Anyone have any input on this Daytona?
I have a strange marking about it in the registry and I cant remember why...... :scratchchin:
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please do tell
Its purty
maybe it used to be a vega?
That's the former white one that was being sold on ebay.... I've talked to the gent about the car.. It was originally T5, was white recently and now it's going back to T5.........
Troy
Hmm...I knew something was up with the car. Anychance you have the tag info Troy?
Quote from: Just 6T9_CHGR.... on February 05, 2006, 08:26:47 PM
Hmm...I knew something was up with the car. Anychance you have the tag info Troy?
Sorry Chris... I don't have anything.. We just had some passing emails concenring my cars and his.. Didn't want to get too detailed in my questions....
Troy
The man who owned it before CAMopars lived in MO, he belonged it HPAC HIGE PERFORMANCE AUTO CLUB outa KC. IT was at the meets annual show in KC last year before it sold on e-bay for $124.000 i think. Some thing is wrong hear, it had AC on in KC even the dash frame was changed. Now look at the pics, NO AC. I spoke with the past owner and he told me that the car was vary ruff when he got it-bad rust. Hope it is not a rebody!.Buyer be ware. JR. :icon_smile_cool:
Haha, just can't wait to sell it can they!
looks nice
(In my opinion) man, that is an ugly color....
Quote from: PocketThunder on February 05, 2006, 10:26:36 PM
(In my opinion) man, that is an ugly color....
T5's ugly?.....
Quote from: hemi68charger on February 05, 2006, 10:28:37 PM
Quote from: PocketThunder on February 05, 2006, 10:26:36 PM
(In my opinion) man, that is an ugly color....
T5's ugly?.....
I've grown to like T7, but the lighter shades aren't so dear to my heart....
This should be the old thread on this car. Member 65post had an interesting old advertisement.
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,903.0.html
Ahh yes now I remember.
I do like it in the T5 color myself.
I like it on that car for sure! Kinda odd isn't it that someone would go through the trouble to make a car like that "non-AC" ?
Chris, if you read the old post though you'll see that I'm the one that took a stab and guessed it was car XX29L9B414395. I was going off of the information of it being car number 394 on the shipment list. I was lazy and used a sheet Gene sent me, and he said it was off by a few digits from the list.
However it does appear by the old add that 65Post put on there that XX29L9B414395 could have been rebodied along the way. Tan interior car.
that white daytona dosen't look in ruff shape. plus thats kinda fast turn around time on that type of restol. are you sure thats the same car.?
Quote from: WINGMAN on February 05, 2006, 09:18:51 PM
The man who owned it before CAMopars lived in MO, he belonged it HPAC HIGE PERFORMANCE AUTO CLUB outa KC. IT was at the meets annual show in KC last year before it sold on e-bay for $124.000 i think. Some thing is wrong hear, it had AC on in KC even the dash frame was changed. Now look at the pics, NO AC. I spoke with the past owner and he told me that the car was vary ruff when he got it-bad rust. Hope it is not a rebody!.Buyer be ware. JR. :icon_smile_cool:
The car looks to still have the A/C hole in the firewall in the new Ebay pics.
Edit: After looking closer that may just be the heater core hole for non A/C. I will look for some pics of a A/C firewall.
Those may be two different cars. The license plates are different, and BBS is right, seems like an awfully-fast turnaround time for a resto paint job. Could be wrong on that though.
What I don't get, is the T5 eBay cars' claim to be the first Canadian Export Daytona... Not anywhere close, from my records. If that car's VIN ends with 635 as the radiator core support pic shows, then it's car #394 from the list as Danny pointed out on a previous thread. 414619 is the first Daytona shipped out anywhere, much less Canada.
Doesn't make sense to me...
Quote from: hemigeno on February 06, 2006, 12:06:57 PM
Those may be two different cars. The license plates are different, and BBS is right, seems like an awfully-fast turnaround time for a resto paint job. Could be wrong on that though.
What I don't get, is the T5 eBay cars' claim to be the first Canadian Export Daytona... Not anywhere close, from my records. If that car's VIN ends with 635 as the radiator core support pic shows, then it's car #394 from the list as Danny pointed out on a previous thread. 414619 is the first Daytona shipped out anywhere, much less Canada.
