I have just begun to install some of the interior components on my '69 Charger R/T SE floor shifted automatic with no AC. This thread will be similar to my Complete Steering and Suspension Rebuild thread (http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,15396.0.html) that I used last summer to ask questions, answer questions and document as much as I could with regards to the process. This thread will be around for quite some time as I will continually add to it as I go along and the pace that I work at, well..... :shruggy:
As some of you may already know, I used Lizard Skin as a heat & sound barrier on the interior of my car which is why you see the sheet metal coated in black rather than the F6 paint that it had from the factory. If you're interested in reading about that process, you can read more here:
Interior Insulation - Heat, Noise & Rust Prevention - http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,26217.0.html
After that was taken care of, I was able to start with the assembly process. I was very pleased to reach this point as I spent a lot of time last summer restoring parts only to have them be tucked away into storage. Although I knew I was accomplishing a lot, it didn't seem that way and there were times when I'd get frustrated and discouraged doing a lot of work and not seeing any immediate benefit, which I know is common when restoring a vehicle. The same could be said about purchasing parts, months in advance, only to have them sit in boxes stashed away. As frustrating as this may be, it is worth as the assembly process is moving along at a decent pace now that I have all of these items at my disposal and ready to go.
I started the assembly process by installing the under-dash insulation, wiper transmission, throttle pedal bracket and the firewall insulation. The insulation was purchased at YO and the wiper transmission and throttle pedal bracket were restored by myself. The throttle pedal bracket was pretty straightforward, sandblast and paint so there was no thread started for that however I did show off my wiper linkage back in September in this thread:
Wiper Linkage Restoration - http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?topic=17700.msg196353
Next was the parking brake pedal and brake pedal assemblies, which were also restored last year. The parking brake pedal went in first and before I tightened everything up I installed the front-to-rear cable and the grommet to make sure everything was going to fit like it was supposed to. I sprayed some grease onto the ratchet assembly to ensure ease of operation for the next 40 years. The brake pedal assembly went in with no problems, other than some nicked knuckles. You can read about the restoration of these parts here:
Brake Pedal & Parking Brake Pedal Restoration - http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,18242.0.html
The heater box was ready to go in. I took the time to test the motor and ensure the wheel was balanced before installing this piece. I had all of the gaskets installed and installation was easy as although I thought I could use a hand installing this, I did it alone and it worked out fine. The fresh air vent box on the drivers side also went in with no issues. Yes it can be awkward laying on your back trying to get it in there but all in all, no worries. You can read about the restoration of these items here:
Heater Box Restoration - http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,13150.0.html
Next on the list is the dash assembly & wiring and then I'll be under the hood installing some mechanical parts like the brake booster, vacuum canister & hoses, some wiring and a few other odds and ends.
It'll be a while before I get back to the farm so bear with me as the next update will be a few weeks from now.
Here are some progress photos.
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Mike,
Youre hired to help me do mine over when it needs to be done. You certainly have high standards (which is ok in my book) :2thumbs:
Looking good! :yesnod:
Looks great Mike!
Just a question on the side here Shakey, but with all the time you spend on the road, do you find it a detriment to restoring the car or does it help? What I mean to say is, does proceeding slowly help you to continue with the attention to detail you keep showing, or does it frustrate the hell out of you and make you want to rush when you get a chance at the car?
oooooo shiny stuff :icon_smile_big: Looks good and gonna look great when it's all done. :yesnod:
As usual, excellent work Shakey. You're raising the bar, that's for sure. That's a good thing.
Quote from: Ghoste on May 11, 2007, 09:44:48 AM
Just a question on the side here Shakey, but with all the time you spend on the road, do you find it a detriment to restoring the car or does it help? What I mean to say is, does proceeding slowly help you to continue with the attention to detail you keep showing, or does it frustrate the hell out of you and make you want to rush when you get a chance at the car?
Thanks for all the compliments folks as usual I appreciate them and as I have said in the past, there are many members here on the site that have helped with questions/answers as well as the inspiration to do it right the first time. :cheers:
Now as far as being on the road so much, well honestly I don't think it gets in the way. The reason I say that is because I don't have access to the car throughout the week. It's stashed at my In-Laws farm about an hour West of my house so I only get to see/work on it on weekends, and not every one at that. My parents live an hour East of us and believe it or not, they want to see us sometimes too, in reality I think it's my children they want to see :icon_smile_tongue: . We also have friends that we get together with on weekends, so out of a month, I may only get to work on my car about two weekends outta four. Sometimes more, sometimes less.
I've learned to be patient with this car as there are aspects of the project that can hold up other tasks as I go. When I bought the car, the fella that sold it to me told me that "with three solid weeks of work, you could have this thing on the road". He may have been right but I chose to dive right in since the car was already apart. It was a perfect time to put new wiring in and to restore all the items that could be restored. When I am done with this car, I want to enjoy it and not have to work on something everytime I come home from a run out in the country. I don't want to dismantle it every winter to fix this or that, I want it done right the first time and by paying attention to all the details now, leaves me with the satisfaction of knowing that everything will work properly on the car once it's done. And yes Ghoste, it's frustrating as hell moving at this pace but..... :shruggy:
I won't be out there until sometime in June and I will continue to document my progress as I go. I guess a positive aspect of not working on it all the time is the ability to think ahead and plan the next task, order the parts I need and research how it should be done.
Thanks again folks.
Mike
Very nice as usual. Thank you for sharing your journey with us and taking the time to post pictures and provide detail that we will always have, to refer back too, in case we have questions.
It is invaluable.
v/r
Mike
I look forward to seeing it when it's done. You folks in Toronto are just close enough that I want to get around see the cars but just far enough that it's too far to drive. Maybe someday we'll have a Canadian Charger meet/ Ontario Region.
Please keep the pics coming. Hopefully in the next few weeks, I will be at the same stage....
Sorry it has taken me this long to update this thread but there's been a lot of activity in and out of the shop.
Some of the items I have been working on are the dash, the door latches, the quarter window regulators and the under dash wiring.
I'll start with the dash assembly.
Although the windshield in my car was not broken, it was definitely showing it's age so it was decided that it will be replaced prior to the car going on the road. Since I was going to pull the windshield, I might as well do it now and restore my dash as well. The dash itself wasn't in too bad of shape, the painted surface on the top looked pretty good and the pad was good but I wanted to restore the VIN tag (you can read about the process here: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,28336.0.html) and figured I might as well take the time to redo the dash as well. Not really a big deal as it was already stripped bare.
I used a paint/furniture stripper that I have spoke about in the past, very potent and powerful stuff that makes things very easy. Simply brush it on nice and thick and wipe away with numerous rags after a few minutes. The dash was down to bare metal in no time. I then cleaned it up really good with soap and water and sanded down all the areas I could get at with a 1000 grit and some water splashed on the dash. I got it really smooth and then washed it again with soap and water. I let it dry and then applied a few coats of Eastwood's Self Etching Primer. We then painted it with SEM Trim Black, it got about 3 coats of that.
Door Latches
I was also working on the door latches. I gutted the insides of the doors and photographed all the pieces that came out as I knew it would be some time before I could get at them. For all the linkage pieces I simply cleaned them up using the wire wheel. Got them somewhat shiny and stashed them while I worked on the latches. I used the same stripper on the latches to clean the years of hardened grease and the paint that was on them from the previous owner. Once they were down to bare metal I also gave them a couple of coats of primer. I have read about the gold cad plating process but I took the shortcut and painted them with the Eastwood's Gold Cad paint.
When I reinstalled them I used a clear rubber hose around the linkages to keep the rattling to a minimum. I used a lubricant inside the hoses to ensure they do not bind up. I cleaned all of the linkage clips with the wire wheel. I had my door handles re-chromed and they turned out very nice.
Quarter Window Regulators
I've heard a lot of horror stories about these things and although they were a pain, in reality - they weren't that bad to deal with. Yes, getting hem in and out can be trying but all in all, not too bad. Same as the latches, I took numerous photos to ensure an easy re-assembly process. To restore them I simply used the wire wheel for almost everything and a small wire wheel attached to an electric drill for the larger surfaces. I feel they cleaned up pretty good and I didn't bother to paint them. I bought the roller kit from YO a while back and used what I could from the kit. There were a couple of rollers that looked too difficult to replace so after a quick inspection and cleaning, I moved on.
Dash Wiring Harness
I bought this from YO and prior to installing it in the dash I used my wiring diagram and labelled all of the wires so that when it comes time to start installing the cluster and other items in the dash I can simply locate the wires and plug them in. I figured it would be easier to do this while it was on my work table than lying on my back on the floor. The harness fit in no problem and the lengths look to be correct. I'll update you later when I start plugging stuff in.
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And some more progress photos.
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Wiring harneses come up quite a bit so I thought I'd take a few shots of the M&H Harness only available at YO. Nice stuff!
very nice
its looking great but i have 1 question , why do so many people put the dash in and THEN put it together? it is SO much easier to do a really nice job routing the harness , adjusting the pads etc when its on a stand! then you just flop it in hook up the heater cables speedo cables and snap in the bulkhead and viola done. :Twocents:
Quote from: 1hot68 on July 25, 2007, 11:19:00 AM
its looking great but i have 1 question , why do so many people put the dash in and THEN put it together? it is SO much easier to do a really nice job routing the harness , adjusting the pads etc when its on a stand! then you just flop it in hook up the heater cables speedo cables and snap in the bulkhead and viola done. :Twocents:
I can't speak for so many people but my reasoning was that I have plenty of work yet to be done which includes farming the car out for a vinyl top and a headliner. I have a cluster that was restored by Redline that I have plenty of bread into and it's much safer in the basement as opposed to sitting in the dusty garage for the next few months. It'll be a while before I install the front padding and as far as routing the wiring harness, I did not find it that difficult to while the dash was in.
Perhaps when I do my second restoration I'll consider assembling the dash first but for now, things seem to be going OK.
Quote from: Shakey on July 25, 2007, 02:29:35 PM
Quote from: 1hot68 on July 25, 2007, 11:19:00 AM
its looking great but i have 1 question , why do so many people put the dash in and THEN put it together? it is SO much easier to do a really nice job routing the harness , adjusting the pads etc when its on a stand! then you just flop it in hook up the heater cables speedo cables and snap in the bulkhead and viola done. :Twocents:
I can't speak for so many people but my reasoning was that I have plenty of work yet to be done which includes farming the car out for a vinyl top and a headliner. I have a cluster that was restored by Redline that I have plenty of bread into and it's much safer in the basement as opposed to sitting in the dusty garage for the next few months. It'll be a while before I install the front padding and as far as routing the wiring harness, I did not find it that difficult to while the dash was in.
Perhaps when I do my second restoration I'll consider assembling the dash first but for now, things seem to be going OK.
just so you know i wasnt tring to be a a$$ just stating the way i feel . by the way the results of you work on that charger is very very nice !!
Quote from: 1hot68 on July 25, 2007, 11:19:00 AM
its looking great but i have 1 question , why do so many people put the dash in and THEN put it together? it is SO much easier to do a really nice job routing the harness , adjusting the pads etc when its on a stand! then you just flop it in hook up the heater cables speedo cables and snap in the bulkhead and viola done. :Twocents:
real nice job as always Shakey :2thumbs:, look foward to seeing more pictures as you progress :popcrn:
Mike,
You should print all of these postings out and make a nice book when you are finished with the car. It would certainly show off all of the hard work that you put into it. :cheers: :2thumbs:
AGREED!! There is always room for another Charger restoration book on the market too in my opinion.
Mike,
Looking great as usual!! I may have to call on you in a few years when I get to the point you are at if I get stuck!! I'll supply the brewskies!!
We still gotta hook up before the summer is over!!
:cheers:
Great Job Shakey.
But I have a question for you :
Do you spray paint all these parts with a rattle can or with a professional spray gun because your parts look very nice.
Wow - I guess it has been a while since this thread has been updated. :eek2:
Thanks for all the kind words folks and Brian, I know where you were coming from. :wave:
With regards to my painting procedures, the majority of the parts get the rattle can treatment but if I have a lot of items that are getting the same colour or a large item like the dash, a spray gun is used for that.
Since the last update I have put together my vent windows and my door glasses. I will add some updates as soon as I can and try and breathe some new life into this thread.
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Man you do great work, now I know why that upclose picture of your grille looked so perfect ( on my grille paint thread) , the whole car is done that way. Awesome work.
Quote from: 1969chargerrtse on January 15, 2008, 06:29:24 AM
Man you do great work, now I know why that upclose picture of your grille looked so perfect ( on my grille paint thread) , the whole car is done that way. Awesome work.
Thanks.
As mentioned, perhaps I'll update this today.
