At Joey's Place in Edmonton, Alberta. The bulk of the bodywork is complete, and it's now back in the sandblast bay getting some minor spots touched up.
The new quarters, floors and wheelhouses look fantastic!
And a link to go with it:
http://www.joeysplace.com/cgi-bin/newsletter/newsletter.cgi?db=default&sb=1&uid=default&view_records=1&ID=*
Some more pictures:
NICE! :yesnod:
HOLY CRAP is that rotisserie for peterbuilts? ....lookin good by the way
I guess the rotisserie is over-built, to ensure "floppy" cars don't bend.
:scope: looking good :2thumbs: can't remember , what was the original color :scratchchin: am i right in thinking it is a 4 speed car or am i mixing this car up with another :-\
this car was in mcg awhile ago-MATT
http://www.joeysplace.com/scrapbook/pp13.htm
Looks like the restoration is coming along very nicely.
did you ever locate a driveshaft for the car?
wow!, see, that turns me on. all that fresh purdy metal. she's looking real good. :2thumbs:
Dayumm, that's quite the rotisserie! :o
The project's looking good. :thumbs:
Too answer all questions, the previous installments of the saga:
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,13314.0.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,15508.0.html
:yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod:
Quote from: THE CHARGER PUNK on December 27, 2006, 04:01:48 PM
this car was in mcg awhile ago-MATT
http://www.joeysplace.com/scrapbook/pp13.htm
And dig the action under the hood on THAT 'Cuda!
Magnum
Car looks great your 1/2 way home.
Quote from: Magnumcharger on December 27, 2006, 10:13:14 PM
Too answer all questions, the previous installments of the saga:
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,13314.0.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,15508.0.html
:yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod:
yeah i remember that one :P now thanks for the links :thumbs:
Looking great !!!! Is Kori helping on this project?
Troy
Haven
Quote from: hemi68charger on December 28, 2006, 08:54:29 AM
Looking great !!!! Is Kori helping on this project?
Troy
Havent heard from Kori in a while...hows he doing?
First...the HemiCharger 500 isn't MY car! (I only wish!!!)
I've ONLY got a '68 Charger R/T...(pictured). Which is coming along VERY slowly!
Kori is alive and well and living in Peru.
Wait! That's Festerbestertester...(Mad magazine reference).
Actually, he's finished working at the Chrysler dealership he was at, and he's gone into business for himself. His job as a line mechanic was infringing on his restoration biz, so one had to go.
Obviously, when you do the kind of high-quality work he does, the work will always be there!
And he is VERY busy!
And yes, this car will likely find it's way to his shop for completion, sometime in 2007.
Good news. I miss Kori's updates & emails....maybe you can get him to register the 500 :thumbs:
I had thought that you had the information on his 500 already Chris.
You're right I do. Its hard to remember all of them...Im getting hit with VIN's all over the place! ;)
Thats why I only track the 500's, it easier to keep track of just a few hundred.
:)
I went to Joeys yesterday (Jan 19, 07) to take some pictures of the 500 but not much has been done to it lately. See below. It's originally and F8 Green car and Joey told me they are painting it back to original. I'll post updates as it progresses.
It is taking awhile for that car to be done. But knowing who owns it, and what they're prepared to spend on it to make it absolutely perfect, it's to be expected.
Still....it's come a long way!
Just curious, why are the hood hinges black?
Quote from: hotrod98 on January 21, 2007, 10:43:09 AM
Just curious, why are the hood hinges black?
on the green car above? dont know. but i dont think they will stay that way.
Looks great, interested in seeing how it turns out. How much does it cost to do a rotisserie restoration like that on a regular 440 RT car? All I know is that it is well beyond my abilities. I doubt i'd be able to save up enough to have one done. Just wish i had a lift or rotisserie here as I doubt it will ever get redone underneath while there is only 10 inches of clearance.
Its inspiring to see how it should be done.
The cost to restore a 440 Charger would be approximately the same as a Hemi Charger.
Which is why it's a lot more cost-effective to restore Hemi-powered anything.
You will probably make money on the deal when it comes time to sell.
Which is also why so many people are dropping Hemis into E-body convertibles, vs. leaving the 318, 340 or 383 in it's original place.
Quote from: Magnumcharger on January 21, 2007, 11:04:24 PM
The cost to restore a 440 Charger would be approximately the same as a Hemi Charger.
Which is why it's a lot more cost-effective to restore Hemi-powered anything.
You will probably make money on the deal when it comes time to sell.
Which is also why so many people are dropping Hemis into E-body convertibles, vs. leaving the 318, 340 or 383 in it's original place.
I agree... Friends have always felt they shouldn't be driving their nicely restored R/T's, but rather should drive the 318 cars....... Well, the repair cost on a fender let's say, isn't going to be any different from my hemi Charger to a 318 Charger.. It's the same fender........ I guess it's all relative on ho much on is willing to fork out for a restoration of a car.. Guess many feel they have to do a "Concourse" restoration on a hemi car and don't on a 318 car as it's more dispensible...
I came across these shots yesterday, and thought I'd post 'em, just to show how far they had to "dig down" to find something to build on.... :o
Looks like a good starting point. :)
That car should be incredible once it is completed. Looking forward to seeing it one of these days as well.
Quote from: Magnumcharger on January 28, 2007, 05:13:24 PM
I came across these shots yesterday, and thought I'd post 'em, just to show how far they had to "dig down" to find something to build on.... :o
:o :o :o :o :o
Holy Crap!!!!!!!! Thats what my car needs. :icon_smile_blackeye:
An update as of Friday, 9 March 07...fresh from the shop owner, Joey:
"Well we are starting the process, the bare metal areas have been isolated so
we can spray on a metal etch, sealer coat, and a coat of base.
We will come back on Monday and do the caulking, seam
sealers and texture coating. Then we will give the areas 2-3 more coats of
color. Then mask off the over sprayed area and clear coat the rest. The
exterior of quarter panels, roof and rockers will be done separate because
of problems that would be incurred with the look we want on the underside.
If this was a solid color such as others we have done that were say simply
red we could do them in single stage paint but because this color is only
mixable as a base coat / clear coat color we have to take extra steps".
I'm thinking it's looking great! ;D
a few more pics...
Lookin' Great !!!!!!
Man, that's a thing of beauty! I can't even see a seam in the trunk pan, the rest looks flawless too. :thumbs:
I wish I could afford that guy. :)
:scope:thats looking awesome :drool5: , can't wait to the next install ment of pictures :yesnod: ...... :popcrn: .... :thumbs:
Did you ever find a driveshaft for the car? And what was your other question about? The vacuum canisters right?
Quote from: 69_500 on March 13, 2007, 03:50:30 PM
Did you ever find a driveshaft for the car? And what was your other question about? The vacuum canisters right?
Who are you asking?? ???
Looks great !
It does look great and I like the setup he has with the downdraft booth. COOL!!!! :yesnod:
Well the question would be directed towards you MagnumCharger, as I think that you know the owner of the car.
Quote from: 69_500 on March 14, 2007, 04:22:23 PM
Well the question would be directed towards you MagnumCharger, as I think that you know the owner of the car.
I know OF the owner of the car, I've sold some parts TO the owner of the car....but I personally don't know the dude!!
And I definately don't have a line of communication open to him.
If you'd like, I could pass the info along to the restoration shop in question.
Or...you can go here for a car the owner has for sale!
http://mapleleafmopars.homestead.com/1968HemiChargerForSale.html
Ah I see, my mistake. He was posting on here for a while wasn't he?
Quote from: 69_500 on March 14, 2007, 07:48:27 PM
Ah I see, my mistake. He was posting on here for a while wasn't he?
I don't think he was...I could be mistaken.
Ah sometimes I get 1 500 confused with another 500. There are quite a few that I know of that are being restored right now. I'm probably the one who has it confused with another car. I thought it was one that was painted lime green about a year ago right?
Quote from: 69_500 on March 14, 2007, 08:05:25 PM
Ah sometimes I get 1 500 confused with another 500. There are quite a few that I know of that are being restored right now. I'm probably the one who has it confused with another car. I thought it was one that was painted lime green about a year ago right?
Yes, this car WAS lime green, from Quebec, Canada, sold on eBay to a fellow from British Columbia, Canada.
I went to Joey's today (Mar 15, 07) and this car has the under side, engine bay and trunk painted. (green) I've been told it will get it's exterior coat probably next week. If I get a chance to take pics, I will post them. I'm off to the Red Deer swap meet this Saturday to see what I can pick up for my 69.
L8R,
Quote from: 69_500 on March 14, 2007, 07:48:27 PM
Ah I see, my mistake. He was posting on here for a while wasn't he?
This thread?
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,20594.0.html
Quote from: 472 R/T SE on March 23, 2007, 06:46:57 PM
Quote from: 69_500 on March 14, 2007, 07:48:27 PM
Ah I see, my mistake. He was posting on here for a while wasn't he?
This thread?
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,20594.0.html
You're bang on the money!
Magnumcharger, have you heard the latest on this car?
:leaving: wrong color
Quote from: 472 R/T SE on August 28, 2007, 07:40:31 PM
Magnumcharger, have you heard the latest on this car?
:leaving: wrong color
Mike, could it be the car doesn't have clear on it yet?.. Is it supposed to be an F8 car? I know my '68's turquoise didn't look correct until the clear was applied.......
Just curious...
Troy
QuoteI wish I could afford that guy.
me too
Yeah, I looked and looked to see if you posted anything. Kori didn't sound like it was too much of a secret.
It's a crying shame that it wasn't caught sooner. If you're gonna go with green you just as well go in the right shade.
Quote from: 472 R/T SE on August 29, 2007, 01:28:06 PM
Yeah, I looked and looked to see if you posted anything. Kori didn't sound like it was too much of a secret.
It's a crying shame that it wasn't caught sooner. If you're gonna go with green you just as well go in the right shade.
I know when to shut my big yapper!
Not me...I guess.
Quote from: Magnumcharger on August 29, 2007, 01:14:15 PM
Nope...none of the above.
Apparently there was a paint chip being used for reference, that was the wrong one, plain and simple.
Was to be F8, ended up F4.....or vice-versa.
Either way, the car needed to be re-sprayed, and the owner opted to take it elsewhere for the redo.
Quite a shame, as it was absolutely perfect and now it may as well be blasted back to bare metal.
And the bodyshop costs were already over $100K!
With that kind of money involved I would have spray out panels done and have the customer sign off on the color being used before anything makes it onto the car. You just can't risk a mistake.
Quote from: Magnumcharger on September 03, 2007, 11:36:09 AM
I agree....makes a lot of sense now in hindsight.
everything allways does!! its pretty easy to SAY someone would have done somthing different , but that doesnt meen that ACTUALLY would have if in the situation . point is that things happen to all of us who breath air , and the people who think thet are perfect are the ones with the most to learn :eek2:
Wow, that's a bummer
A quick update:
This car is now "color corrected" and being capably assembled by Kori Alexander at Show N Go Restorations.
He's definately got his hands full, as the owner wants to debut this vehicle in March at Las Vegas!!
Previous threads on this car:
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,15508.0.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,13314.30.html
A few more pics...
:drool5: :yesnod: wow awesome ,
W :o W.............. :2thumbs:
That is looking very sweet! :2thumbs: I'm sure the owner was (understandably) a little upset at the whole off-color issue, and I hope that everything turned out alright for him.
March, huh? They can probably have it all together by then, but there is a lot of work left. At least they have a lot of the sub-assembly components all prepped and ready to go.
Thanks for posting the pics, Robin!
