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Title: Moog K7041 Idler arm failed with only 20 miles,
Post by: john108 on November 26, 2021, 07:39:24 PM
1968 Charger R/T
The front suspension was just about totally rebuilt.
I finally got the car where I can drive it to get the wheels aligned.
After the alignment, we noticed that the Idler Arm was real bad.
There is only 20 miles on the car since the restoration.
It is a Moog K7041 Idler arm.

WHAT IS A GOOD IDLER ARM?
They should not fall apart.
Thank you
John
Title: Re: Moog K7041 Idler arm failed with only 20 miles,
Post by: Kern Dog on November 26, 2021, 08:04:30 PM
I hope for your sake you didn't take the car to the Les Schwab near your house. The chain stores like them are often staffed by guys trained on newer cars with zero knowledge of the classics.
I take mine to Linville Brothers on El Camino.
With mostly stock parts, I was able to get 4 degrees of Positive caster, .75 degrees of NEGATIVE camber and 1/8" toe in. The car tracks straight, the tires wear normally but being as wide as mine are, they do tend to follow cracks in the road. My front tires are 275-40-18 ....a size wider than most rear tires people are using.
Offset upper control arm bushings are to be credited with getting the alignment where it is.
Title: Re: Moog K7041 Idler arm failed with only 20 miles,
Post by: john108 on November 26, 2021, 09:01:04 PM
Thanks but too late for the offset bushings.  I don't want to take that all apart.  I don't remember how we did it the first time.

Do you have a recommendation for a good Idler Arm, better that the Moog?
Title: Re: Moog K7041 Idler arm failed with only 20 miles,
Post by: Kern Dog on November 26, 2021, 09:08:50 PM
As a default, I'd call Firm Feel. Unfortunately, they won't be open until Monday.
Moog used to be THE go-to supplier but like so many other things, they went to the Chinese and from there, quality has taken a sharp drop off. A clean original may be a better option if you can find one.
Title: Re: Moog K7041 Idler arm failed with only 20 miles,
Post by: b5blue on November 26, 2021, 09:34:26 PM
Try "Proform". Others have rated them highly. (I use Moog with no issues.)
Title: Re: Moog K7041 Idler arm failed with only 20 miles,
Post by: HPP on November 30, 2021, 09:22:03 AM
Many suspension parts are a crap shoot. Buy another of whatever brand you want.  I've had brand names units fail, I've had off brand stuff last a long time. Put it in, inspect occasionally, drive away.
Title: Re: Moog K7041 Idler arm failed with only 20 miles,
Post by: John_Kunkel on November 30, 2021, 12:40:38 PM
I used to replace the rubber bushing with a ball bearing kit...can't seem to find any listed nowadays.  :shruggy:
Title: Re: Moog K7041 Idler arm failed with only 20 miles,
Post by: b5blue on November 30, 2021, 02:40:55 PM
Yea I bought an old style one off eBay hoping it would fit... no luck.
Title: Re: Moog K7041 Idler arm failed with only 20 miles,
Post by: John_Kunkel on December 03, 2021, 01:20:32 PM
Here's a typical ball bearing conversion kit, it's greaseable so will last just about forever and no deflection under stress.
Title: Re: Moog K7041 Idler arm failed with only 20 miles,
Post by: b5blue on December 03, 2021, 03:38:43 PM
Found it: http://www.firmfeel.com/a_body_mopar_idler_arm_bearing_kit_2.html
Title: Re: Moog K7041 Idler arm failed with only 20 miles,
Post by: John_Kunkel on December 05, 2021, 04:55:50 PM
Hmmm, that one has the Zerk in the arm (extra drilling/tapping) while the one I showed has the Zerk in the bolt. Either way, far superior to the rubber bushing.