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Mopar Garage => Paint, Body & Trim => Topic started by: green69rt on August 18, 2014, 04:52:30 PM

Title: Green69rt's grill and grill frame.
Post by: green69rt on August 18, 2014, 04:52:30 PM
Mostly this note is to document the condition of my original grill.   Compared to some I think it is in pretty good shape.   

Pic #1 shows the driver headlight surrround.  I think this is typical of the damage these things see.

Pic #2 shows the center section.  A quick look and it appears that the grid is 100% good!  Even the area behind the nose piece is fine.

Pic #3 shows the worst of the center section.  The plastic that holds the bottom screws that attached to the pass side headlight surround is broken off.  PO had made a repair by placing a strap of metal under the plastic that held the two parts together.  You can see the screw holes left when I took it apart.

Pic #4 shows the pass side headlight surround and the missing piece of the center section still bolted on with completely rusted up bolts.
Title: Re: Green69rt's grill and grill frame.
Post by: fy469rtse on August 19, 2014, 08:13:13 PM
in better shape then most mitch.
lots of good threads on here for repairs, one thing i do which stops any of thesestress cracks coming back to haunt me , the support frames are week, just spotwelded ,i mig weld them in joints and to the underside to stop the flex, just did a friends one, hold it in the middle and shake it, it will flap like a set of wings,
but not after you weld flimsy spot welded joints where no one will notice
Title: Re: Green69rt's grill and grill frame.
Post by: green69rt on August 19, 2014, 08:21:10 PM
Quote from: fy469rtse on August 19, 2014, 08:13:13 PM
in better shape then most mitch.
lots of good threads on here for repairs, one thing i do which stops any of thesestress cracks coming back to haunt me , the support frames are week, just spotwelded ,i mig weld them in joints and to the underside to stop the flex, just did a friends one, hold it in the middle and shake it, it will flap like a set of wings,
but not after you weld flimsy spot welded joints where no one will notice

Good thought, I like it, I think I'll follow your advice.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Green69rt's grill and grill frame.
Post by: fy469rtse on August 19, 2014, 08:28:59 PM
yes it's well worth doing, nothing worse then going to all the effort to repare grill , bonnet's up and the first time you lean on that grill support, , ! CRACK ! been theer done that , this helps
Title: Re: Green69rt's grill and grill frame.
Post by: green69rt on August 19, 2014, 10:48:31 PM
Quote from: fy469rtse on August 19, 2014, 08:28:59 PM
yes it's well worth doing, nothing worse then going to all the effort to repare grill , bonnet's up and the first time you lean on that grill support, , ! CRACK ! been theer done that , this helps

Wait...bonnet!!  Just a little :poke:
Title: Re: Green69rt's grill and grill frame.
Post by: Charger-Bodie on August 21, 2014, 07:31:50 PM
If you make the header panel stiff , you will want to use some rubber shims between it and the plastic grill . That brittle plastic needs some forgiveness, because the fit is never that precise.
Title: Re: Green69rt's grill and grill frame.
Post by: green69rt on January 29, 2017, 05:20:03 PM
So, starting to get the old grill out and looking over the pieces.  The trim looks pretty rough so was thinking of buying a repop set.  Looks like Classic industries and AMD are the same.  Anyone have any info on quality and fit?   Somewhere, IIRC, I heard that the metal on the repops is pretty flimsy.
Title: Re: Green69rt's grill and grill frame.
Post by: BLK 68 R/T on January 29, 2017, 08:40:23 PM
I bought some reproduction trim for mine, only problem I had was with the clips. The lips on the backside of the trim that the rectangle part of the clip slides into are not as good as factory (go figure  :rotz: ) I had to crimp the trim down some by hand and use some soft tools to make the trim actually fit the clips. I only had trouble with the 2 curved end pieces. The long straight ones seemed to be okay.
Title: Re: Green69rt's grill and grill frame.
Post by: Charger-Bodie on January 29, 2017, 08:57:09 PM
Quote from: BLK 68 R/T on January 29, 2017, 08:40:23 PM
I bought some reproduction trim for mine, only problem I had was with the clips. The lips on the backside of the trim that the rectangle part of the clip slides into are not as good as factory (go figure  :rotz: ) I had to crimp the trim down some by hand and use some soft tools to make the trim actually fit the clips. I only had trouble with the 2 curved end pieces. The long straight ones seemed to be okay.

This is how all of the trim sets I've used have been too.
Title: Re: Green69rt's grill and grill frame.
Post by: Lennard on January 29, 2017, 09:20:48 PM
Quote from: Charger-Bodie on January 29, 2017, 08:57:09 PM
Quote from: BLK 68 R/T on January 29, 2017, 08:40:23 PM
I bought some reproduction trim for mine, only problem I had was with the clips. The lips on the backside of the trim that the rectangle part of the clip slides into are not as good as factory (go figure  :rotz: ) I had to crimp the trim down some by hand and use some soft tools to make the trim actually fit the clips. I only had trouble with the 2 curved end pieces. The long straight ones seemed to be okay.

This is how all of the trim sets I've used have been too.
I had the same problem.
That is to be expected when buying reproduction trim that only costs $280.  :insertsarcasm:
Title: Re: Green69rt's grill and grill frame.
Post by: green69rt on January 30, 2017, 08:43:12 AM
Quote from: Lennard on January 29, 2017, 09:20:48 PM
Quote from: Charger-Bodie on January 29, 2017, 08:57:09 PM
Quote from: BLK 68 R/T on January 29, 2017, 08:40:23 PM
I bought some reproduction trim for mine, only problem I had was with the clips. The lips on the backside of the trim that the rectangle part of the clip slides into are not as good as factory (go figure  :rotz: ) I had to crimp the trim down some by hand and use some soft tools to make the trim actually fit the clips. I only had trouble with the 2 curved end pieces. The long straight ones seemed to be okay.

This is how all of the trim sets I've used have been too.
I had the same problem.
That is to be expected when buying reproduction trim that only costs $280.  :insertsarcasm:

I saw the price at AMD and CI, complete set is $389    :o
Title: Re: Green69rt's grill and grill frame.
Post by: Charger-Bodie on January 30, 2017, 09:05:34 AM
Try mega parts
Title: Re: Green69rt's grill and grill frame.
Post by: green69rt on January 30, 2017, 11:35:20 AM
Quote from: Charger-Bodie on January 30, 2017, 09:05:34 AM
Try mega parts

Ahh...$250, that's better, plus they also have the hardware sets for less money. 

Thanks
Title: Re: Green69rt's grill and grill frame.
Post by: timmycharger on February 07, 2017, 07:41:15 PM
Just paid $179 for my trim set through an Ebay vendor, free shipping as well. I had the same issue as described above with the corner pieces, other that that they look great.