Well, the Superbird was delivered this morning from Alaska. I absolutely love this car.
Tom kept preparing me for the car not being perfect. Well, he's wrong...in my eyes it is perfect. It has just enough roughness around the edges to make it a true driver in my eyes. I had been thinking all along that I would take up where Tom left off and continue the disassembly and then restore the car back to perfection. That's not gonna happen.
My new plan is to block it, seal it, throw some fresh black paint on it and drive it...a lot.
I drove it home from the drop off point this morning and it drives great. Much better than I had expected.
The only resto work for me other than the paint will be to recover the seats, put new carpet on the console, move the battery from the trunk to the engine bay and a few other odds and ends. There is just no way that I'm going to tear this car down. I want to be driving it and showing it as soon as possible.
As soon as the Daytona clone is together, this car is going into the booth. ;D
That thing looks bad ASS! :2thumbs:
Perfect daily driver! ;)
More pics!
Tom jacked the torsion bars up in the front and the air shocks in the back so that it would clear everything while being loaded. Looks kind of cool that way. The car has to be lowered back where it belongs even though the car is in Arkansas. We have paved roads now. ;D
It's trip started in Ketchikan, shipped to Seattle and then transported here to western Arkansas. I was relieved that there was no damage done to the car. Tom removed the wing, wrapped it up nicely and placed it inside the car. Even with the wing removed, the truck driver said that the car drew a crowd everywhere he stopped.
Here's a pic of the car in the container in Alaska and then a couple of pics of the car sitting in front of my shop.
Awesome...I'd be pumped to have that thing come out of a container just for me :D I thought it was painted though? :shruggy:
VERY Happy for you LARRY!!!!! :2thumbs:
i always wondered how they tied it down inside the container?? or do they just expect it to sit still as long as noone tilts the container or the ship doesn't have rough seas?? i saw a video once of a container ship losing several hundred containers right off the deck into the ocean, always wondered what was in those containers............................
Very Cool ! :2thumbs:
Very cool deal! I would still be jumping up and down! (http://bestsmileys.com/bouncing/4.gif)
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Quote from: 69bronzeT5 on November 27, 2009, 12:46:10 PM
Awesome...I'd be pumped to have that thing come out of a container just for me :D I thought it was painted though? :shruggy:
The story starts when Tom had just started the process of restoring the car to sell. I stepped in and asked for a deal on the car "as is" with no further work. After the deal was made, Tom then on his own decided to go ahead and finish up some of the work that he had started so that the car wouldn't have bare metal showing while in transit. Tom also located the original bucket seats and Dana 60 and reunited them with the car before shipping it to me. There aren't many people in this world like Tom Ferry.
I have never intended to buy a bird that was not in need of at least some resto. I don't like driving cars that someone else has painted. It's a painter thing. This car is in much, much better shape than many of the resto projects that I've looked at over the last couple of years that were priced in the same area as this car. And, this one is running and driving.
It's an original 440 car but has a six pack on it now. The custom air grabber hood is just the kind of thing that I would have done to the car.
Now if someone gives me grief, I can just say that I bought it this way. ;D
Tom also sent me the stock hood that he had made for the car. There was a thread on here about him making the hood. I'll keep it in case I ever decide to drive it in it's stock appearance form. I already have a set of rallyes so I might do that at some point just for fun.
It's sunny and warm here today so the wife and I have been out tinkering with the car. Can't wait to start driving it to the cruise nights.
Awesome Larry! I remember the last time I had a charger shipped up here from Seattle. Funny part was when I asked where is my car, they said, most likely where those 10 to 15 people are standing, ha-ha. Couldn't see the car at all, and yep, there it was.
What a great feeling that was seeing a car for the first time ever.
Enjoy your new ride. :2thumbs:
Mark
Congrats car looks good :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
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I have been following your threads. I'm glad you finally got it. It is nice to here stories where someone got what was promised or better than expected :2thumbs:
I hope that Mark and Allen are as happy with the cars that they're buying from me as I am with the Superbird. Mark's Cuda is leaving here tomorrow, headed to the northwest and Allen's car will be ready for him in a few weeks. It was difficult giving up two of my favorite cars to get the bird, but it was worth it.
Congrats ! on your new arrival. and I am just like a kid on Christmas waiting for mine to get home. I know how you feel parting with her, I feel the same about my 68 headed for Australia soon. :2thumbs:
nice bird
Quote from: hotrod98 on November 27, 2009, 03:12:18 PM
I hope that Mark and Allen are as happy with the cars that they're buying from me as I am with the Superbird. Mark's Cuda is leaving here tomorrow, headed to the northwest and Allen's car will be ready for him in a few weeks. It was difficult giving up two of my favorite cars to get the bird, but it was worth it.
You're selling your other 'cuda too? What are the odds that they're both coming up here too? ;)
Quote from: 41husk on November 27, 2009, 03:39:52 PM
I know how you feel parting with her, I feel the same about my 68 headed for Australia soon. :2thumbs:
So it sold? G-Man buy it?
Oops. I meant Mike. :icon_smile_big: Forgive, me. I'm a little excited right now.
The transport guys postponed picking your car up until Saturday. They said that they had problems with people not being home on Thanksgiving day and not being able to pick cars up. I wonder why? I guess we have to go by their rules, which seem to change each day. Sounds like a few women that I know.
The other 71 cuda is safe and sound on the top level of the four post lift...for now. Since I've decided not to do a total resto on the bird, I might accidentally find time to restore the other 71 next year.
I quoted this from one of our emails. It figures that it was my guy.
"To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if the drivers' miss any of their scheduled pick up/delivery times."
I want to say Larry roper is a man of his word, I have ben around for a while and I had no prolems what soever with the transaction, he is number one in my book! and I hope to meet him someday ata wingar meet I AM GOIN G TO START ANOTHER ONE CALLED SCARLET RE D AND IS GONNA BITCHIN lARRY ISA GREAT GUY HONEST AS HELL AND i CAN;T WAIT TO SE TE PROGRESS PICS GOOD NITE ALL AM READY T ASS OUT KEYS ARE GETTIN BLURRI.>..
Yes G-man has bought my 68, I hope he is as excited about owning my Charger as I am purchasing Larry's Daytona :2thumbs:
Quote from: 41husk on November 28, 2009, 11:13:47 AM
Yes G-man has bought my 68, I hope he is as excited about owning my Charger as I am purchasing Larry's Daytona :2thumbs:
You're welcome.
Quote from: 472 R/T SE on November 27, 2009, 08:01:30 PM
I quoted this from one of our emails. It figures that it was my guy.
"To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if the drivers' miss any of their scheduled pick up/delivery times."
I haven't decided if my guy was one day late or four days early. Depends on which instructions you go by. ;D
I don't care though. All I know is I have a Superbird now.
Quote from: hotrod98 on November 27, 2009, 12:31:42 PM
Tom jacked the torsion bars up in the front and the air shocks in the back so that it would clear everything while being loaded. Looks kind of cool that way. The car has to be lowered back where it belongs even though the car is in Arkansas. We have paved roads now. ;D
As a fellow Arkansan and card carrying Redneck I resemble that remark, them paved roads is why these kids cant drive anymore. Nothing teaches driving skill like bombing down a dirt road at triple digit speeds in a 68 R/T with a jacked up a$$ end, wore out suspension and little or no brakes, not that I ever did that in the mid 80's :angel:
Sweet ride, glad you got it. Next time I'm in your neck of the woods I'd like a tour of your shop if you have time. BTW, kept the 'Bird, me an my brother pulled interior apart and found part of the buildsheet, along with fragments of someone else's fendertag, can't read the whole number but its obviously off a charger. Gonna keep taking her apart.