Doesn't make sense to me...
:scratchchin: Very interesting Geno............
Troy
Quote from: 694spdRT on February 06, 2006, 12:02:25 PM
Quote from: WINGMAN on February 05, 2006, 09:18:51 PM
The man who owned it before CAMopars lived in MO, he belonged it HPAC HIGE PERFORMANCE AUTO CLUB outa KC. IT was at the meets annual show in KC last year before it sold on e-bay for $124.000 i think. Some thing is wrong hear, it had AC on in KC even the dash frame was changed. Now look at the pics, NO AC. I spoke with the past owner and he told me that the car was vary ruff when he got it-bad rust. Hope it is not a rebody!.Buyer be ware. JR. :icon_smile_cool:
The car looks to still have the A/C hole in the firewall in the new Ebay pics.
Edit: After looking closer that may just be the heater core hole for non A/C. I will look for some pics of a A/C firewall.
I agree - comparing it to my firewall - I don't even see the heater blower motor nor the hole for it..
There's no hole for the control valve, either.
If they are 2 different cars the same owner has two original Canadian T5 Daytona's with non #'s drivetrains and no buildsheets. If you look at the email address in the Deals on Wheels add and the Ebay auction they are the same. Both are also in Westminster, CA. :shruggy:
Quote from: dodgecharger-fan on February 06, 2006, 12:33:15 PM
Quote from: 694spdRT on February 06, 2006, 12:02:25 PM
Quote from: WINGMAN on February 05, 2006, 09:18:51 PM
The man who owned it before CAMopars lived in MO, he belonged it HPAC HIGE PERFORMANCE AUTO CLUB outa KC. IT was at the meets annual show in KC last year before it sold on e-bay for $124.000 i think. Some thing is wrong hear, it had AC on in KC even the dash frame was changed. Now look at the pics, NO AC. I spoke with the past owner and he told me that the car was vary ruff when he got it-bad rust. Hope it is not a rebody!.Buyer be ware. JR. :icon_smile_cool:
The car looks to still have the A/C hole in the firewall in the new Ebay pics.
Edit: After looking closer that may just be the heater core hole for non A/C. I will look for some pics of a A/C firewall.
I agree - comparing it to my firewall - I don't even see the heater blower motor nor the hole for it..
There's no hole for the control valve, either.
Thanks for the pic. Definately not an A/C firewall in there now so it looks like the firewall was either changed, welded up, or this is another car. ???
Its definately not getting the bidding action like the last one that was on ebay.......others might know something is up as well :scratchchin:
Quote from: dodgecharger-fan on February 06, 2006, 12:33:15 PM
Quote from: 694spdRT on February 06, 2006, 12:02:25 PM
Quote from: WINGMAN on February 05, 2006, 09:18:51 PM
The man who owned it before CAMopars lived in MO, he belonged it HPAC HIGE PERFORMANCE AUTO CLUB outa KC. IT was at the meets annual show in KC last year before it sold on e-bay for $124.000 i think. Some thing is wrong hear, it had AC on in KC even the dash frame was changed. Now look at the pics, NO AC. I spoke with the past owner and he told me that the car was vary ruff when he got it-bad rust. Hope it is not a rebody!.Buyer be ware. JR. :icon_smile_cool:
The car looks to still have the A/C hole in the firewall in the new Ebay pics.
Edit: After looking closer that may just be the heater core hole for non A/C. I will look for some pics of a A/C firewall.
I agree - comparing it to my firewall - I don't even see the heater blower motor nor the hole for it..
There's no hole for the control valve, either.
Is that picture even of an aerocar. I can't make it out very clearly, but it doesn't look like it's got the rear window plug in it.. Looks like the original rear pillars are still visible....
Troy
Quote from: hemi68charger on February 06, 2006, 01:24:31 PM
Quote from: dodgecharger-fan on February 06, 2006, 12:33:15 PM
I agree - comparing it to my firewall - I don't even see the heater blower motor nor the hole for it..
There's no hole for the control valve, either.
Is that picture even of an aerocar. I can't make it out very clearly, but it doesn't look like it's got the rear window plug in it.. Looks like the original rear pillars are still visible....
Troy
I think dodgecharger-fan was only posting a shot of an A/C firewall, not necessarily an Aerocar A/C firewall. Good eyes though!
Quote from: hemigeno on February 06, 2006, 02:19:40 PM
Quote from: hemi68charger on February 06, 2006, 01:24:31 PM
Quote from: dodgecharger-fan on February 06, 2006, 12:33:15 PM
I agree - comparing it to my firewall - I don't even see the heater blower motor nor the hole for it..
There's no hole for the control valve, either.
Is that picture even of an aerocar. I can't make it out very clearly, but it doesn't look like it's got the rear window plug in it.. Looks like the original rear pillars are still visible....
Troy
I think dodgecharger-fan was only posting a shot of an A/C firewall, not necessarily an Aerocar A/C firewall. Good eyes though!
Ahhhhhhhhh, you're right.. I misread the reply..... My bad.... :icon_smile_blackeye:
Troy
yeah no activity really there were just two daytonas on ebay ashort while ago and may still be on there a hemi orange one restored version and a nice f6 4-spd car and there was lots of action happenin on them,if i had the $$$ id buy this one as im more of a fan of projects then completed cars as when u build it u know how its done as to done cars u dont-MATT
I thought that the Daytona's sold to the public didn't have the hole cut in the fender for the scoop. I guess that isn't true?
(http://i23.ebayimg.com/04/i/06/2c/af/85_3.JPG)
Quote from: MyMopar on February 06, 2006, 03:37:24 PM
I thought that the Daytona's sold to the public didn't have the hole cut in the fender for the scoop. I guess that isn't true?
(http://i23.ebayimg.com/04/i/06/2c/af/85_3.JPG)
Nope,, unlike the later Superbirds, the Daytonas actually had the cutouts and screen......
Troy
Daytona's did have the hole, Superbirds did not.
The hole might be great for on the track, but you can mess up a nice paint job with rocks, mud, debris that flies through that screen. Some guys will stuff a sponge in the scoop while cruising to keep the crud from chipping the paint on the fender.
*edit* Yeah, what Troy said!!!... :P
i like that color. it's unusual
I've always liked how people put spounges in the scoops on their daytona's. Its kind of funny when you notice at a show that they removed 1 of them but forgot about the other one.
On my car, I am going to mask out the top of the fender,and use pin stripe tape to mask off the pattern of the screen,then use matte black paint to make a screen like appearance under the scoop,and when I remove the tape, it will apprear to be screen,but will only be paint,this will keep the dirt off the fenders,and look correct if anyone looks under the scoop!
couldn't you apply something black to the underside of the vent to cover it but keep the appearance?
Quote from: chargervert on February 06, 2006, 06:18:55 PM
On my car, I am going to mask out the top of the fender,and use pin stripe tape to mask off the pattern of the screen,then use matte black paint to make a screen like appearance under the scoop,and when I remove the tape, it will apprear to be screen,but will only be paint,this will keep the dirt off the fenders,and look correct if anyone looks under the scoop!
That is almost exactly what I did. Good idea Vert.
Quote from: Daytona Guy on February 06, 2006, 10:44:21 PM
Quote from: chargervert on February 06, 2006, 06:18:55 PM
On my car, I am going to mask out the top of the fender,and use pin stripe tape to mask off the pattern of the screen,then use matte black paint to make a screen like appearance under the scoop,and when I remove the tape, it will apprear to be screen,but will only be paint,this will keep the dirt off the fenders,and look correct if anyone looks under the scoop!
That is almost exactly what I did. Good idea Vert. Another good idea. People will look into my scoops then look into to wheel well and not see daylight, but if you put a cover under ... you can pull a double trick.
I was going to say to go ahead and cut the hole, and put in the screen, but attach something to the inner fender to cover up the hole. So it would be there, but something could act as a barrier for the dirt and debris.
Quote from: Just 6T9_CHGR.... on February 05, 2006, 06:37:53 PM
Anyone have any input on this Daytona?
I have a strange marking about it in the registry and I cant remember why...... :scratchchin:
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This is car 414635 I saw 10 years ago in Montreal before it was sold to a guy in western Ontario who then sold it to someone in the US.These are not the pics I took of the car but it is the car.Car was VERY rough with no motor or trans but it did come with the fender tag.The wing in the pic is not white but raw aluminum.
wow, that cars come a long way
Quote from: BigBlockSam on February 07, 2006, 10:36:44 PM
wow, that cars come a long way
Or one that looks like it.No that can`t be the one it`s white with a black gut and has an AC firewall.oops now has no AC.I give up!
65Post,
I believe it is the same car as the Bronze one being advertised now.
The white car is not the same car however. The white car got thrown into the mix by a mistake I made in the last thread, I put in the wrong VIN by the shipment list.
Seen it before on ebay california mopars .I believe is Rich P sixpack gate net
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,903.msg90880.html#msg90880
Not to do with this car but does anyone have info on Another T5 - 414627
Quote from: nascarxx29 on February 08, 2006, 08:52:24 AM
Seen it before on ebay california mopars .I believe is Rich P sixpack gate net
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,903.msg90880.html#msg90880
Nope, it's Dave out of California, Rich is in Florida.......
65post I have some info on the other VIN you listed, if you'd like PM me.
I know Rich P is a Fl based seller.But He freelances Im sure Ive seen ads for him in others states
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Re: White Daytona on eBay
« Reply #43 on: January 08, 2006, 06:53:35 PM »
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I see this white daytona for sale that looks to be the one from ebay.And seller is that guy .sixpackgate.net.Thats who I mentioning previously always has alot of wing cars. I think his name is Rich P.As the ad I recall seeing a ad for contact info had a email I have come to recognize
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• Year 1969
• Make Dodge
• Model Charger Daytona
• Description 440 4-bbl, PS, PB, AT, NOM Eng or Trans, No Build Sheet, AC Installed, Original T5 Copper, Now White with Black Interior, Bucket Seats with Center Console.
• Price $179,000 obo
• Phone 714-742-2832
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Heres the proof 1968 Hemi charger Troy even though we all know of Rich P in listed as a Fl .Broker he may freelance.You can plainly see this white daytona has a [[[[[[[[[California listing]]]]]]]]]]]]].But uses Fl based Rich P email for contact info.Or the 2 sellers share a very similar email address.Or Rich P uses to similar email address on different sites .I got his profile from the super car site
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That's cool Dave.. All I meant was that Rich didn't own it.. That listing is pretty much a mute point now that the car's been painted T5... I've seen that ad before.. The original question on the thread addressed the current ebay ad and who knows info on it and I pointed out that it wasn't Rich, but Dave....
Troy
Thanks the one thing for sure is authenticate this car .before laying down big dollars.As I have read posts about firewall frame rail etc changed out .Or maybe even a rebody?
Quote from: cudaken on August 07, 2005, 10:05:22 AM
Man that a friend's car, Jim. I have drove the Daytona as well and it is a sweet ride. I just called Jim but got his voice's mail.
Jim got the Daytona out of Canada and a rust free Charger out of Calf. He had to replaces the right frame rail's and rocker. Also did use the fire wall for the AC.
Geno, Jim Daytona was at Monster Mopar in 2002 and 2003 as well.
All I can hope is Jim is selling because he has found something cooler, not because he need's the money. About 2 year's ago the company he worked closed.
Jim took 4 year's to do the work, Daytona was done at his house with help of some friends. Inside look's like it is 1969 again look's perfect.
Cuda Ken
Quote from: nascarxx29 on February 09, 2006, 06:30:06 AM
Heres the proof 1968 Hemi charger Troy even though we all know of Rich P in listed as a Fl .Broker he may freelance.You can plainly see this white daytona has a [[[[[[[[[California listing]]]]]]]]]]]]].But uses Fl based Rich P email for contact info.Or the 2 sellers share a very similar email address.Or Rich P uses to similar email address on different sites .I got his profile from the super car site
http://www.dealsonwheels.com/search/detailbig.cfm/Autos__ID/106075
Dave, if you go to Jan's moparts.com "cars for sale", there's a listing there as well...
1969 Charger Daytona, T5 Copper, AT, PS, PB. $190K OBO.
Contact Dave at sixpack@gte.net or call 714-742-2832 for more details.
I believe Rich's email address starts with 69sixpack or something to that effect for he has a '69 1/2 "M" code Superbee.........
sixpack@gte.net is Dave's email, not Rich's in Fl.
Thanks for the update info and clearing that up Email [[[[sixpack9@gate.net]]]
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Is those 2 nearly identical emails that are confusing .Rich P has SIXPACK9@GATE.NET
SIXPACK@GTE.NET For Dave in california
Quote from: nascarxx29 on February 09, 2006, 08:25:46 AM
Thanks for the update info and clearing that up Email [[[[sixpack9@gate.net]]]
Member # 22
Name Rich P
Is those 2 nearly identical emails that are confusing .Rich P has SIXPACK9@GATE.NET
SIXPACK@GTE.NET For Dave in california
:icon_smile_big: No problem.. I knew I was right.. You had me starting to believe I was going insane Dave........ :-\
Yeap,,, I did some searching to high-end cars and found Rich's email, sixpack9 prefix.............. Weird that both brokers have emails SO close to each other............
Troy
So did anyone ever figure out what the VIN was for the white car on ebay a few months back then? It wasn't the T5 car, I was the one who posted the wrong VIN to begin with and never got around to trying to figure out what VIN it should have been.
I think its 410786
You think that is the one for the white car that had the A/C firewall?
Not really a big Daytona Fan, but that color looks great on that car. :thumbs:
I think thats the car 69 500 410786 was from Fred MCnallys Mi.Sold new in Mi. Was painted green but originally white.Jim B who also gotten the SE daytona from canada seen on carsinbarns.Had this and the other daytona.I believe
I see that they have added pics of the tag & dash VIN......tag looks legit to me....... :scratchchin:
I see they got the seats done as well....no headrests ????
The vin and tag are legit.The body? I don`t know.
Quote from: 65post on February 11, 2006, 12:14:23 AM
The vin and tag are legit.The body? I don`t know.
Sad to think about it, but that same statement probably applies to a lot of cars...
:rotz:
She's gone! Someone bit the bullet and hit the BIN for 185k! Looks like they took the tag pics off as well.
Gonna be a real nice color combo Daytona when she's finished
Darn it guess I missed out on seeing the tag. I should have checked this agian last night before I went to bed, either that or woke up sooner.
I saved the vin+tag pics on my other computer at home.If no one puts them up in the mean time I will post them later.
Heres the fender & VIN tag
Quote from: 69_500 on February 11, 2006, 08:02:37 AM
Darn it guess I missed out on seeing the tag. I should have checked this agian last night before I went to bed, either that or woke up sooner.
They pulled the pics of the tag last night before I went to bed, so I didn't get to see them until Chris posted them just now.
And FWIW, it is indeed car #394 on the Ship List. I don't know what prompted that VIN or # from the list to come up before, but I double-checked my spreadsheet against the newsletter lists and it is correct at that point.
Are there traces of white paint on the tag?
:stirthepot:
Hmmm so the plot thickens.
The car is now back up on eBay - again... Same Buy-it-now price as before.
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Quote from: hemigeno on February 11, 2006, 08:03:26 PM
Are there traces of white paint on the tag?
:stirthepot:
Yes. :yesnod:
I bet alot of people don`t know that 10 years ago someone stuffed a satalite trunk and frame rails in this pretty wing car! A lot has CHANGED since then.
Run far away !
Run far away? What makes you say that?
Do you have some pertinent information about the car for sale?
By the way welcome to the site.
Thanks for the welcome 69500...
What makes me say run?
Maybe I was overly harsh, but it was a very rough car to begin wth that's all, and has gone through many changes. See all the other posts in prior two pages.
By the way John, I'm Danny Liebrandt, we did a video shoot with you at Englishtown. If you recall. I didn't have a car there that weekend, was just doing a video.
Hi Dan...hope you and your Dad are well. See you in the spring at Englisthtown hopefully. Hope the 500 is doing good.
John
Hopefully I'll be back at Englishtown. I don't think my dad will make it with me this year, so it will probably be just me there.
The 500 is fine, or at least it was when I parked it in November. Haven't gotten it out since then. If all goes well I might drive it over to either Englishtown or Carlisle this year.