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Title: how not to build a (wing) car collection
Post by: held1823 on May 04, 2019, 09:52:39 AM
there are some big, big money cars on the asset seizure list, including a daytona, hemi c500 and three superbirds

the owner was the head of DC Solar, who sponsors Kyle Larson in the the nascar cup series

the story sounds like a repeat of the bernie madoff ponzi scam

https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Couple-behind-East-Bay-solar-generator-firm-13644813.php?psid=2Kwk1

https://racingnews.co/2018/12/21/fbi-raids-home-of-nascar-sponsor-jeff-carpoff/


1970 PLYMOUTH SUPERBIRD
VIN: RM23V0A167083
CALIFORNIA LICENSE NUMBER 6DVY570

1970 PLYMOUTH SUPERBIRD
VIN: RM23V0A170197
CALIFORNIA LICENSE NUMBER 7XSV702

1970 PLYMOUTH SUPERBIRD
VIN RM23U0A170840
CALIFORNIA LICENSE NUMBER 7KWT735


1969 DODGE CHARGER 500
VIN: XX29J9B164192
CALIFORNIA LICENSE NUMBER 7XSV704

1969 DODGE DAYTONA
VIN: XX29L9B410796
UNKNOWN LICENSE NUMBER
Title: Re: how not to build a (wing) car collection
Post by: RammJaeger on May 04, 2019, 09:58:55 AM
I wonder if they will be auctioned off?
Title: Re: how not to build a (wing) car collection
Post by: Dragon Slayer on May 04, 2019, 10:04:41 AM
Google Blood money auction.  Most likely they will go to auction.  Probably crazy prices too.  I went to the Blood Money auction.  It was nuts.  Several cars where documented fakes too.  One want for more than what it was being sold for at a dealer, before the Marshal seized it. 
Title: Re: how not to build a (wing) car collection
Post by: held1823 on May 04, 2019, 10:14:59 AM
here is the list of cars involved here. pretty extensive collection
Title: Re: how not to build a (wing) car collection
Post by: held1823 on May 04, 2019, 10:15:22 AM
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Title: Re: how not to build a (wing) car collection
Post by: held1823 on May 04, 2019, 10:15:44 AM
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Title: Re: how not to build a (wing) car collection
Post by: held1823 on May 04, 2019, 10:23:16 AM
seized superbird #1

RM23V0A167083

once owned/sold by rick hendrick
Title: Re: how not to build a (wing) car collection
Post by: held1823 on May 04, 2019, 10:25:24 AM
seized superbird #2

RM23V0A170197

this one has been through barrett-jackson
Title: Re: how not to build a (wing) car collection
Post by: held1823 on May 04, 2019, 10:27:24 AM
seized superbird #3

RM23U0A170840


once sold through gateway classics
Title: Re: how not to build a (wing) car collection
Post by: Birdflu on May 04, 2019, 10:33:09 AM
Five more Aero cars going to auction...wonder where/when?   :scratchchin:
Title: Re: how not to build a (wing) car collection
Post by: held1823 on May 04, 2019, 10:33:58 AM
the seized hemi 500

XX29J9B164192

also a barrett-jackson alumni
Title: Re: how not to build a (wing) car collection
Post by: held1823 on May 04, 2019, 10:36:07 AM
the seized daytona

XX29L9B410796


another barrett-jackson car
Title: Re: how not to build a (wing) car collection
Post by: chargervert on May 04, 2019, 08:29:15 PM
I think i read that the Daytona was the one that got T boned hard on the right side when it was fairly new.
Title: Re: how not to build a (wing) car collection
Post by: Moparpoolman on May 05, 2019, 03:02:14 AM
Quote from: chargervert on May 04, 2019, 08:29:15 PM
I think i read that the Daytona was the one that got T boned hard on the right side when it was fairly new.
you may be thinking of this one unless there is another.
XX29L9B358403
scroll down to pg 5 in the link below
http://www.superbirdclub.com/files/may_june_2006_newsletter.pdf

A few years back there was a thread on here about it (XX29L9B358403) when it was on ebay
Title: Re: how not to build a (wing) car collection
Post by: nascarxx29 on May 05, 2019, 03:23:15 AM

In the past I found wingcar on these legal sites
Title: Re: how not to build a (wing) car collection
Post by: nascarxx29 on May 05, 2019, 03:31:30 AM
Quote from: chargervert on May 04, 2019, 08:29:15 PM
I think i read that the Daytona was the one that got T boned hard on the right side when it was fairly new.
Travis 69 charger 2002 had the Alabama 358403 t boned Daytona of eBay and sold later
Title: Re: how not to build a (wing) car collection
Post by: nascarxx29 on May 05, 2019, 03:48:45 AM
https://www.leagle.com/decision/199620681996massappdiv7212039
Title: Re: how not to build a (wing) car collection
Post by: Birdflu on May 05, 2019, 02:30:42 PM
Quote from: nascarxx29 on May 05, 2019, 03:48:45 AM
https://www.leagle.com/decision/199620681996massappdiv7212039

Interesting... :scratchchin:

That Amistadi fellow is the same guy who listed those two "barnfind" Superbirds on eBay last fall. He was forced to end the auctions for falsifying information...


Title: Re: how not to build a (wing) car collection
Post by: fastmark on May 05, 2019, 05:47:58 PM
Is amazing how nice of a car collection you can accumulate when you steal money from someone else. Or in this case a bunch of people. My parents got  milked on a deal like that from our good insurance friend years ago. He introduced his son to us on a silent interest in a restaurant chain along with half the people in Abilene. It was a fraud from the word go. He never spent a day in jail and stole millions.
Title: Re: how not to build a (wing) car collection
Post by: stripedelete on May 05, 2019, 08:22:00 PM
Quote from: held1823 on May 04, 2019, 09:52:39 AM
there are some big, big money cars on the asset seizure list, including a daytona, hemi c500 and three superbirds

the owner was the head of DC Solar, who sponsors Kyle Larson in the the nascar cup series

the story sounds like a repeat of the bernie madoff ponzi scam

https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Couple-behind-East-Bay-solar-generator-firm-13644813.php?psid=2Kwk1

https://racingnews.co/2018/12/21/fbi-raids-home-of-nascar-sponsor-jeff-carpoff/


1970 PLYMOUTH SUPERBIRD
VIN: RM23V0A167083
CALIFORNIA LICENSE NUMBER 6DVY570

1970 PLYMOUTH SUPERBIRD
VIN: RM23V0A170197
CALIFORNIA LICENSE NUMBER 7XSV702

1970 PLYMOUTH SUPERBIRD
VIN RM23U0A170840
CALIFORNIA LICENSE NUMBER 7KWT735


1969 DODGE CHARGER 500
VIN: XX29J9B164192
CALIFORNIA LICENSE NUMBER 7XSV704

1969 DODGE DAYTONA
VIN: XX29L9B410796
UNKNOWN LICENSE NUMBER

Sounds like:  Bernie Madoff meets Elizabeth Holmes.
Title: Re: how not to build a (wing) car collection
Post by: Stevetona on May 06, 2019, 05:51:37 PM
Crime does pay....... Till you get caught.   :lol:

Hope the cars go to good homes.
Title: Re: how not to build a (wing) car collection
Post by: Kowal on May 06, 2019, 06:23:17 PM
Nice collection as noted above...yes.    But before anybody gets too envious, remember that there have been more than a few instances where the reason to build a collection like this was essentially money laundering...ie, where can you put all that ill gotten money obtained through fraud without attracting the attention of banks and law enforcement.    Classic Cars are a great place, particularly if they accelerate in value while they sit.

Remember a few years ago there was the guy doing the fake blood testing business, he had a collection of Mopars and Shelby's.    There was the guy running numbers out of NYC, again Mopar collection (that was pretty well known).
Title: Re: how not to build a (wing) car collection
Post by: nascarxx29 on May 06, 2019, 06:27:53 PM
That was the blood money collection irs seized hemi bird etc