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Title: First lady wears SUBLIME!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: DoubleDlover on August 27, 2020, 09:25:01 PM
OMG that color looked as good on her as it does on one of my birds!!!!!!!!!!   LOVE IT!!!!!!!
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Post by: DoubleDlover on August 27, 2020, 09:26:16 PM
well. It might be more close to sassygrass.. But still... love it!!!!!!
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Post by: 70 sublime on August 27, 2020, 09:44:41 PM
And the picture of this ??
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Post by: JB400 on August 27, 2020, 10:18:27 PM
  She does look good

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgeWfgaXcAAZ_UC?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: First lady wears SUBLIME!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: DoubleDlover on August 27, 2020, 10:32:33 PM
JB>>> Thanks for posting that pic!!!  BEAUTIFULL!!!!!!!
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Post by: Paul G on August 27, 2020, 11:05:05 PM
She would look good in a gunny sack!
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Post by: ACUDANUT on August 28, 2020, 02:30:45 PM
 I'd rather have Kate Middleton.  :D
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Post by: Kern Dog on August 28, 2020, 05:16:02 PM
I'd rather have Kate Beckingsdale but only as long as she never mentioned Politics. Many of the beautiful actresses are looney.  :nana:
Title: Re: First lady wears SUBLIME!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Mike DC on August 28, 2020, 05:43:44 PM
  
QuoteI'd rather have Kate Beckinsale but only as long as she never mentioned Politics. Many of the beautiful actresses are looney.  nana

It's not just the ones that are actresses.  

Title: Re: First lady wears SUBLIME!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: DoubleDlover on August 28, 2020, 09:20:56 PM
I want the one thats the naughtest in bed!!!!!!!! LOL
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Post by: birdsandbees on August 28, 2020, 09:45:58 PM
Yep.. and I'm pretty certain it's not with the Donald.. :yesnod:

Nice dress..
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Post by: odcics2 on August 29, 2020, 07:30:12 AM

Falwell Jrs. wife is a good roll in the hay. Just ask the pool boy!!!  :lol:
Title: Re: First lady wears SUBLIME!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: ACUDANUT on August 29, 2020, 08:40:14 AM
Quote from: odcics2 on August 29, 2020, 07:30:12 AM

Falwell Jrs. wife is a good roll in the hay. Just ask the pool boy!!!  :lol:


Lucky guy  :cheers:
Title: Re: First lady wears SUBLIME!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: odcics2 on August 30, 2020, 01:18:29 PM
Another lucky guy!

https://www.foxnews.com/us/former-liberty-student-alleges-sexual-encounter-with-becki-falwell-claims-she-was-aggressor
Title: Re: First lady wears SUBLIME!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: birdsandbees on August 30, 2020, 03:22:03 PM
I miss cleaning pools...  :icon_smile_big: :icon_smile_big: but at least the wife continues the fantasy for me ...  :lol:
Title: Re: First lady wears SUBLIME!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: odcics2 on August 31, 2020, 05:43:36 AM

Hmmm, wonder who the pool guy is at the White House?    :shruggy:   

Or maybe the gardener??    Trim the bush?    :smilielol:
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Post by: 451-74Charger on August 31, 2020, 09:46:56 AM
Who's the guy in the Go ManGO ? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :smilielol:
Title: Re: First lady wears SUBLIME!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: chargered on August 31, 2020, 12:48:33 PM
I knew Melania must be a Mopar fan............this confirms it. :laugh:
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Post by: Old Moparz on August 31, 2020, 03:14:57 PM
That dress is puss green from all the STD infections.
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Post by: Kern Dog on August 31, 2020, 03:29:58 PM
Pretty rude thing to say, loser.
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Post by: Lennard on September 01, 2020, 10:04:04 AM
Quote from: Kern Dog on August 31, 2020, 03:29:58 PM
Pretty rude thing to say, loser.
I see that you toned down your innitial reply. :icon_smile_big:
Title: Re: First lady wears SUBLIME!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: 70 sublime on September 01, 2020, 11:29:08 AM
Quote from: Lennard on September 01, 2020, 10:04:04 AM
Quote from: Kern Dog on August 31, 2020, 03:29:58 PM
Pretty rude thing to say, loser.
I see that you toned down your innitial reply. :icon_smile_big:

I noticed that too
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Post by: Old Moparz on September 01, 2020, 02:41:10 PM
Quote from: Kern Dog on August 31, 2020, 03:29:58 PM
Pretty rude thing to say, loser.


Hypocrisy at it's finest....LOL  :smilielol:
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Post by: greycharger on September 02, 2020, 10:46:15 AM
Quote from: Kern Dog on August 31, 2020, 03:29:58 PM
Pretty rude thing to say, loser.

Raw, no doubt, but you say you like humor that is rough and tumble.
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Post by: Kern Dog on September 02, 2020, 01:24:33 PM
Sure....But not against a woman that is a real biological female First lady.
Title: Re: First lady wears SUBLIME!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Old Moparz on September 02, 2020, 05:04:23 PM
Quote from: Kern Dog on September 02, 2020, 01:24:33 PM
Sure....But not against a woman that is a real biological female First lady.

She's a gold digging porn star looking to live on easy street.  :nana:
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Post by: XH29N0G on September 02, 2020, 06:09:35 PM
Why don't we let the first ladies be.  I have a lot of respect for Michelle, and I don't see Melania as bad. I know of no evidence (though I haven't looked for it) that she was purposefully a gold digger rather than just rolling with the system. 
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Post by: greycharger on September 02, 2020, 09:17:56 PM
Quote from: Kern Dog on September 02, 2020, 01:24:33 PM
Sure....But not against a woman that is a real biological female First lady.

Never questioned her gender until now...  you make an excellent point. We all believed without thinking. Gone are the days when we could accept people and things at face value.

So, can you prove she is a real biological female, and not a genotypical male? 
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Post by: Mike DC on September 02, 2020, 10:34:15 PM
      
Are you guys seriously debating whether Melania married that guy for his money?   :rofl:

Or is it one of those social class things?  Where everybody calls it something else when the ruling elite do it?  (It's only good-digging if the woman is worth $10k and marries a guy worth $250k.  When the numbers are $10m and $250m then somehow that's different.)      


I've got no particular feelings about Melania.  But come on, call it what it is.  She didn't marry that older guy for his sweet personality and great hair.

Did Ivanka marry Jared Kushner (instead of young Tom Brady) for his charm?  There's a pattern here.  

Title: Re: First lady wears SUBLIME!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Kern Dog on September 03, 2020, 12:07:42 AM
Quote from: greycharger on September 02, 2020, 09:17:56 PM
Quote from: Kern Dog on September 02, 2020, 01:24:33 PM
Sure....But not against a woman that is a real biological female First lady.

Never questioned her gender until now...  you make an excellent point. We all believed without thinking. Gone are the days when we could accept people and things at face value.

So, can you prove she is a real biological female, and not a genotypical male? 

If Melania is not a biological female, her Doctor is a magician.
Not so with Mama Obama. Ever see any pictures with her kids as babies? Me neither. Ever see her kids birth certificates? Me neither. Plenty of people believe that it is actually male. Joan Rivers died a month after publicly saying that Barack was gay and that Michele was a transsexual. I have seen pictures of her wearing dresses with an obvious crotch bulge though. Could be photoshop, I don't know. It is funny to joke about.
Title: Re: First lady wears SUBLIME!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Mike DC on September 03, 2020, 12:28:03 AM
    
Meh.  Michelle just seems like a strong dude because the husband standing next to her seems like a dork.   :Twocents:
 
Title: Re: First lady wears SUBLIME!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Kern Dog on September 03, 2020, 12:44:16 AM
At the very least, BHO was a good speaker when the Teleprompter was working.
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Post by: ACUDANUT on September 03, 2020, 07:09:06 AM
Quote from: Kern Dog on September 03, 2020, 12:07:42 AM
Quote from: greycharger on September 02, 2020, 09:17:56 PM
Quote from: Kern Dog on September 02, 2020, 01:24:33 PM
Sure....But not against a woman that is a real biological female First lady.

Never questioned her gender until now...  you make an excellent point. We all believed without thinking. Gone are the days when we could accept people and things at face value.

So, can you prove she is a real biological female, and not a genotypical male?  

If Melania is not a biological female, her Doctor is a magician.
Not so with Mama Obama. Ever see any pictures with her kids as babies? Me neither. Ever see her kids birth certificates? Me neither. Plenty of people believe that it is actually male. Joan Rivers died a month after publicly saying that Barack was gay and that Michele was a transsexual. I have seen pictures of her wearing dresses with an obvious crotch bulge though. Could be photoshop, I don't know. It is funny to joke about.

She was a dude, and Obama's mamma and daddy were losers.  :cheers:
Title: Re: First lady wears SUBLIME!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Old Moparz on September 03, 2020, 10:44:05 AM
Quote from: Kern Dog on September 03, 2020, 12:07:42 AM
Quote from: greycharger on September 02, 2020, 09:17:56 PM
Quote from: Kern Dog on September 02, 2020, 01:24:33 PM
Sure....But not against a woman that is a real biological female First lady.

Never questioned her gender until now...  you make an excellent point. We all believed without thinking. Gone are the days when we could accept people and things at face value.

So, can you prove she is a real biological female, and not a genotypical male? 

If Melania is not a biological female, her Doctor is a magician.
Not so with Mama Obama. Ever see any pictures with her kids as babies? Me neither. Ever see her kids birth certificates? Me neither. Plenty of people believe that it is actually male. Joan Rivers died a month after publicly saying that Barack was gay and that Michele was a transsexual. I have seen pictures of her wearing dresses with an obvious crotch bulge though. Could be photoshop, I don't know. It is funny to joke about.


It is funny?  Seems that just a few posts earlier you had your panties in a bunch.   :smilielol:
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Post by: greycharger on September 03, 2020, 11:38:01 AM
I find Laura Bush more attractive than other FL's.
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Post by: Kern Dog on September 03, 2020, 12:40:07 PM
Quote from: Old Moparz on September 03, 2020, 10:44:05 AM

It is funny?  Seems that just a few posts earlier you had your panties in a bunch.   :smilielol:

Yeah, it is funny to me.
Melania has done nothing that I can tell that is rude, mean or offensive. I see no reason for people to denigrate her.
Mama Obama though...From her admitted dislike for the country to her failed attempts at fighting childhood obesity to the fawning all over her by the media, she just annoys me. This is the face of a woman that the media called glamorous and elegant ....
Title: Re: First lady wears SUBLIME!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: ACUDANUT on September 03, 2020, 03:23:25 PM
Quote from: Kern Dog on September 03, 2020, 12:40:07 PM
Quote from: Old Moparz on September 03, 2020, 10:44:05 AM

It is funny?  Seems that just a few posts earlier you had your panties in a bunch.   :smilielol:

Yeah, it is funny to me.
Melania has done nothing that I can tell that is rude, mean or offensive. I see no reason for people to denigrate her.
Mama Obama though...From her admitted dislike for the country to her failed attempts at fighting childhood obesity to the fawning all over her by the media, she just annoys me. This is the face of a woman that the media called glamorous and elegant ....

Perfect !! :cheers:
Title: Re: First lady wears SUBLIME!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Old Moparz on September 03, 2020, 03:25:13 PM
Quote from: Kern Dog on September 03, 2020, 12:40:07 PM
Quote from: Old Moparz on September 03, 2020, 10:44:05 AM

It is funny?  Seems that just a few posts earlier you had your panties in a bunch.   :smilielol:

Yeah, it is funny to me.
Melania has done nothing that I can tell that is rude, mean or offensive. I see no reason for people to denigrate her.
Mama Obama though...From her admitted dislike for the country to her failed attempts at fighting childhood obesity to the fawning all over her by the media, she just annoys me. This is the face of a woman that the media called glamorous and elegant ....


I bet her past porn star days offends a few folks.  :yesnod:

Personally I don't care what she did, she's just not the so called, "classy woman" that some people try to claim.
Title: Re: First lady wears SUBLIME!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: timmycharger on September 03, 2020, 03:35:09 PM
Quote from: Old Moparz on September 03, 2020, 03:25:13 PM
Quote from: Kern Dog on September 03, 2020, 12:40:07 PM
Quote from: Old Moparz on September 03, 2020, 10:44:05 AM

It is funny?  Seems that just a few posts earlier you had your panties in a bunch.   :smilielol:

Yeah, it is funny to me.
Melania has done nothing that I can tell that is rude, mean or offensive. I see no reason for people to denigrate her.
Mama Obama though...From her admitted dislike for the country to her failed attempts at fighting childhood obesity to the fawning all over her by the media, she just annoys me. This is the face of a woman that the media called glamorous and elegant ....


I bet her past porn star days offends a few folks.  :yesnod:

Personally I don't care what she did, she's just not the so called, "classy woman" that some people try to claim.

If you are referring to the modeling pics of her nude as being a porn star, then boy, you need to get out more or actually see what a porn star does  :rofl:


Not a fan of the prior first lady either Kern but I think that photo is a tad photoshopped  :smilielol:
Title: Re: First lady wears SUBLIME!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Old Moparz on September 03, 2020, 03:49:07 PM
Quote from: timmycharger on September 03, 2020, 03:35:09 PM

If you are referring to the modeling pics of her nude as being a porn star, then boy, you need to get out more or actually see what a porn star does  :rofl:



No, I'm not referring to her nude modeling pics.

If you get out & physically see what a porn star does you might want to stock up on condoms to go with your Covid19 masks.  :smilielol:
Title: Re: First lady wears SUBLIME!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: timmycharger on September 03, 2020, 03:52:51 PM
Quote from: Old Moparz on September 03, 2020, 03:49:07 PM
Quote from: timmycharger on September 03, 2020, 03:35:09 PM

If you are referring to the modeling pics of her nude as being a porn star, then boy, you need to get out more or actually see what a porn star does  :rofl:



No, I'm not referring to her nude modeling pics.

If you get out & physically see what a porn star does you might want to stock up on condoms to go with your Covid19 masks.  :smilielol:


hahaha touche' !!   

BTW, you kill me with those GIFs.. the last one with the mouse had me rolling the first time I saw it.  :2thumbs:
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Post by: greycharger on September 03, 2020, 03:54:09 PM
Way to use your First Amendment!  Don't forget to vote on the 4th.
 You could have used the First to talk about something of substance, such as: The President of the United States of America, committing a Felony by telling North Carolina voters to vote twice. Like a criminal, he will claim it was a joke. Unlike a comedian, he is never funny. ...but comedians who use fascist and hateful material never are.

Warning: Voting twice in most States is a Felony. Sending fake Ballots is a Felony. Encouraging anyone to vote twice is a Felony (in N.C.). With today's technology, they will catch cheaters. According to the National Review's study of Colorado, quoted by Hannity on his show, for every one million votes cast, authorities found and prosecuted one person for voter fraud.
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Post by: odcics2 on September 03, 2020, 06:13:09 PM
Quote from: greycharger on September 03, 2020, 03:54:09 PM
Way to use your First Amendment!  Don't forget to vote on the 4th.
 You could have used the First to talk about something of substance, such as: The President of the United States of America, committing a Felony by telling North Carolina voters to vote twice. Like a criminal, he will claim it was a joke. Unlike a comedian, he is never funny. ...but comedians who use fascist and hateful material never are.

Warning: Voting twice in most States is a Felony. Sending fake Ballots is a Felony. Encouraging anyone to vote twice is a Felony (in N.C.). With today's technology, they will catch cheaters. According to the National Review's study of Colorado, quoted by Hannity on his show, for every one million votes cast, authorities found and prosecuted one person for voter fraud.

Democrats vote on Nov. 3rd.
Republicans vote on the 4th.

:lol:
Title: Re: First lady wears SUBLIME!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: ACUDANUT on September 03, 2020, 07:04:48 PM
 Your vote does not count. The electoral votes voids any voter votes.  I wish you guys would understand this. Dike Hillary won the popular vote, but it did not matter.
Title: Re: First lady wears SUBLIME!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: ACUDANUT on September 03, 2020, 08:39:43 PM
Quote from: odcics2 on September 03, 2020, 06:13:09 PM
Quote from: greycharger on September 03, 2020, 03:54:09 PM
Way to use your First Amendment!  Don't forget to vote on the 4th.
 You could have used the First to talk about something of substance, such as: The President of the United States of America, committing a Felony by telling North Carolina voters to vote twice. Like a criminal, he will claim it was a joke. Unlike a comedian, he is never funny. ...but comedians who use fascist and hateful material never are.

Warning: Voting twice in most States is a Felony. Sending fake Ballots is a Felony. Encouraging anyone to vote twice is a Felony (in N.C.). With today's technology, they will catch cheaters. According to the National Review's study of Colorado, quoted by Hannity on his show, for every one million votes cast, authorities found and prosecuted one person for voter fraud.

Democrats vote on Nov. 4th
Republicans vote on the 3rd.


:lol:
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Post by: gtx6970 on September 03, 2020, 09:09:21 PM
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Re: First lady wears SUBLIME!!!!!!!!!!


AND she nailed it btw

In regards to either Melania  or Michelle

Sorry, But Melania is and will absolutely NO DOUBT win that battle hands down by a MAJOR amount of the male population. I dont care what color  she is or ISN'T wearing.
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Post by: ACUDANUT on September 03, 2020, 09:12:13 PM
Never seen pictures of the 1st lady without clothes.  :scratchchin:
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Post by: Paul G on September 03, 2020, 11:59:13 PM
Quote from: odcics2 on September 03, 2020, 06:13:09 PM

Democrats vote on Nov. 3rd.
Republicans vote on the 4th.


Thats incorrect. Dems vote until they get enough to win.
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Post by: Mike DC on September 04, 2020, 01:40:41 AM
QuoteThats incorrect. Dems vote until they get enough to win.

Let's just count all the votes in November and see where the chips fall.  That includes the mail-in votes.  That means we won't know on election night who really won. 


Voter fraud is statistically not a thing.  Even the GOP cannot find it.  They investigate claims about "millions of illegal votes" (which gets a lot of press attention) and they find hardly any (which doesn't get attention).  It's a joke. 

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Post by: Old Moparz on September 04, 2020, 09:28:46 AM
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on September 04, 2020, 01:40:41 AM

Voter fraud is statistically not a thing.  Even the GOP cannot find it.  They investigate claims about "millions of illegal votes" (which gets a lot of press attention) and they find hardly any (which doesn't get attention).  It's a joke. 



You don't actually expect these guys to listen to facts, do you? I mean after all, they have their own beliefs, conspiracies & whatever else they prefer to use to get through their day confirmed by their one & only grabber & savior.  :lol:
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Post by: MoparMike68 on September 04, 2020, 08:00:32 PM
Quote from: Old Moparz on September 04, 2020, 09:28:46 AM
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on September 04, 2020, 01:40:41 AM

Voter fraud is statistically not a thing.  Even the GOP cannot find it.  They investigate claims about "millions of illegal votes" (which gets a lot of press attention) and they find hardly any (which doesn't get attention).  It's a joke. 



You don't actually expect these guys to listen to facts, do you? I mean after all, they have their own beliefs, conspiracies & whatever else they prefer to use to get through their day confirmed by their one & only grabber & savior.  :lol:
Here's some facts for you voter fraud is real, in my area the states NJ, PA, both had cases that were prosecuted
In fact a new local election was ordered in NJ after mail in voter fraud charges.
We had a mail carrier charged with destroying ballots locally just to name a few and I'm not surprised either wasn't reported nationally.
Let's face it we can't catch them all I'm sure many get away with it undetected or unreported.
When Romney ran against Obama there were entire districts where he didn't receive a single vote think about that
not a single vote not one.
Also do you really think the media are going to report on any of this for more then a half a minute if at all that goes against
their narrative.
Everyone wants fair elections, absentee ballots are different but sending out random ballots to everyone makes it to easy to cheat.
Democrats have a problem getting people to the polls it's no secret that's why all of this is happening.
What's the problem with voter ID? ID is required for everything else if that's to difficult show up, one person one vote
and let's not play the Covid game if one can protest in the thousands in support for mail in voting then the polls Should be just fine.


Title: Re: First lady wears SUBLIME!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Paul G on September 04, 2020, 08:27:51 PM
Quote from: MoparMike68 on September 04, 2020, 08:00:32 PM
Quote from: Old Moparz on September 04, 2020, 09:28:46 AM
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on September 04, 2020, 01:40:41 AM

Voter fraud is statistically not a thing.  Even the GOP cannot find it.  They investigate claims about "millions of illegal votes" (which gets a lot of press attention) and they find hardly any (which doesn't get attention).  It's a joke. 



You don't actually expect these guys to listen to facts, do you? I mean after all, they have their own beliefs, conspiracies & whatever else they prefer to use to get through their day confirmed by their one & only grabber & savior.  :lol:
Here's some facts for you voter fraud is real, in my area the states NJ, PA, both had cases that were prosecuted
In fact a new local election was ordered in NJ after mail in voter fraud charges.
We had a mail carrier charged with destroying ballots locally just to name a few and I'm not surprised either wasn't reported nationally.
Let's face it we can't catch them all I'm sure many get away with it undetected or unreported.
When Romney ran against Obama there were entire districts where he didn't receive a single vote think about that
not a single vote not one.
Also do you really think the media are going to report on any of this for more then a half a minute if at all that goes against
their narrative.
Everyone wants fair elections, absentee ballots are different but sending out random ballots to everyone makes it to easy to cheat.
Democrats have a problem getting people to the polls it's no secret that's why all of this is happening.
What's the problem with voter ID? ID is required for everything else if that's to difficult show up, one person one vote
and let's not play the Covid game if one can protest in the thousands in support for mail in voting then the polls Should be just fine.




I agree with this. Why would anyone not want to verify the person voting is that person? The only reason to be against voter ID is if you are doing something under handed.
Title: Re: First lady wears SUBLIME!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: JB400 on September 04, 2020, 09:20:10 PM
Back to the first lady

Title: Re: First lady wears SUBLIME!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Mike DC on September 04, 2020, 09:32:24 PM
QuoteHere's some facts for you voter fraud is real . . .
"Election fraud" and "voter fraud" are two different things.  I was saying VF is an exaggerated threat.  It statistically doesn't happen much.

Election fraud is a real threat.  The Diebold corp (electronic voting machines) was found to have improper ties/allegiance to the GOP in the 2000s.  As you said, Romney didn't get votes in whole districts.  Al Gore's win in 2000 was basically stolen by the judicial branch (along with many other "irregularities" in that election).  Hundreds of thousands of racial minorities get their names purged from voter rolls because they sound redundant (fathers & sons having the same names, ethnic communities having few variations in names, etc.)  These purges are not innocent mistakes, they are calculated moves to skew elections.  There is crooked shit on both sides and in the party primaries too.  

What DOESN'T happen, is that illegal immigrants don't cast millions of votes.  Tons of people don't cast votes multiple times.  Etc.  You cannot just make up a fake name and fill out a ballot and get a vote counted.  It stopped being that simple generations ago.   Investigations into this stuff hardly ever find anything.      


Quote
What's the problem with voter ID? ID is required for everything else if that's to difficult show up, one person one vote  
I don't object to that.  IMO it's a reasonable rule.  

But let's keep it real - it's a reasonable rule being pushed to help skew elections.  There isn't a serious need for it.  It's just a smart tactical move by one side.   IMO the other side should let them have it and pick some other battle.    


Quoteand let's not play the Covid game if one can protest in the thousands in support for mail in voting then the polls Should be just fine.

Not every blue-voting person an America marched in protests this summer.  Those were disproportionately young people.  Voters are disproportionately older.

There is no significant difference between "absentee" voting and "mail-in" voting.    

Title: Re: First lady wears SUBLIME!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: chargered on September 05, 2020, 02:24:23 AM
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on September 04, 2020, 09:32:24 PM
QuoteHere's some facts for you voter fraud is real . . .
"Election fraud" and "voter fraud" are two different things.  I was saying VF is an exaggerated threat.  It statistically doesn't happen much.

Election fraud is a real threat.  The Diebold corp (electronic voting machines) was found to have improper ties/allegiance to the GOP in the 2000s.  As you said, Romney didn't get votes in whole districts.  Al Gore's win in 2000 was basically stolen by the judicial branch (along with many other "irregularities" in that election).  Hundreds of thousands of racial minorities get their names purged from voter rolls because they sound redundant (fathers & sons having the same names, ethnic communities having few variations in names, etc.)  These purges are not innocent mistakes, they are calculated moves to skew elections.  There is crooked shit on both sides and in the party primaries too.  

What DOESN'T happen, is that illegal immigrants don't cast millions of votes.  Tons of people don't cast votes multiple times.  Etc.  You cannot just make up a fake name and fill out a ballot and get a vote counted.  It stopped being that simple generations ago.   Investigations into this stuff hardly ever find anything.      


Quote
What's the problem with voter ID? ID is required for everything else if that's to difficult show up, one person one vote  
I don't object to that.  IMO it's a reasonable rule.  

But let's keep it real - it's a reasonable rule being pushed to help skew elections.  There isn't a serious need for it.  It's just a smart tactical move by one side.   IMO the other side should let them have it and pick some other battle.    


Quoteand let's not play the Covid game if one can protest in the thousands in support for mail in voting then the polls Should be just fine.

Not every blue-voting person an America marched in protests this summer.  Those were disproportionately young people.  Voters are disproportionately older.

There is no significant difference between "absentee" voting and "mail-in" voting.    

There is a huge difference between "absentee" voting and "mail-in" voting.  Absentee voting you have to request a ballot and you are now on record as having voted and received a ballot.  Its closely monitored and they know who voted.  Sending out millions of ballots to addresses not knowing who really lives there is very different.  The person who lives there may have just moved in and will receive a un-solicited ballot, then vote, then be able to go vote again.  Or they will be able to vote for their kids who are away at college, the same young kid who probably wouldn't have taken the time to vote.  Just a couple of many examples of what will happen.  Mail in voting will be fraught with fraud.
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Post by: Mike DC on September 05, 2020, 06:28:03 AM
QuoteThere is a huge difference between "absentee" voting and "mail-in" voting.  Absentee voting you have to request a ballot and you are now on record as having voted and received a ballot.  Its closely monitored and they know who voted.  Sending out millions of ballots to addresses not knowing who really lives there is very different.

Colorado, Hawaii, Oregon, Washington and Utah have already been doing almost all their voting by mail for years.  Mitt Romney (Utah) dismissed Trump's claims about mail-in voter fraud a few weeks ago.  Those states all have no evidence of widespread fraud.  It statistically isn't a threat.  IIRC this is the Department of Homeland Security's opinion too.  


QuoteThe person who lives there may have just moved in and will receive a un-solicited ballot, then vote, then be able to go vote again.  Or they will be able to vote for their kids who are away at college, the same young kid who probably wouldn't have taken the time to vote.  Just a couple of many examples of what will happen.  Mail in voting will be fraught with fraud.

It's not a question of whether mail-ins will cause fraud.  The question is whether it causes worse fraud & problems than other methods.  The systems are all prone to fraud in one way or another.  

Look at voting in person:   Talk to the hundreds of thousands of people who get their names purged from voter rolls with no practical recourse.  Or people who have no polling place close to home (strategic decision by the other party) or whose polling place is (strategically) under-funded so they spend hours waiting in line, etc.  Or even just people who cannot take time off work during the polling hours.  Making it more difficult for certain people to vote is a form of election fraud too - that is the Supreme Court's opinion.    


There are 200 million eligible voters and 50 different state systems.  There WILL BE fraud in November, you can bet your house on it.  But finding a few dozen cases of mail-in fraud does not prove it's an unprecedented threat.  

Electronic voting machines pose a much, MUCH bigger threat.  IMO it's ridiculous that those things were ever allowed in the first place.

Title: Re: First lady wears SUBLIME!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: greycharger on September 05, 2020, 09:08:19 AM
The first year my State instituted Voter ID, people from Texas came to the largest city, pulled out the phone book and called Native sounding names to tell them that LEO's would be watching the polls to arrest people for outstanding warrants and such. THEY believed and proved Voter ID could be used to a racist end, so why doubt them?
Those suffering White Privilege will marvel at someone not knowing if they have legal papers in their name, but when you are very poor or Native, you keep a low profile in this utterly racist and authoritarian State. One might be sure they have no warrants, but voting is not worth the risk, especially when there are no candidates other than Republican. The local newspaper (second largest in State) has yet to write anything about the one Democrat running this year.

trump is pulling the same stunt saying he will call out law enforcement to watch the polls. putin is a good remote learning instructor.

Voter ID is a Poll Tax that cost me nearly $200 to get my last driver's license. To someone who started SSI twenty years ago or is living on the Res, that's a lot of money. We shouldn't have to choose between meds, food, or voting.

For those who can afford it, Fedex Envelopes are $8.50, delivered in 3 days and tracking is provided. For those using the mail, you can add a stamp and that makes it 1st class, but the attacks on the USPS grow worse every day, so that venue is iffy.
Title: Re: First lady wears SUBLIME!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Lennard on September 05, 2020, 11:43:21 AM
Where's Troy when you need him?!

"THIS IS NOT A PLACE TO DISCUSS POLITICS OR RELIGION."
Title: Re: First lady wears SUBLIME!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: RallyeMike on September 05, 2020, 11:47:04 AM
QuoteThe first year my State instituted Voter ID, people from Texas came to the largest city, pulled out the phone book and called Native sounding names to tell them that LEO's would be watching the polls to arrest people for outstanding warrants and such. THEY believed and proved Voter ID could be used to a racist end, so why doubt them?
Those suffering White Privilege will marvel at someone not knowing if they have legal papers in their name, but when you are very poor or Native, you keep a low profile in this utterly racist and authoritarian State. One might be sure they have no warrants, but voting is not worth the risk, especially when there are no candidates other than Republican. The local newspaper (second largest in State) has yet to write anything about the one Democrat running this year.

trump is pulling the same stunt saying he will call out law enforcement to watch the polls. putin is a good remote learning instructor.

Voter ID is a Poll Tax that cost me nearly $200 to get my last driver's license. To someone who started SSI twenty years ago or is living on the Res, that's a lot of money. We shouldn't have to choose between meds, food, or voting.

For those who can afford it, Fedex Envelopes are $8.50, delivered in 3 days and tracking is provided. For those using the mail, you can add a stamp and that makes it 1st class, but the attacks on the USPS grow worse every day, so that venue is iffy.

Well then, as we have all been advised, vote twice. You'll cut your cost per vote in half and resolve election fraud at the same time.
Title: Re: First lady wears SUBLIME!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: MoparMike68 on September 05, 2020, 01:16:59 PM
Quote from: Lennard on September 05, 2020, 11:43:21 AM
Where's Troy when you need him?!

"THIS IS NOT A PLACE TO DISCUSS POLITICS OR RELIGION."
He's been very tolerant lately  :scratchchin: But I think soon he'll come back with a vengeance and shut this shit down  :lol:
Title: Re: First lady wears SUBLIME!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: John_Kunkel on September 05, 2020, 02:05:06 PM
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on September 04, 2020, 09:32:24 PM


Election fraud is a real threat.  The Diebold corp (electronic voting machines) was found to have improper ties/allegiance to the GOP in the 2000s.

Ooooooh, sweep that under the carpet.
Title: Re: First lady wears SUBLIME!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: gtx6970 on September 05, 2020, 03:13:48 PM
Quote from: JB400 on September 04, 2020, 09:20:10 PM
Back to the first lady



Agreed

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She looks good in TX9 Black as well
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Title: Re: First lady wears SUBLIME!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: MoparMike68 on September 05, 2020, 05:16:16 PM
She looks Amazing I'm very proud to have such a beautiful First Lady once again since Jackie O  :icon_smile_big:
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Post by: Paul G on September 05, 2020, 07:25:14 PM
Has there ever been a more attractive first lady than Mrs. Trump? Jackie is a close second.