Saw this on the B Body site... :o
http://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparforum/showthread.php?58797-How-to-ruin-your-weekend
Maybe a Brice road someone stopped short incident.
:icon_smile_big: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/bird-bash-leaves-gaping-hole-united-737-landing-denver-article-1.1126446
This is in Lemoyne, PA, near Harrisburg.
Harrisburg enroute to Carlisle .There was a few shows back a blue superbird that was similar damage.And had a sign on it all weekend thanks to the old lady that pulled out in front of me
the blue one was wrecked at the woodward dream cruise two years ago. it's already had its moment in the spotlight.
i think the fbbo post was from mark (mytur). hopefully he will provide the details here as well.
That is going to be an expensive repair.
sad sight :icon_smile_blackeye:
Quote from: Aero426 on September 02, 2013, 01:13:07 PM
That is going to be an expensive repair.
I think he should just give me the car :icon_smile_big:
theres 10 grand spent!
:faint:
Quote from: rusty70charger on September 02, 2013, 01:49:00 PM
theres 10 grand spent!
i'll see that 10, and raise you at least another 10
(stu got me by 4 seconds, dang it)
The woodward cruise superbird was another B5 wounded warrior
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,84031.0.html
Sad. The thread says the owner came out of the gas station a little too wide onto incoming traffic.
Sad day indeed, at least it's repairable, costly but repairable.
The car belongs to a very good friend of mine & if anyone has a line on any Superbird nose parts for sale, please drop me a p/m.
Thanks. :2thumbs:
Quote from: held1823 on September 02, 2013, 02:01:14 PM
Quote from: rusty70charger on September 02, 2013, 01:49:00 PM
theres 10 grand spent!
i'll see that 10, and raise you at least another 10
(stu got me by 4 seconds, dang it)
depending on how nice he wants it , it may cost him 20 just for correct nice parts :Twocents:
Ah man........... Looks like the driver's ok, but man.......... His stomach has got to be in his mouth at the look of that..... :'(
Some of you saw my wrecked nose last summer , it was a 2mph parking lot bump, and cost $32,961 to replace with a nos nose and paint. Hagerty is awesome, never blinked an eye about it.
Although this is worse, I feel for him. In the right hands it will be repaired
I still have my old bent in nose...
Quote from: hemi68charger on September 02, 2013, 03:11:04 PM
Ah man........... Looks like the driver's ok, but man.......... His stomach has got to be in his mouth at the look of that..... :'(
Her stomach. :yesnod:
Trust me I know how he feels .I know first hand how a rear end of a superbird holds up after being rear ended by a truck in the 80-s.My old car 19K mile 6 pack 4 speed RM23VOA179697
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e67/75414/1970_SUPERBIRD_ORANGE_47.jpg)
Quote from: nascarxx29 on September 02, 2013, 03:35:58 PM
Trust me I know how he feels .I know first hand how a rear end of a superbird holds up after being rear ended by a truck in the 80-s.My old car 19K mile 6 pack 4 speed RM23VOA179697
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e67/75414/1970_SUPERBIRD_ORANGE_47.jpg)
Was your car ever fixed? Pictures?
Never fixed parted it out
How did the orange 'Bird pull out into oncoming traffic (making a left I guess?) and end up being hit almost squarely head-on like that? That seems like a strange way to wreck.
Quote from: nascarxx29 on September 02, 2013, 04:58:07 PM
Never fixed parted it out
Build a clone to drive instead :)
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on September 02, 2013, 11:56:31 PM
How did the orange 'Bird pull out into oncoming traffic (making a left I guess?) and end up being hit almost squarely head-on like that? That seems like a strange way to wreck.
She pulled out of the gas station and (I guess) misjudged the lanes & started driving in the oncoming left turn lane. :eek2:
?
I'm glad to see nobody was hurt.
Depending on how familiar you are with the surroundings, this is probably a lot easier to do than some would think.
Quote from: Aero426 on September 03, 2013, 09:03:00 AM
Depending on how familiar you are with the surroundings, this is probably a lot easier to do than some would think.
That is definately true.
Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on September 03, 2013, 09:48:15 AM
Quote from: Aero426 on September 03, 2013, 09:03:00 AM
Depending on how familiar you are with the surroundings, this is probably a lot easier to do than some would think.
That is definately true.
Definitely, around here some lady went the wrong way on the expressway, she was wasted and had a van full of kids, all died.
Even happens to pro drivers....
Poor Bird!!! :rotz: :'( That would of made me sick... :icon_smile_dissapprove: And I probably would of beat the other driver with part of the nosecone... :RantExplode:
Quote from: 70moparman on September 04, 2013, 03:48:45 PM
Poor Bird!!! :rotz: :'( That would of made me sick... :icon_smile_dissapprove: And I probably would of beat the other driver with part of the nosecone... :RantExplode:
Was. Not. The. Other. Driver's. Fault.
Bad deal all the way around for everyone involved. Poor Bird indeed. :pity:
Cotton would have liked to have beaten Buddy with part of the nose cone.
(http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=104426.0;attach=204763;image)
Quote from: odcics2 on September 04, 2013, 02:56:16 PM
Even happens to pro drivers....
Buddy ran into the back of James Hylton while leading under caution trying to read the pit board. 1969 Texas 500.
"IF YOU'RE UNDER CONTROL, YOU AIN'T GOING FAST ENOUGH."
Quote from: RTDaddy on September 04, 2013, 05:20:44 PM
Quote from: odcics2 on September 04, 2013, 02:56:16 PM
Even happens to pro drivers....
Buddy ran into the back of James Hylton while leading under caution trying to read the pit board. 1969 Texas 500.
"IF YOU'RE UNDER CONTROL, YOU AIN'T GOING FAST ENOUGH."
The race Bobby Issac won, no? First race at Texas World Speedway.......
Quote from: Aero426 on September 04, 2013, 03:54:40 PM
Quote from: 70moparman on September 04, 2013, 03:48:45 PM
Poor Bird!!! :rotz: :'( That would of made me sick... :icon_smile_dissapprove: And I probably would of beat the other driver with part of the nosecone... :RantExplode:
Was. Not. The. Other. Driver's. Fault.
Bad deal all the way around for everyone involved. Poor Bird indeed. :pity:
Whoops ~ Sorry about that... I ASSUMED anyone behind the wheel of a Superbird to be a car guy, and naturally thought some bone-head in a Honda caused the wreck... I guess instead of beating the other driver with part of the nosecone, I would take out a home equity line of credit on my house and start looking for a front-end... (after i was done throwing up for a few hours first) :icon_smile_dissapprove: :icon_smile_dissapprove: :icon_smile_dissapprove:
*Forget the high cost of the replacement parts, you would be lucky to even locate them at this point in time, yet alone find somoene willing to sell what they have... It will be like a long, painful scavenger hunt for parts... Ahhhhhhhh!
I cant immage a more expensive muscle car front end to replace, except a Daytona of course... Man what a bummer
$60,000 IN DAMAGE EASY.. :eek2:
:errr: :puke:
Quote from: Daytona Guy on September 02, 2013, 11:58:26 PM
Quote from: nascarxx29 on September 02, 2013, 04:58:07 PM
Never fixed parted it out
Build a clone to drive instead :)
I agree. How much fun is driving a wing car in public when you are in constant fear of it being in an accident? Or stolen? Or vandalized? :shruggy:
Quote from: 6PakBee on September 05, 2013, 08:27:26 AM
Quote from: Daytona Guy on September 02, 2013, 11:58:26 PM
Build a clone to drive instead :)
I agree. How much fun is driving a wing car in public when you are in constant fear of it being in an accident? Or stolen? Or vandalized? :shruggy:
i'd say the owner was having a hell of a lot of fun
Quote from: 6PakBee on September 05, 2013, 08:27:26 AM
I agree. How much fun is driving a wing car in public when you are in constant fear of it being in an accident? Or stolen? Or vandalized? :shruggy:
It is a ridiculous amount of fun to have these cars out, especially on the open road. The only things that really concern me out there are real heavy traffic at speed, and weather. But mostly weather.
Clone or not, you cannot foresee every circumstance. Cars burn down in locked garages too. You can only do your best to try and protect yourself by driving defensively. Hopefully the owner of the Bird has the right insurance.
If you live in fear, perhaps the 1/18 ERTL version is the right car to own.
:iagree:
:leaving:
A pleasure to own and drive a wingcar I did it 7 days a week as a regular driver comuter car .But you do got to keep your guard up because of the attention it draws and distractions it can create
I used to breathe a sigh of relief pulling up my friends driveway returning his car back to Maryland after I was done maintence.
And still look behind me while sitting at a light after being severly rear ended in the old superbird
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e67/75414/100_0481.jpg)
I drive mine and enjoy it,if I would have to worry about something happening I would just as soon not own it.Two weeks ago it got over 400 mi in one day,central PA to front Royal,VA,over the Skyline Drive to Rock Fish Gap and home,never worried for one minute,been doing it since I finished it 20 yrs ago and ten yrs before that and it's still in one piece !!
So much as no one appears to have been hurt, life is fine.
The idea that cars like these are worth too much to drive, and therefore folks would worry too much when they drive them is just absurd. Real cars are not worth that much. If it is metal or plastic it can be fixed, if someone has the kind of personality where they wouldn't drive a car there are 1/18 scale models-as someone else has said. If folks just want to keep a bookend in the garage that is fine too.
The idea of causing bodily harm to someone after the fact of a fender bender is well..... how do people even respond to that? It is just a car.
Quote from: Aero426 on September 05, 2013, 09:58:38 AM
Quote from: 6PakBee on September 05, 2013, 08:27:26 AM
I agree. How much fun is driving a wing car in public when you are in constant fear of it being in an accident? Or stolen? Or vandalized? :shruggy:
It is a ridiculous amount of fun to have these cars out, especially on the open road. The only things that really concern me out there are real heavy traffic at speed, and weather. But mostly weather.
Clone or not, you cannot foresee every circumstance. Cars burn down in locked garages too. You can only do your best to try and protect yourself by driving defensively. Hopefully the owner of the Bird has the right insurance.
If you live in fear, perhaps the 1/18 ERTL version is the right car to own.
Yuk, yuk, yuk, boy was that a funny one there :rofl: :rofl: Getting serious again, apparently you have no problem driving your original wing car like a daily driver. If it gets wrecked, so what. If it costs $40,000-$60,000 to get it repaired, so what. You my friend, apparently have more money than I will ever have. And don't mention the 'I' word, insurance. They don't give policies with that kind of coverage away for nothing.
Nose cone schmoze cone, who needs it? Rip off the 'Bird pieces, and you got yourself a nice Roadrunner-problem solved...
:poke:
:popcrn:
Quote from: 6PakBee on September 05, 2013, 06:33:59 PM
Quote from: Aero426 on September 05, 2013, 09:58:38 AM
Quote from: 6PakBee on September 05, 2013, 08:27:26 AM
I agree. How much fun is driving a wing car in public when you are in constant fear of it being in an accident? Or stolen? Or vandalized? :shruggy:
It is a ridiculous amount of fun to have these cars out, especially on the open road. The only things that really concern me out there are real heavy traffic at speed, and weather. But mostly weather.
Clone or not, you cannot foresee every circumstance. Cars burn down in locked garages too. You can only do your best to try and protect yourself by driving defensively. Hopefully the owner of the Bird has the right insurance.
If you live in fear, perhaps the 1/18 ERTL version is the right car to own.
Yuk, yuk, yuk, boy was that a funny one there :rofl: :rofl: Getting serious again, apparently you have no problem driving your original wing car like a daily driver. If it gets wrecked, so what. If it costs $40,000-$60,000 to get it repaired, so what. You my friend, apparently have more money than I will ever have. And don't mention the 'I' word, insurance. They don't give policies with that kind of coverage away for nothing.
No one said they don't care if they get wrecked....that would be a dumber statement than what a Kardashian can come up with. I guess I should stop taking showers in case I slip and crush my skull....or stop going to the beach in case a shark attacks.......I got to go and order a truck load of bubble wrap. As far as money......Insurance on these cars is a fraction of what I pay for my daily transportation. If you cant afford the insurance - sell the car to someone that can and who will actually drive it. I drive everything I own. I don't jump in them and start wondering if I will get poked. I jump in them and drive with an ear to ear grin.
Quote from: maxwellwedge on September 06, 2013, 07:35:25 AM
Quote from: 6PakBee on September 05, 2013, 06:33:59 PM
Quote from: Aero426 on September 05, 2013, 09:58:38 AM
Quote from: 6PakBee on September 05, 2013, 08:27:26 AM
I agree. How much fun is driving a wing car in public when you are in constant fear of it being in an accident? Or stolen? Or vandalized? :shruggy:
It is a ridiculous amount of fun to have these cars out, especially on the open road. The only things that really concern me out there are real heavy traffic at speed, and weather. But mostly weather.
Clone or not, you cannot foresee every circumstance. Cars burn down in locked garages too. You can only do your best to try and protect yourself by driving defensively. Hopefully the owner of the Bird has the right insurance.
If you live in fear, perhaps the 1/18 ERTL version is the right car to own.
Yuk, yuk, yuk, boy was that a funny one there :rofl: :rofl: Getting serious again, apparently you have no problem driving your original wing car like a daily driver. If it gets wrecked, so what. If it costs $40,000-$60,000 to get it repaired, so what. You my friend, apparently have more money than I will ever have. And don't mention the 'I' word, insurance. They don't give policies with that kind of coverage away for nothing.
No one said they don't care if they get wrecked....that would be a dumber statement than what a Kardashian can come up with. I guess I should stop taking showers in case I slip and crush my skull....or stop going to the beach in case a shark attacks.......I got to go and order a truck load of bubble wrap. As far as money......Insurance on these cars is a fraction of what I pay for my daily transportation. If you cant afford the insurance - sell the car to someone that can and who will actually drive it. I drive everything I own. I don't jump in them and start wondering if I will get poked. I jump in them and drive with an ear to ear grin.
Smart man !!! :icon_smile_big:
Quote from: maxwellwedge on September 06, 2013, 07:35:25 AM
Quote from: 6PakBee on September 05, 2013, 06:33:59 PM
Quote from: Aero426 on September 05, 2013, 09:58:38 AM
Quote from: 6PakBee on September 05, 2013, 08:27:26 AM
I agree. How much fun is driving a wing car in public when you are in constant fear of it being in an accident? Or stolen? Or vandalized? :shruggy:
It is a ridiculous amount of fun to have these cars out, especially on the open road. The only things that really concern me out there are real heavy traffic at speed, and weather. But mostly weather.
Clone or not, you cannot foresee every circumstance. Cars burn down in locked garages too. You can only do your best to try and protect yourself by driving defensively. Hopefully the owner of the Bird has the right insurance.
If you live in fear, perhaps the 1/18 ERTL version is the right car to own.
Yuk, yuk, yuk, boy was that a funny one there :rofl: :rofl: Getting serious again, apparently you have no problem driving your original wing car like a daily driver. If it gets wrecked, so what. If it costs $40,000-$60,000 to get it repaired, so what. You my friend, apparently have more money than I will ever have. And don't mention the 'I' word, insurance. They don't give policies with that kind of coverage away for nothing.
No one said they don't care if they get wrecked....that would be a dumber statement than what a Kardashian can come up with. I guess I should stop taking showers in case I slip and crush my skull....or stop going to the beach in case a shark attacks.......I got to go and order a truck load of bubble wrap. As far as money......Insurance on these cars is a fraction of what I pay for my daily transportation. If you cant afford the insurance - sell the car to someone that can and who will actually drive it. I drive everything I own. I don't jump in them and start wondering if I will get poked. I jump in them and drive with an ear to ear grin.
Well said. I would be embarrassed to pull into a car show with my charger on a trailer.
Quote from: Back N Black on September 06, 2013, 08:55:10 AM
Quote from: maxwellwedge on September 06, 2013, 07:35:25 AM
Quote from: 6PakBee on September 05, 2013, 06:33:59 PM
Quote from: Aero426 on September 05, 2013, 09:58:38 AM
Quote from: 6PakBee on September 05, 2013, 08:27:26 AM
I agree. How much fun is driving a wing car in public when you are in constant fear of it being in an accident? Or stolen? Or vandalized? :shruggy:
It is a ridiculous amount of fun to have these cars out, especially on the open road. The only things that really concern me out there are real heavy traffic at speed, and weather. But mostly weather.
Clone or not, you cannot foresee every circumstance. Cars burn down in locked garages too. You can only do your best to try and protect yourself by driving defensively. Hopefully the owner of the Bird has the right insurance.
If you live in fear, perhaps the 1/18 ERTL version is the right car to own.
Yuk, yuk, yuk, boy was that a funny one there :rofl: :rofl: Getting serious again, apparently you have no problem driving your original wing car like a daily driver. If it gets wrecked, so what. If it costs $40,000-$60,000 to get it repaired, so what. You my friend, apparently have more money than I will ever have. And don't mention the 'I' word, insurance. They don't give policies with that kind of coverage away for nothing.
No one said they don't care if they get wrecked....that would be a dumber statement than what a Kardashian can come up with. I guess I should stop taking showers in case I slip and crush my skull....or stop going to the beach in case a shark attacks.......I got to go and order a truck load of bubble wrap. As far as money......Insurance on these cars is a fraction of what I pay for my daily transportation. If you cant afford the insurance - sell the car to someone that can and who will actually drive it. I drive everything I own. I don't jump in them and start wondering if I will get poked. I jump in them and drive with an ear to ear grin.
Well said. I would be embarrassed to pull into a car show with my charger on a trailer.
You could do what some do here,unload two block away and drive in !! ::)
those two block cruisers don't fool too many people. a driver will always have tells.
you can tell who drove to the shows by how many bugs are busted on the front end.. :icon_smile_big:
Quote from: Aero426 on September 05, 2013, 09:58:38 AM
Quote from: 6PakBee on September 05, 2013, 08:27:26 AM
If you live in fear, perhaps the 1/18 ERTL version is the right car to own.
Yuk, yuk, yuk, boy was that a funny one there :rofl: :rofl: Getting serious again, apparently you have no problem driving your original wing car like a daily driver. If it gets wrecked, so what. If it costs $40,000-$60,000 to get it repaired, so what. You my friend, apparently have more money than I will ever have. And don't mention the 'I' word, insurance. They don't give policies with that kind of coverage away for nothing.
I recently returned from a 240 mile round trip in my mostly original paint Superbird. In the process, I verified that my GPS would roll over to three digits in the max speed department. Please do not confuse that with "driving it like a stolen car". I would never want to see my car get hurt. Nor am I a rich guy. In fact, most of the guys who own these cars are not wealthy.
My agreed value insurance on THREE collector cars costs me less than my daily driver used pickup truck.
My car is nice, but it is not a painting in a museum. I always try to be aware when I drive it. But I never go out wondering "what the heck is going to happen today?"
Quote from: Aero426 on September 06, 2013, 01:25:20 PM
Quote from: Aero426 on September 05, 2013, 09:58:38 AM
Quote from: 6PakBee on September 05, 2013, 08:27:26 AM
If you live in fear, perhaps the 1/18 ERTL version is the right car to own.
Yuk, yuk, yuk, boy was that a funny one there :rofl: :rofl: Getting serious again, apparently you have no problem driving your original wing car like a daily driver. If it gets wrecked, so what. If it costs $40,000-$60,000 to get it repaired, so what. You my friend, apparently have more money than I will ever have. And don't mention the 'I' word, insurance. They don't give policies with that kind of coverage away for nothing.
I recently returned from a 240 mile round trip in my mostly original paint Superbird. In the process, I verified that my GPS would roll over to three digits in the max speed department. Please do not confuse that with "driving it like a stolen car". I would never want to see my car get hurt. Nor am I a rich guy. In fact, most of the guys who own these cars are not wealthy.
My agreed value insurance on THREE collector cars costs me less than my daily driver used pickup truck.
My car is nice, but it is not a painting in a museum. I always try to be aware when I drive it. But I never go out wondering "what the heck is going to happen today?"
I'm not going to prolong this misery but to carry $60,000 of agreed value on my Superbird (yes, I have one) is right at $600/year through Hagerty. Considering I insure my used pickup truck for $165/year, I'd say those are widely different figures.
Look, I'm not suffering from paranoia, nor do I spend my days in bed with the covers pulled over my head. But I pride myself on being pragmatic. I still maintain that treating a wingcar with the same regard as a daily driver is foolish. It's not the value that's the question, it's the ability to recover from damage. A Ferrari costs more than any wing car but I would have no problem driving it like a rental simply because if something gets crumpled, there's a whole shelf of that part in the Ferrari organization. Where are you going to get the windshield deflectors, rear window medallions, rear window trim, etc. etc. if they get damaged or stolen? There's no part shelf at Chrysler any more with these parts.
You guys treat your cars the way you want and I'll treat mine the way I want and let's leave it at that.
Yeah especially rear window trim... :flame: radiator, latch tray, front nose screen, parking lens,and much much more that is not really seen or noticed... :scratchchin: :icon_smile_angry:
Quote from: GOTWING on September 06, 2013, 01:12:24 PM
you can tell who drove to the shows by how many bugs are busted on the front end.. :icon_smile_big:
You know it was a meaty but unfortunate bug when the remains on the wing go on both sides of the upright or horizontal portion! I've cleaned more than a few of those...
As long as it didn't overheat etc. I would continue to drive it
Quote from: 6PakBee on September 06, 2013, 01:44:20 PM
Quote from: Aero426 on September 06, 2013, 01:25:20 PM
Quote from: Aero426 on September 05, 2013, 09:58:38 AM
Quote from: 6PakBee on September 05, 2013, 08:27:26 AM
If you live in fear, perhaps the 1/18 ERTL version is the right car to own.
Yuk, yuk, yuk, boy was that a funny one there :rofl: :rofl: Getting serious again, apparently you have no problem driving your original wing car like a daily driver. If it gets wrecked, so what. If it costs $40,000-$60,000 to get it repaired, so what. You my friend, apparently have more money than I will ever have. And don't mention the 'I' word, insurance. They don't give policies with that kind of coverage away for nothing.
I recently returned from a 240 mile round trip in my mostly original paint Superbird. In the process, I verified that my GPS would roll over to three digits in the max speed department. Please do not confuse that with "driving it like a stolen car". I would never want to see my car get hurt. Nor am I a rich guy. In fact, most of the guys who own these cars are not wealthy.
My agreed value insurance on THREE collector cars costs me less than my daily driver used pickup truck.
My car is nice, but it is not a painting in a museum. I always try to be aware when I drive it. But I never go out wondering "what the heck is going to happen today?"
I'm not going to prolong this misery but to carry $60,000 of agreed value on my Superbird (yes, I have one) is right at $600/year through Hagerty. Considering I insure my used pickup truck for $165/year, I'd say those are widely different figures.
Look, I'm not suffering from paranoia, nor do I spend my days in bed with the covers pulled over my head. But I pride myself on being pragmatic. I still maintain that treating a wingcar with the same regard as a daily driver is foolish. It's not the value that's the question, it's the ability to recover from damage. A Ferrari costs more than any wing car but I would have no problem driving it like a rental simply because if something gets crumpled, there's a whole shelf of that part in the Ferrari organization. Where are you going to get the windshield deflectors, rear window medallions, rear window trim, etc. etc. if they get damaged or stolen? There's no part shelf at Chrysler any more with these parts.
You guys treat your cars the way you want and I'll treat mine the way I want and let's leave it at that.
I've got one that started like this in 1982 when I bought it,I don't have $10k in it including purchase price in and restoration so I guess I'm not out a whole lot should anything go wrong !! :shruggy:
I typed three replies and deleted them all, not in the mood for a fight. I will say that I don't understand the fascination with these things and the sky high prices.
QuoteI will say that I don't understand the fascination with these things and the sky high prices.
there's not many around and there a big part of automotive racing history . that can not be replaced .
Quote from: BigBlockSam on September 06, 2013, 03:44:13 PM
QuoteI will say that I don't understand the fascination with these things and the sky high prices.
there's not many around and there a big part of automotive racing history . that can not be replaced .
I do understand that part in a way, but I guess I'm not part of the 'save them and put them in a bubble' crowd. I would drive them.
The history means very little to me really. I've been playing with cars for a long time and I never could get into that whole marketing thing.
As long as you guys enjoy them! :2thumbs:
I have had my ' Bird clone now for 22 years. When my wife's car or my daily car dies, I drive the 'Bird becomes my daily driver. I have been driving my ' Bird everyday for the last 2 weeks now. OF course, I do sometimes get a little nervous driving it, but the "fun" factor outweighs the fear. Driving my daughter to school, going to the grocery story ( for quick few items) and so on. My favorite, however, is when I take the trash to the dump in it. You should see some of the guys faces ......... and hear their comments. My reply is "hey, it eats gas and insurance so it is gonna work some too!"
Just last Friday night, I got to meet Richard Petty and Dale Inman at a fund raiser. I opened the trunk and got both of them to sign the inside of the lid. How ironic that I had just picked up my daughter from school and hauled trash in it that very day. :smilielol:
(http://i960.photobucket.com/albums/ae81/myaerocars/PettyVisit2006_zps1d394666.png) (http://s960.photobucket.com/user/myaerocars/media/PettyVisit2006_zps1d394666.png.html)
Here he is signing it.
Here it is with the 43 's installed:
(http://i960.photobucket.com/albums/ae81/myaerocars/Superbird%20photos/PettyVisit002_zps46b5cd8c.jpg) (http://s960.photobucket.com/user/myaerocars/media/Superbird%20photos/PettyVisit002_zps46b5cd8c.jpg.html)
Godspeed,
JON
Quote from: BigBlockSam on September 06, 2013, 03:44:13 PM
QuoteI will say that I don't understand the fascination with these things and the sky high prices.
there's not many around and there a big part of automotive racing history . that can not be replaced .
I saw the real deals racing, back in the day. Very impressive, to say the least.... That did it for me.
two pages later, this might put the thread back on topic.
saw this new post on moparts, with a few more photos of the damage
http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=7848051&an=0&page=1&gonew=1#UNREAD
Ouch......again
Yeh, Im thinking that is going to be easily a $50K hit!
:(
Well, insurance should handle this, right?
Really sucks to see extensive damage like this to a Superbird. It won't be a cheap fix but I'd rather have this one fixed than one with rot holes large enough to crawl through in places the sun never sees. I'd be sick if it were mine but would probably still get it repaired.
Hey GotWing... How bad is your old nose cone ?
Jeez, that is just sickening. :puke:
Hopefully they are covered. Most classic car insurance companies are good to deal with under these circumstances. It's finding the parts that is tough. And, someone competent enough to perform the repairs.
As for driving/not driving these cars, I do believe they need to be driven every now & then. But, I can absolutely understand the "white knuckle" feeling sometimes driving these cars worrying about other drivers or having your vehicle damaged. No one wants to see their prized possession damaged, no matter what that item might be.
Here's the real deal on what happened, I was there when it did.
Bird was in the suiside lane getting ready to take a left into the gas station to turn around, light turned green and they were rolling into the travel lane, car came up the hill never saw the bird and smack...
The Bird is insured, Thank God.. We are resourcing parts from the mopar community who have all been a great help and trust me it looks a lot worse than it actually is..
I'm the shop who's going to be doing the work when we get all the parts lined up for it..
Anyone with anything at all please feel free to contact me direct. moparjoe440@comcast.net
Quote from: moparjoema on September 12, 2013, 07:24:37 AM
Hey GotWing... How bad is your old nose cone ?
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They always can be fixed parts time and $ .Wonder if Carl Swansons Goldie daytona ever got resurected
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,79635.msg895224/topicseen.html#msg895224
Agreed very fixable.... Interested in parting with it ?
And is it still complete or did you get an empty cone and use your guts in it ?..
Quote from: nascarxx29 on September 12, 2013, 10:58:03 AM
They always can be fixed parts time and $ .Wonder if Carl Swansons Goldie daytona ever got resurected
yes its complete
Quote from: moparjoema on September 12, 2013, 10:59:55 AM
Agreed very fixable.... Interested in parting with it ?
And is it still complete or did you get an empty cone and use your guts in it ?..
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Ok I hate to even ask but I gotta know cause I need one as you can see... :brickwall:...
Care to put a number on it for me......????
Oh Boy why is it i feel a massive headache coming on.. :scratchchin:
Can you either e mail me direct moparjoe440@comcast.net or give me your number and I'll give you a call so we can discuss it further.. That would be great.
Still dealing with the adjuster on a final repair figure and need a nose to be able to complete it...
Thanks.
1970 Coronet flat hoods can be converted for a superbird or just buy the hood extensions.Same goes for 70 Coronet fenders .The galvanized fender extensions come up on ebay nos here and there.The Z brackets Nose cone fender scoops and headlight buckets latch tray straight channels are available . light frames and grille pieces .Parking lights are 70 fury clear are in nos or aftermarket.Just to name a few unboltatle remove or replace items
It the unseen damage after the sheetmetal comes off to access rad support tweaked and inner fenderwheels door alighment roof crease etc.If any
Yep I know... Left rail has a 3 hour kink in it, left door has maybe 4 hours repair where the fender bounced off it. Core support is going to pull fine from what it looks like along with both inners once it comes back to the right where its supposed to be.
Radiator, fan and waterpump just because your in there. Right fender is repairable and I'm not banking on a left fender until after I pull it and see what the fender does.. been doing this stuff for 25 years so I got a pretty good handle on what should move once you start pulling it.. Didn't crack the windshield nor did it put a buckle in the roof or either qtr panel.. Doors still open and close and the gaps aren't all that bad.
Like I said it looks a lot worse than it actually is...
Quote from: bill440rt on September 12, 2013, 07:28:52 AM
Jeez, that is just sickening. :puke:
Hopefully they are covered. Most classic car insurance companies are good to deal with under these circumstances. It's finding the parts that is tough. And, someone competent enough to perform the repairs.
As for driving/not driving these cars, I do believe they need to be driven every now & then. But, I can absolutely understand the "white knuckle" feeling sometimes driving these cars worrying about other drivers or having your vehicle damaged. No one wants to see their prized possession damaged, no matter what that item might be.
How does this work with classic car insurance anyway? Do they specify which shop you have to go to, or do you pick your own? Who sources the parts? What sort of parts are required (repro, OEM, NOS)?
You choose your own shop.
The shop typically sources the parts and works with the adjuster.
The answer on what kind of parts is, "it all depends". Parts on a classic if not cost effective to repair will be "best available". May be NOS if cost effective. May be good used. May be aftermarket, like AMD.
Unrealistic priced NOS parts may push the cost of repair towards a total depending on the car and the agreed value.
Things gotta better better now for classic cars then pre 1980 .You had to get your car appraised by someone.And they went by the blue book value.I got my superbird back for $500.00.Avg loan retail in the blue book was 1500-2000 http://easyautodiagnostics.com/cavalier_sunfire_ignition/cavalier_sunfire_test_1.php
Quote from: Aero426 on September 12, 2013, 07:57:19 PM
You choose your own shop.
The shop typically sources the parts and works with the adjuster.
The answer on what kind of parts is, "it all depends". Parts on a classic if not cost effective to repair will be "best available". May be NOS if cost effective. May be good used. May be aftermarket, like AMD.
Unrealistic priced NOS parts may push the cost of repair towards a total depending on the car and the agreed value.
All I care is that these companies take care of us when we need them; I don't know why, but I don't trust these companies, be it Hagerty, Grundy, AAA or whatever. Maybe it's because I don't hear a lot of feedback when it comes to classic car claims and I've never seen these guys in action. Bottom line is, I hope the S-Bird's insurance treats their customer right...
what do you think the value is on my nose, you have seen the picture.. :icon_smile_wink:
Gotwing... I did see the pic posted.. Its the orange one with the damage on the center/left side correct... ?
Lets start the comversation this way...
Number 1. Are you actually willing to part with it ? Think I asked that yesterday.
Number 2. What the Value is on it may very well differ from what it is actually
worth in the real world.. Depends as you know on who's got it
where its located and how bad someone needs it...
I can only tell you how I have done business for 25+ years with this stuff because i don't like to insult people or make enemys and that does'nt mean I'm gonna low ball you on it.. You have it and I need it.. I do have a number in mind but I'm not selling it you are. You put a number on it and I'll either say yes or no or counter offer you.. Can't get much fairer than that I don't think..
Quote from: nascarxx29 on September 02, 2013, 03:35:58 PM
Trust me I know how he feels .I know first hand how a rear end of a superbird holds up after being rear ended by a truck in the 80-s.My old car 19K mile 6 pack 4 speed RM23VOA179697
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e67/75414/1970_SUPERBIRD_ORANGE_47.jpg)
Holy cow...such a rarity.....not that we knew bt it still be worth major bucks now in that condition.
Quote from: nascarxx29 on September 12, 2013, 10:58:03 AM
They always can be fixed parts time and $ .Wonder if Carl Swansons Goldie daytona ever got resurected
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,79635.msg895224/topicseen.html#msg895224
Yes Goldie has been fixed and Carl still drives her all the time. I can't say its better than it was before it was wrecked but it still looks good and the original nose was reused (it was sent out to a master metal man to be pounded back out and the metal guy did a fantastic job, Frank B's work is another story)
Glad to hear that car was made whole and put back on the road...
Awesome, another one saved.
Quote from: nascarxx29 on September 12, 2013, 11:33:29 PM
Things gotta better better now for classic cars then pre 1980 .You had to get your car appraised by someone.And they went by the blue book value.I got my superbird back for $500.00.Avg loan retail in the blue book was 1500-2000 http://easyautodiagnostics.com/cavalier_sunfire_ignition/cavalier_sunfire_test_1.php
I'm not sure what's more worthless here. The fact that you paid $500 for a car a million years ago OR the link to how you test a Cavalier ignition module.
In keeping with your post, here are the full lyrics to "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald:"
The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down
of the big lake they called "Gitche Gumee."
The lake, it is said, never gives up her dead
when the skies of November turn gloomy.
With a load of iron ore twenty-six thousand tons more
than the Edmund Fitzgerald weighed empty,
that good ship and true was a bone to be chewed
when the "Gales of November" came early.
The ship was the pride of the American side
coming back from some mill in Wisconsin.
As the big freighters go, it was bigger than most
with a crew and good captain well seasoned,
concluding some terms with a couple of steel firms
when they left fully loaded for Cleveland.
And later that night when the ship's bell rang,
could it be the north wind they'd been feelin'?
The wind in the wires made a tattle-tale sound
and a wave broke over the railing.
And ev'ry man knew, as the captain did too
'twas the witch of November come stealin'.
The dawn came late and the breakfast had to wait
when the Gales of November came slashin'.
When afternoon came it was freezin' rain
in the face of a hurricane west wind.
When suppertime came the old cook came on deck sayin'.
"Fellas, it's too rough t'feed ya."
At seven P.M. a main hatchway caved in; he said,
"Fellas, it's bin good t'know ya!"
The captain wired in he had water comin' in
and the good ship and crew was in peril.
And later that night when 'is lights went outta sight
came the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald.
Does any one know where the love of God goes
when the waves turn the minutes to hours?
The searchers all say they'd have made Whitefish Bay
if they'd put fifteen more miles behind 'er.
They might have split up or they might have capsized;
they may have broke deep and took water.
And all that remains is the faces and the names
of the wives and the sons and the daughters.
Lake Huron rolls, Superior sings
in the rooms of her ice-water mansion.
Old Michigan steams like a young man's dreams;
the islands and bays are for sportsmen.
And farther below Lake Ontario
takes in what Lake Erie can send her,
And the iron boats go as the mariners all know
with the Gales of November remembered.
In a musty old hall in Detroit they prayed,
in the "Maritime Sailors' Cathedral."
The church bell chimed 'til it rang twenty-nine times
for each man on the Edmund Fitzgerald.
The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down
of the big lake they call "Gitche Gumee."
"Superior," they said, "never gives up her dead
when the gales of November come early!"
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