LL
Quote from: mauve66 on November 27, 2009, 12:50:59 PM
i always wondered how they tied it down inside the container?? or do they just expect it to sit still as long as noone tilts the container or the ship doesn't have rough seas?? i saw a video once of a container ship losing several hundred containers right off the deck into the ocean, always wondered what was in those containers............................
I TOLD THE BARGE LINE TO PUT THE CONTAINER IN THE BOWLES OF THE BARGE. AND WHEN I DROVE IT INTO THE BARGE THEY ALREADY HAD THE FRONTTIRES BLOCKED UP THEN ATTACHED 2X4'S TO THE BACK AND SIDES THEY JUST ATTACH THEM WITH SCREWS, THEN i TIED DOWN THE STOCK HOOD TO THE WALLS WITH SOME BIG STRAPS SO IT WASN'T GOING NOWHERE i TOOK 2 IN TAPE AND WROTE OUT INSTRUCTIONS FOR OPERATION A THIRD GRADER COULD UNDERSTAND. i AM SO HAPPY LARRY AND WIFE GOT THIS CAR. i KNOW HE WILL HAVE IT ON ROAD LICKITY SPLIT. i CAN HARDLY WAIT TO SEE PICS OF IT AT VARIOUS MEETS.
THEYRE GONNA HAVE A BLAST WITH THE CAR.
Unfortunately, I haven't been able to even touch the car in the last two days. My mother-in-law is back in the hospital which has meant three hour round trips each day to visit her. I want to go ahead and install the new clutch so that I can drive it around some before it gets real cold. May not happen any time soon.
I just opened a package from Larry last night and was just in shock at what he sent me!. He sent me a beautiful pair of superbird daytona trunk wing supports that he made. And He sent me two brand new Sata paint guns . 1 was a satajet 3000 digital. Wow . I want to say that the deal with Larry was smooth and honest all the way through. He got what he wanted and so did I , We are two mutually happy people with the superbird deal.
Anyone who deals with Larry can be assured that this is an honest man, a man who dosen't call back when a deal is struck to try to chizel you down. A man who does exactly what he says he is going to do. I have dealt with some of the richest people in this country with painting their cars and jets when I lived in Los Angeles . IT seemed the more money they had the chintzier they were and the bigger jerks they were.I only once besides getting this surprise from Larry got a tip from someone ,and that was 900 dollars for painting a t-28 trojan for a great gentleman Captain Tom Neil. He appreciated the extra effort I put into his restoration.
Thanks again Larry I am going to use the guns tomorrow! :cheers:
Thanks for the kind words.
Tom deserved the gifts. He went to a lot of trouble to make the car an even better deal for me even after the deal was struck.
I'll elaborate more later.
This has been a bad week for Sandra and me. My mother-in-law lost her battle with COPD on Monday of this week. The great joy of finally getting a Superbird has been tempered by this tragic loss. My mother-in-law was a very special person and would be one of the first people to say that life goes on. It will, but it won't be the same without her. Just last week, I told her that I had bought the Superbird so that Sandra and I could enjoy traveling in it together and even though she was always quite frugal, she somehow sensed the importance I placed in buying what she would normally consider an un-needed extravagance. She said that she totally understood and that we should enjoy every day to the fullest. We always do.
Sorry to hear that Larry. :-\
I hope Sandra's doing OK. No time of the year is better than another but this is a crappy time.
Prayers & thoughts for you & Sandra, family.
sending my sympathy to you for the loss of your MIL. I lost my dad to COPD 10 yrs ago.
Glad you have your car and everything arrived safely.
Sherri
Sorry to hear about the loss of family. Will say a prayer for ya too. It's been good reading about your anticipation and that both you and Tom have been two happy guys with the deal.
Larry, once again congrats on the car. Sorry for your loss. My grandpa passed on Christmas day as presents were being opened in 1986. Sisters still have issues on that day, myself, I hate getting gifts period. IMO, its for my kids now vs. us older folks. ha, I'm 42, yet I still feel 26.
Best wishes to you and family
sorry to hear larry , our prayers are with you and sandra .
Sorry for your loss Larry. My families thoughts and prayers are with you. Allen
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May God continue to bless your Mother-in-law and look over you, Sandra and all your family...........
Troy
oh crikey , sorry to hear about your motherin law Larry , so sad , right on top for christmas as well !! , not saying there is a good time , but just when the familys are togeather ! :rotz:
I'm very sorry to hear that Larry. My thoughts are with you guys. This past summer I told my grandma (dad's mom) who was very sick in the hospital that I was taking my Duster to a car show. She told me good luck and hope you win. I ended up winning and she was really happy for me.....5 days later she was gone. :'(
Very sorry to hear about your M-I-L, that's never a fun time to go through. Hope Sandra is dealing with everything OK, as it sounds like they were close.
Sorry for your loss Larry. My thoughts are with you and Sandra
Ken
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,64509.0.html
Sorry for your loss.
Thanks for all of the kind words. We held a memorial for her this morning. The place was filled with family and friends. She will be sorely missed. As she so often said..." life will go on".
472 RT/SE Thanks for getting me in contact with Allen.
Allen, I think I am more excited than you about that daytona :icon_smile_big:
Im starting to have dreams with me driving the 68 I wake up and realise "damn it, it wasnt real!"
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Nice daytona :cheers:
O yeah... why do Charger Daytona fronts look so weird compare to the superbird fronts... isnt it the same thing? So why make it not look as styled... :scratchchin:
O yeah... why do Charger Daytona fronts look so weird compare to the superbird fronts... isnt it the same thing? So why make it not look as styled...
Good question...They're not the same, but I think they both look pretty good.
I promised myself that I wouldn't buy any more cars after buying my Superbird, but I couldn't resist.
I've been trying to buy this car for years. It's a very solid, real sassy grass green 71 Barracuda 318, column shift. A friend of mine was slowly transforming it into a bracket car. I'll complete the transformation and take it to the track occasionally. It now has a very stout 360 with aluminum heads, TTI exhaust system, beefed up 8 3/4, super stock springs and disc brakes all around.
Should be fun to drive. My wife said that I have to finish the Daytona clone and finish freshening the Superbird up before I can do anything to the Barracuda.
not fair, i call foul, now return it and donate to the mauve66 motor fund...................................
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Here's another pic.
Sandra's overseeing the entire project to make sure we load it correctly. She claims all cars that I buy. Works for me. I still get to drive them...occasionally.
At least it wasn't snowing here on Saturday when we picked it up. Was a little chilly though.
I already had a six pack hood that I plan to put on it as well as a few other nice barracuda parts lying around.
i hope you don't have fun, dammit
It would be more fun if we lived in Vegas. We didn't make it out this year. Spent too much money buying a certain Superbird. ;D
I think I love Sandra! Sandra make sure he doesn't play with the Plymouths until the Daytona clone is finished :cheers:
Lucky you. I worked on it all day Friday. Hope to work on it again tomorrow. It's cold here, even with both 30' radiant heaters going full blast.
I thought this was the warm, sunny south. :brickwall:
I'm digging that Barracuda.....looks SO sweet with the TT's :2thumbs:
This car has a petina to it. I'm tired of driving show ponies. This one is actually fun to drive and I don't worry about the folks dinging the side of it when I go to Wal-Mart. ;D
Time for a little update since the weather's getting a little nicer. The builders have started on my new shop addition so I can't get Allen's Daytona into the booth for a few more days. So, I decided to start sanding on the Black Ice Superbird. For the most part the car is pretty straight. I need to rework one small area on the right quarter.
I'm thinking that the fog machine that the band used to carry around in the trunk might have slid over and bumped the right quarter from the inside a little. Just a guess... :D
I plan to re-prime the right quarter and then block the entire car one more time. I'll use NCS black PPG sealer, three coats of black PPG DBC and then three coats of 2021 clear. I have a guy that's been working for me that is great at wet sanding and buffing so he gets the job.
I received the new interior pieces from Dante's last week so as soon as the trim shop gets an opening I'll drop the seats off. I ordered black vinyl covers with silver welting (piping?). I also located a non-console pistol grip shifter handle so I'll remove the console and console style shifter, replace the carpet with new black carpet from ACC and install the non-console shifter handle. This is what the buildsheet shows that the car should have had and I like the non console look. I ordered a new package tray, seat divider and trunk mat. The door panels look pretty decent and I'll re-install them for now. Might replace them later.
I had the rear bumper rechromed and my son has already replaced the clutch. I've driven the car some around here close to home and so far it runs and drives great. I love the sound of the exhaust but it's a little tired and needs to be replaced. I'll try to get that done later. In fact, I'm thinking about going with a full TTI exhaust. I love the 3" TTI exhaust system on my 71 Barracuda.
I'm very glad that I bought this car. No regrets. It is obvious that it's a west Texas/southern California car. While Tom had it in Alaska he kept it stored inside most of the time and drove it in the snow very little and it shows.
I won't paint it until after Allens Daytona clone is painted. According to my builders, I'll be able to get back into the shop in a few days. We'll see. Updates to follow. I have to get these two wing cars completed...soon.
Looking good Larry. I hope to start on the red car tomorrow. For me, just getting it turned around will be a job.
I don't remember, are you keeping those wheels staying with the Black Ice theme?
Yes, the wheels are staying. I don't want to change the look of the car. I'll stick to updating a few worn items and leave it at that. Maybe after I've owned it for a while, I'll start making some changes. Maybe not. Next year, I may run the car with rallyes and the flat hood just for grins. I do plan to convert the 4-speed to an o/d 3-speed with the Passon cluster kit. They've been out of them all winter long for some reason.
I have no plans to ever restore the car back to original.
I'll leave that to the next owner/caretaker.
Tom, I was just thinking about that outie in the right quarter. There were a lot of parts stored in the trunk when it was on the ship. It's a definite possiblilty that it could have happened on the trip from Ketchikan to Seattle.
No biggie. I blocked it out and I'll just re-prime and block again. I truly appreciate all of the hard work that you put into it before you shipped it. Saved me a lot of time and trouble.
yeah hey its not perfect but I just wanted you to be happy and not have to do hours of bodywork . it really is a nice bird as far as rust. I have seen em with the whole plug and rear drip rails rusted out this one is solid as a rock, wait till you take out the carpet the floor is perfect probably not a speck of rust. also the headlight buckets just had surface rust where lots of them the bottoms have heavy pitting or are rotted out completely. Did you unpack the flat hood yet? I want your opinion on the job I did on it.
Boy I can hardly wait to see it done and you guys taking it to your first cruise in. It definetly went to the right people , did you get the bucket seat buttons I sent? I will keep looking for anything I might have forgot. I think I found a local guy who might buy the purple runner, he bought a 69 ss 396 chevelle in eastern washington that turned out to be a el-fako and wants a true muscle car. I am glad to see your adding onto the shop. I hope to visit someday and check it out
when or if you ever change the valve covers I really want to know what kind of adjustable rockers were put on the engine, I lost the build up paperwork. but know that supposedly all the parts were top notch , the heads were supposedly ported and polished all internal bolts are the best quality and motor was balanced. I truly have always believed that it needs headders and a good flowing exhaust to reallly unkork the power. It just wants to go faster and faster. The motor was built at bills speed shop on aurora avenue in Lynwood Wa just north of seattle. Now this was done about 1992 as the Original build I messed up when I foolishly thought I was a mechanic and installed a purple cam without changing the lifters and the lifters were slowly chewed up, I know it was boared .030 over and theirs trw pistons, Take care and keep the pics coming!
As for the engine, all I know is it starts easy and runs great. I'll let you know when I pull the valve covers. I almost hate to since this is one of the only mopars that I own that has no leaks whatsoever.
I'll take some pics of the floor when I pull the carpet.
I put the car up on a lift when I first got it. I couldn't find any rust anywhere. I'm surprised that this car has the heavy undercoating on it since it started out as a west Texas car. I thought that the heavy undercoating was for the rust belt areas. The undercoating all looks factory applied to me. Of course, it looks kind of nasty and dirty but I'll take that over rust any day of the week.
Gotta get back out and start sanding on the bird.
Just one more letter and Ill leave you alone to block sand. Ill bet the build sheet might show factory undercoating. It is factory for sure and probably helped a great deal through the years. all you have to do to plus it up is steam clean it with a soapy wash with some degreaser too and I really like the duplicolor black bedliner coating. they sell it in gallons with a application gun I put it on the paint shaker and add about 7% real lacquer thinner. it then sprays on very nice and dries real good. I use it all the time at the shop. it will make the bottom look brand new. Hey don't pull the valve covers on my account.
The mopar polished aluminum valve covers on it now I accidently messed up when I used that super clean stuff on it. I had no idea how strong it was and it totally etched the aluminum ,but with a small polisher setup on a drill those covers will polish up real nice. have a great day!
Okay...Allen's Daytona has left the building and it's time to get back on the Black Ice Superbird. I had the seats recovered last week and they turned out great. I removed the console and console shifter and installed the correct shifter handle. I ordered the correct shifter boot from Brewer's and I also bought a new carpet set from ACC. I'm going to re-use the original door trim panels since they don't look too bad.
I will be block sanding the car this week and hope to paint the car by the middle of next week. I would paint it this coming weekend but my son and I are taking both of our racecars out to the dragstrip for a little test and tune.
I drove up to Tulsa this last weekend and bought Howie's 1980 Dodge crew cab dually. It was a one owner, 75,000 mile truck that he bought last year. I only mentioned to Howie that I wanted it every other phone call. I didn't want to bug him too much about it. This truck will be a nice hauler for my cuda drag car. Reminds me of the crew cab dually that I used to haul my ex-top fueler around with back in the early 80's. I might even use it to haul the Superbird around on those rare occasions that I don't drive it.
Very cool truck Larry. Should fit the bill nicely.
Great looking truck, what does it have for power?
It needs to be black with an airgrabber :lol:
Quote from: Aero426 on April 05, 2010, 10:34:14 AM
Great looking truck, what does it have for power?
It still has the original 360 four barrel, but the original owner installed an aluminum intake, holley carb and headers.
I have a complete 440 drivetrain that I plan to install in it. I kind of hate to remove the original 360 but Howie wants it back to go in a 74 Dodge Charger that I sold him a couple of years ago. We tend to trade and sell a lot of stuff back and forth.
I have every piece of paperwork for this truck from the day that it was bought new. I even have the build sheet, owner's manual, and the original factory brochure.
Quote from: superbirdtom on April 05, 2010, 11:07:33 AM
It needs to be black with an airgrabber :lol:
I've thought about doing something like that but the truck is a rare color combo as it is and I only need to do a little touch up to make it nice. I may paint the new cuda drag car white to kind of match the truck.
Quote from: hotrod98 on April 05, 2010, 12:44:54 PM
Quote from: Aero426 on April 05, 2010, 10:34:14 AM
Great looking truck, what does it have for power?
It still has the original 360 four barrel, but the original owner installed an aluminum intake, holley carb and headers.
I have a complete 440 drivetrain that I plan to install in it. I kind of hate to remove the original 360 but Howie wants it back to go in a 74 Dodge Charger that I sold him a couple of years ago. We tend to trade and sell a lot of stuff back and forth.
I have every piece of paperwork for this truck from the day that it was bought new. I even have the build sheet, owner's manual, and the original factory brochure.
Quote from: superbirdtom on April 05, 2010, 11:07:33 AM
It needs to be black with an airgrabber :lol:
I've thought about doing something like that but the truck is a rare color combo as it is and I only need to do a little touch up to make it nice. I may paint the new cuda drag car white to kind of match the truck.
Man, that is a shame.. You can't find another 360 to give him or does he HAVE to have that 360?
Troy
I have several engines sitting around in storage. I might have a nice 318. The Charger had a 318 in it to begin with.
It would be a shame to remove the original engine and not hold onto it.
I've moved the bird into the back shop to get started on it. We removed the hood and deck lid. I've already removed all of the other trim so I'm ready to get down to business. I'm welding up the holes where the six pack emblems were on the hood. One of the emblems is broken and I really don't care for having a Dodge nameplate on a Plymouth anyway. I also plan to remove the original spoiler that was damaged several years ago and install the spoiler that Mike Goyette built for my Superbird clone. I'll place the original spoiler in storage. The only other thing that I've done body-wise is to have the rear bumper re-plated. It wasn't terrible but the new chrome really does stand out.
I should have the car ready to shoot in the next few days. I have a show here locally that I want to enter the car in so I have to have it completed by the 24th. That shouldn't be a problem. I hope to have the body panels and trim painted and assembled by the 16th and then I can start re-installing the interior. The interior usually takes less than two days. We may be able to do it in one day since I won't be re-installing the console which makes installing the carpet much easier and I'm re-using the original door trims. Less prep time there.
I can always put off doing the engine stuff until after the show. The engine runs great just the way that it is but I need to replace the hoses, belts, plug wires, etc. and do a general clean up under the hood. At some point, I would love to order a new TTI exhaust. The exhaust that's on it sounds great but it's showing some age.
Sandra and I are getting very excited about getting the bird back on the road.
Lookin good!!!
If your not putting the console back in and you have a consle wring harness the one from the console acrooss the floor to the kick panel and then over to the fuse box the birdible needs one badly . :icon_smile_big:
glad your getting her done .
I have one spot left for a road runner to do parade lap at kansas speedway May 2nd . I can get you tickets to both the indy car race saturday 1st and the nascar truck race sunday the 2nd if your game . Parade lap the 2nd only .
This car didn't have that harness. Tom made one up using parts and pieces back when he put the console in. I'm going to alter it and make some underdash courtesy lights.
I may have the short harness with the console lights around here somewhere. I would have to look. You could make up the long harness from scratch since no one sees it anyway.
Quote from: hotrod98 on April 08, 2010, 02:33:38 PM
This car didn't have that harness. Tom made one up using parts and pieces back when he put the console in. I'm going to alter it and make some underdash courtesy lights.
I may have the short harness with the console lights around here somewhere. I would have to look. You could make up the long harness from scratch since no one sees it anyway.
my short harness and lights are find , just need the long one .
Can't help with a b-body. I have a couple of e-body console harnesses, but they're entirely different.
Been priming some spots on the bird today and stripping the wing braces. Other than a washer welded to the top of two legs, you can't tell the difference btween these factory wing braces and the ones that I build. Now I can tell the guys with the birds that they are correct for their cars as well. All they have to do is modify the bracket that they weld to the floor. The Daytonas bolt down and have the extra flap. Easy alteration.
I "will" have the car painted next week. Getting more excited by the day.
I'll just slide my charger in next right :icon_smile_big:
Quote from: 66chargerkid on April 08, 2010, 11:45:32 PM
I'll just slide my charger in next right :icon_smile_big:
There are four of us working at the shop now and we still can't catch up. I've been letting them do most of the work with me supervising. I'm officially retired from building cars for customers. I said that the Daytona clone would be the last and I plan to stick to that plan. We're starting to do a lot more collision work. It pays a whole lot better and the cars are in and out in days...not months.
I just want to work on my own cars for a couple of years. I have to start on my new 70 Barracuda drag car next. Then I plan to turn my 71 sassy grass Barracuda into a cuda clone and take it to an auction, hopefully making enough money to pay for these other builds.
At this rate, I may never get my tor-red 71 Cuda finished. ;D
this is the same car right http://www.youtube.com/user/440sixpack#p/u/14/zlivrldMMxU
Yes. There are a few more vids of the car on there as well including the snow incident. It looked like he had ran the car into the snow bank but he didn't. There was no damage. I have pics taken after they pulled it back onto the highway. After I bought it, I kidded Tom about me bringing the car down from Alaska to warmer weather and then we had the worst winter we've had in many years here in the sunny south. I'll keep my mouth shut from now on.
Update. I have the hood and deck lid ready and now all I have left to do is to block the fenders, the cowl and the tail panel. It should be in the booth by Tuesday.
We should have it buffed by Thursday and start re-assembly Friday or Sunday. That's the plan anyway. :yesnod:
This is Jim Radke's old yellow car taken about 1976-77. Is this what became the Black Ice car?
Rear view
We would have to ask tom for sure , but that is who tom bought the car from so its a good chance ? Jim owned so many wing cars ?
Jim Radke purchased this car in 1983 or later. I have the police paperwork showing that it was impounded and then sold at auction in '83. Jim then bought it from the person that bought it at the sale.
Has to be a different car.
The car is sanded and will be going into the booth in the morning. Didn't get it painted on Tuesday as planned.
We spent the week clearing out a 20x24 wood garage building and then moving it about 100 yards. We needed the space for the new building addition and the builders are anxious to get started. Priorities.
We plan to buff the car on Tuesday. I'll paint the hood and deck lid on Monday and then buff them on Wednesday. Should have plenty of time to get it ready for the show on Saturday here in Greenwood.
Looks like I won't be drag racing this weekend.
After several days spent moving a building and a mountain of dirt to make room for the shop expansion, I finally found the time to get the bird into the booth. I shot the body today and plan to shoot the hood and deck lid in the morning. Should be driving the car by Friday if all goes well.
Everyone's trying to talk me into putting the rallyes off of my runner onto the bird for the car show this weekend. I can't believe no one likes my Centerlines. I was planning to steal the Boyds off of the cuda but I think one of my kids is driving it to the show so no go on that idea.
I'll probably just put the Centerlines back on and surprise everyone.
I vote Rallyes! :cheers:
Quote from: 1HotDaytona on April 19, 2010, 08:56:13 PM
I vote Rallyes! :cheers:
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there will be 50 pof them there with rallyes.................... stay different
Let's see, it's black, then it has an air grabber hood along with no vinyl top.
There's at least a half dozen of them up here. You better stay with the Black Ice themed wheels to keep from being a belly button ride.
:sarcasmalert: ;)
Larry, car looks great, but my question is paint related. How do you like the white paper you used to mask your car vs. the blue paper? I know the paper you used is more expensive, it is here at least. Just thought I'd ask.
Also I vote Centerlines back on the Bird.
Mark
Quote from: hotrod98 on April 19, 2010, 08:02:17 PM
After several days spent moving a building and a mountain of dirt to make room for the shop expansion, I finally found the time to get the bird into the booth. I shot the body today and plan to shoot the hood and deck lid in the morning. Should be driving the car by Friday if all goes well.
Everyone's trying to talk me into putting the rallyes off of my runner onto the bird for the car show this weekend. I can't believe no one likes my Centerlines. I was planning to steal the Boyds off of the cuda but I think one of my kids is driving it to the show so no go on that idea.
I'll probably just put the Centerlines back on and surprise everyone.
looks good :coolgleamA: :2thumbs:
Quote from: moparstuart on April 19, 2010, 09:02:41 PM
Quote from: 1HotDaytona on April 19, 2010, 08:56:13 PM
I vote Rallyes! :cheers:
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yep rallyes looks great ! but i love the look of centrelines also :drool5: :shruggy: :scratchchin:
One more for the centerlines!
another vote fo center lines.
The guy that bought my paint stores from me back in the 90's now has a new paint store here. He lets me buy everything at cost and he just happens to carry the white Carbo paper. I've never had any bleed through from the urethanes with the Carbo paper so I've never seen the need to switch.
I think you guys are right about the rallyes. I really want the car to retain the Black Ice theme. Tom's been trying to get the old Enkei's back for me so that I can keep them as part of the history of the car. I'm only making a couple of changes. I'm removing the console and going back to the correct non console shifter and I removed the extra spoiler that Tom built since it drags the edge of the concrete badly every time I pull it into the garage. I'm afraid I'll damage the nose if I leave it on. I will keep the spoiler of course in case I decide to put it back on at some point.
looks great Im still trying to get the enkeis off the hick. I will tell you what I tried to do at the time was get the most futuristic rims I could find , if I get you the enkeis I think you will actually like them as they were never popular and they still look way cool. I would also keep with the centerlines just polish em up real good. its the center caps that really go with the mean look I was going for. take and post a pic of the center caps looks like from the waffen SS. > Id definetly put back on the white reflective wing decals. oh thats right i think it was good enough shape not to paint it. Im excited. you probably can't get any sleep dreaming of cruising that dethmobile.
Since it did have Black Ice Painted on the quarters at one time , several other band guys nicknamed it. heres the list.. the Icer--the Ice Bucket--the bucket--the death--the beatings machine--the mobile whorehouse--detherizer. thats about all I could think of hearing it being called . except when a little kid saw it , and said look mommy its batman!
I wanna see larry dressed as batman with the cape LOL
Tom forwarded me this I think they got some facts wrong LOL
http://www.streetlegaltv.com/forum/black-ice-1970-plymouth-superbird-restoration-4964.html
Quote from: moparstuart on April 20, 2010, 11:40:11 AM
Tom forwarded me this I think they got some facts wrong LOL
http://www.streetlegaltv.com/forum/black-ice-1970-plymouth-superbird-restoration-4964.html
Uhhhhh...yes. Oh well, I guess a little incorrect print is better than no print at all.
The Centerlines are back on the car and the car is out of the booth waiting to be buffed in the morning.
I'm not going to paint the wing and fender scoops at this point. Not enough time. I can always do that later. They still look pretty good.
Here's a sneak peak of the freshly painted body.
Note all of the dirt work around the shop. The car is sitting on part of the pad for the new addition. Been difficult working on numerous projects all at once. The hood and deck lid are in the booth, prepped for paint.
The hood and deck lid are painted along with the diamonds and the vinyl top moldings. Getting excited now. It's almost time to start assembling this bad boy.
Here's a pic of the center cap on the centerlines.
We're a drag racing family around here. So, I thought I would show you guys a pic of my grandson. We're getting him used to sitting in a junior dragster since he's only a few years away from joining us in the staging lanes. He loved it. I think he managed to turn every knob and flip every switch. He's 14 months old.
He's going to join us when we take our first ride in the Superbird this weekend. I wanted him to be a part of it so that he can grow up knowing that he was able to share that moment with his grandparents.
Pics of the ride will follow.
That's awesome!
Love the RFC sticker on it too!
Quote from: hotrod98 on April 20, 2010, 09:48:30 PM
We're a drag racing family around here. So, I thought I would show you guys a pic of my grandson. We're getting him used to sitting in a junior dragster since he's only a few years away from joining us in the staging lanes. He loved it. I think he managed to turn every knob and flip every switch. He's 14 months old.
He's going to join us when we take our first ride in the Superbird this weekend. I wanted him to be a part of it so that he can grow up knowing that he was able to share that moment with his grandparents.
Pics of the ride will follow.He can flip the aigrabber switch!
I vote fat and skinny american racing 2 piece trak stars, they would look killer with the black chrome look the centers have. just my :Twocents:
I've always enjoyed running different rims and tires on my cars from time to time. We have a cruise-in in a nearby town that we like to attend. I would love to show up with a different set of rims at each show.
I have the Centerlines of course, a set of rallyes, a set of Boyds, a set of steelies and a set of Torq Thrust D's.
I had a new set of Magnum 500's but Allen got them with his Daytona-clona.
I'll definitely have the Centerlines on the car at the wingcar gathering in Branson in June.
As for the first car show, they've increased the chance of rain on Saturday to 50%. That's not a good sign.
Quote from: hotrod98 on April 21, 2010, 01:38:15 PM
As for the first car show, they've increased the chance of rain on Saturday to 50%. That's not a good sign.
This car's been in a snowbank, and you're worried about some rain? :shruggy:
Getting the car out in the rain doesn't bother me. It's the whole being the only car there at the car show that kind of gets to me.
I was going to brieng the Daytona out for it's show debut this weekend, but it is calling for rain all weekend here as well :brickwall:
Quote from: hotrod98 on April 21, 2010, 09:48:33 PM
Getting the car out in the rain doesn't bother me. It's the whole being the only car there at the car show that kind of gets to me.
that car makes it own show where ever it goes :icon_smile_big: :icon_smile_big: :icon_smile_big:
Larry, are you taking the Bird to your local show? I just got word the show here for tommorow has been post poned :brickwall:
The rain stopped about noon today so we strapped the car seat in the back and loaded up my grandson and drove downtown. They allowed us to park right in the middle of the street on the local square. A lot of people were there just to see the bird. One of my friends said that everyone thought they had the baddest ride in town until we showed up.
The strange part is that even though finally getting to drive the Superbird was wonderful, the very fact that I was able to make that first trip with my wife and my grandson was the best part of all. I'll never forget it.
We know that our families are more important than our toys but sometimes it just hits you real hard right between the eyes.
My son has many pics on his camera. I chose not to spoil my experience by looking through a camera today.
I'll post a few pics tomorrow.
Great news Larry, congratulations on the day and I look foreward to those pictures.
Quote from: 41husk on April 25, 2010, 02:53:23 PM
Great news Larry, congratulations on the day and I look foreward to those pictures.
Thanks Allen.
I absolutely love my Superbird. It is definitely the best car that I've ever owned. I can't count your car since it wasn't finished until after it was officially yours. ;D
All day long at the show, all I could think of is how nice it would have been to have had your car sitting there with mine. Can't wait for Branson.
Pics should be up tonight.
I look foreward to parking next to Black Ice, I won't be in Branson until Thursday morning. I have not been able to drive the Daytona as much as I would like but I heve driven it more than any of my cars. I know the square I think we stopped at a little antique mall one of the days we came down to see the car ( get in you and your sons way) I simply love the car !!!! Thank You!
I have a few things more to do to the bird to make it truly roadworthy. I need to change the headlamp switch. The taillights and side markers don't work. Tom included one with the car so that made it a little easier for me. I plan to rebuild the front end, but it really drives pretty nice. I'll do a few mechanical things before really getting it out away from home.
I'm really surprised at how this car has stayed in such great shape considering it's 40 years old. The underside of the car is all original and still has it's undercoating intact. The exhaust system has seen better days but is still together and actually sounds great.
We still had my grandson's car seat in the car so we buckled him in and took him to McDonalds this morning. It's going to be difficult to go anywhere without telling the life story of the Black Ice Superbird. I've even got people following me around hoping I'll stop somewhere.
This is going to be worse than the Cudas or the wingrunner. :icon_smile_big:
Okay. Here's a few pics of the car at it's unveiling.
Here's a rundown on what I've done to the car other than paint.
I removed the damaged front spoiler and installed one that Mike Goyette at Dayclona made for me.
I also installed the correct turn signals that I bought from Doug and the new repro lenses that Mike Ross at BEA is selling. I also removed the shaded covers from the turn signal openings. They were both cracked.
I removed the six pack emblems from the hood and replaced the hood pins with newer ones.
As for the interior, I replaced the seat covers and carpet and removed the console and console shifter and replaced it with the correct non-console shifter. I also replaced the package tray. I reinstalled the original door trim panels. They still look pretty nice as did the dash pad and the rest of the interior. The headliner is very nice as well.
I need to get a few pics of the interior. Maybe tomorrow.
On the rear of the car I had the bumper rechromed. It didn't look too bad but it was showing it's age. In the trunk, I bead blasted the wing braces and repainted them and installed a new trunk lid gasket.
I will need to repaint the right front fender. It has a few fisheyes which I think was caused by trash blowing out of the headlamp right headlamp bucket due to my poor taping. The body is very straight. There are very few flaws. I didn't paint the wing since it was pretty nice and I didn't want to go through the hassle of installing the wing decals. I had enough trouble applying the ones to the 69 runner last year.
Anyway, the show was down on attendance due to the bad weather earlier in the day. We took home a top 25 trophy despite my not opening the hood or the trunk which they usually require. I didn 't have time to freshen up under the hood and I think that the car makes a better display with the hood and deck lid down. Certainly makes for better photos. I wonder how many pics were taken yesterday.
I want to thank Tom Ferry for helping me live mine and my wife's dream. He worked his tail off getting this car ready to ship to me. That's an entire other story right there. He will always be an important part of the history of this car.
I also want to thank my son, Brent, and my friend, Adam, for helping get this thing together at the last minute. I couldn't have done it without them. They are true professionals and I'm lucky to have them working here with me.
More pics to come.
Congrats Larry!... Most excellent!!! :cheers:
Allen
Looks great :2thumbs:. I'm liking the hoods I've been seeing on the Birds.
Looks great Larry! Glad yor wife got to get out in it too.
It looks great!!!
We didn't have time to paint the front spoiler. I think it'll look much better black. I'm also thinking about putting flat black Plymouth decals on the quarters and possibly put the flat black Superbird stripes on the back edge of the deck lid.
I have an NOS right hand mirror and would like to find either an NOS left mirror or a really nice original. I also need to locate an original antenna.
I'm going to attempt to use as many oem parts on the car as possible and try to stay away from repro items.
I want to personalize the car some but keep the Black Ice look as much as possible.
I had david make that super bird deck lid stripe custom , in white reflective for me when i scratched my road runner one . He said no one had ever asked for it before . Still dont have it installed yet :brickwall:
Looks good Larry!,...I'm glad to see you, Sandra and your Grandson got out to enjoy yourselves, and Blackbird,.....just a thought on the mirrors, have you considered the mid year optional 1970 B body racing mirrors, they were avaliable in chrome or body color, real nice design befitting a car like Blackbird,...if your interested, I have a remote drivers side, body color, in nice shape,....yours for the asking, as I'm not doing anything with it,....you'd need to source the passenger side, which is avaliable from Mike at BEAParts.....let me know dude
Mike
Quote from: hotrod98 on April 26, 2010, 08:58:03 AM
We didn't have time to paint the front spoiler. I think it'll look much better black. I'm also thinking about putting flat black Plymouth decals on the quarters and possibly put the flat black Superbird stripes on the back edge of the deck lid.
I have an NOS right hand mirror and would like to find either an NOS left mirror or a really nice original. I also need to locate an original antenna.
I'm going to attempt to use as many oem parts on the car as possible and try to stay away from repro items.
I want to personalize the car some but keep the Black Ice look as much as possible.
-------------------LOOKS GREAT LARRY I THINK A BLACK TRANSVERSE STRIPE SAYING SUPERBIRD WOULD LOOK COOL ON THE BACK. THE TURN SIGNALS IN THE NOSE LOOK GREAT i NEVER HAD THEM THOSE I HAD CAME OUT OF A 70 CORONET, GLAD U LEFT IN THE FOG LAMPS THEY LOOK BADASS AND REALLY HELP ON DARK LONLEY ROADS. I LIKE THE HOODPIN CABLES AS I NEVER HAD THEM THEY LOOK GOOD. YEAH MORE PICS MORE PICS.WHEN I OWNED IT NO MATTER HOW ANY TIMES I DROVE IT ,WHEN YOU HOP IN THE COVKPIT I ALWAYS GOT A RUSH OF ADRENALINE
Mike,
I bought the correct nos passenger side so I guess I'll try to find the driver's side. I appreciate the offer. That spoiler that you made lined right up with the original holes and bolted up with no problems. How do you do that? :yesnod:
Tom,
As for the adrenaline rush, I know exactly what you mean. I always planned to keep the fog lamps. They look great and they may come in handy some dark night. I can't get over how clean the inside of the nose is. There is no rust or buildup whatsoever. This car just keeps throwing out surprises. I had a guy ask me if I had restored the car. I said, no it didn't need to be restored. I just freshened up the paint a little. I never, ever intended for this car to be some perfect trailer queen, but it's actually ended up being nicer than I had planned.
Here's a couple of more pics. The first one is me, my grandson and my daughter-in-law. My son and his wife drove Sandra's green car over for the show. They couldn't stand the thought of her car missing out on the show for the first time since we built it.
Those flat black decals will look bad ass! :2thumbs: One thing about the decals, you can change them out next year just because. I put the black matte call outs on my hood against the gloss black out & love the hell out of the look. If I would have won your Daytona sweepstakes I would have wanted the flat black DAYTONA stripe.
One thing's for sure. There's not another one like yours out there. Whatever you do will be a first. Lookin' good my friend.
Mike, you do realize that you were a big part in making this happen for us. I appreciate you and Allen placing your trust in me is the whole process of buying a car that's half way across the world. Well, Allen's only seven hours from here, but you get the point. It wasn't easy putting together a deal where all three of us could send funds, etc., but I think we all ended up with some pretty nice cars. I had to put a ton of faith in Tom. I was sending money to a guy that I didn't know and knew nothing about. He came through for me with flying colors...and then some.
It was hard trying to work around here today and not want to go over and play with the bird. There are so many little things that I want to do to it.
All your hard work and simply doing what you said you would do is greatly appreciated. I can't speak for Mike but I am happy as can be with the Daytona, only wish this weather would vlear up so I could drive it more!
They're forecasting rain again for Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Crap!!! That makes about four weekends in a row.
At least my son was able to drag race last weekend but the track was kind of slick due to all of the rain. I was too tired from thrashing on the bird to even load my racecar up.
Maybe in a week or so.
The plan has been to go to a car show and then come home, drop off the bird and jump into the truck with the racecar already loaded. We'll see.
:2thumbs: great job. Thanks for sharing.
Quote from: hotrod98 on April 26, 2010, 02:46:04 PM
Here's a couple of more pics. The first one is me, my grandson and my daughter-in-law. My son and his wife drove Sandra's green car over for the show. They couldn't stand the thought of her car missing out on the show for the first time since we built it.
that there is larry and his mini-ME :smilielol: :smilielol:
You got that right... ;D
I bought a gear vendors overdrive from a friend of mine and today I ordered the conversion kit to bolt it to my 4-speed. That should make the car much nicer to drive on the highway with those 3:54 gears. That will make the final ratio 2:76. I also ordered a new set of seat belts from Mike Ross at BE&A. The orginals look pretty good but I just don't trust 40 year old seat belts. I'll box the originals up with some of the other Superbird stuff.
Mike mentioned that he only has a few sets of the Superbird turn signal lenses left. After these are gone there won't be another run. I ordered a set back when he first started selling them and they look and fit great. I'll order another set for spares in a few weeks. I've been spending way too much money lately.
Well...I hit a little speed bump. Saturday, I was firing the car up to go for a drive after the rain moved out and smoke started pouring out from under the dash and from under the hood. Seems that the horn relay decided to come apart and short out against the dash. It fried that harness all of the way through. That thing is toast. I hate it because of the low mileage on the car, it was a nice harness. I don't understand why they run the horn relay off of the main power wire the way that they do. It seems like the fusible link would have protected everything. All it did was light up and smoke while the rest of the harness fried right along with it.
I ordered a new dash harness and an engine harness as well as a new horn relay and a new style ammeter. Hopefully, I can have the car back on the road by this weekend. I'll have to use the time that I had allowed to install the GVO to install the harnesses. No overdrive for me this weekend. It took a couple of hours to remove the harness from the dash and will take two or three to get it back in.
I did get my new seat belts from BE&A today so I can go ahead and get those installed while I'm waiting on the harnesses.
I guess some people would be totally bummed out but it's just another thing that life throws at you sometimes. I don't waste my time worrying about things like this...I just jump into correcting the situation and moving on.
I still love this car. :yesnod:
I don't think it matters how nice the car is, there is always issues that come up. It's just part of the hobby. At least with you, your well set up with that shop to deal with those inconvienances.
hey order me a pair and Ill get u the money unless he has many left. also who makes the housings? now is p.g. classics going to repop these lenses and the housings sometime?? I will look for that lock rod part your missing may have one. the purple runner is at my buddy jimmys house theyre finishing it . connecting all the wiring going through all the instruments repolishing it and fixing some dings. All I need is the rods that go from the fenders that hook up to the front bumper U or anyone elese got any or where to buy them ?? thanx tom
I may have the fender support rods or at least one side. That new Year One dash harness was a joke. Some of the terminals won't slide over the spades on the washer pump switch. And the starter relay wire doesn't have power all of the way through the harness. Just to be able to make the show in Hot Springs, Brent had to wire up a start button. It's a sad day when you pay $400 for a harness and it doesn't even work. The last time I bought a Year One harness we had to go in and remove a couple of terminals and remove the plastic sheathing from the wire. They just crimped the terminal ends right onto the wires without stripping the ends. At first we suspected that this was the case here but not that lucky. The strange thing is that the relay wire is a straight uninterrupted wire all of the way through the harness. Well, it's supposed to be.
I was so worried about the overall quality of the harness that I decided to trailer the car. It was a pain just getting it onto and off of the trailer without ripping the front spoiler off. I need longer ramps. Once we got to Hot Springs we took it off of the trailer and after the show was over, we drove around the city some. Everything worked just fine.
I already have the Moog parts to rebuild the front suspension so I'll try to get that done in a week or so.
Oh, and the car cover came in last week so the car has a little more protection now.
my new dash harness was a joke also and still three years later we are still working out issues with it .
Too bad Evans doesn't make dash harnesses, their stuff has been great for me over the years.
The way I see it is M&H has the market cornered so they let the customer do the final testing. I don't think they have a quality control department. The last two harnesses have proved that to me. Now I have to decide whether to have YO send me another harness and spend four or five hours changing it out or just spend an hour or less and repair this one. If I repair it myself, it seems like they've won. They meaning YO and M&H.
Yes but if you send it back and are forced to weight weeks to enjoy the car, you lose :brickwall: As with many of these companies your choice is either they win or you lose :shruggy: either way they always come out ok :scratchchin:
The harness fried on Saturday. I ordered the harness Monday morning and it was here by Wednesday. I installed it that night but didn't get a chance to button everything up until Friday.
We got the Black Bird out yesterday and drove about 100 miles. It was 95 out and it tried to run a little warm.
When I installed the new dash harness, I didn't get the auxiliary electric fan hooked back up. I guess I better get on that before Branson.
You talk about one hot car to drive around in. Man that black on black is a killer down here in the south. ;D
Maybe THAT'S why they didn't paint Birds black?
The day before we left for the Branson wingcar gathering, we attended a Mopar show at the drag strip where my son and I race. The Black Ice bird was chosen as Best of Show. After our picture was taken, I made a pass down the strip. Man that car moves when you kick in the other two carbs. We also received a big trophy last Thursday at the local cruise night. We're going to run out of room quick at this rate.
I put the rallyes on the car for the cruise night to see how they looked on the car. I'll take a few pics later and post them. I'll trade back and forth on the wheel combination from time to time.
We leave to go back to Branson this Friday. More heat, more traffic and more fun.
Quote from: hotrod98 on June 21, 2010, 12:11:04 AM
The day before we left for the Branson wingcar gathering, we attended a Mopar show at the drag strip where my son and I race. The Black Ice bird was chosen as Best of Show. After our picture was taken, I made a pass down the strip. Man that car moves when you kick in the other two carbs. We also received a big trophy last Thursday at the local cruise night. We're going to run out of room quick at this rate.
I put the rallyes on the car for the cruise night to see how they looked on the car. I'll take a few pics later and post them. I'll trade back and forth on the wheel combination from time to time.
We leave to go back to Branson this Friday. More heat, more traffic and more fun.
:2thumbs: :2thumbs: :drool5:
congrats :cheers:
Thanks...You should have seen the grin on Sandra's face when I kicked all three carbs in on that pass down the track.
She's always been a speed freak. I set the 71 Barracuda up with Simpson harnesses on the passenger side as well and Brent gave her his old Simpson helmet. This track will let you carry a passenger on test and tune night in the radial classes. She can't wait.
very cool . I'm glad Sandra's doing alright . i luv my sixpack car . when they all open it's time to hang on . i'm taking the sixpack off the r/t and putting the original carb and intake manifold on it . i'm building a sixpack motor for the daytona . the deal with sixpacks is that there a pain to tune right but when there right , MAN! they go go . i'm glad your enjoying your new toy .
We took the Superbird back to Branson this weekend for the Route 66 Mopar show at area 57. About noon a thunderstorm rolled in and almost blew a canopy onto the bird. Fortunately, some people that were standing behind my car managed to grab the canopy just as it swung by the wing. I grabbed the side and managed to help them keep it from flying up again. Very close call. The guy that owned the canopy didn't pin it down and he was off somewhere eating lunch when the storm hit. At least the rain cooled things off for a while.
Here's a couple of pics of the car at the show. It looks different with the rallyes on it. I'll trade them back and forth with the Centerlines from time to time just to be different.
Note the destroyed canopy in the background of the second pic.
Next week is race weekend so the bird gets a break from doing the car show thing. Time to play with the Barracuda.
Here's another pic taken in the front yard after we got home from Branson. Shows the rallyes a little better.
Quote from: hotrod98 on June 27, 2010, 11:21:57 PM
Here's another pic taken in the front yard after we got home from Branson. Shows the rallyes a little better.
congratulations on the trophy last week :yesnod: :2thumbs:
bird looks awesome :drool5: :drool5: :coolgleamA:
The latest chapter on the Black Ice Bird.
About 3 weeks ago I bought the Black Ice true Superbird from Larry Roper. He had several people showing interest and 1 very serious guy. I told him I did not want to snatch it from under anyone and to please call the 1 guy back and tell him that the money was available from another buyer who said this 1st guy had dibs. When the 1st guy could not follow through I then bought the car.
It is the history of the car that really grabbed my interest. First-that it was bought from a police impound lot in 1982 for $300 after being abandoned on the street in LA. Then Tom Ferry buying the car, painting it black and using it in marketing for his band, plus the cool fresh air hood. Finally, the fact that Larry Roper had owned it for so many years, resprayed it and kept it unchanged. I know Larry from my yellow Daytona I bought many years ago, and he is as up-front and honest a Mopar lover as can be found.
The car is incredible. We cut and buffed the paint over the weekend, and I tuned it tonight. There are several minor things to do, but what a great car, and the black color really gets set off in the sun. The tires are old, some little things need to be fixed or changed to my liking, but it is a 4-speed with a 6 barrel, fresh air and 6-coat deep black gloss paint job that is absolutely gorgeous, even from 1 foot away. I even got the "BlkkIce" personalized plate that was on it when Tom Ferry had it. I would love to get a set of those 1985 Enkei rims he had on it too.
Look for it at World of Wheels in Louisville in January, and thanks to Larry Roper for his honesty and care of the car.
That's so wicked!! Congrats Bob!! :cheers:
i was wondering how long I'd have to keep quiet, lol. not quite as mind boggling as the one you sent me on your way back from Texas, but a pretty cool text none the less
great car, and great people on both ends of the transaction
Congrads Bob !! That car is very cool.. Almost bought it if my 500 sold but the deal for my 500 feel through and that ended that pursuit... Have fun with her...... It is a fun ride....... Larry, another chapter opens for you.......
:scratchchin: Congrats Bob.
Jean. .. Jean.. do you know what your husband's been up to ??!!! :lol:
Congrats Bob, another beauty in the fleet..
Congratulations Bob! :cheers:
Wendy and I would sure love to see the collection in person if we ever make it that far South!
congrats bob I really wanted to buy the car from Tom when it was in Alaska ( you have two Alaska birds now) lol but couldnt afford it . I turned Larry on to the car and glad he got it and has been a great care taker of the car . Good to hear it has another great caretaker !!!!
We are getting Black Ice ready for the World of Wheels Show in Louisville on the 22nd/23rd. Have put on new tires, complete tune up, redid all dash wiring to factory gauges and fixed a number of issues (tach, reversed dash light indicator, radio, speaker, rear package tray, antifreeze, trans and diff lube, repaired wiper motor, back up lights and other small things.)
I will be replacing the exhaust next weekend and started on a "judges book" which I put in the front seat of all the cars.
An interesting piece of paperwork is the "abandoned vehicle" title, tow receipt and purchase for $125 in 1983. Last titled in Texas in 1981, it had apparently been abandoned on the street on Los Angeles area at that time. Sadly, the lady that bought it was murdered by her husband a few years later.
Quote from: taxspeaker on November 02, 2021, 07:02:58 PM
The latest chapter on the Black Ice Bird.
About 3 weeks ago I bought the Black Ice true Superbird from Larry Roper. He had several people showing interest and 1 very serious guy. I told him I did not want to snatch it from under anyone and to please call the 1 guy back and tell him that the money was available from another buyer who said this 1st guy had dibs. When the 1st guy could not follow through I then bought the car.
It is the history of the car that really grabbed my interest. First-that it was bought from a police impound lot in 1982 for $300 after being abandoned on the street in LA. Then Tom Ferry buying the car, painting it black and using it in marketing for his band, plus the cool fresh air hood. Finally, the fact that Larry Roper had owned it for so many years, resprayed it and kept it unchanged. I know Larry from my yellow Daytona I bought many years ago, and he is as up-front and honest a Mopar lover as can be found.
The car is incredible. We cut and buffed the paint over the weekend, and I tuned it tonight. There are several minor things to do, but what a great car, and the black color really gets set off in the sun. The tires are old, some little things need to be fixed or changed to my liking, but it is a 4-speed with a 6 barrel, fresh air and 6-coat deep black gloss paint job that is absolutely gorgeous, even from 1 foot away. I even got the "BlkkIce" personalized plate that was on it when Tom Ferry had it. I would love to get a set of those 1985 Enkei rims he had on it too.
Look for it at World of Wheels in Louisville in January, and thanks to Larry Roper for his honesty and care of the car.
dont know how i missed this post :slap: wow ! nother awesome aero mopar to you collection ! congratulations Bob great stuff :yesnod: :2thumbs: :cheers: :popcrn:
Not many better people to buy from than Larry Roper!
Hes a sight unseen type seller to trust.
Quote from: 472 R/T SE on January 09, 2022, 10:23:13 AM
Not many better people to buy from than Larry Roper!
Hes a sight unseen type seller to trust.
I totally agree!
Looking great!
Dave
After months of minor repairs such as tires, exhaust, rebuilt the 6 bbl carbs, wiring updates, etc, I drove the black ice Bird to Mobile Alabama for yesterday and today's Moparfest at the Battleships. Great people, great cars, great weather and once again the only wing car there. Incredible attention to the car, but the best story was when a band member of a heavy metal band walked up and said he knew the Band (Black Ice), played in a heavy metal band, and collected 1980's heavy metal albums. Tom if you read this, you would love him! His picture even fits the car and I got his permission today to post it.
How fitting , thats Great Bob !!!
The car looks fantastic ! I love that car and its history! I sent an email to Tom. I used to keep in contact with him but haven't herd from him in some time. He is the best! That man helped me out so much over the years. I don't think my S. bird would exist with out his help and all the templates he sent me. Hopefully he will see that his car is in good hands and still out there !
Don
I got the email back as not a valid address. I hope and pray things are ok with Tom and family. That email address was always good before. :shruggy:
Quote from: dreamcatcher on May 05, 2022, 09:35:36 AM
I got the email back as not a valid address. I hope and pray things are ok with Tom and family. That email address was always good before. :shruggy:
he pops up on Face book every so often
Well glad to hear that. I have a phone number and another email address. I will try them. I haven't talked with Tom in a while.
Thanks
Quote from: hemi68charger on November 03, 2021, 08:00:02 AM
Congrads Bob !! That car is very cool.. Almost bought it if my 500 sold but the deal for my 500 feel through and that ended that pursuit... Have fun with her...... It is a fun ride....... Larry, another chapter opens for you.......
And this car opened the book for you....
WHile I was in Alaska the video guys did a 90 second pretty cool video on this car as a teaser. They had me record th story of the car before I left and tell me it will be up as a bit longher video within the week. Either way, it's a cool video and they did a great job:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYCfXg5moCU
I'm betting that Matt wishes he had taken you up on your offer now.
Nice work, guys
:METAL: :METAL: :METAL: :METAL: :METAL: :punkrocka: :punkrocka: :punkrocka: :punkrocka: :punkrocka: :punkrocka: :punkrocka: Look at Bob Rocking out to the Heavy Metal TOM will be so proud
Has anyone herd from Tom? I tried to message him here and sent email to both his accounts and never herd anything. Just wishing him the best and that things are ok. I know he had retired so maybe just busy.
Yes, I talked with him 3 weeks ago via email to get permission to play their song "hot and heavy" in the background of the you tube video. No mention of issues.
:2thumbs:
The story
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT-J0sIWIdw
nother good video Bob , awsome collection , thanks for sharing them with us :cheers: :2thumbs: :popcrn:
Nice video Bob. :cheers:
Bob,
What a great video! I'd love to see a video on each of your wing cars.
John