Dumb question for you '70 guys

[bull]

What's the difference between a '70 Charger 500 and a '70 Charger SE? Or is the 500 basically the base model, the non-500 the sub-base model and the SE a fancier 500? Please explain.

[Chris G.]

There's no base model (XH) SE. Either you got the 500 SE or RT/SE. Like you said, it was basically a fancier interior. The 500 comes standard with a black gauge cluster. When you got the SE, it turned into the wood grain applique. You also got the door panels, SE emblem on the sail panel (gaak) and the other goodies that come in the SE package. How's that? 

[Charger1970]

The 70 models were...
Charger (base model with taillights similar to a '69 and standard bench seat)
Charger 500
Charger R/T

According to my 70 Facts Manual, the SE package could be added to the 500 and R/T models. It included leather faced front bucket seats, wood grain dash, pedal dress-up, light group, deep dish wheel covers and a C pillar emblem.

[Charger1970]

DOH!  That dang burnt70R/T beat me to it AGAIN! 

[Chris G.]

DOH!  That dang burnt70R/T beat me to it AGAIN! 

Sorry Doug.  It's all I'm good at. 

[bull]

Ok. I was just reading a year-old article about that 1970 Charger that has over 400,000 miles on it. The guy bought it new and drove it everywhere but the article said nothing about it being a 500. It just said it was a 1970 Charger SE.

[hotrod98]

I learn something new every day. I saw a 70 charger for sale recently and I thought it had 69 taillights. Turns out they were 70 taillights. Never realized that there two different taillights available on 70's.

[dd44068]

whats the difference between the two different tail lights on a 70

[andy74]

Ok. I was just reading a year-old article about that 1970 Charger that has over 400,000 miles on it. The guy bought it new and drove it everywhere but the article said nothing about it being a 500. It just said it was a 1970 Charger SE.

i read that article too,guy bought it new in 70,and has had it since-pretty cool that you would put that many miles on one car,and still have it-but thats why they are still around,people care about chargers!

[Charger_Fan]

whats the difference between the two different tail lights on a 70

There's really four different ones used in '70 Chargers...2 early style, 2 late style.
The later ones had reflectors behind the lenses, the earlier ones were like '69 cars & had no reflectors.

Here's a thread Dodge Don made regarding this...looks like the pics are dead, though.

http://1970chargerregistry.com/70messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=22

Here's a pic of mine, see the rectangular reflector?
(sorry, it's huge)

[MadScientist]

I met the guy with the 400K mile Charger in LA 2 years ago.  I believe the car is a 500 model. 

MS

[dd44068]

thanks charger fan i never knew that before you learn something new every day

[THE CHARGER PUNK]

its a 500SE that blue and white 400k car even though it dont say 500 anywhere on car-MATT

[AKcharger]

Don't forget the base model had no upper door panels either...just the steel door exposed like on darts and dusters

500's came stock with more trim too wheel well and rocker moldings as well as a clock in the dash if I recall my '70 brochure correctly

[bull]

Don't forget the base model had no upper door panels either...just the steel door exposed like on darts and dusters

500's came stock with more trim too wheel well and rocker moldings as well as a clock in the dash if I recall my '70 brochure correctly

That was my first Charger, a base '70. I didn't know Chargers even came with upper door pads and bucket seats until several years later when I saw a '68. Even then I just assumed it was a '68 thing.

[Big Lebowski]

That's weird, I've never owned one without the upper door pads, but most of my '70 Chargers were R/T's and 500's

[Ghoste]

So is it accurate to say the 500 is essentially an exterior package and the SE is interior trim?

[Johnny SixPack]

You also got the door panels, SE emblem on the sail panel (gaak) and the other goodies that come in the SE package. How's that? 

Hater!

I like my SEs.

Heck, I liked the first one so much I got another.

And don't you dare make fun of my map pockets! 

 

[bull]

I believe a '70 Charger 500 is basically the same as a '68 or '69 base model Charger. BTW, if anyone cares that article on the 400,000+ mile '70 was in the Feb. '05 Hemmings Muscle Machines Magazine. Very interesting.

[694spdRT]

I believe a '70 Charger 500 is basically the same as a '68 or '69 base model Charger.

The 500 took the place of the base XP29 Charger from '68 and '69. The XH29 Charger was the base model in 1970 and has the previously standard options mentioned above deleted to lower the base price.

[Chris G.]

So is it accurate to say the 500 is essentially an exterior package and the SE is interior trim?

Ghoste, the 500 was more of an interior upgrade than an exterior upgrade. The outside of the 500 got the tail panel finish piece and 500 badges (most of the time). The interior got the upper door pads, bucket seats, clock, wheel lip mouldings, etc. The SE is completely an interior package with the exception of the badges and wheel covers.

You also got the door panels, SE emblem on the sail panel (gaak) and the other goodies that come in the SE package. How's that? 

I like my SEs.

Heck, I liked the first one so much I got another.

And don't you dare make fun of my map pockets! 

 

Johnny, I like your SE as well. Can I have it?   But seriously, to take the Charger badge off the roof sail was a crime. They should have just added the SE badge underneath it. Oh and map pockets? Don't even get me started.  

[Dodge Don]

So is it accurate to say the 500 is essentially an exterior package and the SE is interior trim?

Ghoste, the 500 was more of an interior upgrade than an exterior upgrade. The outside of the 500 got the tail panel finish piece and 500 badges (most of the time). The interior got the upper door pads, bucket seats, clock, wheel lip mouldings, etc. The SE is completely an interior package with the exception of the badges and wheel covers.

You also got the door panels, SE emblem on the sail panel (gaak) and the other goodies that come in the SE package. How's that? 

I like my SEs.

Heck, I liked the first one so much I got another.

And don't you dare make fun of my map pockets! 

 

Johnny, I like your SE as well. Can I have it?   But seriously, to take the Charger badge off the roof sail was a crime. They should have just added the SE badge underneath it. Oh and map pockets? Don't even get me started.  

This is the one thing Chris and I are at odds on........A47 SE option is aces in my book. If your going to go fast....go fast with style.

[Charger1970]

I learn something new every day. I saw a 70 charger for sale recently and I thought it had 69 taillights. Turns out they were 70 taillights. Never realized that there two different taillights available on 70's.

Here's a base model 70 Charger taillight panel.

[Charger1970]

Here's my 70 Charger 500 taillight panel. The 70 R/T has the same taillight panel.

[Charger1970]

One more thing...if you think about it the Coronets got the same treatment. The base 69 Coronet model didn't have the same taillights as a Coronet 500 or Coronet R/T. I am pretty sure it was the same for the 70 Coronet models.

(SORRY FOR THE THREAD HIJACK  )