P.S. This isn't a major deal at all, but the red paint on the brake drums was only supposed to be for 14" Chrome Road Wheels in '69. With 15" steel wheels you can't see the face of the drum so they didn't paint those. Again, no big deal
Quote from: Magnumcharger on August 29, 2007, 01:14:15 PM
Nope...none of the above.
Apparently there was a paint chip being used for reference, that was the wrong one, plain and simple.
Was to be F8, ended up F4.....or vice-versa.
Either way, the car needed to be re-sprayed, and the owner opted to take it elsewhere for the redo.
Quite a shame, as it was absolutely perfect and now it may as well be blasted back to bare metal.
And the bodyshop costs were already over $100K!
Quote from: Magnumcharger on September 03, 2007, 11:36:09 AM
I agree....makes a lot of sense now in hindsight.
So magnum, why are you deleting previous threads? :shruggy:
I like that shade of green much better. Kori's got his work cut out for him. I would love to make Vegas. :scratchchin:
Quote
So magnum, why are you deleting previous threads? :shruggy:
Streamlining the thread. Some things only need to be said once.
:cheers: :2thumbs: :drool5:
Planning on taking the car to Vegas huh? Hmmmm, 3 years in a row I attend the Vegas show, and only see 1 Charger 500. This year I wasn't planning on going, and another 500 is going to be there? Hmmmmmm, maybe I need to make the plans to go anyways.
Looks like the car is coming along very nicely. Quite a drastic change from how the car looked a little over a year ago.
Quote from: 69_500 on January 30, 2008, 05:02:33 PM
Planning on taking the car to Vegas huh? Hmmmm, 3 years in a row I attend the Vegas show, and only see 1 Charger 500. This year I wasn't planning on going, and another 500 is going to be there? Hmmmmmm, maybe I need to make the plans to go anyways.
Looks like the car is coming along very nicely. Quite a drastic change from how the car looked a little over a year ago.
I'm pulling as many strings as I can to try and make it there. Never been.
From Kori: (Who lurks, but cannot be seen!): "So Geno is saying the rear drums should not be painted red....
I'm wondering about early built cars (1st week of production) with the optional 15 recall
wheels??? I will try to dig up a 'before' pic of the diff and drums.....pretty sure they had some red paint on them...
If not..no big deal...I have somemore restored drums without red...
Tell him thanks..we only want to do this once and do it right...
And thank Ed Cook for sending some pics of his beau-t-yful red 500...."
thx
k
Quote from: Magnumcharger on January 30, 2008, 09:01:52 PM
From Kori: (Who lurks, but cannot be seen!): "So Geno is saying the rear drums should not be painted red....
I'm wondering about early built cars (1st week of production) with the optional 15 recall
wheels??? I will try to dig up a 'before' pic of the diff and drums.....pretty sure they had some red paint on them...
If not..no big deal...I have somemore restored drums without red...
Tell him thanks..we only want to do this once and do it right...
Robin,
I do not have any paperwork which mentions anything about red drums on cars with W23 cast center wheels. When typing that earlier reply in, I actually started to write about the possibility of the W23 getting red drums since that seems logical. However, I went back to the paperwork and found it to show the following note:
APPLY A 2" WIDE PAINT BAND FROM EDGE OF
DRUM IN TOWARD CENTER PER P.S.3840 WITH
3404653 ENAMEL (N.D.SEE 2200087)
(WITH CHROME ROAD WHEELS ONLY)That last line is obviously the reason I'd say pretty confidently that there should be no paint on the brake drums for anything w/o the Magnum wheels. The particular Engineering Illustration I found is dated 2/19/68, with its last modification being dated 9/11/68 - right around the time the W23 wheels were cancelled. There is no notation on the sheet about any changes made in that regard, and the Engineers were pretty much sticklers about noting EVERYTHING. They still have the part number callouts for the lug nuts used with the cast center wheels on this particular sheet, so you'd think they'd also have the red paint listed if it were to have it?? :shruggy:
Can you see the face of the drum with the cast center wheels installed? That was the whole reason for the red paint in the first place -- because the unpainted drums tended to rust almost immediately and it didn't look so hot that way on the dealers' sales lots. You can see the drums through the open slots in the Road Wheels, but most of the other wheel centers are not as opened up.
I am honestly not trying to pick Kori's work apart - the car really does look GREAT. For whatever reason, I figured Kori would want to get that detail right which is why I mentioned it. More than likely it'd never be seen with the wheels on, but it's an easy fix now.
Oh, and Hi Kori!!! :wave: He should join in the fun on this site - I'm sure I could learn way more from him than vice-versa. Knowing trivial details about paint on brake drums does not compare to the bodyworking & restoration skills that he has... :bow:
Quote from: Magnumcharger on January 30, 2008, 09:01:52 PM
From Kori: (Who lurks, but cannot be seen!): "So Geno is saying the rear drums should not be painted red....
I'm wondering about early built cars (1st week of production) with the optional 15 recall
wheels??? I will try to dig up a 'before' pic of the diff and drums.....pretty sure they had some red paint on them...
If not..no big deal...I have somemore restored drums without red...
Tell him thanks..we only want to do this once and do it right...
And thank Ed Cook for sending some pics of his beau-t-yful red 500...."
thx
k
I've seen an unrestored Daytona with Magnums that had the rear drums painted red, and I'm almost certain any car with the steelies did NOT have them painted. For 1970, I've seen a lot of restored cars with Rallye wheels have the drums painted, but don't recall seeing an unrestored car as such. My car (a 70 GTX w/ Rallye's) is mostly original, and I saw no trace of red on the drums. However, they could have been replaced somewhere along the line (it had 62K original miles on it when I got it). Not sure if this helps, but just some more data points.
Side note here to go along with what Gene is saying. The page that Gene is mentioning is listed in a newer Mopar magazine. On page 96 of the Mopar Enthusiast, the Dec/Jan 2008 issue, which is Volume 2, issue 1. It is the not the exact page that Gene is referncing, as the one they show is dated 2-19-68 however it is regarding the exact same situation.
Some clarification is in order....
The cars that find their way to Kori's shop, for the most part, have the body refinished. They are, however, completely dissassembled, and often times missing essential components.
Kori's expertise lies in the area of completing the restoration, to the point of being completely authentic. Most shops can detail a car to appear correct. Kori actually makes them correct, no if's and/or buts.
If a fastener on the hood latch came with a black phosphate coating, it's going to have it again. Paint daubs, axle tags, carb finish, hose id, proper glass, cosmoline dipping, datecodes up the yingyag....he does all of this. And, he does most of it by himself.
He rebuilds engines, transmissions, and differentials to spec, then refinishes them to original appearance. It's truly incredible to see. He doesn't advertise....yet getting a spot reserved in his shop...well....you better book ahead.
The top Mopar at last years' Las Vegas show - a 1971 Roadrunner - was done by him.
It was awarded "World's best Mopar" honors.
That being said, and in reference to the red drums - he had an all-original 1971 Challenger R/T in his shop last fall. Rallye wheels, with red drums.
He thinks that might be the case for '70 and up cars...and not just with Magnum/Road wheels.
The '70 model year sheet showing the red brake drums was posted a year or more ago by John Kunkel in another thread. In that document, it requires the drums to be painted on "Styled Wheels" - which IIRC includes Rallye wheels as well as the Magnum/Road wheels. Here is the '70 page:
(http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/attachments/red_drum_paint_bulliten2.jpg)
Kind of interesting to note that the 68, 69, and 70 pages all follow the exact same layout, and has the same diargram. The only thing I see different is the note changing from only on Road wheels to the Styled wheels. Well and part #'s changing here and there, and the section labeled SPL EQ Only is a whole lot shorted on the 70 page than the 68 and even 69.
Hi again,
I just got a few update pics from Kori at Show and Go. The 500 is coming along nicely, as you can see.
Lots of interest in this car, as well as healthy debate!! :lol:
Be that as it may, it's looking fabulous!
