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Title: all known bird list???
Post by: DoubleDlover on July 16, 2022, 05:09:21 AM
OK so i know about the list of vin numbers. 1920 of them or something like that.  But has anyone put together a list of the known survivors??
Title: Re: all known bird list???
Post by: PettyMower on July 18, 2022, 11:37:27 AM
"Survivors" as in un-restored, or "known to still exist"?
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Post by: Birdflu on July 18, 2022, 01:46:43 PM
I took it as "known to exist today"...
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Post by: PettyMower on July 18, 2022, 01:49:02 PM
The registry (or registries) have been documenting "known" cars for years.
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Post by: nascarxx29 on July 18, 2022, 11:36:46 PM
Clubs started in early days compiling membership of wing car owners
Title: Re: all known bird list???
Post by: DoubleDlover on July 21, 2022, 05:25:21 AM
Yes. I meant just ones that have been found. Still around. Not crushed.  So how does one get a list of known birds still around??
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Post by: nascarxx29 on July 21, 2022, 12:40:32 PM
Not easily done try the clubs .I usually check auction results including vins and various posts
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Post by: Homerr on August 07, 2022, 10:17:56 AM
You are welcome to use the data from the registry in my sig to come up with the number of survivors.   :cheers:
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Post by: Alaskan_TA on August 07, 2022, 10:39:02 AM
One could be reported today, destroyed by fire or a bad accident right after.

There are also cars off the radar, so there is really no way to know how many are still alive on any given day.

There are also cases of the numbers from dead cars being used to VIN swap other bodies.......

So an accurate list of real cars that still survive on any given day would be close to impossible.
Title: Re: all known bird list???
Post by: TexasDave on August 08, 2022, 02:22:16 PM
I'm glad this topic of Bird numbers has been brought up and maybe we can generate some discussion.  We love our Birds and most of us are happy to register our information with the clubs that have some type of register.  I have often wondered what has become of that valuable information who is compiling the data and what is being done with the information?    If the entities having Bird registration sites are not compiling the information and providing some type of report, what are they doing with the information?  Why have a registration if nothing is done with the information? 
I know other sites such as the T/A AAR registry has updated, very useful data and that information is available.  It is very well established and provides great information regarding numbers, colors, options, etc.  without revealing confidential type of information.   I checked one club that has a wing car registry and it looks like it was last updated in 2012.
I feel that if we provide information about our cars, the collector of the information should have some responsibility to the  contributors and other people  who love these cars to provide some basic data from their registration.  It is hard to believe that there is no single place to obtain basic data about the number of birds, colors, maybe options, etc.  Importantly, because of the value of these cars, some type of central source of information could be valuable in combating clones, rebodies, etc.
I understand that it would take time, energy and technology to establish and monitor a credible Superbird (or a general category of wing cars?) registration site, but the results would be appreciated by our mopar community.