEMI engine details.
My reading came to a quick halt when I read " ALL 69 1/2 and 70 SIX BARREL engines should have red coil wire boots on the distributor cap end ". WOW!
So the next thing I did was to look through all the attached pictures to see if any showed this red boot?
I did find just one and have attached it to this post.
Does any one out there with a SIX BARREL SUPERBIRD have a red coil wire boot on their car or with an original set of wires?
MJ
You need to find a vintage photo to verify...
:Twocents:
Even a black and white photo will have a shade difference in 'color' for you to determine this.
I know hemi cars had the reddish colored boot on them in 1970.
Hopefully, someone has a vintage pic to show ALL HIPO Mopars started out with that reddish boot, because I was told that by a guy that has a long history with MoPars. (lives in VA)
When did this "red boot" thing start? What engines?
What year did it finish? (when electronic ignition started perhaps?)
This is interesting stuff... :cheers:
It should have that red boot. you can use SEM Color coat Napa red part # 15273 and spray that boot for a close match.
Quote from: johntpr on March 20, 2017, 02:25:10 PM
It should have that red boot. you can use SEM Color coat Napa red part # 15273 and spray that boot for a close match.
What would a real one be worth to a guy that puts his car in concurs shows?
Do they pull the wire to see if it's just painted or real? :shruggy:
Quote from: Mopar John on March 20, 2017, 11:13:11 AM
Recently I found a link to an article in HOT ROD magazine written by Mopar expert Frank Badelson.
It was an article on original 440, 440 SIX BARREL and HEMI engine details.
My reading came to a quick halt when I read " ALL 69 1/2 and 70 SIX BARREL engines should have red coil wire boots on the distributor cap end ". WOW!
So the next thing I did was to look through all the attached pictures to see if any showed this red boot?
I did find just one and have attached it to this post.
Does any one out there with a SIX BARREL SUPERBIRD have a red coil wire boot on their car or with an original set of wires?
MJ
My 6BBL Bird has it....Hemi's should have it as well....my 69 Hemi -X has it. Not sure about other engines. Sometimes you have to pull the boot and look inside to see that it is indeed red.
Quote from: maxwellwedge on March 21, 2017, 09:03:43 AM
Quote from: Mopar John on March 20, 2017, 11:13:11 AM
Recently I found a link to an article in HOT ROD magazine written by Mopar expert Frank Badelson.
It was an article on original 440, 440 SIX BARREL and HEMI engine details.
My reading came to a quick halt when I read " ALL 69 1/2 and 70 SIX BARREL engines should have red coil wire boots on the distributor cap end ". WOW!
So the next thing I did was to look through all the attached pictures to see if any showed this red boot?
I did find just one and have attached it to this post.
Does any one out there with a SIX BARREL SUPERBIRD have a red coil wire boot on their car or with an original set of wires?
MJ
My 6BBL Bird has it....Hemi's should have it as well....my 69 Hemi -X has it. Not sure about other engines. Sometimes you have to pull the boot and look inside to see that it is indeed red.
Jim,
Could you post some pictures of your 6 BBL and HEMI engines with the red coil wire boots when you get a chance?
Thanks! MJ
So now I had my eye out for a red coil wire boot for the distributor cap.
I came upon some Mopar coil wire boots orange in color for the coil end.
I picked up a few just in case these would come up at some point?
The first picture shows a full display card of these.
The second picture is a close up of one that I bought.
Almost the right color but the step in the middle is way different than the ones for the cap.
MJ
Any idea why it is different than the rest of the wires?
Ah heck !!!! Now I have to make sure SOMETHING else is correct for my Superbird and Daytona...... :rofl:
It is only red on the distributor end of the coil wire. I will see if if can get a good pic or two.
Quote from: maxwellwedge on March 22, 2017, 11:09:17 AM
It is only red on the distributor end of the coil wire. I will see if if can get a good pic or two.
Thanks Jim!
I would like to see pictures of a real world example!
So once I started looking for a red boot I was looking for pictures and any information I could find.
The bottom line is that there is not much out there.
I did run across a specialty ignition wire manufacturer and bought a couple of his red distributor cap boots.
I have attached a picture of one.
Not bad in color but too long on the wire end.
Still looking!
MJ
I believe the color is a reddish/purple, at least when they were new.
Also hear that they ran between 68 to 72 on HiPo engines only.
:shruggy:
Thanks for the great picture Gene!
I assume that is a picture of your Daytona by the date code on the wires.
So now I need two of these boots one for the Superbird and another for the Daytona. :brickwall:
MJ
John, I wouldn't lose any sleep over finding one for your Daytona. Jim McCauley's F5 Daytona (pretty original as you know) has what appears to be a black boot, as do a couple of other fairly original cars I just checked my pics for confirmation... although I admittedly couldn't read the date codes on their plug wires in the photos I checked - so they may have been replaced during a tuneup sometime in those cars' past.
I would not argue the point (at least on a '68-9 model) either way, but it's a cool detail to add if you can scrounge one up - especially for your 'Bird.
:Twocents:
Quote from: hemigeno on March 22, 2017, 04:28:25 PM
John, I wouldn't lose any sleep over finding one for your Daytona. Jim McCauley's F5 Daytona (pretty original as you know) has what appears to be a black boot, as do a couple of other fairly original cars I just checked my pics for confirmation... although I admittedly couldn't read the date codes on their plug wires in the photos I checked - so they may have been replaced during a tuneup sometime in those cars' past.
I would not argue the point (at least on a '68-9 model) either way, but it's a cool detail to add if you can scrounge one up - especially for your 'Bird.
:Twocents:
Thanks for the quick follow up Gene!
MJ
Quote from: johntpr on March 20, 2017, 02:25:10 PM
It should have that red boot. you can use SEM Color coat Napa red part # 15273 and spray that boot for a close match.
That's cheating! :smilielol: :smilielol:
Quote from: Mopar John on March 22, 2017, 03:36:30 PM
Thanks for the great picture Gene!
I assume that is a picture of your Daytona by the date code on the wires.
So now I need two of these boots one for the Superbird and another for the Daytona. :brickwall:
MJ
Here is a shot of a NOS one I have tucked away for the Hemi car. I don't think the 69 auto's used this boot John. I was under the impression it was a dual point distributor only thing in 69. Which would include 4 speed 440's, Hemis & Six Packs in 69 & 70. If they were used on single point distributors I guess it goes on the Daytona.
The A12 boys tell me the red cap was not uniformly on Lynch Road A12's.
May have been a supplier thing and popped up now and again at other plants but not a "this is a six pack car, it must have a red coil plug on it" kinda thing, not at Lynch Road anyway.
Davtona - What's the date code on the wire in the photo?
John - Looks like you will have to research YOUR car to see if it had one from the factory. Until you know for sure, maybe just leave it black and end the sleepless nights!
p.s. I have an under hood photo that shows the #88 at Chelsea testing with a 2 4bbl. street hemi in it! It has street wires on it. (they are black) IT HAS THE RED BOOT, too!
Thanks for all the replies and info!
Unfortunately I am now more confused than ever on this red boot detail?
I would be nice if it was used on the late 69 and 70 dual point distributors only.
Could this have been an assembly line item that told the workers a 6 BBL and or a HEMI needed a longer coil wire?
But with yes and no at the same plant it makes this tough!
I hope others continue to read this post and more information comes out.
Like Greg says we need photos of original cars with the red boots even if they are black and white photos.
MJ
Quote from: hemigeno on March 22, 2017, 04:28:25 PM
John, I wouldn't lose any sleep over finding one for your Daytona. Jim McCauley's F5 Daytona (pretty original as you know) has what appears to be a black boot, as do a couple of other fairly original cars I just checked my pics for confirmation... although I admittedly couldn't read the date codes on their plug wires in the photos I checked - so they may have been replaced during a tuneup sometime in those cars' past.
I would not argue the point (at least on a '68-9 model) either way, but it's a cool detail to add if you can scrounge one up - especially for your 'Bird.
:Twocents:
I thought the same on my Bird - which still has its original wires. But....they do darken... and I could not see that it was red until I pulled it off and looked inside.
Quote from: maxwellwedge on March 23, 2017, 09:08:03 AM
Quote from: hemigeno on March 22, 2017, 04:28:25 PM
John, I wouldn't lose any sleep over finding one for your Daytona. Jim McCauley's F5 Daytona (pretty original as you know) has what appears to be a black boot, as do a couple of other fairly original cars I just checked my pics for confirmation... although I admittedly couldn't read the date codes on their plug wires in the photos I checked - so they may have been replaced during a tuneup sometime in those cars' past.
I would not argue the point (at least on a '68-9 model) either way, but it's a cool detail to add if you can scrounge one up - especially for your 'Bird.
:Twocents:
I thought the same on my Bird - which still has its original wires. But....they do darken... and I could not see that it was red until I pulled it off and looked inside.
Yeah, from your earlier comment it seemed like that was a possibility (hence the "appears to be a black boot" qualifier above). Your 'Bird is probably the best resource to check for a detail like this. :2thumbs:
BTW, Happy Birthday Jim! :cheers:
Quote from: odcics2 on March 23, 2017, 07:33:43 AM
Davtona - What's the date code on the wire in the photo?
John - Looks like you will have to research YOUR car to see if it had one from the factory. Until you know for sure, maybe just leave it black and end the sleepless nights!
I'll check the date tonight and post.
How is a person to research such a thing on their car. Once the original wires are gone there is not much to research that I can see. Its not like paint markings and such which are more permanent. Without day one or early on photos I'm not sure how to verify this.
'69 A12 cars didn't have a red boot, period! :slap:
Quote from: 69DAYTONASE on March 23, 2017, 09:38:51 AM
'69 A12 cars didn't have a red boot, period! :slap:
I disagree
Certainly an interesting thread! :cheers:
I'm sure my 69 S/P Bee had a red boot!
Yeh deffo, it was red all over... :smilielol: (Boot is trunk in UK) :scratchchin:
The level of detail you Guys/Gals strive to achieve is mind boggling indeed! :2thumbs:
Full engine color exhaust manifolds look AWFUL though.
Much prefer them in grey...
Most of the paint on the manifolds burns off. :Twocents:
Quote from: johntpr on March 23, 2017, 09:43:13 AM
Quote from: 69DAYTONASE on March 23, 2017, 09:38:51 AM
'69 A12 cars didn't have a red boot, period! :slap:
I disagree
Well mate, you would be wrong. I've asked the question of the A12 guru's and there are no examples or evidence of the red booted coil plug being used at Lynch Road on the A-12's.
Moving right along.... :cheers:
Quote from: Davtona on March 23, 2017, 09:34:09 AM
Quote from: odcics2 on March 23, 2017, 07:33:43 AM
Davtona - What's the date code on the wire in the photo?
John - Looks like you will have to research YOUR car to see if it had one from the factory. Until you know for sure, maybe just leave it black and end the sleepless nights!
I'll check the date tonight and post.
How is a person to research such a thing on their car. Once the original wires are gone there is not much to research that I can see. Its not like paint markings and such which are more permanent. Without day one or early on photos I'm not sure how to verify this.
Ok here is a shot of the wire with the date code. I never paid any attention to the wire's date code until you asked. But it appears to go way back as the early vintage lettering on the package would indicate. There is a original A12 car a few miles from me. Been stored for a long time. I may have to swing by this weekend and see what color boot is on it. :scratchchin:
Anyway back to my previous question:
How is a person to research such a thing on their car. Once the original wires are gone there is not much to research that I can see. Its not like paint markings and such which are more permanent. Without day one or early on photos I'm not sure how to verify this. :shruggy:
The only way it can be researched in the absence of factory data, with color photo's and survivor cars.
No red boots on survivor A12's, inc cars that are still in the hands of their original owners.
Best to focus now on 1970 and see if a trend can be identified.
A12 Pic from magazine article....this is a really good shot.......you can even see the yellow script and the date 1 Q-69..............while this engine is slightly modified......much originality can be seen........coil......red dist lead end......choke and gold bolts holding it.......blue ballast res to coil wire, s-clip on vacuum hose etc.
Quote from: A12 Superbee on March 23, 2017, 06:05:17 PM
Quote from: johntpr on March 23, 2017, 09:43:13 AM
Quote from: 69DAYTONASE on March 23, 2017, 09:38:51 AM
'69 A12 cars didn't have a red boot, period! :slap:
I disagree
Well mate, you would be wrong. I've asked the question of the A12 guru's and there are no examples or evidence of the red booted coil plug being used at Lynch Road on the A-12's.
Moving right along.... :cheers:
Who would these A12 Guru's be? I learned a long time ago to never paint myself in a corner concerning these old cars. No one has seen them all and variations exist based on vendors, parts availability etc.
Quote from: hemigeno on March 23, 2017, 09:27:32 AM
Quote from: maxwellwedge on March 23, 2017, 09:08:03 AM
Quote from: hemigeno on March 22, 2017, 04:28:25 PM
John, I wouldn't lose any sleep over finding one for your Daytona. Jim McCauley's F5 Daytona (pretty original as you know) has what appears to be a black boot, as do a couple of other fairly original cars I just checked my pics for confirmation... although I admittedly couldn't read the date codes on their plug wires in the photos I checked - so they may have been replaced during a tuneup sometime in those cars' past.
I would not argue the point (at least on a '68-9 model) either way, but it's a cool detail to add if you can scrounge one up - especially for your 'Bird.
:Twocents:
I thought the same on my Bird - which still has its original wires. But....they do darken... and I could not see that it was red until I pulled it off and looked inside.
Yeah, from your earlier comment it seemed like that was a possibility (hence the "appears to be a black boot" qualifier above). Your 'Bird is probably the best resource to check for a detail like this. :2thumbs:
BTW, Happy Birthday Jim! :cheers:
Thanks Geno!.....as I say every year....Not a lot smarter but another year old - Lol.
Thanks for the back up Maxwellwedge. I was about to post the same photo.
Hmmm, bent fuel tube also...
Everyone to the garage and bend yours to match it! :coolgleamA:
Nice to see vintage proof. :2thumbs:
10,000 mile 340 4spd dual point....Duster 340
Quote from: maxwellwedge on March 24, 2017, 09:56:04 AM
10,000 mile 340 4spd dual point....Duster 340
:2thumbs:
:cheers:
Here we go more to fuel the fire boys. :lol: In the picture of the 69 parts book shown it lists the wire I have previously pictured (#2095775) as being for a 440 HP with a Prestolite distributor (4 speed cars) in all b bodies essentially. That pretty well covers the A12 cars also I would say. It also lists a Chrysler built distributor coil wire (single point) as a different part number #2095772. Interesting that all C bodies used the same wire as the 440 4 speed cars. Does anyone have a NOS #2095772 cable? I'd love to see the color of the boot on that one. I'm of the belief that single point / auto cars did not use the red boot. :Twocents:
Im not sure of anything since I didnt start documenting anything nearly early enough. The race car cant be considerd a good source, with the swapped out parts and additional parts its just not a good example.
Im willing to go with the 69's would also have the red coil wire but mostly just enjoying this thread.
Quote from: Davtona on March 24, 2017, 02:39:42 PM
Here we go more to fuel the fire boys. :lol: In the picture of the 69 parts book shown it lists the wire I have previously pictured (#2095775) as being for a 440 HP with a Prestolite distributor (4 speed cars) in all b bodies essentially. That pretty well covers the A12 cars also I would say. It also lists a Chrysler built distributor coil wire (single point) as a different part number #2095772. Interesting that all C bodies used the same wire as the 440 4 speed cars. Does anyone have a NOS #2095772 cable? I’d love to see the color of the boot on that one. I'm of the belief that single point / auto cars did not use the red boot. :Twocents:
Dave,
First off thanks for the pictures and information!
But I have to disagree with part number 2095775 covering the A12 cars.
The reason being is that a 440 4BBL coil wire won't reach the coil all the way at the back of the intake on a 6BBL car!
I am curious if the parts book your using had any supplements for the late production 6BBL cars?
I went out to the shop and my 1969 coil wire parts book page looks the same as yours.
But when I got out my 1970/1971 book there is a new part number for the coil wire on 6BBL cars!
The part number is 2095777 and I wonder when it was issued?
I have attached a picture of my 1970/1971 coil wire parts book page.
MJ
what time frame gap existed between the a12 cars and the 1970 models?
i imagine the 1970 parts were already in production and perhaps sourced for the a12 models
Quote from: Mopar John on March 24, 2017, 06:17:57 PM
But I have to disagree with part number 2095775 covering the A12 cars.
The reason being is that a 440 4BBL coil wire won't reach the coil all the way at the back of the intake on a 6BBL car!
Whoa I missed it on that one. :misbehaving: Yes John good point. No my 69 book has no supplements. And my 70 book is same as yours. Ok we need a #2095777 wire so we can see what color the boot is. :lol: Interesting the 70 single 4 bbl engine uses the same number as the 69 440 with a single point dist.
Quote from: Davtona on March 24, 2017, 07:28:27 PM
Quote from: Mopar John on March 24, 2017, 06:17:57 PM
But I have to disagree with part number 2095775 covering the A12 cars.
The reason being is that a 440 4BBL coil wire won't reach the coil all the way at the back of the intake on a 6BBL car!
Whoa I missed it on that one. :misbehaving: Yes John good point. No my 69 book has no supplements. And my 70 book is same as yours. Ok we need a #2095777 wire so we can see what color the boot is. :lol: Interesting the 70 single 4 bbl engine uses the same number as the 69 440 with a single point dist.
Well for what it's worth,that is the same number coil wire that was on this and I still have one somewhere,I tend to keep things I don't need.
jesus christ... Next we are going to start taking dna tests to check the air in the fricking tires to see if it can be carbon dated to 1969.. LOL god o mighty LOL ok.. Now i will keep my eye open for red damm boots...
Quote from: DoubleDlover on March 27, 2017, 03:16:53 AM
jesus christ... Next we are going to start taking dna tests to check the air in the fricking tires to see if it can be carbon dated to 1969.. LOL god o mighty LOL ok.. Now i will keep my eye open for red damm boots...
and these, too! :yesnod:
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,128087.0.html
:cheers:
Hi DD and other Folks.
Yep I was feeling rather queasy when stripping down my C500.
An untouched 48 year old, super-rare Mopar.
Looking at all the original pieces and wondering 'how will I find' replacements, especially the RUBBERY BITS!
Think I saw an original C500/Daytona trunk seal for $500. :scratchchin:
Replacement radiator $1200... :eek2:
FM radio $1000... :eek2:
Then there is the Oilpump cover, at least they is only $50...
My Moparmate bought a real clever Book on original MOPAR FASTENERS!
Can I say BIBLE... :popcrn:
WW :patriot: :engel016:
Be careful of that book.....not 100% correct
I now have a NOS MOPAR coil wire distributor end red boot in my possession! WOW!
I had to buy a whole set of wires to get the boot but as rare as they are I felt is was worth it.
My first picture shows the NOS wire set with the red boot.
The second picture is a close up of the red boot only.
I still would like to see some pictures of original 6BBL Superbirds with them before I install it.
MJ
NOS 69 Red Boot isn't doing it for me John!
How about this one??? :slap:
ww :icon_smile_dissapprove: :icon_smile_dissapprove: :icon_smile_dissapprove:
Quote from: Wingwalker on March 31, 2017, 01:46:41 PM
NOS 69 Red Boot isn't doing it for me John!
How about this one??? :slap:
ww :icon_smile_dissapprove: :icon_smile_dissapprove: :icon_smile_dissapprove:
That's a pretty Schmexy boot right there....... :drool5:
!!!
Quote from: Wingwalker on March 31, 2017, 01:46:41 PM
NOS 69 Red Boot isn't doing it for me John!
How about this one??? :slap:
ww :icon_smile_dissapprove: :icon_smile_dissapprove: :icon_smile_dissapprove:
Wingwalker,
I like that boot better also!
MJ
Hey All,
I scanned through the whole thread and may have missed it but does this unique boot have anything to do with the unique distributor cap that the 6 pack cars had? The taller center terminal?
Distributor (6 pack auto) 2875 982 uses cap 2585 000
Distributor (6 pack manual) 3438 314 uses cap 2585 000
Distributor (4 barrel HP) 3438 222 uses cap 2444 507
Weird cap, weird wire, coincidence?
I don't think so. One of the examples posted is a 340.
Quote from: Arnie Cunningham on March 31, 2017, 09:26:34 PM
Hey All,
I scanned through the whole thread and may have missed it but does this unique boot have anything to do with the unique distributor cap that the 6 pack cars had? The taller center terminal?
Distributor (6 pack auto) 2875 982 uses cap 2585 000
Distributor (6 pack manual) 3438 314 uses cap 2585 000
Distributor (4 barrel HP) 3438 222 uses cap 2444 507
Weird cap, weird wire, coincidence?
The 3438222 is a single point Chrysler distributor with the 2444507 cap,the 2585000 was used only on the Prestolite dual point,both big and small block.The tan 2585000 started in 1966,the Prestolite prior was a black #!BK1003,number was on inside of cap.
Quote from: odcics2 on April 01, 2017, 07:31:43 AM
I don't think so. One of the examples posted is a 340.
Yes but a 70 340 distributor can use the #2585000 cap. Distributor #3438521 is a for 70 340 Six Pack. All the 340 Six Packs used the Prestolite dual point distributor it appears to me. I think Arnie is correct in that it may have to do with the cap but that cap also only works on the prestolite dual point. :Twocents:
As above,there is only one cap for the Prestolite beginning in 1966,the 2585000,nothing else ! There are a bunch of after market but the 2585000 is the only original used by Chrysler.
AL66 Niehoff
A304 Delco
AL129 Echlin(Napa)
AL1290 Echlin(Napa)
C152 Borg Warner
AL122 Filko
3-35 motorcraft
AL135 Standard Ignition
Trying to find an original 2585000 cap with " MADE IN USA" is about as hard as finding the red boot we are discussing here!
MJ
Quote from: Mopar John on April 02, 2017, 08:34:10 AM
Trying to find an original 2585000 cap with " MADE IN USA" is about as hard as finding the red boot we are discussing here!
MJ
Is that the black cap? I have a nice original....Somewhere in storage
The black cap is 65 and earlier,the original Prestolite cap,both tan and black have the Prestolite IBK1003 part number molded inside,if that number is not there it is an after market cap.
Great...
Now I need to go through my pile of NOS caps... :pushup:
Quote from: Mopar John on April 02, 2017, 08:34:10 AM
Trying to find an original 2585000 cap with " MADE IN USA" is about as hard as finding the red boot we are discussing here!
MJ
One was on ebay - http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-HEMI-six-pack-DUAL-POINT-DISTRIBUTOR-CAP-1968-1969-1970-MOPAR-DODGE-PLYMOUTH-/132103913744?hash=item1ec201c110%3Ag%3AmDMAAOSw4A5YoRLR&vxp=mtr&nma=true&si=hyhkaYpcbFX6w50hsJCHasUTF30%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
(not mine)
A friend of mine has the 2585 000 new in the box. It has a significantly taller center terminal. My question is what the heck for? I may have a photo somewhere of the different height.
Have three tan and two black,all N.O.S. all are identical in center terminal height.Have your friend check the IBK1003 number inside.
Possible to have assy line parts vs NOS after the fact parts?? :shruggy:
I will check it out this week. I have to take him a set of frame rails and other odds and ends. Still looking for the photo I took.
Found it. The angle isn't right to show how much taller the center terminal is than a normal non-six pack/hemi (dual point) piece. I will see if I can get a shot of both the NOS cap I bought for my 4 bbl car and his six pack cap.
Also one on Moparts for sale in the Hemi section 2nd qrt, 2nd post down (Bigblock, & smallblock sections too). Zoom for the made in bla bla.
http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/2279876/gonew/1/for-sale-elephant-hemi-engines-2nd-quarter.html#UNREAD
http://i63.tinypic.com/5ycjv9.jpg
Quote from: Arnie Cunningham on April 02, 2017, 12:06:56 PM
Found it. The angle isn't right to show how much taller the center terminal is than a normal non-six pack/hemi (dual point) piece. I will see if I can get a shot of both the NOS cap I bought for my 4 bbl car and his six pack cap.
From what I can determine,all Prestolite caps,tan and black have a 1 1/4" high terminal,being Hemi or sixpack has nothing to do with it ,the standard non Prestolite is about 1" being it is a completely different cap.I have some after market caps an they are all over the place except the Atlas.
Taller center is for the spring inside, pushing the contact on the rotor.
Ah! Interesting!
Quote from: 62 Max on April 02, 2017, 10:20:39 AM
The black cap is 65 and earlier,the original Prestolite cap,both tan and black have the Prestolite IBK1003 part number molded inside,if that number is not there it is an after market cap.
My tan caps all have a black gasket on the bottom, to seal it to the distributor. :Twocents:
I guess as long as we are on this subject, are there any identifying marks on an original 1969 or 1970 2444 507 tan cap for the single point distributor engines?
Quote from: odcics2 on April 03, 2017, 07:11:28 PM
Quote from: 62 Max on April 02, 2017, 10:20:39 AM
The black cap is 65 and earlier,the original Prestolite cap,both tan and black have the Prestolite IBK1003 part number molded inside,if that number is not there it is an after market cap.
My tan caps all have a black gasket on the bottom, to seal it to the distributor. :Twocents:
They're probably Atlas.
Quote from: Arnie Cunningham on April 03, 2017, 07:38:20 PM
I guess as long as we are on this subject, are there any identifying marks on an original 1969 or 1970 2444 507 tan cap for the single point distributor engines?
Only thing I see on the ones I have are a little # 1 on the inside as shown. :2thumbs:
Quote from: 62 Max on April 03, 2017, 09:21:37 PM
Quote from: odcics2 on April 03, 2017, 07:11:28 PM
Quote from: 62 Max on April 02, 2017, 10:20:39 AM
The black cap is 65 and earlier,the original Prestolite cap,both tan and black have the Prestolite IBK1003 part number molded inside,if that number is not there it is an after market cap.
My tan caps all have a black gasket on the bottom, to seal it to the distributor. :Twocents:
They're probably Atlas.
In original MoPar boxes??
No... They are Nascar race caps.
Got them from Cotton and Don White.
I think I have a black one with brass terminals and a gasket... Chrysler Marine application.
Since we have discussed the coil wire boots and distributor caps what about the rest of the boots on the cap??
I have attached two pictures for your viewing.
The first is from my 1969 440 Daytona that shows 5 boots that are 90 degrees and 3 straight.
The second is from my 1970 440 six barrel Superbird that shows 4 boots that are 90 degrees and 4 straight.
Did this change from year to year?
Were there specific wires that got the angled boots?
MJ
My Q2-69 set had 5 angled, 3 straight.
Same on my bird.
Another photo
Thanks John.
Here is a bigger shot of it......