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Mopar Garage => Electric, Gauges, & Lights => Topic started by: Danny Gutierrez on August 04, 2005, 02:25:15 PM

Title: Electical gurus I need HELP!!!(update!)
Post by: Danny Gutierrez on August 04, 2005, 02:25:15 PM
  Sorry, but this is gonna be a looong post. 

  First of all my 69 has ALL new wiring throughout (about 3 years old).  Have driven her for 3 years now with NO problems.  A couple of months ago while on a highway cruise all my gauges peaked for about 3 seconds and then settled back to normal.  This happened again about a week later.  It was HOT outside!!  Then one night she was hard to start.  Plenty of cranking but no spark.  Got her started and on the way home my aftermarket tachometer began dancing all around.  This lasted about 4 seconds and returned back to normal.  The next day while driving she suddenly died and would NOT start.  Inspection revealed my Accel coil was leaking oil!!!  Replaced the coil and still no spark.  Replaced voltage regulator with new one from local parts chain.  No spark.  Decided to change ECU.  I was running the chrome box and I installed my "old" orange box.  She started right up!!!  Figuring everything was solved I drove her that day on errands.  She ran fine.  Next day she began dying again.  First sign of trouble was when I turned my ignition key to sart her she did nothing!!!!!  No cranking at all!!  I checked under the car to see if the nuetral switch was in good shape.  No problems there.  I jiggled the key and she started.  At sthe stop lights in idle, the amp gauge would dance between straight up and max charge.  Once I got on the throttle she would hesitate slightly and the gauge would return to normal.  She died a couple of times, but made it home.  Now I am at a loss as to the problem.  My 69 has the MP electronic distributor with a new voltage regulator (big black box) and an Accel coil.  It also has the MP 1/4 ohm ballast resistor with 7 year old orange box.  Once again thanks for the help in advance. 
Title: Re: Electical gurus I need some HELP!!!
Post by: Charger4404spd on August 04, 2005, 05:29:57 PM
Wow, talk about electrical gremlins. Sounds like there may be more than one problem. Do you have another ignition switch you can try?
The gauges going crazy sounds like the voltage limiter is going screwy!
Title: Re: Electical gurus I need some HELP!!!
Post by: beenaround on August 04, 2005, 07:41:55 PM
 :iagree: it sounds like you have more than one problem danny.the gauges pinning is caused by the voltage limiter on the back of the instrutment cluster.the no start with no spark was probaly a bad box.the no crank might be the wiring at the back of the ignition switch.take a look there.see if the connector is melted.and keep us informed.
Title: Re: Electical gurus I need some HELP!!!
Post by: Ghoste on August 04, 2005, 08:55:04 PM
And as always, check the firewall connector.  You may have some other bad grounds too.
Title: Re: Electical gurus I need some HELP!!!
Post by: Chryco Psycho on August 04, 2005, 11:59:31 PM
make sure the connections on the ammeter are tight as well
Title: Re: Electical gurus I need some HELP!!!
Post by: Charger_Fan on August 05, 2005, 02:38:05 PM
Make sure you're carrying a fire extinguisher with you too.
That would really suck to watch it burn because of some bad wires.
Title: Re: Electical gurus I need some HELP!!!
Post by: Danny Gutierrez on August 05, 2005, 03:41:54 PM
Quote from: CHARGER_FAN on August 05, 2005, 02:38:05 PM
Make sure you're carrying a fire extinguisher with you too.
That would really suck to watch it burn because of some bad wires.

Ha ha!!  Good advice!! :yesnod:  I replaced my old orange box with a new unit and now the car starts right up every time BUT she dies as soon as I put her in gear or even turn on the headlights!!!!!!!  Heck, if I press the brake pedal or open the door she dies!!!  I purchased a new voltage limiter for the dash and a new chrome 75 amp "square back" two field alternator.  The instructions say that I can ground out one of the field connections to modify the newer square back to work with my 69.  (I had the old, round back, 50 amp one field alternator)  Anyways, I still need to inspect the ignition switch and firewall connections.  Does anyone know where I can purchase a new ignition switch???  I'm talking about the whole housing and key cylinder.  Once again thanks guys!!! :icon_smile_big:
Title: Re: Electical gurus I need HELP!!!(update!)
Post by: beenaround on August 05, 2005, 07:37:08 PM
danny a napa store may be able to provide the switch and housing.you need to find an "old timer" who is willing to look through their old parts catalog.if you have no success pm me and i will go on the search.
Title: Re: Electical gurus I need HELP!!!(update!)
Post by: Nacho-RT74 on August 06, 2005, 12:01:43 PM
Troy has Original NOS 69 switches... I sent him
Title: Re: Electical gurus I need HELP!!!(update!)
Post by: Nacho-RT74 on August 07, 2005, 03:50:40 PM
Quote from: Ranger Max on August 06, 2005, 12:39:51 PM
QuoteMake sure you're carrying a fire extinguisher with you too.
Lmao ...thats standard equipment in mine. I guess I am not the only
one thats parnoid about fire in the dodge!

are you serious ? NO WAY ? do you mean specially because teh charging wiring ?

LOL