Love the choice of rims for the car. I don't recall if the car had a broadcast sheet calling for the W23 wheels or not, but its definately early enough to have been ordered with them.
Are you for sure going to have it out at Las Vegas? I'm still hoping to make the show, but I am not 100% positive I will this year.
This car has no build sheet, but the one that was one number off this one has it's build sheet showing the W23 option. They are both Sept 7/68 build dates. The W23 wheels were all re-called Sept 13/68. So the owner decided to put those wheels on this car, as it's brother on the Line had them.
And yes, the focus is still on having it in Vegas on time.
Have they talked to the current owner of the car that is sequentially right before this car?
Oh side note, the car that is 3 after that one, had the W23 chrome trim rings on the car, with dog dish hubcaps. Oddly enough.
I belive that they pulled the plug on the Kelsey wheels on August 17 1968. But I have seen build sheets up until December cars that still calls for them? I think they look killer on Chargers!
Quote from: XXHEMI on February 08, 2008, 05:48:48 PM
I belive that they pulled the plug on the Kelsey wheels on August 17 1968. But I have seen build sheets up until December cars that still calls for them? I think they look killer on Chargers!
Like these?? :D
A broadcast sheet calling for W23 as late as December? Learn something new every day. Latest I had seen the W23 on a broadcast sheet was late in September of 68.
I belive it was the Silver blue interior hEMI 500 from NJ ??? But I could be wrong BRAIN IS SHOT
Have seen that car 1 time, but don't recall getting a chance to view the broadcast sheet to it though. Would love to though.
And the big Hemi goes in!!
more...
and the finale!
Here's the finished product.
just beautiful ........ :drool5: :drool5: what a machine .................. :'(
Quote from: tan top on August 05, 2008, 12:04:42 PM
just beautiful ........ :drool5: :drool5: what a machine .................. :'(
I totally agree :drool5: :drool5: :drool5: :drool5: :drool5: :drool5: :drool5: :drool5: :drool5: :drool5: :drool5: :drool5:
:o awsome
I guess a few more pics from Kori wouldn't hurt....
looks great in the field of yellow flowers
Man oh Man !!!! What a great lookin' machine, let alone a hemi C500...............
Troy
Car looks very nice. I just wanna know why there isn't any pictures of the car laying down those rubber strips? Those would have been the ones i would have posted. Pictures of Carl just going out and enjoying the beautiful car that he has.
Quote from: 69_500 on August 05, 2008, 07:28:44 PM
I just wanna know why there isn't any pictures of the car laying down those rubber strips?
Two words:
Plausible Deniability
[pleading voice]
No that wasn't me - honest, officer!
[/pleading voice]
BTW, GREAT looking car, Carl!
:cheers:
Anyone else notice the gap between the top of the grille and the hood and how it tapers down on each side towards the fenders? I guess this is how its supposed to be. I just always thought the gap would be the same all the way across. :scratchchin:
she's a thing of beauty :drool5:
Awesome Car!! Awesome Resto!! :drool5: :drool5: :drool5: :popcrn:
Im starting to like the recall wheels.... :brickwall:
I suppose this might serve to be the real finale....
http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/carsforsale/dodge/charger/926958.html
Man, that car is following me everywhere! :lol: I lived on the Island and it was apperentley located in Sooke. Then I move to Surrey and the location of the ad is Surrey! :icon_smile_big:
I sold that car for 20k :o Looks Great! :2thumbs:
Quote from: maxwellwedge on October 28, 2009, 06:39:21 PM
I sold that car for 20k :o Looks Great! :2thumbs:
it can be yours again , LOL only a few more zero's
Quote from: moparstuart on October 29, 2009, 09:47:26 AM
Quote from: maxwellwedge on October 28, 2009, 06:39:21 PM
I sold that car for 20k :o Looks Great! :2thumbs:
it can be yours again , LOL only a few more zero's
The few more zero's I have - It is the number in front that hurts! :lol: