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Title: Superbird PIT shot
Post by: XS29J on March 11, 2009, 06:13:39 PM
Page 23 of Hot Rod Shows Petty bird at the 1970 MOTOR TREND 500.
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Post by: maxwellwedge on March 11, 2009, 06:17:09 PM
Ah - The good old days of no pit road speed limit and guys dressed like fans working on the cars.
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Post by: Aero426 on March 11, 2009, 06:20:13 PM
Just over the wing next to the #17 Pearson crewman, the guy in the suit with is back to the camera is Ford stock car boss Charlie Gray.  He is talking to Pearson's crew chief and former driver Dick Hutcherson in the white shirt.    The Ford execs always wore suits at the races.

Just over the right fender is Petty crewman and Pete Hamilton crew chief Richie Barsz.   Prior to working for Richard, Richie went to Lemans with the Ford GT40 program.  Maurice is changing the left front, and the guy in the sunglasses is Dale Inman. 

(http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=54671.0;attach=95846;image)
Title: Re: Superbird PIT shot
Post by: 69_500 on March 11, 2009, 06:24:17 PM
Nice looking shot there. I like the RR sticker on the underside of the hood.

The more I see photo's like this it makes me think that I was definitely born 15 years too late.
Title: Re: Superbird PIT shot
Post by: Aero426 on March 11, 2009, 06:25:42 PM
Is this the current issue of Hot Rod?
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Post by: tan top on March 11, 2009, 06:32:37 PM
good picture  :yesnod: thanks for posting :2thumbs:
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Post by: XS29J on March 11, 2009, 06:53:26 PM
May 2009 issue
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Post by: 69bronzeT5 on March 11, 2009, 07:18:08 PM
Very cool picture! :yesnod:
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Post by: CornDogsCharger on March 11, 2009, 08:45:19 PM
I just got my issue in yesterday.  I love that shot.  The only thing I don't like is when they split the pages with the picture.  You can't ever scan them to where they look good unless you take apart the magazine.  Oh well, still a great shot!

Justin
"CornDog"
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Post by: Foreman72 on March 11, 2009, 08:47:07 PM
wow...have pitstops changed...musta taken like 15 min 2 service that car :lol:
Title: Re: Superbird PIT shot
Post by: XS29J on March 11, 2009, 09:16:33 PM
Check out how the wing is adjusted for the high speeds
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Post by: Ghoste on March 11, 2009, 09:21:34 PM
And the tread on the tire.
Title: Re: Superbird PIT shot
Post by: Aero426 on March 11, 2009, 10:21:54 PM
Quote from: XS29J on March 11, 2009, 09:16:33 PM
Check out how the wing is adjusted for the high speeds

Actually it is adjusted for LOW speeds.   That is a pretty steep angle.   You'd never see it like that at Daytona or Talladega.    You do get cookin' pretty good down the back straight at Riverside, probably in the 170's, but the rest of the track was fairly slow.    It was a great track.   Shame it's gone for a shopping mall and housing tracts. 
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Post by: moparstuart on March 12, 2009, 08:33:01 AM
love the look of the skinned hood , no structure what so ever .

awesome picture   :2thumbs:
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Post by: hemi68charger on March 12, 2009, 08:38:54 AM
Love the look of the pitcrew... Dude in the hat looks like he's ready to hit the pub after the race....  :icon_smile_big:
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Post by: 69_500 on March 12, 2009, 03:31:39 PM
Weren't their pit times still pretty impressive even back then? I was thinking it was somewhere around 45 seconds or so for a 4 tire stop?
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Post by: Ghoste on March 12, 2009, 03:33:39 PM
Yep, and I don't think they used the super trick ultra lightweight jacks and impact guns like today.  They had to hump the heavy stuff around.
Title: Re: Superbird PIT shot
Post by: nitrometal on March 12, 2009, 04:54:50 PM
Quote from: XS29J on March 11, 2009, 06:13:39 PM
Page 23 of Hot Rod Shows Petty bird at the 1970 MOTOR TREND 500.

Thanks XS29.  Just what I was looking for. Another shot for the collection!  What was the article about?  Is it worth picking up the magazine?
Title: Re: Superbird PIT shot
Post by: XS29J on March 12, 2009, 05:41:42 PM
Petty Ind. article
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Post by: CornDogsCharger on March 12, 2009, 08:06:22 PM
Here are a couple other pictures of Petty at Riverside from the same race.  I found them somewhere on the net but can't remember where.  Does anyone have any idea why the driver side door glass was rolled up?  And no window net??

Justin
"CornDog"

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y228/CornDog05/43dgrr70.jpg)

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y228/CornDog05/43cgrr70.jpg)
Title: Re: Superbird PIT shot
Post by: nitrometal on March 12, 2009, 08:57:19 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, the Riverside race had the fatality where the drivers head went through the side window and smacked the wall upon impact.  They started using window nets after that.  I don't know why the side window is rolled up.
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Post by: Ghoste on March 12, 2009, 10:49:20 PM
Weren't side windows frequently rolled up before France mandated they be lowered in an effort to disturb some of the aero cars speed?
Title: Re: Superbird PIT shot
Post by: learical1 on March 13, 2009, 12:24:28 AM
As I recall, Petty was the first to use the net, after he had the bad crash at Darlington in 1970.  Let me restate that, they weren't using nets before that, and a rule was passed to require some sort of retraint to keep a driver's arms inside the vehicle.  I believe Bobby Allison had a roll up metal mesh in place of glass for a while on the #22 Daytona.  Eventually, NASCAR settled on the net.
Title: Re: Superbird PIT shot
Post by: Aero426 on March 13, 2009, 09:04:27 AM
Quote from: nitrometal on March 12, 2009, 08:57:19 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, the Riverside race had the fatality where the drivers head went through the side window and smacked the wall upon impact.  They started using window nets after that.  I don't know why the side window is rolled up.

Joe Weatherly suffered this in 1964 at turn 6 in Bud Moore's car (photo).  Weatherly's crash has always been attributed to his head hitting the barrier, but since photos show no marks on his helmet, it most likely was basular skull fracture.   Also Billy Foster in Rudy Hoerr's Dodge had brake failure and hit the turn nine wall about 1968.    But the window restraint thing really started after Petty's Darlington wreck.      Side glass was legal until just after Baker's 200 mph Talladega run.   The day after the 200 run,  Chrysler tested the 88 car without side glass knowing the rule change was coming. 

Title: Re: Superbird PIT shot
Post by: Aero426 on March 13, 2009, 09:18:56 AM
I wonder if this is a practice shot compared the race.   Note that the car has a full front spoiler, where in the pit stop photo, the center of the spoiler has been trimmed away and removed.    Both photos are definitely from the January race. 

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y228/CornDog05/43dgrr70.jpg)
Title: Re: Superbird PIT shot
Post by: hemi68charger on March 13, 2009, 10:12:34 AM
Quote from: DougSchellinger on March 13, 2009, 09:18:56 AM
I wonder if this is a practice shot compared the race.   Note that the car has a full front spoiler, where in the pit stop photo, the center of the spoiler has been trimmed away and removed.    Both photos are definitely from the January race. 

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y228/CornDog05/43dgrr70.jpg)

The sponsor decals on the front driver's side black-n-white photo don't match the same fender on the colored Riverside photos. Notice there's a diamond-shaped decal (Goodyear?) between the UNION76 directly above the wheel-well opening/below the fender scoop and the rectangular PRESTONE decal.. Are my eyes deceiving me?

Troy
Title: Re: Superbird PIT shot
Post by: Aero426 on March 13, 2009, 11:25:06 AM
Quote from: hemi68charger on March 13, 2009, 10:12:34 AM


The sponsor decals on the front driver's side black-n-white photo don't match the same fender on the colored Riverside photos. Notice there's a diamond-shaped decal (Goodyear?) between the UNION76 directly above the wheel-well opening/below the fender scoop and the rectangular PRESTONE decal.. Are my eyes deceiving me?

Troy

I noticed that also.   To my eyes, the shadow outline of the Goodyear decal is there on the pit stop pic.   I think it's just the photo.   The thing is, neither photo can be from the June race because the headlight opening configuration on the nose was completely different.
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Post by: RTDaddy on March 13, 2009, 04:10:17 PM
Window nets were not required in Jan 70.  They came in after Richard's Darlington crash.  I think the 2nd Michgan race was the debut of the window net.  I also think the rear quarter widow is down for air ducted to the rear brakes.

"IF YOU'RE UNDER CONTROL, YOU AIN'T GOING FAST ENOUGH."
Title: Re: Superbird PIT shot
Post by: Aero426 on March 13, 2009, 05:06:40 PM
This is the June Riverside race and shows a window net.   This was the first big race after the first Michigan race and Richard's first race back after the Darlington wreck.

Is it me or does the rear wing look a little too far forward on the quarters?
Title: Re: Superbird PIT shot
Post by: CornDogsCharger on March 13, 2009, 10:23:13 PM
Nice photo.  The decals on the fender are completely different from the earlier race. 

Justin
"CornDog"
Title: Re: Superbird PIT shot
Post by: nitrometal on March 13, 2009, 11:56:08 PM
Quote from: CornDogsCharger on March 13, 2009, 10:23:13 PM
Nice photo.  The decals on the fender are completely different from the earlier race. 

Justin
"CornDog"

I worked on a very, very low budget ARCA  race team about 15 years ago  and I didn't realize it before then but each race required that we place the contingency decals on the front fenders at a different location at every race.  An official would always have a drawing where they wanted them that weekend.  I guess they bid on where they would be placed to give them more exposure from race to race.  It was a pain in the ass to change those decals every race and if you didn't have them in the proper spot they wouldn't pay off at the end of the race.  I don't know if they did that back in the 70's or even today but it sure took up a lot of my time.
Title: Re: Superbird PIT shot
Post by: rustafarian on March 14, 2009, 02:49:23 PM
"I wonder if this is a practice shot compared the race.   Note that the car has a full front spoiler, where in the pit stop photo, the center of the spoiler has been trimmed away and removed.    Both photos are definitely from the January race.  "



That's not a practice lap,  Pearson is right behind him!
Title: Re: Superbird PIT shot
Post by: CornDogsCharger on March 14, 2009, 03:05:03 PM
In the pitstop photo you can see the edge of the "P" of "Plymouth".  I wonder if it was ripped off during the race.  Would that happen to be some of it hanging below the car??

Justin
"CornDog"
Title: Re: Superbird PIT shot
Post by: CornDogsCharger on March 14, 2009, 03:23:51 PM
Here are a couple videos of Petty at Riverside.  First video is where the window net was in place.  The second video is from the same race where the pit photo was taken.  He must have broke something in this race.....  Sorry, no sound.

Justin
"CornDog"
June Race Footage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH07ELHkQHc

Motor Trend 500 Footage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6RqXrQh4l0
Title: Re: Superbird PIT shot
Post by: Aero426 on March 15, 2009, 10:08:03 AM
Quote from: rustafarian on March 14, 2009, 02:49:23 PM
"I wonder if this is a practice shot compared the race.   Note that the car has a full front spoiler, where in the pit stop photo, the center of the spoiler has been trimmed away and removed.    Both photos are definitely from the January race.  "



That's not a practice lap,  Pearson is right behind him!

Actually it is Parnelli Jones in the Wood Brothers #21.  Pearson was still driving the #17 Torino.   Jones put the 1970 Cyclone on the pole.   Due to a controversy regarding tires, he had to start in the back and came through the field like a hot knife through butter.     
Title: Re: Superbird PIT shot
Post by: nascarxx29 on March 16, 2009, 10:33:20 AM
I saw this neat pit shot there using a hammer on a superbird to repair fender

http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2673634060018226069HLeoVe

http://rides.webshots.com/album/557577068BmZJbC