Beautiful job.....real craftmenship. It looks great! :2thumbs:
VERY NICE, Shakey! :2thumbs:
Looking forward to your progress updates, as well!!
Well thanks once again folks for the compliments and encouragement! It's been a while since I've done anything significant with the car however I can add an update to this thread of what I have done since my hiatus. I am just starting to get back into the project over the past couple of weekends.
Not much has changed in the dash area of the car so there is nothing to update on that. I did do some work towards getting the doors back together and when I saw Rack's thread/questions in another recent thread I figured this would be a good time to share some photos and some insight as to what I did with mine.
As usual, I took more than enough photos while taking everything apart. I'll start with the window channel that mounts to the rear inside of the door that the door glass (actually the stainless steel strip) slides up and down in.
When I took this piece out it was in pretty rough shape. Moisture had gotten between the rubber/felt piece and the channel itself and it had rusted pretty bad. It was still useable, it just needed some TLC.
The first photo shows the window regulator and the rear glass channel, the second photo gives you and idea of the rust that had to be cleaned out of there with the sandblaster and the third photo shows the rubber/felt piece that is riveted to the channel and will need to be replaced.
So, as mentioned, the channel had to be sandblasted to clean up all of the rust. I used some sandblasting tape to cover the small piece of plastic that I didn't want to damage and just avoided it when sandblasting. After it was cleaned up, it got a good coat of self etching primer and then a coat of Eastwood's Detail Gray. I know I don't need to add a coat of paint to an item that no one will see but hey....
There is a place called Restoration Specialties in PA. They have a great selection of items and a catalogue that can be downloaded from their site.
They can be reached at: http://www.restorationspecialties.com/
This is where I bought the rubber/felt piece that sits in the channel. It had to be trimmed to fit properly. It is on page # 18 of their catalogue and is part # AS990033.
I also take the time to clean all the threads after I wire wheel the nuts and bolts and this makes the installation process much easier.
The door glasses on these cars have a lot of small parts that need to be replaced or restored before going back together and fortunately most of the items are still available. I'll tell you what I did with mine.
On the front edge of the glass there is a piece of thin plastic with some felt lining on the outside and is held in place with two plastic window guides. This piece slides into the rear portion of the vent window frame and the glass slides up and down in this channel. The pieces are still available from your local Chrysler dealer, when I dig up the part number I'll post it. I paid about $60.00 CAD each a few months back.
To install this piece, I clamped it in place with some oversized paperclips and marked the spot where the holes needed to be punched and also where it needed to be trimmed. I used a belt punch to ensure a nice smooth hole for the plastic guides to go through.
When trimming the top, I used an old one for reference, make sure you trim far enough down so that when you install the glass into the frame it doesn't get bound up at the top where the screw that attaches the rear galvanized piece of the window frame to the front chrome piece.
The photos below show the old one as it came off of the car, and believe me, these are in good shape compared to some of the others I have seen.
The new one clamped in place and trimmed.
There is a bracket at the bottom of the glass that is held in place with a plastic rivet and glass setting tape. I removed mine, cleaned it up on the wire wheel and painted it with self etching primer and Eastwood's Detail Gray. I didn't paint the track that the window regulator roller moves in as I wanted that nice and smooth.
The glass setting tape can also be found at Restoration Specilaties (see the link a post or two above this one) and I ended up buying 10' of all three sizes they had available - 1/32", 3/64" and 1/16" because it'll come in handy in other areas of this project. All this stuff is is a thin layer of rubber, similar to a bicycle inner tube, there is no glue on it so it's not really a tape.
At the rear edge of the door glass is a stainless steel strip that has a piece of rubber/felt weatherstrip attached to seal the door glass and quarter glass together. This SS strip is held in place with glass setting tape (see above) and helps guide the window up and down in the channel mounted inside the door.
I removed mine from the glass by simply pulling it apart, took out the old weatherstrip piece and started to clean up the SS strip. I started by removing the old glue that was stuck on there since 1969. I used some lacquer thinner and an old toothbrush and it cleaned up pretty good. I then wetsanded it with 2000 grit paper and then buffed it all to a decent shine. Mind the piece of plastic that is located at the bottom of the strip. We'll get to that in a minute.
I ordered the rubber/felt weatherstripping from Restoration Specialties, on page # 67 part # CH2022. I used Permatex weatherstrip glue to put this piece in place. It had to be trimmed slightly for the plastic piece in the bottom to be able to slide freely, until we get the spring attached.
To reattach the SS strip to the door glass I used the glass setting tape. I cut a thin strip and wrapped it around the back of the glass. I then gently but firmly forced the SS strip into place. You'll want to get it as snug as possible to the top of the glass to avoid wind whistles.
Again, make sure it is snug at the top of the glass.
I mentioned earlier the small piece of plastic that is attached to the bottom of the SS strip that slides up and down. In reality, it shouldn't slide freely as it is used as an anti-rattle device, it is held in place with a spring and should be snug in place, free to move only with a certain amount of force. Nine times outta ten the spring is broken.
My Father-in-Law had a miscellanous box of springs at the farm and we were lucky enough to find a couple of pairs that we could work with. We chose the slighly more robust pair on the left (last photo) and had to cut them a bit shorter and re-loop one end. It seemed to work out pretty good.
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Nice work Mike. :2thumbs: Thats exactly where I'm at right now.
The vent frame assembly was a project in itself. Personally, I think re-chroming them is a must and to do it properly it has to be all torn apart. The difficult part is getting it back together.
To get it apart, remove the glass and rubber (be careful not to tear it as they clean up pretty good and can be re-used) from the frame.
There are two pieces to the frame, the leading edge is the heavy chrome frame that will have to be redone and the galvanized piece that simply needs to be sanded and cleaned. These two pieces are held together with metal posts that have been peened/pressed over. There are six posts in all and from all the examples I have seen, only four are ever used, leaving two for reassembly and some ingenuity. There is also a screw at the top that helps hold the two pieces together.
To separate these two pieces I clamped them to my work bench and used a small grinder (similar to a Dremel type tool) to grind around the peened piece of metal that is holding the two pieces together. As mentioned, there are six posts, two at the top where only one post is peened, two in the middle, where only one post is peened and two at the bottom, where both posts are peened. Gently grind around the peened posts so that you are able to separate the galvanized frame from the chrome frame. When they are loose, remove the screw at the top and they will separate.
These photos will give you an idea of what I am trying to explain with regards to the peened posts. The last photo shows the pieces separated before going out for re-chroming.
After the items came back from getting re-chromed, there were some minor issues that I'll touch on later. For now, we'll focus on getting things back together.
To reattach the galvanized frame to the chrome frame I mentioned the un-used posts that I plan on utilizing. Remember, there were two that I could use, one at the top and and one in the middle but at the bottom I had to think of something else. I had read about using epoxy and some folks will swear by it, other say it won't hold. I read about using a screw at the bottom as there is plenty of space down there and it would be as solid as a rock, so that's the route I went.
Prior to putting it back together I sanded the galvanized piece really good and polished the stainless steel trim that runs along the back of the vent window frame.
Clamp the lower frame to the work bench and clean up the old posts that you peened over when taking things apart. To ensure a firm hold while clamping this piece to the work bench, put a small piece of steel or wood in the channel as shown in the last photo.
During the chroming process small bits will have stuck to this area and you'll find that the galvanized frame won't seat properly. Use the same grinder and be careful as you don't want to muck up your freshly chromed piece.
Now that everything is clamped in place we were ready to drill the hole and tap it for the screw. At the bottom of the vent frame, right in corner is where you'll want to drill the hole. There is plenty of meat in the chrome piece for this. Drill through the galvanized frame, right into the chrome, deep enough that the screw will grip firmly.
Then tap it creating a thread for the screw to grip. We chose to use a nut between the galvanized frame and the chrome frame to keep things nice and snug. It's as solid as it's gonna get.
With that screw holding the bottom in place and another (factory) holding the top in place, it's now time to press the posts over to finalize the re-assembly process. I was fortunate enough to have access to a press that, with some minor modifications, worked like a charm.
The rubber vent window gaskets can now be installed. I had two pairs, picked the nicest ones and cleaned them thoroughly with hot soap water, an old toothbrush to get into all the grooves and then sprayed them liberally with Vinylex Rubber cleaner. They looked as good as new when I was finished and were soft and easy to work with.
I had mentioned earlier that I had some issues with my chrome pieces after replating.
The lower channel that the vent frame sits in needed some TLC. The lower pivot, that goes through the bottom of the vent frame had chrome removed and was thinner than it should be. In the first photo you can see an original one and the one I got back from the plater. Not to worry as we used a piece of brass wrapped around the pivot to ensure it was nice and snug yet still rotates. To set the glass in the lower channel I once again used the glass setting tape.
Now it's time to put the door glass and the vent frame together as one unit, preparing for installation. We're almost ready to install them into the door but we were cutting it close on time and it wasn't something we wanted to try and rush through. As is the case with removing them from the door, they will be installed all as one piece.
It's good if you have someone to help you with this as it can get kinda tricky. Lay the vent frame down and carefully slide the door glass into place. You may recall I had mentioned that I had sanded the galvanized frame, when you do this, make sure you sand the track that the door glass and it's plastic window guides slide into as it will make it much easier on you. Be gentle when sliding this glass into place and do not force it as you will ruin the plastic strips along the front edge of the glass.
Find a safe spot to stash it until you are ready to install it into the door.
As always, many thanks to the folks here as well as to Bill from the 1970 Charger Registry and Sandy from Moparts for pointing me in the right direction.
Hope all this helps.
as always, great stuff shakey, and just when i needed it most you help me out with some awesome pictures and very thorough directions. thanks a bunch. you've done almost as much for my restoration as i have and you haven't even seen my car. i owe you one. :cheers:
Quote from: rare69 on January 29, 2008, 03:18:59 AM
as always, great stuff shakey, and just when i needed it most you help me out with some awesome pictures and very thorough directions. thanks a bunch. you've done almost as much for my restoration as i have and you haven't even seen my car. i owe you one. :cheers:
Oh I don't know - I'd say we're even as if it weren't for you, I'd still be looking for the shifter bushings. Thanks again for sending those to me and not asking for anything in return. If you have questions, let me know if I can help. I'd never consider myself an expert on restorations as this is my first but I'd be glad to share my experiences.
As far as installing the door glass assemblies, I see that Bill has posted a helpful "how to" with a lot of great pointers. Although my glass is ready to go in, I have yet to do it.
Here is a link to his thread on how to install the door glasses:
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,39415.0.html
Now that the shifter is fresh in my mind I realize that I never got around to posting any details on that. Pretty straightforward, take everything apart, clean and paint where neccessary and order new items where needed. I got all new bushings to keep it from being sloppy and I also ordered a new chrome shifter and woodgrain knob from P & G Classics.
doing some nice work there as always Shakey ..... :2thumbs: love the pictures , better than the FSM :yesnod: :popcrn: ...........
Quote from: tan top on January 29, 2008, 09:10:52 AM
doing some nice work there as always Shakey ..... :2thumbs: love the pictures , better than the FSM :yesnod: :popcrn: ...........
:iagree: Mike should put out his own "factory" service manual in color WITH PICTURES! Only thing is you will have to change the colors to reflect a white top with red paint and a black and white interior. :nana:
Real nice work Shakey!!!! Coming along real nice!!!! :2thumbs:
Well thanks again fellas - nic to know my efforts are appreciated.
I'll add more once I get back to see the car in the coming weeks. :cheers:
Hey Shakey..... WOW!!!! :drool5: :drool5: :drool5: :2thumbs:
TERRIFIC thread & pictures! It all looked so.... familiar... :coolgleamA:
Really some great info there. Really great to see you making some progress, keep it coming!
Bill
Quote from: bill440rt on February 05, 2008, 10:38:13 PM
Hey Shakey..... WOW!!!! :drool5: :drool5: :drool5: :2thumbs:
TERRIFIC thread & pictures! It all looked so.... familiar... :coolgleamA:
Really some great info there. Really great to see you making some progress, keep it coming!
Bill
Thanks Bill :wave:
I'll keep adding contributions to this site as long as you do as well! :2thumbs:
I enjoy reading your "how to's" also. :yesnod:
Looks niece Shakey. And many thanks on the info, it helps alot.
But I have a question for you concerning the pressing of the posts.
(http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=28517.0;id=63707;image)
Since you thougt it over quite well i'd better ask you.... When you woun't have had a press (like me) what would you have come up with then? I don't think hammering them is an option?
I take it you are going to install door glass and vent assembly as one unit into door ?
Larry
Quote from: six-tee-nine on February 14, 2008, 02:40:55 PM
Looks niece Shakey. And many thanks on the info, it helps alot.
But I have a question for you concerning the pressing of the posts.
Since you thougt it over quite well i'd better ask you.... When you woun't have had a press (like me) what would you have come up with then? I don't think hammering them is an option?
I realize how forunate I am to have access to all of these tools. The option, should you not have a press like that laying around, would be to take an old chisel and round the end down so it's not so sharp. You then can peen the post down, gently but firmly using the rounded blunt chisel to force the post over the frame.
I learned a lot from TX9 over at the 1970 Charger Registry. He did a "How To" on the vent window frame which I used as a guide. You can see what he taught me here:
http://1970chargerregistry.com/70messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=1551
You can also look for tips in Bill's "How To" here:
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,38431.0/all.html
Shakey - can you talk to me about your speaker install? Did you get those pre-made, or did you make them yourself? Tips? Did you use the stock bracket? I need to do this myself. Thanks!
Quote from: Corellian Corvette on May 06, 2008, 02:05:24 AM
Shakey - can you talk to me about your speaker install? Did you get those pre-made, or did you make them yourself? Tips? Did you use the stock bracket? I need to do this myself. Thanks!
I ordered the dual 4x10 speaker from Greg at S/M Electro-Tech in MN. http://www.turnswitch.com/
I had them rebuild/restore my AM thumbwheel radio and convert it to AM/FM as well as add a port to plug in my mp3 player. The reason I went with the dual speaker was that the radio will now have four channels and if I had a single speaker up front I'd have to ad some sort of adapter to let the radio know there were only three channels. I think the speaker was less than $100.00 USD - well worth it in my eyes.
To install the speaker, it simply bolts into place of the original
without using the original bracket.
;)
Thanks Shakey!! Ordered the speaker today. I'm still debating a rebuild on my radio vs. just hacking a repro bezel and putting a newer stereo in...
Once again you come through with great intel for the rest of us mere mortals. You are my hero. :icon_smile_big: And your sig. other is too. That kind of work takes time!
Is the bracket they (speakers) are assembled in the one who comes from the dealer? Thinking to run the same setup. Do anyone know if the speakers they use, is hard to find, thinking of the size, especially the deep?
Quote from: HeavyFuel on May 21, 2008, 04:11:37 PM
Once again you come through with great intel for the rest of us mere mortals. You are my hero. :icon_smile_big: And your sig. other is too. That kind of work takes time!
Thanks and yes, my Wife is wonderful to me. :2thumbs:
Quote from: Jesco on May 22, 2008, 10:47:21 AM
Is the bracket they (speakers) are assembled in the one who comes from the dealer? Thinking to run the same setup. Do anyone know if the speakers they use, is hard to find, thinking of the size, especially the deep?
The bracket came from Turnswitch, who provided the speakers. The factory bracket is not used.
For, $80.00 - just buy it from them and save yourself the hassle of finding the speakers and making a metal bracket. Details are in this thread.
I have emailed Greg about ordering these speakers (with bracket). I just have a thought... Your car has no A/C, my 69 has. Do you guys think there will be any diffrent to mount it in a A/C car? Vacuum hoses and things...
Turnswitch only have experience of mount them in non a/c cars...
I have a 1968 and mine did not have the anti rattle piece or the plastic piece in the rear window channel. Are these improvements for the 1969 model year or are mine just missing? I don't think the anti rattle was on the 68 as the mounting location for the spring was not on mine either. Any help would be appreciated.
Just re-visited this thread....
Sorry I have no answers for the last two posts.
:bump: :wave:
I have a 68 with AC and I can confirm the speaker fits fine. Also, my 68 did not have the anti-rattle.
Quote from: Corellian Corvette on December 13, 2008, 01:11:42 PM
I have a 68 with AC and I can confirm the speaker fits fine. Also, my 68 did not have the anti-rattle.
:iagree: ditto on the 68 with ac and the new speaker, no problems!
Sorry for bring back an old topic but I just wanted to say thank you for posting all this. I'm putting my windows back together today and this is a tremendous help. :cheers:
Quote from: Finn on July 31, 2009, 04:14:58 PM
Sorry for bring back an old topic but I just wanted to say thank you for posting all this. I'm putting my windows back together today and this is a tremendous help. :cheers:
:iagree: Also some members has the skill of explaning what they are doing. :2thumbs:
Per
Mike, your mailbox is full. :'(
Per
Finn & Per - glad I was able to help you and some others.
Sorry for the delay in the project but lots of other projects on at home (swing set, play structure, concrete patio, wooden sun deck - :eek2: )
I'll go through some of the messages in my In-Box and make some space.
I just wanted to say what an awsome thread this is!! I plan to use this when I restore my own interior!! :2thumbs:
Quote from: Shakey on July 25, 2007, 09:50:16 AM
When I reinstalled them I used a clear rubber hose around the linkages to keep the rattling to a minimum. I used a lubricant inside the hoses to ensure they do not bind up. I cleaned all of the linkage clips with the wire wheel. I had my door handles re-chromed and they turned out very nice.
Hi there Shakey, just going through your threads as I am getting tips for my own resto, excellent work. I'm also in Ontario and was wondering if you had your handles re-chromed by a Canadian outfit or did you send them to the US? Thanks Alan.
Quote from: CDN72SE on January 19, 2010, 01:42:24 PM
Quote from: Shakey on July 25, 2007, 09:50:16 AM
When I reinstalled them I used a clear rubber hose around the linkages to keep the rattling to a minimum. I used a lubricant inside the hoses to ensure they do not bind up. I cleaned all of the linkage clips with the wire wheel. I had my door handles re-chromed and they turned out very nice.
Hi there Shakey, just going through your threads as I am getting tips for my own resto, excellent work. I'm also in Ontario and was wondering if you had your handles re-chromed by a Canadian outfit or did you send them to the US? Thanks Alan.
Geez - sorry for the late reply Alan. I haven't been on much and I just saw this thread referenced in another and thought I'd click on it to get reacquainted with my old car that I never get to work on.
To answer your question, I had the chrome done in Cambridge, ON - Cambridge Custom Chrome is the name - I think.
Thanks Mike, I appreciate you taking the time to reply. I am familiar with them, previously I had a gentleman in the Mississauga/Toronto area do some chrome work for me with excellent results but he's no longer around.
Once again, excellent work. :2thumbs:
Yes, I also put my dash in completely assembled. I could not even imagine trying to bolting the dash pad on while the dash fame was installed. It was already a pain in the butt while out of the car
I bring back this post, but tanks Shakey.
You don't realize how much you helped me !
Actually Shakey hasn't been on here in a couple of years, any of you Toronto area guys know how he has been?
Quote from: Ghoste on August 11, 2014, 09:26:33 AM
Actually Shakey hasn't been on here in a couple of years, any of you Toronto area guys know how he has been?
There seems to be a "where is Shakey" thread every once in a while.
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,99764.0.html#lastPost (http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,99764.0.html#lastPost)
The same with SFRT. I hope you guys are OK.......prolly just caught up in the tangle of life. :shruggy:
I'm sure its all good.
I check threads and posts on here daily sometimes.....then life gets busy and I disappear for a month or 2 at a time. Things can make you put your hobbies aside for a little while.
But I always eventually come back!! :icon_smile_big:
Overdue for an update... :rotz:
Got the rear seat recovered! :yesnod:
:2thumbs: :coolgleamA:
He's back1 :2thumbs: :cheers: Looking good!
Nice. How you been?
Wow Shakey I thought you gave up on us. Nice to have you back and the seats are looking fine.
Nice ! :2thumbs:
:wave:
Nice to be back fellas! :cheers:
Pardon my long absence but really had no updates to offer until recently.
Thinks are moving along as the interior is almost finished.
I know we all enjoy photos so here are a few more for you. :yesnod:
Hope everyone's projects are also moving forward.
All the best!
Have you put the carpet on the console sides yet?? Does it just glue in place with the top sides lined up with the trim holes??
I assume the sides just sorta hang down??
Which manufacturer's seat covers and foams did you use?
Quote from: redmist on September 16, 2014, 10:16:52 PM
Have you put the carpet on the console sides yet?? Does it just glue in place with the top sides lined up with the trim holes??
I assume the sides just sorta hang down??
Well, got it on the passenger side but I am missing the LT side SS trim for the console (have to find one of those) so I'll take care of that later.
As far as the install - correct & correct!
Quote from: krigel on September 16, 2014, 10:19:40 PM
Which manufacturer's seat covers and foams did you use?
Legendary & Legendary
amazing Shakey looks good