More. I had forgotten the trunk had come off of a green parts car until I saw it stripped; it's been Plum Crazy for almost 20 years. Soon, it'll be Ivory Tri-Coat Pearl.
:popcrn: :popcrn: :popcrn:
Frame repair
I've got a new home for it in work. I wanted to build a bigger one, but zoning got in the way. This is the biggest detached garage I'm allowed.
And another
:coolgleamA: looking good :yesnod: :popcrn:
Are you painting it in the garage? Don't remember seeing to many old Mopars in Pearl white. LEON.
I'm not painting it. A local collision shop maintains a separate restoration facility. They're tackling the prep and painting.
Looks like it's coming along just fine. Always like seeing these progress pics.
I had added an Electric-Life power window kit, but the wires kept binding in the door jambs. So, I've put in door jamb contacts. It's nice to now get it painted which should eliminate the hacked-in aspect of cutting in those jamb switch holes.
nice.
luke
I can't wait to see it in the sun to see the pearl pop.
Looking good! Now the fun part of reassembly.
:2thumbs: looks good ! :2thumbs: :yesnod: :coolgleamA:
Awesome!
Another
I like it too. What's the plan?
:popcrn:
:cheers:
Looks good. Congrats :2thumbs: LEON.
The plan, such as it is, is to get it from the paint shop back to the hot rod shop and get the reassembly underway. The engine's been cleaned up and painted and I have all new rubber parts waiting their turn to go back on it.
where did you get your new rubbers?
I bought everything Dixie Restoration Parts had to fit my car a few years ago at Carlisle and have pieced together the rest from various sources including Detroit Muscle Technologies.
Finally getting close.
Beautiful! :2thumbs:
Nice. :cheers:
Still running down little (and a few big) things that went missing over the months it was blown apart. At this point, I've pretty much exhausted my in-house supply of spares and have fortunately found everything through the online vendors, the for sale section here, and ebay.
After about 2 years, I finally have a windshield back in it. This is the AMD piece.
:coolgleamA: :2thumbs:
Good to have it home. Still a bit of troubleshooting to do, but it's nice to have it back in my own garage.
AMD sells windshields ? Don't places like safelight carry these ? :shruggy:
Probably, but I was overseas at the time ordering off the internet and having them shipped to my friend's shop. Picking up an AMD piece was easiest for me at that time.
Great looking car! Can I ask you your wheel and tire sizes? Getting ready to put some on my 71 and I want to make sure they won't rub. Yours looks like the right setup. Thanks!
Rears are 15x8 with 275/60 and fronts are 15x7 with 255/60. I forget the offsets. I think it was about 4 in the back and 3 3/4 in the front, but can't say for sure.
:2thumbs: Thanks!
Finally got the Classic Auto Air system charged yesterday. With Carlisle this coming weekend, I didn't want to put it off any longer in case there was going to be troubleshooting involved. There was one refrigerant line connection that had been left loose. After tightening that, the system easily held 30in of vacuum and I was very pleasantly surprised when the compressor kicked on and cool air started coming out of the vents. I do have cool air coming out of the defrost vents when set to A/C. I'm not sure if it's worth the bother of troubleshooting that.
Deciding to switch to the Firecore RTR distributor after the body and paint work was done left me with some extra holes in the firewall.
I got my upper door panels back from Legendary and installed. It was nice to switch out the somewhat ratty green ones I had in there as placeholders.
Wow this all turned out really nice! Getting the A/C working again in my car was one of the best repairs. So nice to have ice cold air on the hot days. :2thumbs:
I've had the car for 30 years. Although it's an original A/C car, until this week, I've never had working A/C.
Terry. Sorry to hear about that. Did they try any additional wet sanding and buffing? Or were the problems worse than that?
More wet sanding and buffing would likely fix a couple of the runs, but the uneven pearl on the major color and the blotchy metallic on the stripe are just half-assed and unfixable except through a repaint. I was just going to eat it and live with it but my wife convinced me that if I was that unhappy with it, I should just get it redone.
Out of curiosity where in Maryland do you live?
BTW: I would keep it white, there are so few white cars around, it just makes the car stand out in a crowd.
I'm just outside Frederick. I thought white would help make it pop, but it actually seems to make it blend into the background at car shows.
Unfortunately you are right about white cars at car shows. When I first got my 68 Charger on the road four years ago I went to several car shows with a friend who had a immaculate white 68 Charger. Looked straight out of the showroom. He never got a trophy. I won several which really irritated him since mine is a resto mod.
In the end, who cares about a worthless trophy. Be happy and enjoy your car, for tomorrow you and this car will gone forever.
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In the end, who cares about a worthless trophy. Be happy and enjoy your car, for tomorrow you and this car will gone forever.
That's true. I actually intend to give all the ones I have collected over the years to the Boy Scouts. My friend Jim was a trophy whore so I always got a good laugh when he would complain the voting was rigged.
In the end, I'm just very unhappy with the quality of the paint work I received. Especially after they billed me significantly more than the estimate. I want another color change to try and forget as best I can how badly I was screwed. At a local show, I saw a '59 Chevy convertible with gorgeous paint. I estimated he had to have at least $50k in paint work. He told me it was $18k, so I got the painter's card. I've since seen a few other cars this guy's painted and they're all that good. Plus, he said I can come to his shop and help out to cut down on billable labor hours. He didn't give me an estimate in dollars, he just told me it would cost me between 200 and 300 hours. So, the more disassembly I do, the less I pay him to do. At this point, it's a matter of waiting for him to have space to take the car in and settling on a new color.
Paint and body work cost Big Bucks these days. Hell, a 1k car can cost you 12K and yet people just don't get it.
The bodyshop guy that did my 72 Charger was a professional drunk, so you can imagine how that one turned out. The guy that painted my 71 did an awesome job. That car is now in Ohio and the owner said he's always getting asked who painted the car. On my 71 I did the same thing you are doing to save a ton of money. Over the years I have got more and more into doing my own work to the point where I do all the bodywork including the paint.
Picking a color for the 68 and wheel selection was the two toughest decisions to make.
Right now, I'm waiting for this blast of arctic temperatures to pass. Too cold to be out in that unheated garage. At this point, probably all that's remaining that I'll do will be pulling the front valance and bumper/grills, the antenna, and weatherstripping. I'm debating with myself as to whether or not to buy a new forward light harness. Mine's in pretty good shape but with everything else I'm going to be putting into this car (again), I'm thinking I might as well replace that and possibly the engine harness too.
I replaced all the harnesses except the dash harness in my 68 and all of them in my current moneypit. I waited for Y.O. to have a 30% off sale with free shipping. The nice thing about the Y.O. harnesses is that they are an exact duplicate of the factory harness.
Last time I ordered a harness from Year One, it was backordered for so long, the car was done and back on the road for months before it finally arrived. I'd probably just go straight to Evans.
M&H make all mopar harnesses, you can go on there website to search and then order from year one. There tech support is great.
Good luck!
I got a 30% off coupon code in the mail today. I'll probably go ahead and order a forward lamp harness and an engine harness.
Really, what's the code ?? :cheers:
Save 30%* until midnight Monday
Use Code: NY18
Dang, I hate it when there is only a small window for these codes. :brickwall:
I saw a code for "up to 35% off" at Classic Industries. So, I put the harnesses I needed in my carts at both Year One and Classic Industries. YO was over $100 cheaper as they were a straight 30% off. The discount that was applied to my Classic Industries cart worked out to 5.9%. So, I have new harnesses on order from Year One. I was going to get a new package tray. With the discount, it was about $21. However, it added $18 to the shipping. I can make my own if I decide I really need one.
Today, I took advantage of the warmer weather finally moving in and got back out in the garage. I pulled and disassembled the front valance.
where did you get the chin spoiler?
It's a fiberglass repro I've had for over 20 years. I probably bought it from Year One, but am not certain anymore.
Looks sharp, love that year
Does look good. :yesnod:
Quote from: 71charger_fan on January 11, 2018, 12:27:55 PM
It's a fiberglass repro I've had for over 20 years. I probably bought it from Year One, but am not certain anymore.
I bought a pair of spoilers for my 71 last year.... Ordered them thru YearOne. They arrived in boxes from 'Dales Cuda Shop' :Twocents:
Have you decided on a color yet? I thought the white/black combo looked clean & sharp but I understand wanting to get the bad taste out.
What was the original factory color?
Still not settled on a color. My paint guy tells me he has just what I'm looking for after telling him of some of the other purples I like. He sells auto paint for a living, so I'm anxious to see what he's thinking.
I removed the door and trunk weather stripping and have about run out of things I can strip off before it goes to the shop.
The stainless at the bottom of the windshield was deeply scratched. I sanded it with 400, 600, 800, 1000, 1200, 1600, then polished it with a rag and Flitz. I only went to 1600 as I didn't have anything finer on hand. It'll be mostly hidden at the back of hood, so 1600 will be good enough and it looks lots better than it did.
Temperatures have dropped again, cooling my interest in being out in the garage, but I did pull the front bumper.
Sweet, wish that is all I have to do to get mine painted.
Good job and good luck, can't wait to see what color you go with.
I too can't wait to see what color I go with. I really want to get a look at a 2015 Lincoln MKC in Tahitian Pearl. I periodically check cars.com, but the closest one to me I've found for sale was 75 miles away. I spoke with the local Lincoln dealer and they not only never sold one, they said they hadn't even heard of the color. I was hoping if one had been sold locally, they could put me in touch with the owner.
dealers usually have a color chart, it is not exact as it is on paper and your painting metal, but should be pretty close.
Nice shade of purple if you go with it.
I've found that you have to see the color in person. I saw a Nissan color that looked great online on their configurator; they were putting on Jukes and Maximas. After searching inventories, I found one vehicle painted in that color at the Nissan dealer in Hagerstown. I drove up there, found the car, and, although it looked like a beautiful purple online, it looked brown in person.
I think I've stripped it as far as I'm going to.
I went ahead and pulled the carpets as I've found they hold unbelievable amounts of body shop dust. I did find the reason my shifter indicator light hasn't worked.
Well, crap. My painter flaked on me. After stringing me along all fall and winter, he passed me off to a shop in Chambersburg, PA. Seems like a top-notch shop, but it's almost an hour away. So, I headed over to a local body shop that's worked on the Charger before and has done some work on my '55 Plymouth. They're going to paint it, but they're not sure exactly when they can start. So, looks like a large part of the 2018 season is lost to an unreliable painter who continued to make assurances right up to the point he abandoned the job. Since he gets most of his work by word of mouth, this can't be good for him in the long run as I'm surely going to tell anyone who will listen about how this went down. The part that really pisses me off is that he had me strip it to get a head start. I'm not putting it back together until it's painted.
OH man that SUCKS!!!!
What a bunch of $h!T, WHY did he flake?
If he got sick, or family issues I can understand, but to back out just because, that is not cool!!!
And AFTER you stripped it down, and strung you along, yeah your right this can not be good for his word of mouth bizz!!
I have had SO MANY people flake on me like that, I KNOW EXCATLY where you are coming from, I feel your pain!!!
If I hadn't stripped it down, I would just use it as is for another season and get it painted next winter. He has a shop at his house and he had another shop in another town. The deal was that he would paint it at his home shop over the winter and I could come and put in sweat equity to hold down the bill. For whatever real reason(s), he lost his other shop. However, he didn't lose his other shop until he should have been done with my car. I'm just at the point where I don't believe anything he tells me, so I have no plans to interact with him again. By Christmas, i was getting a bad feeling about the whole thing and wanted to switch up and take it to the shop where it's going to wind up. However, I kept being told you just have to be patient with this guy and it'll be worth it. BS. I think he knew months ago he wouldn't get to my car. Why he waited so long to admit it, I don't know. He even stopped by the house a week and a half ago to check out the car to make sure we were on the same page as to what was going to happen to it. Fortunately, he doesn't have any of my money.
Sorry about your luck. On my last car, I had to go to a 2nd, and then a 3rd paint shop to get it done right. :RantExplode:
THAT SUCKS, but your right at least he doesn't have your money!!
My father and I had a 66 Charger, we paid the body guy a good down payment to do our car(only needed a lower 1/4 patch and a full paint job)
anyway long story short, I had to STEAL MY CAR from his yard!!!!
Yep, a screw driver and a jumper wire, and I busted my car out of body shop jail, and drove it to my grand parents house.
The State troopers called me to file chargers on the guy, and told me I was very lucky, I took my car back when i did, because a lot of cars that were there left that next morning, and DO NOT EXSIST any more!!!!!
Why are so many good body guys so "hard to work with"?
I've finally found a shop with which I feel comfortable entrusting the Charger. I'm throwing the job to Doug Carbaugh's Auto Restoration near Waynesboro, PA. The downside is the Charger is about 7th in the shop's queue, so, at this point, I don't know when it'll actually go in. It was much harder than I imagined it would be to find a shop to do this type of work. Every shop around here only seems to want to do insurance work.
Bummer you gotta get it repainted. Tri stage paints like Pearl & Candy (real candy, not these new candy's) can be much more difficult to spray then 2 stage base clear or single stage with no clear. Takes experience. maybe your past painter did not have a lot of experiance painting tri stages? Plus they are always more expensive. I'd advise anybody to avoid these types of paints. LEON.
Making the tour of other shops and talking to other body shop operators and painters, I've been told that the shop that applied the tri-coat had severe personnel turnover issues and that they sometimes had top-notch painters, but they rarely stayed for long. Obviously, they didn't have an A-team painter when mine went through the booth.
Quote from: 71charger_fan on January 28, 2019, 08:53:56 AM
Making the tour of other shops and talking to other body shop operators and painters, I've been told that the shop that applied the tri-coat had severe personnel turnover issues and that they sometimes had top-notch painters, but they rarely stayed for long. Obviously, they didn't have an A-team painter when mine went through the booth.
I've worked in many body shops like that. Not uncommon unfortunately. LEON.
So, I may still be a couple of months from getting the Charger into the shop. So, I decided to rip into the dash and figure out what was going on with my A/C-heater vacuum system. When I did finally get in there and trace things out using the FSM, I found the shop that I'd paid to work on the car had made a mess of it. Dodge made it modular and pretty much idiot proof. No need to remove individual vacuum lines. Alas, nothing is idiot proof. There should have been one hose pulling engine vacuum. They had hooked two lines to engine vacuum and left two vacuum ports open to the atmosphere. Explains why it never seemed to idle correctly after I got it back. Luckily, I had a complete heater-A/C box assembly from a parts car with its vacuum harness intact to use as a guide since there were two hoses marked with white stripes and two with red stripes.
VERY Nice 3rd Gen. Love it. :cheers: Unless your going to use the factory exhaust tips, I would have opted for the straight rear valance without exhaust cut outs. :Twocents:
The box in the trunk holds a pair of Pypes repro tips.
I finished removing the headliner, scraped the residue of the original insulation from the inside of the roof, and test fitted my new LED dome lamp.
How do the cat whiskers attach?
The cat whiskers screw to the sail panels. I had to drill three holes in each new panel. I just did a go/no go with the drill bits on the existing holes. Not even sure what size I landed on. I lined the cat whisker up for a best fit on the new sail panel and drilled through the holes already in the cat whisker.
Now I need to use this mess to make a pattern. This was up behind the sail panels between the insulation and the roof. I'm thinking of using Coroplast for the new ones. Either that or I'll coat cardboard with POR-15.
Looking good. :drool5:
I put a thin layer of closed cell foam on the back of the pieces I made and did a trial fit. Since the plastic is corrugated, it didn't quite want to conform to the curves as the cardboard had. So, I put a few self tapping screws in to force it where I wanted it.
Today, I finished cutting and finishing the passenger side piece.
Today I worked on getting the woodgrain decal off of the console top. It's a lot harder than I expected.
Heat gun may of helped and also speed it up plus less glue to contend with :icon_smile_big:
My only Black Friday purchase.
:2thumbs: :popcrn:
What size engine does it have?
.030 over '77 400
Yesterday, my wife followed me when I finally drove it to the shop for work to begin on the color change back to purple. Nice to finally have it out of the garage for a while so I can get some work done on the '55 wagon.
Did they give you a time frame of when it will be done?
No time frame as yet. I'll talk to him after the New Year and give him time to go over the car and inventory the parts packed inside. Then I'll talk to him about how long he expects it to take. I still need to choose a stripe color.
Just as they were about to start on it, they had to shut down due to COVID-19. They're back to work and have finally started tearing into it.
https://www.facebook.com/699745276876002/photos/pcb.1450553901795132/1450553771795145/?type=3&theater
I put a Detroit Muscle Technologies carbon fiber overlay on the console top.
Front fenders are stripped. Rest of the body will probably start getting stripped after Labor Day.
Was there something wrong with the Body Work, I just thought the Pearl White paint was mottled & streaked :scratchchin: :shruggy: LEON.
The body work was good, paint work was bad. But, there was the factory paint, a repaint in the factory color, a plum crazy repaint, and the ivory tri-coat repaint on there. He convinced me it was best to remove all those layers and know for sure what's under the new paint. Especially since the body shop that did two of those paint jobs no longer exists, so I had no way to know what brand of paint was under there.
OK, I didn't know it had so many layers of paint. Guess I just assumed it was stripped to bare metal before Painted Pearl While. Considering all the layers probably best to Strip all that off. Good Luck. LEON.
Ouchhhhhh, Yeah, That is some ugly terrible hack work, Earl Scheib Special. But after working in many different Body Shops & Resto shops past 35+ years I see this type of work done by others all the time. My last Resto Shop I worked at The Boss insisted I do that type of work & boss got pissed if I tried to do a better job. This place was so bad I couldn't take it anymore & had to quite. Unfortunately lots of places like that out there. I know from Experience. LEON.
Engine's finally out and the stripping of the body about to start.
The car's apart for paint. There will never be a better time to just rewire the entire thing.
Quote from: 71charger_fan on September 15, 2020, 02:34:24 PM
I paid the last body shop to cut out all the rust and weld in new metal. After agreeing with the current shop to that it should be stripped, this is what they found on the front fenders. I fear what may turn up on the rest of the car. Why fix it? The customer is overseas and won't know the difference, just putty over it.
Unfortunately, rust will win with old cars. Just like cancer in humans.
The American Autowire kit didn't come with any provision for the concealed headlamp door wiring. So, I took a wire out of the dimmer switch plug, cut off the crimped terminal, doubled up the wire with a signal wire for the door relay and crimped on a new double terminal. I did finish the crimp after I took the photo.
Shell is pretty well stripped but remains a roller. Hood is being blocked.
After seeing the driver door I knew that stripping it was the right decision.
Counting the rings I'm counting 11 layers. What was the original Color? T6? T7? or T8? LEON.
It was originally GY9 Dark Gold Metallic although it looked brown to me. After an accident in the '80s it was repainted in the factory color.
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After seeing this, I told him to just go ahead and order a quarter panel.
Is that blasting sand or body filler on the floor. If it's filler holy crap :shruggy:
Filler
Subscribing to this since I'll be tackling a 71 soon too :popcrn:
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,138778.msg1719591.html#msg1719591
Call your car snow ball
Where do you stop looking once you are this far ??
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Dude, you post in riddles, what are you trying to say? You trying to tell him not to bother with a shop?
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Dude, you post in riddles, what are you trying to say? You trying to tell him not to bother with a shop?
I was wondering the same thing :shruggy: :slap:
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Dude, you post in riddles, what are you trying to say? You trying to tell him not to bother with a shop?
I was wondering the same thing :shruggy: :slap:
NOT AT ALL
. I am all in... It's just that some members here think otherwise.
I knew there had been rust in the corners. I did not know there was some toward the middle.
It's amazing how much damage a vinyl top can inflict.
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Dude, you post in riddles, what are you trying to say? You trying to tell him not to bother with a shop?
How do I post in riddles CLOWN. ?
I opted to shave the drip rails.
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Dude, you post in riddles, what are you trying to say? You trying to tell him not to bother with a shop?
How do I post in riddles CLOWN. ?
Well, if I had to guess, probably when you are hitting the bottle? Anyway.. back to topic.
looking great! :cheers:
I'm very happy with the windshield opening repairs. Finalizing the drip rail shaving is on hold pending arrival of new quarters and the decision as to how much of them to use.
Thats incredible that you had it painted and they didnt catch any of that windshield stuff and other spots. Looks like you have pretty much the same repairs my car had. Its a 71 and Vinyl half top.
While disappointing, it wasn't surprising to find they had painted over rust on the driver's side hinge pillar.
I've seen lots of body shops paint over rust, most of the times it's because Customer is not willing to pay alot, But sometimes they do pay alot & they still paint over Rust or Earl Scheib do low budget work on the car.. Take a air gun ( i prefer a male & female end fitting screwed together) to inner wheel well & see how much Paint you can get to blow off that way. LEON.
Painted over rust removed, the area epoxy primed, and behind and the back sides of the hinges hit with base coat.
Did you sandblast the rust to remove it? LEON.
Not sure exactly what he did to that particular rust, but he's been mechanically removing it and acid treating it before epoxy priming. I can't even hazard a guess as to how much putty he's removed.
I had one so bad that after sand blasting was swiss cheese. then cut out all the rust & replaced. LEON.
Quarters, outer wheelhouses, and trunk drops arrived today. The trunk drops arrived damaged, so we wait for AMD to send out new ones.
Quote from: hemi-hampton on November 15, 2020, 11:53:15 AM
I had one so bad that after sand blasting was swiss cheese. then cut out all the rust & replaced. LEON.
OMG
Now I realize that the tires have almost no miles on them but are over 12 years old. So, I'll have to add a new set of tires to the project.
The rear most inner part of the quarter was rippled from a rear end collision back in '89. Fortunately, I had bought the pieces from AMD a while ago just in case I ever needed them. I needed them.
Only needed part of the AMD outer wheel house.
First fitting of AMD quarter skin going well.
What? Reproduction quarters don't fit perfectly on the first try? Say it ain't so!
I collected the seat belts and gave them a thorough scrubbing.
Work is coming along nicely. :cheers:
Final fitting and welding finishing up on driver side.
He found more rust in the trunk gutter that the previous shop had hidden using seam sealer and painting over it.
Trunk gutter rust fixed.
I had contacts in the door jamb for power windows. A previous shop left me with several dead shorts and I got disgusted with it and pulled the power windows and reinstalled the manual. So, I had him weld up the holes in the jambs.
Previous body shop REALLY loved filler.
:popcrn: The progress is great. At least this shop knows what they're doing.
I was wondering if you considered doing paint removal yourself to save some money?
I noticed the Maryland tag. Whereabouts in MD?
Just outside the western city limit of Frederick on the north side of US 40.
Quote from: CFMopar on December 21, 2020, 08:02:30 PM
:popcrn: The progress is great. At least this shop knows what they're doing.
I was wondering if you considered doing paint removal yourself to save some money?
I didn't know it was going to require stripping until it was already at his shop. Otherwise, I probably would have done a lot of the paint removal myself. Would have saved a lot of money though.
Sounds like you found a great shop. !!
Under the quarter, the rocker was pretty rusty. He found that another shop had just welded a plate over the rust. This is passenger side, just ahead of the wheel opening.
The bottom of the trunk drop was very rusty and has been rebuilt.
A cut off piece of the outer wheelhouse as a cutting guide to make a patch. Another piece I have already paid to have fixed that was just hidden under filler, seam sealer, and undercoating.
Passenger quarter on. The panel was poorly made at the top of the leading edge and needed some body work.
In the past those 1/4's leading edge I've found to be way to round with no point to them. And they actually bulge out some at the bend/curved edge to make it a high spot all along edge. LEON.
Quote from: hemi-hampton on January 06, 2021, 10:58:45 PM
In the past those 1/4's leading edge I've found to be way to round with no point to them. And they actually bulge out some at the bend/curved edge to make it a high spot all along edge. LEON.
It had that going on but is also seemed to have a double stamping with two edges. Not bad enough to send it back, but cost me an extra hour or two in labor to straighten out.
The rear of the unibody should soon be in epoxy primer.
Hey if you don't mind asking your shop next time you're there.
Do they know of a source for Cowels and front frame rails for 71?
Quote from: 71charger_fan on January 08, 2021, 09:08:01 PM
The rear of the unibody should soon be in epoxy primer.
Looking Great !!
Quote from: CFMopar on January 11, 2021, 03:08:17 PM
Hey if you don't mind asking your shop next time you're there.
Do they know of a source for Cowels and front frame rails for 71?
I got my frame rail from auto rust technicians. Now, their website refers you to Classic Industries. I couldn't find their products on Classic Industries' website.
You may be able to use a Challenger/Cuda cowl. They look pretty much the same. If nothing else, you might be able to use one for patches for yours.
Two coats of epoxy went on yesterday.
Still a long way to go.
Wow, nice. Glad you finally found a reputable shop.
you need to hustle if you plan on making Carlisle this year.
Are you planning on going?
I've pre-registered. I hope to bring the Charger. If it's not ready, I might just switch the registration to the '55 Plymouth (again) or to my '15 Scat Pack and ride up there in air conditioning. The front fenders need a few patches, then it's into body work then paint. I'll do the interior at the house myself.
It's a sad commentary on body shops that it's so hard to find someone who cares about the product he puts out.
Quote from: 71charger_fan on January 17, 2021, 12:36:41 PM
It's a sad commentary on body shops that it's so hard to find someone who cares about the product he puts out.
Yup. That's why I ended up doing everything myself. The guy that did my 71 Charger did do a good job but he was rather quirky and difficult to deal with at times.
Probably 20+ years of paint fumes has done a number on him. ;)
I'm going to register for Carlisle this week.
Quote from: NHCharger on January 17, 2021, 03:32:54 PM
Quote from: 71charger_fan on January 17, 2021, 12:36:41 PM
It's a sad commentary on body shops that it's so hard to find someone who cares about the product he puts out.
Yup. That's why I ended up doing everything myself. The guy that did my 71 Charger did do a good job but he was rather quirky and difficult to deal with at times.
Probably 20+ years of paint fumes has done a number on him. ;)
I'm going to register for Carlisle this week.
So, that's what's wrong with me :scratchchin:
Quote from: hemi-hampton on January 17, 2021, 05:12:49 PM
Quote from: NHCharger on January 17, 2021, 03:32:54 PM
Quote from: 71charger_fan on January 17, 2021, 12:36:41 PM
It's a sad commentary on body shops that it's so hard to find someone who cares about the product he puts out.
Yup. That's why I ended up doing everything myself. The guy that did my 71 Charger did do a good job but he was rather quirky and difficult to deal with at times.
Probably 20+ years of paint fumes has done a number on him. ;)
I'm going to register for Carlisle this week.
So, that's what's wrong with me :scratchchin:
That's ok, we still luv ya.
All kidding aside, I know two local bodyshop guys that spent the majority of their lives in the trade. One NEVER wore a mask except for final paint, the other would actually smoke a cigarette while sanding and priming. Both are now suffering a slow miserable death. I'll wear a full respirator even when I'm just sanding filler.
Now the epoxy, seam sealer, etc can cure while a Mustang gets its paint.
With the doors properly aligned to the quarters, the car now needs fiddling to align the fenders to the doors.
Quote from: hemi-hampton on January 17, 2021, 05:12:49 PM
Quote from: NHCharger on January 17, 2021, 03:32:54 PM
Quote from: 71charger_fan on January 17, 2021, 12:36:41 PM
It's a sad commentary on body shops that it's so hard to find someone who cares about the product he puts out.
Yup. That's why I ended up doing everything myself. The guy that did my 71 Charger did do a good job but he was rather quirky and difficult to deal with at times.
Probably 20+ years of paint fumes has done a number on him. ;)
I'm going to register for Carlisle this week.
So, that's what's wrong with me :scratchchin:
;) me too :scratchchin:
Quote from: NHCharger on January 19, 2021, 08:40:55 PM
Quote from: hemi-hampton on January 17, 2021, 05:12:49 PM
Quote from: NHCharger on January 17, 2021, 03:32:54 PM
Quote from: 71charger_fan on January 17, 2021, 12:36:41 PM
It's a sad commentary on body shops that it's so hard to find someone who cares about the product he puts out.
Yup. That's why I ended up doing everything myself. The guy that did my 71 Charger did do a good job but he was rather quirky and difficult to deal with at times.
Probably 20+ years of paint fumes has done a number on him. ;)
I'm going to register for Carlisle this week.
So, that's what's wrong with me :scratchchin:
That's ok, we still luv ya.
All kidding aside, I know two local bodyshop guys that spent the majority of their lives in the trade. One NEVER wore a mask except for final paint, the other would actually smoke a cigarette while sanding and priming. Both are now suffering a slow miserable death. I'll wear a full respirator even when I'm just sanding filler.
i use to also when blocking filler, in the end i become over sensitised all the fumes of everything in a body / paint shop , i would even wear a proper charcoal mask when even just mixing filler & troweling it on :P. even just mixing paint / primers & cleaning guns. was better when we changed to waterbase 20 yeas ago , but still used 2k MS HS solids & clear coats primers ,
use to wear all the correct safety gear masks suits gloves full face airs feds & still affected me , in the end even just the smell of cutting / polishing compound would affect me :icon_smile_blackeye: :yesnod: sorry for the mini hijack , just take no chances guys
Quote from: 71charger_fan on March 02, 2021, 01:02:19 PM
With the doors properly aligned to the quarters, the car now needs fiddling to align the fenders to the doors.
:coolgleamA: looks good ! :popcrn:
Quote from: hemi-hampton on January 17, 2021, 05:12:49 PM
So, that's what's wrong with me :scratchchin:
It's true! that's why Leon hastled me during my bodywork/paint! :hah:
So glad that it finally looks like a car again!!
I love it. Although some here hate 3rd gen Chargers. FT. I own 3. :nana:
Do all the body lines line up. LEON.
Once the driver fender gets dialed in all the body lines will be lined up.
After some persuasion, the front fenders are aligned to the doors and the gaps are set.
was that persuasion with a hammer?
That's what it took.
Yeah, That don't look to good. Looks like both the Fender & Hood is part of the Problem unfortunately. :scratchchin: Good Luck :scratchchin:
The hood's a '74. But, the original hood rubbed at the front driver side corner since I bought the car in '86. If I have to accept a less-than-ideal hood to fender gap, I can live with it.
You shouldn't have to live with that, it can be made straight, i've done many before, may not be easy though, sometimes you gotta cut & weld ect., ect., I had one bowed out so bad (gap like over 1 inch wide) I had to weld a long steel plate along top of fender edge & pull on frame machine. Good Luck
I was thinking a couple of relief cuts on the inside of the forward third of the driver fender might do the trick. I'm sure my body guy will get it. He's very, very picky. I'll probably drive up there Monday or Tuesday and see how it's going.
When I talked to him on Monday, he was confident that he'd get it all aligned. He was hoping to start body work on the rest of the car this week.
Got it in position to bodywork the lower parts of the car.
Awesome work. I prefer the 71-72 Charger looks. Looks like it is going 200mph standing still. :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Man that photo just inspires me to keep plugging away at mine. Looks great at that angle!
Quote from: 71charger_fan on April 01, 2021, 05:32:20 PM
Got it in position to bodywork the lower parts of the car.
The unibody wasn't as solid as it is now when the car was new.
Rust "repair" to the lower fender done by the previous shop cut out and done correctly.
Let the blocking begin.
Looking good.
Lines look sharp!
Blending the quarter panel end caps.
Another previous "repair" cut out and redone properly.
Looking really good!! :cheers:
Man, I honestly never gave the 71 Charger a good look until this thread. One of side shot pictures really shows off the lines and curves of the car. Keep posting pics!!
:popcrn: :popcrn:
Body alignment was a mess before. Looking like it should have looked when new now.
How'd the Hood to Fender gaps come out :scratchchin: :shruggy:
They look good. Haven't seen it with the restored hinges installed. Front fenders still need some metal work and will need a lot of blocking. I'll probably retrieve the dash and associated components next week and start rewiring and reassembling that myself.
Wow, this thread started in 2014. I admire your dedication to this project. It's gonna be epic! :cheers:
Those shaved drip rails look great. I thought about that on mine but still not sure about it....
I paid the previous shop to fix the rusted out drip rails. I thought they had. Turns out, they just filled the rust holes with seam sealer and painted over it. So, the cost to remove them and the cost to fix them was about the same, so I told him to take them off.
A fresh coat of satin black on the dash frame.
Restored '73/'74 hinges installed and hood aligned.
Ah that's shit. I thought of buying that but got a great deal on a 2nd rally cluster and plan to retro fit it with new gauges.
I don't think it looks like shit. Kinda cool :cheers: :cheers:
Passenger fender done, on to the driver fender.
Quote from: ACUDANUT on May 20, 2021, 09:53:57 AM
I don't think it looks like shit. Kinda cool :cheers: :cheers:
Sorry not saying it looks like shit. It's shit that he's not happy with fit.
Not sure if your past this point but heres some photos of dash/firewall
I would love some dash/firewall photos.
Sorry boss, forgot the link
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,138138.msg1712150.html#msg1712150
No paint in 8 years ??
Quote from: ACUDANUT on May 28, 2021, 09:35:15 PM
No paint in 8 years ??
It was painted and looked good under fluorescent light. When I got it out in the sun, the search began for someone who could do it over and do it well.
I worked out all the hookups from the American Autowire harness to the factory cluster. Now to unplug everything and make it neat. I'm thinking of wiring a second, single DIN, modern radio, mounted in the glovebox in to the mix. I could just turn off the repro one in the dash and use the JVC with a couple thousand songs on a thumb drive for road trips. I have the radio and there are extra accessory circuits.
Getting a handle on taming the wiring rat's nest.
Fully blocked and in final prime. Sand the gloss off of the final prime, sealer, then, finally, color.
The inside of the driver frame rail had a rust through that had been covered up with seam sealer then painted over. Now, it's actually fixed with steel.
Broken spot weld on the core support that had been "fixed" with seam sealer and painted over.
I switched the wires in the American Autowire front lighting plug to the factory color scheme.
The front lighting harness is done and ready to go in. I checked continuity through the whole thing today. I've taken the engine/ignition harness as far as I can without the engine and transmission in the car. I have to make the plug that connects to the neutral safety/reverse light switch but that has to wait until I can be certain how long to make the leads. I also have to determine length for the electric choke lead and ignition power and tach leads.
Bed liner instead of paint for inside the front fenders should prove much more protective.
Why didn't the factory do this ?
There's no upside for the manufacturer to make it last forever.
They did put some heavy duty under coating in some of these front Fenders Backsides. LEON.
Previous body shop painted over rust inside the front valance. Of course they did.
Finally have base coat going on. Too bad the lighting washes out the color.
Good efforts man :2thumbs:
Bedliner was the right call under the fenders too I reckon.
is that FC7 Plum Crazy Purple?
Quote from: hemi-hampton on June 24, 2021, 08:02:37 PM
is that FC7 Plum Crazy Purple?
Looks like Plum Crazy under florescent light, but it's actually Stryker Purple.
https://m.facebook.com/Doug-Carbaughs-Auto-Restorations-699745276876002/posts/?ref=page_internal&mt_nav=0
Not much to see as work has moved to prepping inside the trunk.
The rust hidden under paint and seam sealer on the front valance has been blasted away.
well...that car will be solid till at least 2310!
All it takes is one idiot texting while driving and it's all for nothing.
Mirrors, bezels, valances getting color.
:2thumbs: awesome color :popcrn:
Stopped by the shop today and the PPG rep was there. My plan was a white bumblebee stripe with pearl. He suggested that I think about a silver as most pearl has at least a hint of blue in it. So, after much discussion, I've landed on "Icing on Cake" silver for the stripe.
Ready for it's final, pre-paint sanding.
ALMOST there!!!!
https://m.facebook.com/Doug-Carbaughs-Auto-Restorations-699745276876002/videos/clear-coat-tomorrow-its-another-fighter-15-hours-invested-so-far-to-get-to-this-/543019550168195/
Looking good there man !!
First two coats of clear sanded and two more laid down.
YES!!! looking fantastic! :cheers: :popcrn:
Cut and buff progressing nicely.
I hope when you get the car home and all finished off you only wash it once because you are spending so much time driving it getting bugs stuck in the grill and squished on the windshield :icon_smile_wink:
Than the other way around spending more time washing it to keep it clean and fear driving it and getting it dirty :brickwall:
Tires have started to arrive. Fronts came today. Rears should be here Monday.
Starting to go back together. About a year from starting to get blown apart to starting to go back together.
Looking nice !!
Doors after final polish.
Coming along great. Thanks for the pictures. Keep them coming.
My paint guy pointed out that my master cylinder was all rusty and asked if I really wanted to reinstall that over fresh paint. So, this arrived today.
Going back together
Very nice! Love me some purple. :cheers:
Quote from: 71charger_fan on August 20, 2021, 04:24:43 PM
I decided to try Eastwood's brake paint.
I wonder if I can spray this into my military gas tanks, to keep my filler neck from rusting out ??
The reassembly takes a surprisingly long time.
Looks Nice, Congrats. :2thumbs: LEON.
Looking good Terry. :cheers: :cheers:
Now it needs white R/T stripes. :cheers: :cheers:
When you've just finished installing an A/C compressor this is not the optimal outcome when you go to hook up the line. Fortunately, I had a spare compressor.
I put the front bumper/grill assembly back together today.
I also swapped out the cruddy calipers for a freshly painted pair.
Today, got the brakes bled, front bumper/grill on, dome light wire fished through the A-pillar and a few other random things that needed to be done.
:2thumbs: :coolgleamA: :cheers:
Now to get the hood adjusted, install the steering wheel, hook up the battery, and hope for the best.
No R/T Stripes ? You added a front R/T spoiler...Very nice either way. Cheers.
It's gonna move under it's own power soon!!!
Column is in and wheel is on. Now to figure out why the horn won't shut up. That's a job for Monday.
Is that a Flaming river steering column?
Flaming River column, adapter, and wheel. The only real problem is that the Flaming River column is smaller diameter than the original column and the floor mount doesn't capture it correctly. I bought the Flaming River E-body floor mount. We had to enlarge a couple of the holes, but it worked fine.
What a relief to pull the headlight switch and have the lights come on and the headlight doors open.
Of course, now I have another big thing to store.
Does it go below the brake booster area on the frame rail to hold the cables going to the starter ?
That makes sense. Looks like I no longer need it. With the Schumacher headers and the mini starter, the starter wire now goes down the side of the block.
Found these two things in one of my containers of extra clips, bolts, screws, etc. Anyone recognize them? Where they attach? What they're for?
Interior trim cleaned up and refinished.
It's finally home.
Finally got it out in the sun
:cheers: :2thumbs:
Nice !!
:2thumbs: :drool5:
Since only one hole on the package shelf is a speaker hole and the other is for the defogger, I wanted the screw heads for the second speaker to sit flush so I cobbled together a tool to dimple the flat sheetmetal.
When I realized that my spare was almost 30 years old, it was time to buy a new one for the next 30 years. Found a dealer in Texas who had one of these left and got it for $60, including shipping.
I got the inside of the trunk finished. I found some carpet underlay and cut a piece to fit the package shelf, glued it on, and installed the shelf. Now, I'm not sure the order of how it's supposed to be assembled. I have the interior quarter trim on top of the package shelf but I'm wondering if it should go under.
Nice. Hope to see it at Carlisle next year.
Today was tailpipe day/exhaust tip day.
Best looking tips around. :2thumbs:
Installing the plastic sheeting is almost as tedious as installing the carpet.
The headliner has been folded up in the box for a couple of years. Now to try and relax out the creases.
Dodge didn't insulate the rear inner wheel wells. I had some leftover material from the '55 Plymouth wagon project so I put it to use.
I saw in the seat belt section of the service manual a mention of anti-rattle washers. I didn't have any such thing so I improvised.
Finally on the alignment rack.
I really screwed up my headliner installation. So, now I'm waiting on one backordered at Year One. I guess I will go ahead and fit all the trim to make sure it's good while I wait for the headliner.
Up in the air for transmission filter change. One of the three screws that hold the filter snapped so I'm waiting on delivery of some 10-24 by 2.25" to finish the job. Likely, I'll put a few miles on it, then do it again to make sure to get out any sludge loosened by this change.
Yesterday, I took it to Freestate Auto Repair in Frederick, MD and had the tailpipes modified so that the tips fit properly in the valance and got the A/C charged. Good work, fairly priced.
Still waiting for a back ordered headliner to replace the one I messed up.
New style emblem looks good on there
I bought three of them but decided to keep it simple and just put the one on the trunk lid. I bought one fender star in silver that came on Neons and put that on the right fender. Plus the modern Dodge emblem on the headlight door is all the external badging it's getting.
After an accident back in '89 that partially collapsed the quarter panel and the recent quarter panel replacement, I couldn't get the driver side rear window top adjusted out far enough. I finally pulled the adjuster out of the car and flipped the sliding part around and gained about an extra 1/4" of adjustment. Just what I needed to get the glass where it needed to be.
When I put the grille together, I was missing a headlight door bushing. I finally found another one in my stash and decided to put it in today. It was so much easier when the bumper was off the car.
Warmer temps meant it was time to pull the Charger out of hibernation and take another run at the headliner. First, I have to remove the remnants of the first failed attempt.
Headliner, one of my least favorite jobs.
I'm not enjoying it.
How does one get 16 pages on such a investment I can't get one.lol.
Pay people you trusted but shouldn't have a lot of money to do it wrong. Then, pay the right guy even more money to redo it and get it right.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/bHNyLcivectTeqng6
Finally getting it out.
Looks like it was in good company
Very Nice !!
At the Mason Dixon Dragway Mopar show yesterday.
Hit the weekly cruise in at the Valley Mall in Hagerstown last night.
love the color :yesnod: :coolgleamA: :2thumbs:
Got a sponsor's choice at a car show today hosted by a local Chevy club.
Local car show today.
Sharp! :cheers: