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Title: Galvanized pan between fender extensions ?
Post by: FJ5WING on November 22, 2012, 08:07:36 AM
Does anyone have a go to method for restoing the flat belly pan on Superbirds? When I was ta the shop I got a good look at mine and realized its in need of attention and I have no desire to paint it body color.
The pan itself is in pretty good shape with some minor surface rust and no dents or bends but it needs to look pretty again.

TIA,
Dave
Title: Re: Galvanized pan between fender extensions ?
Post by: Hemi Runner on November 22, 2012, 05:09:31 PM
I guess the proper thing to do would be to strip it and have it galvanized again???
Title: Re: Galvanized pan between fender extensions ?
Post by: Aero426 on November 22, 2012, 06:29:20 PM
MoparJohn can talk more about it, but I believe he has knowledge that the original spangle of the galvanizing process is tough/impossible to duplicate.   
Title: Re: Galvanized pan between fender extensions ?
Post by: JB400 on November 22, 2012, 06:34:21 PM
Maybe a replacement part would be more better unless it's just a driver
Title: Re: Galvanized pan between fender extensions ?
Post by: FJ5WING on November 22, 2012, 07:17:48 PM
Doug, I know the process of duplicating the original appearence is next to if not completely impossible but was wondering what others have done.
Im really set against painting the panel unless its my only option.

I'll have to get in touch with MoparJohn!
Title: Re: Galvanized pan between fender extensions ?
Post by: odcics2 on November 23, 2012, 09:52:37 PM
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on November 22, 2012, 06:34:21 PM
Maybe a replacement part would be more better unless it's just a driver

:iagree:
Title: Re: Galvanized pan between fender extensions ?
Post by: nascarxx29 on November 24, 2012, 03:00:05 AM
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86070.msg1091451.html#msg1091451




Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration




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Is this the part you were asking about?  If so, I have seen it both bare galvanizing and painted black.  Not sure if one or both ways are correct.

Title: Re: Galvanized pan between fender extensions ?
Post by: FJ5WING on November 24, 2012, 07:50:15 AM
my parts look like theyve already been restored compared to those in the link.

Yes, Thats the piece Im referring to, Ive seen them black too but always thought it was done post manufacturing. I could live with black although it makes no sense. :shruggy:
Any suggestions on degree of gloss? :D

This question gets em everytime! :nutkick:
Title: Re: Galvanized pan between fender extensions ?
Post by: talkiemopar on November 24, 2012, 01:22:04 PM
I have checked my unrestored bird that i bought new.The center pan is galvanized with no paint.Hope this helps. :scope: :blahblah: :blahblah: :blahblah: Rick.
Title: Re: Galvanized pan between fender extensions ?
Post by: FJ5WING on November 25, 2012, 08:27:54 AM
THANKS Rick!!!!

Id love to leave my pan natural but I dont think I can get the finiah restored properly.
Title: Re: Galvanized pan between fender extensions ?
Post by: odcics2 on November 25, 2012, 10:42:58 AM
How about some pics of the pan?   :shruggy:
Title: Re: Galvanized pan between fender extensions ?
Post by: Mopar John on November 25, 2012, 10:52:56 AM
Dave,
I work every day on a hot dip galvanizing line! Not that long ago I tried everything I could to replate a transmission dust cover. The transmission dust cover is similar in finish to the Superbird lower valance. Our process heats the steel to the same temparture as the zinc bath and it becomes one and the excess is blown off with a pair of nitrogen fed knives. When I dip a part long enough to have the zinc stick it comes out all distorted and warped! Over the years due to EPA regulations the lead that was in the process was phased out. Due to the lower lead content it is impossible to get the right spangle look. Each time we have a shut down or abnormal situation I take a close look at the coated steel and it's always to shiny and no spangle.
  I have also tried bead blasting my trans dust cover and it does brighten it up but it ruins the zinc coating. Here is what has worked best for me. If your part is not all rusty and corroded just take a piece of fine wet sand paper and give it a light wet sand. It will brighten it up and not loose the galvanized look. If that's not possible look through Eastwoods catalog and they had a spray zinc look alike. I think both of these solutions look better than painting the valance!
 I hope this info helps you decide which way to go!
MJ
Title: Re: Galvanized pan between fender extensions ?
Post by: FJ5WING on November 25, 2012, 11:22:32 AM
John,
Thanks for the informative input!!!!! :2thumbs:
I do have some light corrosion so the wet sand/polish is out. Ill lightly blast and hit it with some of the Eastwood coating. Thank You!!!!!! :cheers:
Title: Re: Galvanized pan between fender extensions ?
Post by: FJ5WING on November 30, 2012, 03:14:24 PM
Ive been told by the shop I  provided the incorrect attaching hardware for the pan.

Does anyone have specs for the attaching hardware?
Thanks!
Dave
Title: Re: Galvanized pan between fender extensions ?
Post by: FJ5WING on December 07, 2012, 09:44:20 AM
 :think:
Title: Re: Galvanized pan hardware
Post by: RealWing on December 09, 2012, 07:10:09 PM
Quote from: FJ5WING on November 30, 2012, 03:14:24 PM
Ive been told by the shop I  provided the incorrect attaching hardware for the pan.

Does anyone have specs for the attaching hardware?
Thanks!
Dave

Some Superbirds were painted black on the bottom only. The paint didnt stick very well since it was applied over the galvanize. These are some photos from an original unrestored bird with a closeup of the bolts.
Title: Re: Galvanized pan rad support seal
Post by: RealWing on December 09, 2012, 07:19:53 PM
Some photos of the rad support seal and bolts and the 2 plastic push pins.. These original  bolts were manufactured by the Anchor Bolt Co.
Title: Re: Galvanized pan between fender extensions ?
Post by: FJ5WING on December 10, 2012, 08:46:53 AM
RealWing,

Thank you VERY much for some great pictures!

I was at the shop last week and discovered that my pan has trace evidence of black paint around a few of the bolt holes protected by the bolt heads from the elements. I'll be painting my pan black afterall.