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Title: How many column auto Daytonas came with no console nor buddy seat??
Post by: Mopar John on October 19, 2013, 09:28:28 AM
My two Daytonas are both column automatic cars. The one has what I thought was a rare buddy seat. I have verified about 5 of those now. But I got to thinking as to how many have no console nor a buddy seat? Just plain old carpet between the front bucket seats! If you know of one like this let me know.
Thanks! MJ
Title: Re: How many column auto Daytonas came with no console nor buddy seat??
Post by: hemi68charger on October 19, 2013, 09:34:23 AM
I thought all R/T, 500 or Daytonas that came as column autos would have had the buddy seat by default.... No?
Title: Re: How many column auto Daytonas came with no console nor buddy seat??
Post by: A383Wing on October 19, 2013, 09:59:48 AM
starting in 67, if you got auto on the column, buddy seat was extra cost option....I am unsure about the 68-70 cars...
Title: Re: How many column auto Daytonas came with no console nor buddy seat??
Post by: 69_500 on October 19, 2013, 10:50:44 AM
Not sure on auto's without both but have seen four speed cars that are floor shift just between buckets.
Title: Re: How many column auto Daytonas came with no console nor buddy seat??
Post by: hemi68charger on October 19, 2013, 11:02:47 AM
Quote from: 69_500 on October 19, 2013, 10:50:44 AM
Not sure on auto's without both but have seen four speed cars that are floor shift just between buckets.


That's true.... I know Brian had an R4 440 column auto as well........
Title: Re: How many column auto Daytonas came with no console nor buddy seat??
Post by: A383Wing on October 19, 2013, 01:59:02 PM
Quote from: 69_500 on October 19, 2013, 10:50:44 AM
Not sure on auto's without both but have seen four speed cars that are floor shift just between buckets.


that started in 67 also...

I have seen other "B" bodys  with just manual shifter and no console or buddy seat....but never a Daytona with a stand alone 4spd shifter.

have not seen any auto on column Daytona's without a buddy seat either
Title: Re: How many column auto Daytonas came with no console nor buddy seat??
Post by: nascarxx29 on October 19, 2013, 03:20:38 PM
I know of a original bucket seat silver daytona column C21 option car.That got changed to black
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e67/75414/Texasdaytona-1.jpg)  TheXX29l9B402971 black on red daytona when George H owned it
Title: Re: How many column auto Daytonas came with no console nor buddy seat??
Post by: C5X DAYTONA on October 20, 2013, 02:00:13 AM
My Daytona was a column shift automatic with no center seat.    Has the C5X which is black cloth inserts and the 6 way seat option.
Title: Re: How many column auto Daytonas came with no console nor buddy seat??
Post by: Mopar John on October 20, 2013, 07:55:53 PM
Thanks Sean! That makes at least two of this variety. Any more out there?
MJ
Title: Re: How many column auto Daytonas came with no console nor buddy seat??
Post by: C5X DAYTONA on October 21, 2013, 12:41:40 AM
Quote from: Mopar John on October 20, 2013, 07:55:53 PM
Thanks Sean! That makes at least two of this variety. Any more out there?
MJ
I have never flipped through my notes to check but yours is the only other one I know of like that.   
Title: Re: How many column auto Daytonas came with no console nor buddy seat??
Post by: nascarxx29 on October 21, 2013, 08:53:57 AM
This a buddy seat C21 69 daytona.As yet havent found another like yours but still looking

Here is a little more prior life history on this original A4 car that ended up last we know in NE on ebay .Here is when George H of Waynesburg PA owned it in the 90-s
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e67/75414/WING_CAR_ARTICLE_10.jpg)
Title: Re: How many column auto Daytonas came with no console nor buddy seat??
Post by: hemigeno on October 21, 2013, 10:35:00 AM
While it's not an auto, XX29J9B414639 (D21, V2 C6X !!!  :o  :drool5: ) had no buddy seat or console.  I'm not sure whether the car still exists or not, as it could be the one that Danny's (69_500) dad tried to swing a deal to trade a Boss 429 Mustang per the request of the owner at the time.  That one was destroyed in a fire.  Another member on the site knows much more about this deal than I, and perhaps he'll chime in.

410786 is another 4-speed w/ no C16 or C21, albeit a 440 car.  J9B414659 has similar options to the HemiDaytona referenced above (including no C16 or C21), but is a different car.  Cal Anderson's former T5 HemiDaytona is another 4-speed, no C16/C21 car.

Certainly not a common thing to see...

*EDIT*  Some UNOFFICIAL numbers to chew on...I found at least 30 cars specifically flagged as NOT having C16 (Console).  Out of those 30, 11 are known to have C21 (Buddy Seat).  Counting John's and Sean's cars, only 6 have confirmed fender tags with no C16 or C21 sales codes present... the rest?   :shruggy:
Title: Re: How many column auto Daytonas came with no console nor buddy seat??
Post by: learical1 on October 21, 2013, 08:22:00 PM
My old Charger 500, now owned by MoparChris, is a 4-speed no console or buddy seat.
Title: Re: How many column auto Daytonas came with no console nor buddy seat??
Post by: richRTSE on October 21, 2013, 10:54:21 PM
My friend Bill's F6 Daytona is a 440/4-speed with no console/buddy seat, and my T5 500 is a column shift car with no buddy seat...
Title: Re: How many column auto Daytonas came with no console nor buddy seat??
Post by: FJMG on October 21, 2013, 11:30:26 PM
Yup 639 had C23, also an A01 and A33 car. Actually I thought it was a twin to 659?  :shruggy:
Have to get c500 to chime in because I was sure that the car his dad looked was not "destroyed", but of course, I have been wrong before. :-\
Title: Re: How many column auto Daytonas came with no console nor buddy seat??
Post by: nascarxx29 on October 21, 2013, 11:34:52 PM
Larry Bells old 4 speed daytona no console or buddy seat
Title: Re: How many column auto Daytonas came with no console nor buddy seat??
Post by: held1823 on October 22, 2013, 08:07:54 AM
somewhere along the way, john's question about column shift automatics left the tracks...
Title: Re: How many column auto Daytonas came with no console nor buddy seat??
Post by: green69rt on October 22, 2013, 11:42:18 AM
My original 69 RT, that I bought new, was a 3 speed auto column shift with no seat or console.
Title: Re: How many column auto Daytonas came with no console nor buddy seat??
Post by: 69_500 on October 22, 2013, 04:17:33 PM
I guess you could say the car my dad looked at and tried to buy was not destroyed but it was for intense and purposes destroyed. Building it was in caught fire. Car did not burn but the brick/concrete wall it was parked next to collapsed on the car pretty much flattening it.

One of my dads Daytona's was an AT on column with buddy seat. He did not have any that were minus both the buddy seat and console. 409045 was the AT on column car R4 with red interior.
Title: Re: How many column auto Daytonas came with no console nor buddy seat??
Post by: winged69 on October 23, 2013, 12:58:28 AM
I might as well toss another one in to the fray. I have a Cdn car, buckets , no console, 4 spd with no options. I mean manual brakes drum brakes, no power steering, no remote mirror, no tinted glass, no radio. I have an interior light, the one in the headliner since no console or even map light by glovebox. Wheels were steelies with small hubcaps. No tach , but it does have a clock. now does anyone know of a less optioned car????
Title: Re: How many column auto Daytonas came with no console nor buddy seat??
Post by: A383Wing on October 23, 2013, 09:02:02 AM
Quote from: winged69 on October 23, 2013, 12:58:28 AM
I might as well toss another one in to the fray. I have a Cdn car, buckets , no console, 4 spd with no options. I mean manual brakes drum brakes, no power steering, no remote mirror, no tinted glass, no radio. I have an interior light, the one in the headliner since no console or even map light by glovebox. Wheels were steelies with small hubcaps. No tach , but it does have a clock. now does anyone know of a less optioned car????

yea, I do..it's a 66 Charger though...if Lee does not chime in with the car, I'll post up later
Title: Re: How many column auto Daytonas came with no console nor buddy seat??
Post by: Mopar John on October 23, 2013, 09:02:52 AM
Thanks for all the information and discussion on this topic! So far just 2 no C16 nor C21 column auto Daytonas! Here is another tidbit, Seans Daytonas vin is XX29L9B409048 and mine is XX29L9B409059! The vins on these two oddities are only 11 apart! The Daytonas were probably from the same batch and on the assembly line at the same time! There might be a little more to this? :scratchchin:
MJ
Title: Re: How many column auto Daytonas came with no console nor buddy seat??
Post by: hemigeno on October 23, 2013, 09:55:19 AM
John, the two cars you mentioned (yours and Sean's) are the only two column-shift Daytonas I know for sure have no buddy seat.  There are seven other automatic cars which reportedly don't have a console, but I don't have info on whether they have/had a buddy seat.  There could obviously still be other cars out there, but so far just the two.

:cheers: