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Title: I drove my Superbird Sunday night, in the dark!!
Post by: 70Sbird on July 09, 2008, 10:33:18 PM
I pushed my headlight switch into the "on" position and pulled out of the garage with my headlights up and turned on!
That may not sound like much to any of you but I was more turned on than the headlights! :o
This is the first time in the seven years I've owned the car that I've had working headlights. I was just going to revive my other old threads about the vacuum headlights and actuator woes, but the bottom line is that Allen Wilson is the man!
After two  different "new" sets of reproduction actuators, and a couple off of E-bag, I  bought a great working original one, and sent one to Wilson products (air grabber restoration guy): http://www.n96airgrabber.com/ (ftp://http://www.n96airgrabber.com/) to be rebuilt. The one I sent him was totally trashed, and he made it like new again. He will be getting the other one this fall when I park the car for the winter.

Just a note to the wing car guys, the new actuators available out there are 1968 versions and our cars use the 1969 parts. There is a difference!
one another positive note, I've swapped out more actuators since April than I should likely have to in the rest of My life. I can now swap out a set of two in about 20 minutes though!
:icon_smile_big:

(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w23/faulksa/Taldgacrop-1.jpg)
Title: Re: I drove my Superbird Sunday night, in the dark!!
Post by: tan top on July 10, 2008, 01:14:02 AM
nice looking Superbird  :drool5:   would like to see more pictures  sometime   :popcrn:   
Title: Re: I drove my Superbird Sunday night, in the dark!!
Post by: hemi68charger on July 10, 2008, 06:29:58 AM
That's great !!!!
If I get that elusive Daytona, then if I have problems, I know where to turn to.........   I have the exact picture.. I remember getting a pic of your car there at Talladega....

Troy
Title: Re: I drove my Superbird Sunday night, in the dark!!
Post by: moparstuart on July 10, 2008, 08:45:24 AM
Quote from: 70Sbird on July 09, 2008, 10:33:18 PM
I pushed my headlight switch into the "on" position and pulled out of the garage with my headlights up and turned on!
That may not sound like much to any of you but I was more turned on than the headlights! :o
This is the first time in the seven years I've owned the car that I've had working headlights. I was just going to revive my other old threads about the vacuum headlights and actuator woes, but the bottom line is that Allen Wilson is the man!
After two  different "new" sets of reproduction actuators, and a couple off of E-bag, I  bought a great working original one, and sent one to Wilson products (air grabber restoration guy): http://www.n96airgrabber.com/ (ftp://http://www.n96airgrabber.com/) to be rebuilt. The one I sent him was totally trashed, and he made it like new again. He will be getting the other one this fall when I park the car for the winter.

Just a note to the wing car guys, the new actuators available out there are 1968 versions and our cars use the 1969 parts. There is a difference!
one another positive note, I've swapped out more actuators since April than I should likely have to in the rest of My life. I can now swap out a set of two in about 20 minutes though!
:icon_smile_big:

(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w23/faulksa/Taldgacrop-1.jpg)
what does wilson charge to reman them ?    thats the last weak link in my system  ,New switch , new cannister , new vaccumm lines , and mine still bleed up in about an hours .

Title: Re: I drove my Superbird Sunday night, in the dark!!
Post by: hemi68charger on July 10, 2008, 08:47:06 AM
Quote from: moparstuart on July 10, 2008, 08:45:24 AM
what does wilson charge to reman them ?    thats the last weak link in my system  ,New switch , new cannister , new vaccumm lines , and mine still bleed up in about an hours .


Come on man.... Use duct tape !!!!!   :icon_smile_big:
Title: Re: I drove my Superbird Sunday night, in the dark!!
Post by: moparstuart on July 10, 2008, 09:12:04 AM
Quote from: hemi68charger on July 10, 2008, 08:47:06 AM
Quote from: moparstuart on July 10, 2008, 08:45:24 AM
what does wilson charge to reman them ?    thats the last weak link in my system  ,New switch , new cannister , new vaccumm lines , and mine still bleed up in about an hours .


Come on man.... Use duct tape !!!!!   :icon_smile_big:
thanks I wait to see the duct take all over that fresh Hemi car  :smilielol: :smilielol:
Title: Re: I drove my Superbird Sunday night, in the dark!!
Post by: hemi68charger on July 10, 2008, 09:19:49 AM
Quote from: moparstuart on July 10, 2008, 09:12:04 AM
Quote from: hemi68charger on July 10, 2008, 08:47:06 AM
Quote from: moparstuart on July 10, 2008, 08:45:24 AM
what does wilson charge to reman them ?    thats the last weak link in my system  ,New switch , new cannister , new vaccumm lines , and mine still bleed up in about an hours .


Come on man.... Use duct tape !!!!!   :icon_smile_big:
thanks I wait to see the duct take all over that fresh Hemi car  :smilielol: :smilielol:

Too late........................... It's fixed..........   :icon_smile_big:
Title: Re: I drove my Superbird Sunday night, in the dark!!
Post by: moparstuart on July 10, 2008, 09:21:57 AM
Quote from: hemi68charger on July 10, 2008, 09:19:49 AM
Quote from: moparstuart on July 10, 2008, 09:12:04 AM
Quote from: hemi68charger on July 10, 2008, 08:47:06 AM
Quote from: moparstuart on July 10, 2008, 08:45:24 AM
what does wilson charge to reman them ?    thats the last weak link in my system  ,New switch , new cannister , new vaccumm lines , and mine still bleed up in about an hours .


Come on man.... Use duct tape !!!!!   :icon_smile_big:
  thanks I wait to see the duct take all over that fresh Hemi car  :smilielol: :smilielol:

Too late........................... It's fixed..........   :icon_smile_big:
yeah i figured as much
:smilielol:
Title: Re: I drove my Superbird Sunday night, in the dark!!
Post by: Aero426 on July 10, 2008, 09:25:34 AM
Scott, what have you found to be the difference between the repro actuators and OEM?    What is the diff between 68 style and 69?
Title: Re: I drove my Superbird Sunday night, in the dark!!
Post by: 70Sbird on July 10, 2008, 11:05:47 AM
Wilson charges $170 per actuator including shipping.
The 2 sets of new actuators were the ones that can be purchased through a couple of vendors, I got mine from BE&A. Mike was wonderfull to work with on this ordeal, his customer service is outstanding, he was very supportive and has won a customer because of it. As far as I can tell all of the reproductions are of the part number 2889883, the 1968 actuator with a large magnet in the bottom of the "closed" end of the actuator housing, and possibly an inferior seal design (I don't know this to be a fact). The first set I received was just plain in-operational, and would not work at all, Mike replaced them with my second set that he tested prior to shipping. These would physically work but would  would not hold vacuum on the "rod" end for any time at all. The Daytonas and Superbirds use a part # 2926961 - 1969 part, they both look identical, but the 1969 part has no big magnet inside, and I have a 39 year old used actuator that still holds vacuum on the rod end. I believe that the magnet is designed to hold the door in the rod "retracted" position on a standard Charger. on a normal charger these parts are probably interchangeable and the new parts would be OK. On a Wing car where it is supporting the weight of the headlight bucket assembly (without springs) they won't work. even with the springs installed there will still be a leak path on the rod end. but function should be normal.
These have been my observations, I would welcome anyone's additional insight.
here are the old and new side by side, and the "old" holding the vacuum that the new wouldn't
(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w23/faulksa/Actuator1.jpg)
(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w23/faulksa/Actuator3.jpg)
(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w23/faulksa/Actuator5.jpg)
Title: Re: I drove my Superbird Sunday night, in the dark!!
Post by: moparstuart on July 10, 2008, 11:17:49 AM
 sorry about your trouble , but thanks for the insight on the problem.
Title: Re: I drove my Superbird Sunday night, in the dark!!
Post by: BigBlockSam on July 10, 2008, 12:37:30 PM
:scratchchin:  intresting .
Title: Re: I drove my Superbird Sunday night, in the dark!!
Post by: pettybird on July 10, 2008, 08:50:44 PM
figure out those ignition system issues and you won't need me any more  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: I drove my Superbird Sunday night, in the dark!!
Post by: notabird on July 11, 2008, 08:03:54 AM
good to hear from you 70sbird, I just mentioned to Sherri that I hadnt seen anything from you in a while. Brent
Title: Re: I drove my Superbird Sunday night, in the dark!!
Post by: 70Sbird on July 11, 2008, 08:19:39 AM
Brent,
I'm still alive!
I started a new job May 1st and have been doing quite a bit of traveling since then and have been pretty tied up.
I got the 'Bird and my "other" (non-Mopar) car uncovered and out for the first time in Mid-June!  :brickwall:That is pretty pathetic.
I'm going to hopefully be able to get some projects complete here in the next few weeks though.
The headlights have been on my to-do list forever, and I still have a few "tweaks" to do on them, such as some repair work on the adjustable stops, and aiming the lights. Just minor details at this point. I have my hotels booked for September so you'll definitely see me then!

and Doug,
Each year has been a different roadside ordeal for me, so keep the toolbox handy! Who know what will fall apart on the Superturd this season!




Title: Re: I drove my Superbird Sunday night, in the dark!!
Post by: nascarxx29 on July 11, 2008, 06:39:41 PM
Another post about other than using the #961
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,10967.0.html