This is Jeep1007 , hope you register and post here.
To all others , met this guy on Absolute Poker, he said he had 3 daytonas and a superbird back
when they weren't as valuable. I believe him as he immediately knew the daytona production number of 503.
Hope to see him show up here.
Yeah it was me on AP
I can still remember the vin on one of the Daytona's, XX29L9B410760. 2 of the Daytona's were Y-2, I believe the 3rd one was B-5 and the Hemi Charger 500 was F-8. I sort of knew Jim Radke and belonged to his club "winged warrior" along with the guy who painted his Daytona like Bobby Allisons Coca Cola car, have pics of it but can't remember his name. The picture is outside of Lou Whitfields house and it has Lou's Superbird, the Daytona, an AAR and my Challenger T/A. He had the long intakes on the Daytona from a letter car. I still have a bunch of the old newsletters from the winged warrior so could probably find his name again. Hopefully somewhere I still have movie film (yes way back) of us doing the parade lap at the old Riverside International Raceway with the wing cars for a Nascar race.
Welcome to the board :2thumbs:410760 shows selling new at Denis Dodge Turlock CA car #197 on daytona shipment list.Joe Machado had the daytona painted #22 red and gold .It was one of his many paint jobs.Lous superbird had the large 440 call outs on the hood
hello & welcome :cheers: ..would love to see some pictures :2thumbs: :popcrn:
wow. welcome! pics would be so awesome.
trav
I remembered Joe Machado's name last night. I heard his Daytona was used in a Spice girls video years back also. Anyone know if he still has it?
I will try and go through some old pictures and scan them.
I found Lou's Superbird on the side of the road one night, seems he was just "cruising" as Lou called it and passed a CHP that had someone stopped on the other side of this 2 lane road. Lou pointed the Superbird away from town at that point and would have been fine except a few miles ahead there was a train across the road and stopping from that speed took awhile. Once he got it stopped the engine had died and it was always hard to start ( 12.5 to 1, high lift cam, flowed heads, you know the typical Lou touches). By the time he got it started the CHP had finally caught up so end of that story. I talked to the CHP and he said ( exact words ) "he went by me so fast I couldn't even tell what color it was". Well Lou's Superbird was bright orange!!! Then there was the time Lou and Joe Slama were out by Palm Springs and he went so fast he had to force the headlight buckets down when he stopped, they were stuck open.
Joe Machado mounted a video camera between the front seats and filmed while driving fast. Our club went to Riverside International Raceway and raced the cars twice that I know of and he filmed while doing that. I will have to tell the story of Lou at Riverside some other time.
Joe did get his daytona back .The spice girl daytona was also his but it was a clone.And there is a video on you tube with dueling daytonas of the Machados
Quote from: hctub on January 09, 2009, 11:19:06 PM
Joe Machado mounted a video camera between the front seats and filmed while driving fast. Our club went to Riverside International Raceway and raced the cars twice that I know of and he filmed while doing that. I will have to tell the story of Lou at Riverside some other time.
I just transferred a VHS to DVD of Joe's shenanigans at Riverside and Willow Springs.
Lou is still around. He still has a Talladega
There wasn't by chance a blue and white Challenger T/A on his tape was there?
Here just some of Joes picture achives
http://www.superbird.com/pftjmc1.html
Quote from: hctub on January 10, 2009, 01:45:56 AM
There wasn't by chance a blue and white Challenger T/A on his tape was there?
Will take a look. I remember it was a VARA vintage event with Panteras, Ferraris, etc.
This is the only pic I have of the second Y2 yellow Daytona I had. This was before I owned it. Lou Whitfield and I went to Las Vegas so I could buy a wrecked Superbird. The guy had the Superbird and this Daytona with a 1968 frontend on it ( i remembered it as a 1969 but was mistaken). The Daytona went through a few more owners before I got it.
I will add pics of the Superbird when I find my photo album. I have seen pic's of what some of you consider "bad" cones but wait till you see this one and how it turned out. Colin Young was a wizard with metal.
Forgot to add, that is Lou Whitfields superbird in the background.
Hey HC, glad to see you here. Those are some very interesting stories. That's the kind of history we can't get enough of, including pics, as they are like mopar porn here.
good picture (hctub) thanks for posting ! those rear wheels gave it a real nascar look :coolgleamA: ...
I like the Minilites on the Superbird too.
Those were good days when we were able to drive these cars.
The LA county Corvette and Pantera clubs used to rent Riverside Raceway every year. They invited our club to join them twice that I was able to attend. For around $60.00 you were able to race your car around the racetrack as fast as you dared. The only rule was no passing in the corners. They had A, B, C and D class. A= race cars with experienced drivers, B= race cars with non expert drivers, C=modified cars with experienced drivers and D= street cars with novice drivers. We all fell in D class. You would race for 20 minute intervals but only against your class. I think we got in around 8 or so sessions in a day.
Lou Whitfields Superbird was not stock by any stretch of the imagination but he was in class D. Lou thought they announced class D but it was really class B, race cars with with non expert drivers. Lou went out with the class B guys and proceeded to pass the president of the Pantera club in his race pantera down the back straight. Here was this "street car" weighing several tons passing a race pantera. Needless to say, we weren't invited back the next year!!!
Here is a pic taken at Lou's house in May 1980. It has Joe Machado's Daytona, Colin Youngs AAR and my Challenger TA. On the extreme left you can see Lou's Talladaga.
Quote from: hctub on January 11, 2009, 01:18:19 AM
Lou Whitfields Superbird was not stock by any stretch of the imagination but he was in class D. Lou thought they announced class D but it was really class B, race cars with with non expert drivers. Lou went out with the class B guys and proceeded to pass the president of the Pantera club in his race pantera down the back straight. Here was this "street car" weighing several tons passing a race pantera. Needless to say, we weren't invited back the next year!!!
That's awesome! :lol:
:cheers:
Seems all you wing guys get to share some awesome stories
Quote from: hctub on January 11, 2009, 01:18:19 AM
Those were good days when we were able to drive these cars.
The LA county Corvette and Pantera clubs used to rent Riverside Raceway every year. They invited our club to join them twice that I was able to attend. For around $60.00 you were able to race your car around the racetrack as fast as you dared. The only rule was no passing in the corners. They had A, B, C and D class. A= race cars with experienced drivers, B= race cars with non expert drivers, C=modified cars with experienced drivers and D= street cars with novice drivers. We all fell in D class. You would race for 20 minute intervals but only against your class. I think we got in around 8 or so sessions in a day.
Lou Whitfields Superbird was not stock by any stretch of the imagination but he was in class D. Lou thought they announced class D but it was really class B, race cars with with non expert drivers. Lou went out with the class B guys and proceeded to pass the president of the Pantera club in his race pantera down the back straight. Here was this "street car" weighing several tons passing a race pantera. Needless to say, we weren't invited back the next year!!!
Here is a pic taken at Lou's house in May 1980. It has Joe Machado's Daytona, Colin Youngs AAR and my Challenger TA. On the extreme left you can see Lou's Talladaga.
awesome passed him on the back straight :coolgleamA:
thanks for sharing these storys , love reading about stuff like this :2thumbs: :cheers:
Yeah but at my age the stories get harder to remember.
Here are a couple pic's of Joe Machado's Daytona when he had the long runner Chrysler letter car intake on his car. He obviously wasn't afraid to try different things with his car either.
Do you still have the T/A?
Excuse my ignorance but can you elaborate a bit on the intake....gotta say it looks BAD A$$
Howd it do for power?
The intake was from a 300 G it came in a longram sytle or short.Thanks for sharing the archive retro pictures
I used to be a long distance truck driver and one trip through Indianapolis my brother in law spotted a Charger 500 sitting in a backyard next to the freeway. We searched for an hour in an 18 wheeler before we found the correct back yard. The 500 was REALLY RUSTY but while we were talking to the owner a Daytona pulled up. If I remember right, a radio station had owned it and painted it red, white and blue for some promotion they were doing. It actually was in pretty good shape (I think) except for the funky paint job. I can't remember the guys name in Indy but he was into the aero cars big time. At one time I thought it might have been Galen but I really can't remember. On my best day I am terrible with names.
No I don't have the TA anymore. I traded it decades ago for a Daytona with a Hemi in it, not an original Hemi car though. I had a Charger 500 with a 440 in it that was an original Hemi car so I switched the engines. The TA is one of those cars I really wish I had back. The TA and Daytonas were my favorites of all the cars I have owned although the 69 Charger RT that Lou Whitfield would come in a very close second to anything. It was a sweet car.
Maybe this is that radio station daytona known in this post as the Star Daytona you and your brotherinlaw seen .There was also a radio station superbird in a similar paint job .Romeo from supergo out of Tennesee
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,50760.0.html There are many names of Aero car people in the Indy area .If you recall any name or vins or prior historys on your old car .And want to see there at today .This board has alot of info
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e67/75414/starDaytona.jpg)
It looks like the same car. :yesnod:
The star Daytona belongs to a member here doesn't it. ;)
Troy
Quote from: Troy on January 11, 2009, 10:52:57 PM
The star Daytona belongs to a member here doesn't it. ;)
Troy
I don't know if Dave H. is a member here or not, but something tells me he will be soon... And he's already confirmed that the picture hctub posted is of his car - probably when Dave Jones owned it. Very cool picture, hctub!
That name sounds familiar. Did Dave Jones used to own a red Charger 500 with a black vinyl top? It was a Hemi 4 speed and I think it was owned by Jim Radke at one time. I happened to be in Indy in the late 70's early 80's on the weekend of the aero cars reunion. They did the parade lap at one of the local raceways (not the speedway) and I rode to the race in that car since I only had my truck there. I will post some pics of that reunion tonight. Seems like there was another national wing car club back then beside the "Winged Warrior".
The red hemi 500 was Pete haldimans of long Beach Ca .And then Dewayne Liebrants 69 500s dad
You do know your names and cars, I had forgotten about Pete and it was Liebrant for the guy who gave me the ride. Was DeWayne the kid back then? If so was he the one playing behind the grandstands and cut his arm open?
:shruggy: Good memory
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,6670.0.html
Quote from: hctub on January 12, 2009, 11:42:32 AM
You do know your names and cars, I had forgotten about Pete and it was Liebrant for the guy who gave me the ride. Was DeWayne the kid back then? If so was he the one playing behind the grandstands and cut his arm open?
"The kid" was almost certainly Danny, a/k/a "69_500" on this site. I'm sure he'll remember that event...
Hello Gene, Allen, Danny, Troy and everyone else that I don't know yet.
Well I am the Dave H. that Geno refers to occasionally. I am the guy who currently owns the "Star Daytona". I've enjoyed popping in from time to time to follow the thread on Gene's car, which I have a special interest in. But the picture last night that hctub posted of my car intrigued me and persuaded me I should join. So here I am. Anybody that knows any more information about this car I would sure be interested in talking to. I had not heard about the radio station connection before though. The guy you refer to would have been Dave Jones I'm sure, as he owned the car for a short time. Really liked the picture by the way hctub thanks for posting it.
Welcome to the site Davtona...No hissy, bitchy stuff here - just a bunch of dedicated, passionate enthusiasts ....Wait a sec - that was the 1-900 service....whoops! Seriously - there is a good bunch here.
Quote from: Davtona on January 12, 2009, 09:32:59 PM
Hello Gene, Allen, Danny, Troy and everyone else that I don't know yet.
Well I am the Dave H. that Geno refers to occasionally. I am the guy who currently owns the "Star Daytona". I've enjoyed popping in from time to time to follow the thread on Gene's car, which I have a special interest in. But the picture last night that hctub posted of my car intrigued me and persuaded me I should join. So here I am. Anybody that knows any more information about this car I would sure be interested in talking to. I had not heard about the radio station connection before though. The guy you refer to would have been Dave Jones I'm sure, as he owned the car for a short time. Really liked the picture by the way hctub thanks for posting it.
Hey Dave!!!
Glad to see you finally took the plunge and joined up. You're hardly a new guy to several of us - plus, if I can talk Cathy into letting you hit Carlisle and the 'Nats sometime, you'll meet even more of the gang.
Welcome to the board :2thumbs:
Dave, wasn't Don H. responsible for painting that wonderful paint scheme on the Star Daytona? I thought he and his wife still owned it then - which would sorta rule out a radio station connnection (unless one of them worked at a radio station?) :shruggy:
Quote from: hemigeno on January 12, 2009, 10:30:36 PM
Dave, wasn't Don H. responsible for painting that wonderful paint scheme on the Star Daytona? I thought he and his wife still owned it then - which would sorta rule out a radio station connnection (unless one of them worked at a radio station?) :shruggy:
Yes Don painted it with that color scheme Gene. But it was still Red White & Blue when Dave Jones had it though also. I am a little puzzled on the radio station thing my self. Possible though. What city was WKRP in? ;)
LOL, I have warned you guys about my memory!!! Who knows where my mind came up with the radio station thing.
Here are a couple of pics of the national meet that year. You should really have fun with these. You can definitely pick out Liebrant's 500. I had forgotten about the hub caps. Some nice person let me climb up on there motor home to take these pics. That may be Danny Liebrant just in front of his dad's car. I have some pics of them doing the parade lap but they are in my missing photo album, hope to find it soon. Have fun.
those are awesome pictures ...... vinyl top C500 :drool5: :coolgleamA:
Quote from: hemigeno on January 12, 2009, 09:57:09 PM
Quote from: Davtona on January 12, 2009, 09:32:59 PM
Hello Gene, Allen, Danny, Troy and everyone else that I don’t know yet.
Well I am the Dave H. that Geno refers to occasionally. I am the guy who currently owns the “Star Daytona”. I’ve enjoyed popping in from time to time to follow the thread on Gene’s car, which I have a special interest in. But the picture last night that hctub posted of my car intrigued me and persuaded me I should join. So here I am. Anybody that knows any more information about this car I would sure be interested in talking to. I had not heard about the radio station connection before though. The guy you refer to would have been Dave Jones I’m sure, as he owned the car for a short time. Really liked the picture by the way hctub thanks for posting it.
Hey Dave!!!
Glad to see you finally took the plunge and joined up. You're hardly a new guy to several of us - plus, if I can talk Cathy into letting you hit Carlisle and the 'Nats sometime, you'll meet even more of the gang.
Oh Gene Cathys not the problem with me going. Its me. If I went once I'd want to go all the time like Monster Mopar. One of these days I'll have a definite reason for going though. If ya know what I mean.
Good pictures thanks for sharing HCTUB. Also I ran across this Y2 S.E. daytona XX29L9B386543 that shows once as being Colin Youngs daytona .It was also this guys Kevin Spiccis
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25779.0.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,34607.msg378000/topicseen.html#msg378000
Colin Young was a friend of mine and I bought that Daytona from him. I was always under the impression it was the same one I had seen earlier in Vegas that belonged to the same guy I had bought a wrecked Superbird from. If that is is true, it is the one pictured early in this post. Lou Whitfield rode with me to Washington in my truck and we brought the Daytona back. It did have a nose on it at that time and I don't remember who had done the work. I later traded that Daytona to Lou for a 1969 Charger R/T. A very nice Charger I might add. Years later I sold the Charger to a guy that lived on an island in Alaska.
Isn't that the one that has the rad support with the weird stamping?
To be honest I don't remember. Back in those days the cars weren't that expensive so nobody would "fake" one so we didn't have to check all that. We just made sure the vin matched the pink slip so we could change it to our name at DMV. If it was the car I saw in Vegas years earlier it had the 68 Charger front end so there must have been some damage to the original front. I would imagine someone may have put the radiator support in to replace a damaged one. The numbers were probably re stamped to "verify" the car especially when they became worth so much money.
There is somebody out there who owns a F8 Charger 500 that would probably be real disappointed if I could remember the serial number of the one I owned. I had a call years ago where someone had researched the previous owners of the car, came up with my name and called me. Seems the present owner was passing it off as a 2 owner, numbers matching car. When I got the car it had a damaged front fender, tweaked inner fender and worst of all a 440 in place of the original Hemi. I found a 440 Daytona with a Hemi in it, traded for the car, switched engines and then sold the 440 Daytona.
Just remembered something to help track the 500 down. I am pretty sure the vin number was right next to the 500 that they used to drag race and they ran it on propane. Seems like it was called "Propane X" but I may be mistaken on the name.
Quote from: hctub on January 14, 2009, 12:13:44 PM
... I later traded that Daytona to Lou for a 1969 Charger R/T. A very nice Charger I might add..
See everyone !!!! There are people who would trade a Daytona for a Charger !!!!!! :boogie:
Oh, hctub, I'm the proverbial guy "trying-to-get-a-Daytona" and using my '68 Hemi Charger R/T as the Willie Wonka Golden Ticket to get it done...........
Nice to see you on the board...................
And yes everyone................ I'm going to ask................... Know anyone ELSE that wants to trade a Daytona for a nice, very nice when done, '68 Hemi Charger R/T?
:icon_smile_big:
You have to remember this trade was back in the early 1980's. I have a whole backyard of crap I would trade for a Daytona now!!! The Daytona and the TA are the ones I miss the most but a wife that wouldn't stop spending and then a divorce when I finally had enough of it took care of the cars.
:popcrn: :drool5:
Colin Young XX29L9B386543 daytona pictures .HCTUB this was the Y2 car that you also owned ?
http://www.trombinoscar.com/dodge/dg6911.html Early list has Hemi 69 500 in CA 138601 Tony Spencer Morgan Hill
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,10748.msg127182/topicseen.html#msg127182
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Propane X a red white stripe 69 charger 500 426 automatic car from NJ never registered with 12 miles on it XX29J9B110615 of SGT Deanna Broyles Wrightstown NJ .Tom Chamberlin is a local NJ racer and car builder.And is well known in our town
It must be. I bought the car from Colin, kept it for awhile and then traded it to Lou Whitfield. I was told by someone years ago that the car ended up overseas somewhere but it may have just been a rumor, I don't know. By the way, it didn't look like that when Colin, Lou and I owned it. It was also an SE or at least it had the badges on it.
As far as the Propane X, I am pretty sure the 500 I owned was 1 number away from the vin of the Propane car. I can't remember if it was higher or lower though. Mine was a F8 green car.
The Y2 daytona had A47 on the fender tag its a SE.Maybe can look up the F8 car if you have prior names
I have been gone for a few days but I'll chime in now that I"m here.
I don't know of any cars 1 digit after the propane X car as far as 500's go. And I don't have an SE 500 listed in the database until about 20,000 digits higher numerically. However there is a HEMI 500 that is 1 digit lower than the propane X car, which I'm still pretty certain is the car that Bud L thrased in his video back in the day. And that car most certainly isn't green, and it hasn't moved since the mid 70's so that rules that one out as well.
As far as the pictures of the meet in Indy. In the 2nd picture there is a boy and girl walking towards the back end of the Daytona in front of the HEMI 500 with the vinyl top and that would be me and my sister April.
Would that be Toby Hansens ol bird in front of the Daytona by chance? ;)
No the Daytona was an SE not the 500. I think it was Radke who told me the one digit vin number difference between my 500 and the Propane X but again that was many, many years ago and I have mentioned my memory before!!!
The 500 I had also came from the San Jose area supposedly although I got it from a guy in Colorado. I traded him a 1970 Challenger R/T convertible for it. We met in St. George Utah and made the swap.
I imagine the ride to the hospital was pretty fast in the 500. I do remember you hurt your arm pretty bad.
I think this photo was taken at Riverside Raceway but I can't remember for sure. It has from left to right, Joe Slama's green Daytona, my primer Daytona, Lou Whitfield's Tallagega, Joe Machado's Daytona and the white Daytona with the 69 frontend I can't remember who that was. I am almost certain the white car was a real Daytona.
Quote from: hctub on January 14, 2009, 10:03:43 PM
I think this photo was taken at Riverside Raceway but I can't remember for sure. It has from left to right, Joe Slama's green Daytona, my primer Daytona, Lou Whitfield's Tallagega, Joe Machado's Daytona and the white Daytona with the 69 frontend I can't remember who that was. I am almost certain the white car was a real Daytona.
The white Daytona is Vern Judy's car. Later, the nose grew back and it went to Bonneville.
(http://www.superbirdclub.com/files/vernjudy.jpg)
Quote from: Wildman on January 14, 2009, 10:01:08 PM
Would that be Toby Hansens ol bird in front of the Daytona by chance? ;)
That would indeed appear to be the "TV STAR" car.
Hmmmm, can't put a finger on what 500 it would be then. I can't even think of any really early F8 HEMI 500's. Earliest one is probably Vickies car, but I think it is numbers matching, but that it has been an east coast car for a very long time as well. Well now is in Wisconsin right?
I kinda thought it looked like my machine...Kinda thought I would see the next pic of him doing some big burnout or something crazy... :eek2:
Yep, that was the name! What do you mean by "TV star"?
Quote from: hctub on January 14, 2009, 11:57:58 PM
Yep, that was the name! What do you mean by "TV star"?
That was what was on his vanity plate.
I remember :drool5: and taking a picture of that awesome red Hemi C500 with the vinyl top at the Nats, I believe it was sometime back in the 80's. That one I would just love to have.
WINGR
Vern Judys white daytona.Which I think was for sale some time back on craigslist.also in this article it did say this car was wrecked in the front at one time
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/Annie75414/1969_DAYTONA_ARTICLE_01.jpg)
Quote from: Wildman on January 14, 2009, 10:01:08 PM
Would that be Toby Hansens ol bird in front of the Daytona by chance? ;)
that was a guy with an outsized personality, to say the least!
Yeah I remember him as being very outgoing. That is him in the background with something in his hands?
This is great, I throw a picture or anything else out here that I can't remember and you guys do it for me! I haven't been able to remember who owned that white car for years.
Quote from: WINGR on January 15, 2009, 12:54:11 AM
I remember :drool5: and taking a picture of that awesome red Hemi C500 with the vinyl top at the Nats, I believe it was sometime back in the 80's. That one I would just love to have.
WINGR
Steve if it was at the Nats it was the same car that my dad used to own. I haven't seen the car in probably 20 years now. I wanna see it again sometime, but have had a harder than heck time contacting the new owner.
Quote from: 69_500 on January 15, 2009, 06:41:03 PM
Quote from: WINGR on January 15, 2009, 12:54:11 AM
I remember :drool5: and taking a picture of that awesome red Hemi C500 with the vinyl top at the Nats, I believe it was sometime back in the 80's. That one I would just love to have.
WINGR
Steve if it was at the Nats it was the same car that my dad used to own. I haven't seen the car in probably 20 years now. I wanna see it again sometime, but have had a harder than heck time contacting the new owner.
Hey Danny, how are you doing? Hope you guys had a great holiday. Yes it had to be the same car because that is pretty much what it looked like. I am sure you guys miss that one, I would love to have that one. I do like the look better without the vinyl top but how rare it is with it. I have a picture somewhere, I'll see if I can dig it up and scan it in. Is it okay to post that picture on here or do I have to get the current owners permission.
Steve
I hope you don't have to have the current owners permission because I don't have any idea who owns these cars now.
Here's another pic of Lou's Superbird and Machado's Daytona. My TA and Colin's AAR are in the background.
I wouldn't think you'd need anyone's permission to post a picture of that car. Especially if you took it back in the 1980's. The only cars I won't post pictures of are ones that I've recently seen, or that I've been asked by the owner of the car to not post any pictures anywhere. And to those people I honor their wishes, which is hard sometimes because some of the cars are really neat ones.
Quote from: hctub on January 16, 2009, 12:57:38 AM
I hope you don't have to have the current owners permission because I don't have any idea who owns these cars now.
Here's another pic of Lou's Superbird and Machado's Daytona. My TA and Colin's AAR are in the background.
I really like those cordova/magnum wheels
Quote from: 69_500 on January 16, 2009, 04:39:40 PM
I wouldn't think you'd need anyone's permission to post a picture of that car. Especially if you took it back in the 1980's. The only cars I won't post pictures of are ones that I've recently seen, or that I've been asked by the owner of the car to not post any pictures anywhere. And to those people I honor their wishes, which is hard sometimes because some of the cars are really neat ones.
I agree in this hobby sometimes we do get to view neat cars .I had this chance sometime back to study the Supercharger record its vin / interesting details from its start as a 68 Charger to its transformation to Supercharger .
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/Annie75414/supercharger1.jpg)
THE Supercharger! Now that would be a very cool car to drive in!!
Speaking of the Supercharger, wasn't the work that was done to the car done by Totally Auto? And wasn't it on display there at Carlisle some time back?
When Raffi M.Who found the car in a estate auction out west. Owned the car and worked in PA. It was it Daves shop in PA for evaulation and seen some local exposure .Dave suggested leaving the aged paint as it was .It later was Steves and he had it on display at various shows .I went to NY to see it and the rest of the cars in the collection.Seen the memorabilia and 426 cut away engines .As seen on www.stevenjuliano .com .Which reminds 69 500 I have a printed out thread on a old post where you mentioned having or had a 426 Hemi cutaway engine.
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/Annie75414/supercharger2.jpg)
Archive pictures of the Supercharger
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/Annie75414/1970_SUPERCHARGER_04A.jpg)
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/Annie75414/1970_SUPERCHARGER_03A.jpg)
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/Annie75414/1970_SUPERCHARGER_02.jpg)
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/Annie75414/1970_SUPERCHARGER_01.jpg)
Key word there was "had". Got rid of it to years ago, well not that many years ago but it was before I picked up the 500. It didn't work, or at least I couldn't get it to work, not sure if its back to working condition now or not.
Finally found my photo album!!!
This picture is when our wing club was invited to race at Riverside International Raceway one year. I explained in an earlier post the rules.
I am leading Lou Whitfield down the back straight at least for awhile. This was about half way down the straight and Lou's bird was just getting wound up. Needless to say he flew past me right after the pic was taken. The TA was great around the corners but Lou's bird would fly down the straights.
Man, this is one of the coolest threads I've read through here in quite a while. HCtub, thanks for joining the site, sharing all the cool stories & especially for including these neat pics! :cheers:
I don't know if there is a post on here of the worst damaged nose to be brought back to life or not so here goes.
I bought a Superbird from a guy in Las Vegas that had been in an accident. I think he said he had it parked at a casino and when he came out he found it like this. Lou Whitfield took me over to Vegas in his Bird. On the way back a guy in a Camaro decided to pick on the damaged bird and wanted to race. Even with the nose looking like this I had no problem getting him on top end.
I parked the Bird in my driveway where you could see it from the living room. Lou and Colin Young were there visiting and Colin kept looking at the bird with the damage. After awhile Colin went into one of his trances and started mumbling "metal has memory, metal has memory". A short time later we had the nose off the car and Colin went to work on it.
Ouch...I moreless commented to keep tract of this cool thread. Continue on gents :2thumbs:
Time from time I had seen on here some busted up noses.It still makes me cringe .I probably have the record for the worst superbird rear end damage check out the OUCH superbird that was mine
http://www.carsinbarns.com/Superbirds%20&%20Daytonas/pg21.html
Man, those pics make me cringe! :eek2:
So how did the nose cone turn out once completed?
Here are some more pic's of the nose being worked on.
wow nice job saving that one metal does have memory
Quote from: moparstuart on January 31, 2009, 12:59:31 PM
wow nice job saving that one
:iagree: that metal guy knows his stuff :yesnod:
We ended up saving everything except the fiberglass headlight door. Luckily someone was reproducing them at the time. We even saved the parking light frames. It did have some bondo in it but not as much as you might think.
Here are some of the final pics. The car was from New Jersey and the rest of it had more bondo than the nose. This was about 1979 and the trunk was already rusted all the way out and had a thick metal cover on the bottom.
Love the classic slot mags this baby is riding on. :icon_smile_big: :drool5:
(http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=52395.0;attach=91262;image)
There are some really cool cars and really cool stories in this thread. Thanks for posting them all hctub! :pity: :2thumbs: :coolgleamA: :coolgleamA: :coolgleamA:
Quote from: hctub on January 31, 2009, 03:30:18 PM
We ended up saving everything except the fiberglass headlight door. Luckily someone was reproducing them at the time. We even saved the parking light frames. It did have some bondo in it but not as much as you might think.
Here are some of the final pics. The car was from New Jersey and the rest of it had more bondo than the nose. This was about 1979 and the trunk was already rusted all the way out and had a thick metal cover on the bottom.
mine was full of bondo when i got it but it straightened out really well
it needed quite a bit of straightening also the piot of the nose was blunted where it should have come to a point
:drool5:
That Superbird was from NJ thats my area ..What part of NJ was it from
I don't remember, only that it was a New Jersey car.
Quote from: WingCharger on January 31, 2009, 03:42:33 PM
Love the classic slot mags this baby is riding on. :icon_smile_big: :drool5:
(http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=52395.0;attach=91262;image)
There are some really cool cars and really cool stories in this thread. Thanks for posting them all hctub! :pity: :2thumbs: :coolgleamA: :coolgleamA: :coolgleamA:
always liked that type of slot mag wheels , think they are made of steal & nick named kidny bean wheels ..would not mind getting a set :yesnod:
Slots are the only "classic" wheel I like. Never been a fan of Cragars or Keystones. :cheers:
New Slots are too "thick" I guess is the way to put it. I like the deep dish look. :2thumbs:
Quote from: tan top on January 31, 2009, 07:16:20 PM
Quote from: WingCharger on January 31, 2009, 03:42:33 PM
Love the classic slot mags this baby is riding on. :icon_smile_big: :drool5:
(http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=52395.0;attach=91262;image)
There are some really cool cars and really cool stories in this thread. Thanks for posting them all hctub! :pity: :2thumbs: :coolgleamA: :coolgleamA: :coolgleamA:
always liked that type of slot mag wheels , think they are made of steal & nick named kidny bean wheels ..would not mind getting a set :yesnod:
I'm really not sure where those wheels came from actually. They were on the car when I bought it back in say 1980 or so. I was never all that fond of them. Ran them on the car for a while then pulled them off and put a set of aluminum slots on the car. I think I have at least 2 of those wheels still sitting around somewhere. Car is original dog dish hubcap car which were long gone by the time I got it. And yes they are a steel wheel.
Quote from: Davtona on January 31, 2009, 07:32:00 PM
Quote from: tan top on January 31, 2009, 07:16:20 PM
Quote from: WingCharger on January 31, 2009, 03:42:33 PM
Love the classic slot mags this baby is riding on. :icon_smile_big: :drool5:
(http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=52395.0;attach=91262;image)
There are some really cool cars and really cool stories in this thread. Thanks for posting them all hctub! :pity: :2thumbs: :coolgleamA: :coolgleamA: :coolgleamA:
always liked that type of slot mag wheels , think they are made of steal & nick named kidny bean wheels ..would not mind getting a set :yesnod:
I'm really not sure where those wheels came from actually. They were on the car when I bought it back in say 1980 or so. I was never all that fond of them. Ran them on the car for a while then pulled them off and put a set of aluminum slots on the car. I think I have at least 2 of those wheels still sitting around somewhere. Car is original dog dish hubcap car which were long gone by the time I got it. And yes they are a steel wheel.
The two wheels you have, rear or front?? :icon_smile_question:
Ar they 15x10 or what? :popcrn: :popcrn: :drool5:
I'm not sure? :icon_smile_question: Its been a while since I paid any attention to them. I could check I guess. They are fairly wide though.
My car had those same rims when I first got it...hated them. They would have been much better if chrome wasn't complete crap. :P I think someone used the "redneck chrome polish" on them at one time...steel wool. :rotz:
You can sorta see them here.
(http://i.onfinite.com/km6Zdy8s.jpg)
Sorry for adding to the thread hijack.
Quote from: Charger_Fan on February 01, 2009, 01:05:26 PM
My car had those same rims when I first got it...hated them. They would have been much better if chrome wasn't complete crap. :P I think someone used the "redneck chrome polish" on them at one time...steel wool. :rotz:
You can sorta see them here.
(http://onfinite.com/libraries/714118/c3c.jpg)
Sorry for adding to the thread hijack.
yeah always liked them though , look like the old grand national stock car wheels .... :drool5:
Quote from: Charger_Fan on February 01, 2009, 01:05:26 PM
My car had those same rims when I first got it...hated them. They would have been much better if chrome wasn't complete crap. :P I think someone used the "redneck chrome polish" on them at one time...steel wool. :rotz:
You can sorta see them here.
(http://onfinite.com/libraries/714118/c3c.jpg)
Sorry for adding to the thread hijack.
Don't be hatin on the Slot Mags! :2guns: :fu:
I like having a wide (15x10) Slot in the back but a wide front tire? :eek2:
I also like the old Torque Thrust D's, but only on red '66-'67 B-Bodies and red '65 C-Bodies.
(Yeah, I have it all figured out. :icon_smile_big:)
Here are some pic's of the Charger 500 I owned years ago. I traded a 1970 Challenger RT convertible for it. The Challenger was loaded with just about everything except the bigger engine, it had the 383 Magnum. The 500 was owned by a guy in Colorado. We agreed on the deal and met half way in St. George Utah to swap cars. The 500 had been slid sideways into a street sign so the passenger front fender, inner fender and bumper were all bent. The windshield was broken and the power booster didn't work.
The first pic is when I got it home. It was a Hemi car but had a 440 in it. I then traded a 1970 Challenger TA for a 440 Daytona that had a Hemi in it. I switched the engines to make the cars right and sold the Daytona. The 500 hung around for years but unfortunately was never finished. The Daytona was a 4 speed - 8 3/4 and the 500 was an automatic-dana car.
Couple more of the 500
I'm guessing those last shots are of when you sold it? Looks like it had a few spiders living in it by then. ;D
No I actually had it several more years before selling it. I had a whole backyard full of mopars and just never got to the 500. Kick myself now of course.
Quote from: hctub on February 05, 2009, 09:30:09 AM
No I actually had it several more years before selling it. I had a whole backyard full of mopars and just never got to the 500. Kick myself now of course.
intresting pictures :yesnod: ..has it been restored now ?
I heard that it is restored now. Years ago I got a call from a guy that had researched the previous owners of the car and came up with my name. He was looking at it to buy and the owner was telling him it was a numbers matching, low mileage car. I think the asking price was around $58,000 then but that was probably 6 to 8 years ago, I really can't remember for sure. Of course if he had bought it for that amount he would be pleased now. He said it was a real nice restoration.
Can't think of that many HEMI 500' changing hands lately in the last 6-8 years anyways that were in need of a restoration and then being completed. Other than Carls car but I don't think that is the same one.
Did the car have a white tail stripe? Appears to be some white in the marker light hole in one photo.
I bought that car (Carl's) off Fred McNally - Fred had it since the 70's.
It may have been more like 10 years ago, I really don't remember. I am still pretty sure it was one serial number away from the old Propane X car. The car didn't have a tail stripe when I had it so I can't answer the question of color.
I JUST FOUND AN OLD REGISTRATION FOR THE HEMI 500!!!!!!
I don't know who keeps the records for these cars now but please forward it on and have him contact me. The registration I have is from 1979.
Quote from: hctub on February 05, 2009, 10:19:27 PM
I don't know who keeps the records for these cars now but please forward it on and have him contact me. The registration I have is from 1979.
Danny (69_500) is the guy on C500's. :bow:
Chris (NOT Just 6T9 CHGR) also operates the 1969 Charger Registry (http://www.1969chargerregistry.com) and would appreciate any info you could share on the car as well.
If thats the Mc Nally car its 133981.I read somewhere that Fred Mc Nally had a dealership in MI. So HCTUB used to own it before Maxwellwedge.And its this car.Also Maxwellwedge had Freds old daytona.I stumbled across a black painted superbird RM23VOA179726 of Fred Mc Nallys http://www.tntclassiccars.com/1970%20PLYMOUTH%20ROADRUNNER%20SUPERBIRD.htm
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,27361.msg299429/topicseen.html#msg299429
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,40377.0.html
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Quote from: nascarxx29 on February 06, 2009, 10:54:46 AM
If thats the Mc Nally car its 133981.I read somewhere that Fred Mc Nally had a dealership in MI. So HCTUB used to own it before Maxwellwedge.And its this car.Also Maxwellwedge had Freds old daytona.I stumbled across a black painted superbird RM23VOA179726 of Fred Mc Nallys http://www.tntclassiccars.com/1970%20PLYMOUTH%20ROADRUNNER%20SUPERBIRD.htm
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,27361.msg299429/topicseen.html#msg299429
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,40377.0.html
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I don't think it's the same car - Fred had it since the 70's until I bought it from him - along with the white 4-speed 'Tona (which is in Quebec with a red gut and a Hemi). The 6-BBL bird was painted black but was originally orange IIRC. Good memory you have there though.
No my old car was a later serial number.
Got to to be another green hemi 500 outhere.Being its not that one.
Dont even think we had this hemi 500 identified yet (http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e67/75414/Barn.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e67/75414/hemi.jpg)
Or maybe this one either
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/Annie75414/WING_CAR_GROUP_034.jpg)
Dave, That looks like a Dave Jones plate and 500. He had the 4 vanity plates on his collection in the 70's & 80's. "DODGE" "HEMI" "CHARGER" "DAYTONA" Kinda sucked as I tried to get 3 of these and had to settle for HEMI68 back in the day...............
Steve
Yeah the green HEMI 500 next to the Black Daytona is Dave Jones old car 100% positive on that one.
HCTUB I'll be giving you a call probably this evening about the car if ya don't mind.
That will be fine. I don't get good cell reception at home so if I don't answer leave a message and I will call back.
Thought you might find this interesting.
This car was for sale up in the Idaho or Montana years and years ago. I wanted a 500 and don't remember how I got this guys number but he sent me the pic. The car was too much money at the time and too far for me to go get it.
I know you eagle eyes out there will notice the SE emblems.
Quote from: hctub on February 08, 2009, 12:24:45 PM
Thought you might find this interesting.
This car was for sale up in the Idaho or Montana years and years ago. I wanted a 500 and don't remember how I got this guys number but he sent me the pic. The car was too much money at the time and too far for me to go get it.
I know you eagle eyes out there will notice the SE emblems.
good picture :yesnod: :scope: stripe color side marker reflector housing's :scratchchin: :popcrn:
Quote from: tan top on February 08, 2009, 12:52:40 PM
Quote from: hctub on February 08, 2009, 12:24:45 PM
Thought you might find this interesting.
This car was for sale up in the Idaho or Montana years and years ago. I wanted a 500 and don't remember how I got this guys number but he sent me the pic. The car was too much money at the time and too far for me to go get it.
I know you eagle eyes out there will notice the SE emblems.
good picture :yesnod: :scope: stripe color side marker reflector housing's :scratchchin: :popcrn:
Yes, but that is defiantly not the factory stripe. :yesnod:
Another 500 with Dart GTS style wheel covers! :cheers: :cheers:
Looks like factory paint so probably a good argument that it was a stripe delete car? This was around 1979 or 1980 and look at the rust already around the rear wheel opening.
Quote from: WingCharger on February 08, 2009, 12:54:47 PM
Quote from: tan top on February 08, 2009, 12:52:40 PM
Quote from: hctub on February 08, 2009, 12:24:45 PM
Thought you might find this interesting.
This car was for sale up in the Idaho or Montana years and years ago. I wanted a 500 and don't remember how I got this guys number but he sent me the pic. The car was too much money at the time and too far for me to go get it.
I know you eagle eyes out there will notice the SE emblems.
good picture :yesnod: :scope: stripe color side marker reflector housing's :scratchchin: :popcrn:
Yes, but that is defiantly not the factory stripe. :yesnod:
Another 500 with Dart GTS style wheel covers! :cheers: :cheers:
thats a good point , never noticed that :rotz: not a factory stripe
Quote from: hctub on February 08, 2009, 01:25:25 PM
Looks like factory paint so probably a good argument that it was a stripe delete car? This was around 1979 or 1980 and look at the rust already around the rear wheel opening.
yeah could well be factory paint , think there has been a thread / debate about stripe delete on a C500 ...... :popcrn: :popcrn:
Quote from: tan top on February 08, 2009, 01:35:04 PM
Quote from: WingCharger on February 08, 2009, 12:54:47 PM
Quote from: tan top on February 08, 2009, 12:52:40 PM
Quote from: hctub on February 08, 2009, 12:24:45 PM
Thought you might find this interesting.
This car was for sale up in the Idaho or Montana years and years ago. I wanted a 500 and don't remember how I got this guys number but he sent me the pic. The car was too much money at the time and too far for me to go get it.
I know you eagle eyes out there will notice the SE emblems.
good picture :yesnod: :scope: stripe color side marker reflector housing's :scratchchin: :popcrn:
Yes, but that is defiantly not the factory stripe. :yesnod:
Another 500 with Dart GTS style wheel covers! :cheers: :cheers:
thats a good point , never noticed that :rotz: not a factory stripe
Quote from: hctub on February 08, 2009, 01:25:25 PM
Looks like factory paint so probably a good argument that it was a stripe delete car? This was around 1979 or 1980 and look at the rust already around the rear wheel opening.
yeah could well be factory paint , think there has been a thread / debate about stripe delete on a C500 ...... :popcrn: :popcrn:
I started that thread. :icon_smile_big:
All 500's and Daytona's were coded for stripe delete, but they all had their unique Stripes on the tail end. Creative put them on. You couldn't get one with a emblem or anything, there was always a stripe. :yesnod:
Quote from: WingCharger on February 08, 2009, 01:49:50 PM
Quote from: tan top on February 08, 2009, 01:35:04 PM
Quote from: WingCharger on February 08, 2009, 12:54:47 PM
Quote from: tan top on February 08, 2009, 12:52:40 PM
Quote from: hctub on February 08, 2009, 12:24:45 PM
Thought you might find this interesting.
This car was for sale up in the Idaho or Montana years and years ago. I wanted a 500 and don't remember how I got this guys number but he sent me the pic. The car was too much money at the time and too far for me to go get it.
I know you eagle eyes out there will notice the SE emblems.
good picture :yesnod: :scope: stripe color side marker reflector housing's :scratchchin: :popcrn:
Yes, but that is defiantly not the factory stripe. :yesnod:
Another 500 with Dart GTS style wheel covers! :cheers: :cheers:
thats a good point , never noticed that :rotz: not a factory stripe
Quote from: hctub on February 08, 2009, 01:25:25 PM
Looks like factory paint so probably a good argument that it was a stripe delete car? This was around 1979 or 1980 and look at the rust already around the rear wheel opening.
yeah could well be factory paint , think there has been a thread / debate about stripe delete on a C500 ...... :popcrn: :popcrn:
I started that thread. :icon_smile_big:
All 500's and Daytona's were coded for stripe delete, but they all had their unique Stripes on the tail end. Creative put them on. You couldn't get one with a emblem or anything, there was always a stripe. :yesnod:
:yesnod: yep :iagree: :2thumbs:
but ..i'm thinking of a thread 2 or 3 years ago i think :scratchchin: :popcrn:
Ha, just realized I put a pic of the Daytona nose in a thread about the Superbird!!! Here is another pic that shows the finished nose of the bird.
Quote from: hctub on January 31, 2009, 03:30:18 PM
We ended up saving everything except the fiberglass headlight door. Luckily someone was reproducing them at the time. We even saved the parking light frames. It did have some bondo in it but not as much as you might think.
Here are some of the final pics. The car was from New Jersey and the rest of it had more bondo than the nose. This was about 1979 and the trunk was already rusted all the way out and had a thick metal cover on the bottom.
I don't know if you guys would like to see them or not but I have pic's from a 1980 National meet in Baltimore for all the aero cars which included the Talladega and Cyclone II. It is the pic's they sold in the album for the event so it has pics of cars and people too although I didn't scan the people pics unless someone wants to see them.
Quote from: hctub on February 08, 2009, 07:12:06 PM
I don't know if you guys would like to see them or not but I have pic's from a 1980 National meet in Baltimore for all the aero cars which included the Talladega and Cyclone II. It is the pic's they sold in the album for the event so it has pics of cars and people too although I didn't scan the people pics unless someone wants to see them.
sure I would like to see them all
Quote from: moparstuart on February 08, 2009, 07:28:10 PM
Quote from: hctub on February 08, 2009, 07:12:06 PM
I don't know if you guys would like to see them or not but I have pic's from a 1980 National meet in Baltimore for all the aero cars which included the Talladega and Cyclone II. It is the pic's they sold in the album for the event so it has pics of cars and people too although I didn't scan the people pics unless someone wants to see them.
sure I would like to see them all
yes please would love to see them :cheers: .................... :popcrn:
Oh yes more pictures please :2thumbs: :2thumbs:.This is a 2 part old post think some of it had Batimore meet pictures
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,26508.0.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,26985.0.html
Nice picture of the B5 blue SE 500. That car recently was purchased by a gentleman here on the board. And oddly enough the broadcast sheet to that car was in another board members 500 which he purchased brand new. Small world when it comes to these cars.
Side note HCTUB, did you get the link to the other thread I sent you?
Quote from: 69_500 on February 09, 2009, 09:41:42 PM
Side note HCTUB, did you get the link to the other thread I sent you?
Thank you I did get the thread. That is definitely my old car but in way better condition than when I owned it.
I will try to ad some more pics of the 1980 Baltimore meet this evening.
This is Wayne Perkins car.
Quote from: hctub on February 10, 2009, 10:10:35 AM
Quote from: 69_500 on February 09, 2009, 09:41:42 PM
Side note HCTUB, did you get the link to the other thread I sent you?
Thank you I did get the thread. That is definitely my old car but in way better condition than when I owned it.
I will try to ad some more pics of the 1980 Baltimore meet this evening.
This is Wayne Perkins car.
so where is your old car now ? :shruggy:
Quote from: moparstuart on February 10, 2009, 10:49:19 AM
Quote from: hctub on February 10, 2009, 10:10:35 AM
Quote from: 69_500 on February 09, 2009, 09:41:42 PM
Side note HCTUB, did you get the link to the other thread I sent you?
Thank you I did get the thread. That is definitely my old car but in way better condition than when I owned it.
I will try to ad some more pics of the 1980 Baltimore meet this evening.
This is Wayne Perkins car.
so where is your old car now ? :shruggy:
From what I hear my old car now lives in Florida.
Picture from the 1980 Baltimore meet.
Quote from: hctub on February 08, 2009, 12:24:45 PM
Thought you might find this interesting.
This car was for sale up in the Idaho or Montana years and years ago. I wanted a 500 and don't remember how I got this guys number but he sent me the pic. The car was too much money at the time and too far for me to go get it.
I know you eagle eyes out there will notice the SE emblems.
Do you remember the interior colour on that one?
No I don't remember the interior color. I just remember what you can see in the pic and when he told me it was rusty I wasn't very interested. Oh how times change!!!
Quote from: 69bronzeT5 on February 11, 2009, 09:40:32 PM
Quote from: hctub on February 08, 2009, 12:24:45 PM
Thought you might find this interesting.
This car was for sale up in the Idaho or Montana years and years ago. I wanted a 500 and don't remember how I got this guys number but he sent me the pic. The car was too much money at the time and too far for me to go get it.
I know you eagle eyes out there will notice the SE emblems.
Do you remember the interior colour on that one?
I'm just wondering because here in British Columbia, theres a guy by the name of Gordon (I think?) who shows a B5 Blue '69 C500 SE with a white stripe and blue interior.
There can't be too many of those so chances are pretty good its the same one.
Quote from: 69bronzeT5 on February 11, 2009, 09:53:41 PM
I'm just wondering because here in British Columbia, theres a guy by the name of Gordon (I think?) who shows a B5 Blue '69 C500 SE with a white stripe and blue interior.
Quote from: hctub on February 11, 2009, 09:18:29 PM
Picture from the 1980 Baltimore meet.
any more pics from this meet? we were there--
Quote from: hctub on February 11, 2009, 10:25:59 PM
There can't be too many of those so chances are pretty good its the same one.
Quote from: 69bronzeT5 on February 11, 2009, 09:53:41 PM
I'm just wondering because here in British Columbia, theres a guy by the name of Gordon (I think?) who shows a B5 Blue '69 C500 SE with a white stripe and blue interior.
:cheers:
Did you have a car there and whats your name? I do have a group photo of those that attended but the file is to large to load here.
Anyone know how to shrink the file?
Quote from: pettybird on February 11, 2009, 10:33:59 PM
Quote from: hctub on February 11, 2009, 09:18:29 PM
Picture from the 1980 Baltimore meet.
any more pics from this meet? we were there--
BEAUTIFUL blue Charger 500!!! Striking color and car.
Quote from: hctub on February 12, 2009, 11:22:43 AM
Did you have a car there and whats your name? I do have a group photo of those that attended but the file is to large to load here.
Anyone know how to shrink the file?
I don't think we were in the group photo...i'm not sure, though. It would have been Rick and Carol Croxford (I doubt 5 year old me would have been listed.)
send me the photo at charger4sp@aol.com and I can resize it for you
Baltimore 1980
Tom Hayden's car
1980 Baltimore
Tim Wellborn, voted best Daytona non-stock
Quote from: hctub on February 13, 2009, 09:29:52 AM
Baltimore 1980
Tom Hayden's car
that blue bird is HOT!!!
HCTUB my friend bought Tom Haydens superbird.Tom passed away and also sold his daytona
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,50778.msg560422/topicseen.html#msg560422
More 1980 Baltimore
I spy a C500 with a '68 marker light... :popcrn:
Quote from: 69bronzeT5 on February 13, 2009, 08:46:46 PM
I spy a C500 with a '68 marker light... :popcrn:
NICE FIND! :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Took a lot of time to find it myself. :2thumbs:
I know some or most of these cars or owners Glen Walton J9B138601 .Steve Sunderman 355104 daytona very loaded with options 440 Pw etc car dodge executive garage car.Tom Hayden Tim W 409065 440 car with a Hemi
Quote from: hctub on February 03, 2009, 08:56:52 PM
Here are some pic's of the Charger 500 I owned years ago. I traded a 1970 Challenger RT convertible for it. The Challenger was loaded with just about everything except the bigger engine, it had the 383 Magnum. The 500 was owned by a guy in Colorado. We agreed on the deal and met half way in St. George Utah to swap cars. The 500 had been slid sideways into a street sign so the passenger front fender, inner fender and bumper were all bent. The windshield was broken and the power booster didn't work.
The first pic is when I got it home. It was a Hemi car but had a 440 in it. I then traded a 1970 Challenger TA for a 440 Daytona that had a Hemi in it. I switched the engines to make the cars right and sold the Daytona. The 500 hung around for years but unfortunately was never finished. The Daytona was a 4 speed - 8 3/4 and the 500 was an automatic-dana car.
F8 hemi Charger 500 J9B138601
Quote from: nascarxx29 on February 06, 2009, 10:54:46 AM
If thats the Mc Nally car its 133981.I read somewhere that Fred Mc Nally had a dealership in MI. So HCTUB used to own it before Maxwellwedge.And its this car.Also Maxwellwedge had Freds old daytona.I stumbled across a black painted superbird RM23VOA179726 of Fred Mc Nallys http://www.tntclassiccars.com/1970%20PLYMOUTH%20ROADRUNNER%20SUPERBIRD.htm
Wasnt 133981 .Actually 138601.
Yep, that was my old Hemi Charger 500, J9B138601
Baltimore 1980 still
Here is that Charger 500 with the 68 marker lights. Jerry Service owned it back then.
Jerry Service still owns that car as far as I know. Still hoping to get a chance to get up there and see it here pretty soon too.
As far as the B5 SE that you posted pictures of HCTUB, it is not the same car that cody posted though. The car that Gordon has isn't the same one that was in Idaho. The car in Idaho has recently been purchased by someone on this board, who has posted a few times. Car had a non numbers matching engine in it when bought, and had been repainted, and interior fixed. It is also a B5 blue, AT, blue interior, SE car. Board name is "hergfest"
Wow, you do have good records!
I have never seen that color before in new condition, very nice color.
I still have some more pics from the 1980 Baltimore meet and I sent the group picture to someone to try and re-size so I can post it but haven't heard back yet.
The album has pic's of the Ford products also so if anyone wants to see them I will post them or send them to their personal email.
Ron and Cathy Nichols 500
Just a little heads-up here, poeple. The 1980 Winged Warriors meet hired a professional photographer to take the pictures for the album. They are copyrighted, but , 28 years kater, the copyright would have expired, unless the photograper had the copyright renewed. Chick Schiesser, who organized the 1980 meet, gave me permission to post whatever I wanted here, but he wasn't sure if it would be legal or not. My suggestion, proceed with caution. (my album is in storage since I last moved)
Hmm, didn't realize that!!! Your opinion, should I stop posting pic's from the event?
I thought I bought the album from the club and didn't even think about any copyright issues. Guess the 1980 Baltimore meet is over!!!
good pictures :drool5: thanks for posting :2thumbs:
Quote from: learical1 on February 15, 2009, 11:04:39 AM
Just a little heads-up here, poeple. The 1980 Winged Warriors meet hired a professional photographer to take the pictures for the album. They are copyrighted, but , 28 years kater, the copyright would have expired, unless the photograper had the copyright renewed. Chick Schiesser, who organized the 1980 meet, gave me permission to post whatever I wanted here, but he wasn't sure if it would be legal or not. My suggestion, proceed with caution. (my album is in storage since I last moved)
PARTY POOPER :brickwall: the pics ought to be shown if they're antiques................
Copyright is long over and no one is selling them to anybody.....Court adjourned! :icon_smile_big:
duh heads up --- it's the wife typing --- as Rick remembers it (he's usually right) A couple showed up I believe from Orlando Florida with a Talladega. She worked for at a photography place and said it would be nice if she took pictures and put together an album for the club. She said she'd let the club know and if I'm not mistaken for 'cost'. So, techinacly a 'professional' photographer wasn't
to do anything. Anyone else remember this? They were simply club members who offered to put an album together.
Rick ( now I have things to do besides play secretary)
Quote from: maxwellwedge on February 15, 2009, 07:43:57 PM
Copyright is long over and no one is selling them to anybody.....Court adjourned! :icon_smile_big:
:woohoo: would love to see more pictures if you have them , sometime :popcrn: :2thumbs:
Not personally sure how long copyrights have for a photo, unless it is one that is being renewed, I know they expire over a period.
Since your not selling them, rather just showing them not a whole lot of an issue. ONly issue would be if someone would take the screen shot, and then try to print it off and sell it as their own say on ebay or something.
uhh - Tried to take a couple of the kids photos from ' ahhh Sears' to another store for prints (even tho they had a do-it-yourself computer) they refused to do it. Now, I believe if you just want to show the pics there should be no problem, only if you wanted re-produce them. Get it :brickwall: eekks! Ricks going to look up their names!!!!! Kinda a hard to do much to amatures - everyone with a computer and a disk or recoding device would be in jail from 'copywrites'
Names were Gary and Clare Leinenbach. They received the Best Talladega Stock award. Hmm if my scanner worked I'd be happy to send pictures of all the cars at the meet. Maybe I should go to the store and copy them to CD's and e-mail them to you. They weren't 'professionally' taken (check the backs duhhhh) They were produced the same if you had taken them yourself, and took them to K-mart to develope. Make up your mind soon the album is about to fall apart----- Yikes, McBride was bald back then. :angel: :smilielol: Looks a lot like Rick.
Sherry
This is as copyright pertains to photos.
As a general rule, for works (photos) created after January 1, 1978, copyright protection lasts for the life of the author plus an additional 70 years. For an anonymous work, or a work made for hire, the copyright endures for a term of 95 years from the year of its first publication or a term of 120 years from the year of its creation, whichever expires first.
For works first published prior to 1978, it's generally 28 years, with an option to renew for another 47 years.
Whether or not a copyright is actually enforced is another matter.
o.k. Doug I believe that copywrite requires a signature of the producer of the product and 'copywrite' on the item in question - at least that's what I was told when I created products for my company ' Buyers Corner Realty, Inc.' Of course one may be mistaken -
Doug do you know if this couple is still a member of the club.
General rule is 100 years. That's according to most copier businesses. That is unlees you have written consent from the original photographer or photography studio.
Quote from: talkiemopar on February 16, 2009, 12:34:48 PM
o.k. Doug I believe that copywrite requires a signature of the producer of the product and 'copywrite' on the item in question - at least that's what I was told when I created products for my company ' Buyers Corner Realty, Inc.' Of course one may be mistaken -
Doug do you know if this couple is still a member of the club.
I don't think they are members. Stating "copyright" on an item certainly makes it clear and easy to defend. If you publish a photo with the tag "Photo by Sherry", that's also a definite copyright. But I don't think you actually need to do that to defend it if pirated either. It's commonly thought that photos on the internet (example: old racing photos) are assumed to be in the public domain. That is not necessarily the case. Again, whether something is done to enforce it is another matter. There is an unscrupulous seller on Ebay who offers hundreds of 4 x 6 racing photos he's skimmed off the net. He owns the rights to none of them.
Maybe another call to Chick Schiesser is in order. I do recall the photographers gave me a couple rolls of film to take pictures at Pocono, 'cause they were returning home. I mailed the exposed film to them and a couple of shots appear in the album. So you have my permission to post them. And you can even post the picture of me judging Daytona's. It is my best side.
Quote from: learical1 on February 16, 2009, 11:33:57 PM
Maybe another call to Chick Schiesser is in order.
Now there is a name I have not heard in a long time. Chick seemed like a pretty nice guy. Both Chick and Steve Staffieri carried the Ford torch back then.
Stafferri was he the guy from Haddonfield NJ with Cyclone or other rare ford cars .Sounds familar to a guy in our area
Quote from: nascarxx29 on February 17, 2009, 07:15:02 AM
Stafferri was he the guy from Haddonfield NJ with Cyclone or other rare ford cars .Sounds familar to a guy in our area
Steve sold most (if not all) of his cars to Mike Atkins.
SOUNDS like the general consensus is that it's ok to post the pics. I was told something like they were club members that put the album together and they were only trying to cover their expenses.
Who was that who wanted their picture posted while judging the Daytonas? I seem to remember a pic of someone doing just that and Lou Whitfield judging the Birds.
I will post the rest of the pictures since the album doesn't state or the pic's don't state anything about being copyrighted.
Post away.
Quote from: hctub on February 17, 2009, 02:52:17 PM
SOUNDS like the general consensus is that it's ok to post the pics. I was told something like they were club members that put the album together and they were only trying to cover their expenses.
Who was that who wanted their picture posted while judging the Daytonas? I seem to remember a pic of someone doing just that and Lou Whitfield judging the Birds.
I will post the rest of the pictures since the album doesn't state or the pic's don't state anything about being copyrighted.
Well...............GET THIS PARTY STARTED!!!! :cheers: :popcrn:
Steve
Uh, this is from somewhere in the Virginia Maryland area around the first part of the 80's on a car lot where lots of aero cars happened to be!!!!
Same car lot with same aero cars.................
Lot pictures were at a Baltimore area Chrysler/Plymouth dealer. If memory serves, the dealer owner died a day or two before the meet, but they let us have the meet there anyway. The grass pictures with water in the background were at a local Baltimore park.
I believe Peter just sold that beige (now black) Daytona to another Canuck.
Wow, love that White Daytona!!!!
That car lot looks like heaven. I enjoy the hell out of looking at Super Bird and Daytona pics. Maybe I will have one someday...... :yesnod:
I beleive that Peter Guelph, owner of the white Daytona, lived in Ontario, Canada back in 1980. I remember finding out just how heavy those beasts are when he broke down about a mile from the Hotel. He called for help and about 5 or 6 of us pushed it back to the hotel. The worse part was the :flame: hill up to the hotel. :eek2: Rick
Re: Canadian daytona
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Peter's Car. 414630 is alive and well. It is not the burnt car pictured. I'd be interested to know what the VIN of this car is. I know of one that was supposedly stolen from here in Ontario around 1981-1982. But that cars VIN is not on any of the shipment lists.
couple more pics, still waiting on the re-sized group photo unless someone can direct me to a site where I can do it.
You can resize em on your own pc. Open it up in MS Paint, go to image then stretch and skew. Were it says "stretch" type in like 75 for horizontal and 75 for vertical and it will make the picture 25% smaller. Then use "Save as" so you dont delete the original.
Awesome pics btw
Thanks, I will try that.
Few more pics
more good pictures :2thumbs: :cheers:
that's unusual rocker mouldings on a superbird :scratchchin: :popcrn:
I took the two shots at Pocono. Several cars showed up only at the race, didn't make the meet. I probably shot 2 rolls of film, but only the group shots made the photo album.
More daytona pictures and superbird
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,26508.msg289160/topicseen.html#msg289160
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,26985.0.html
Quote from: nascarxx29 on February 19, 2009, 11:20:41 PM
Re: Canadian daytona
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Peter's Car. 414630 is alive and well. It is not the burnt car pictured. I'd be interested to know what the VIN of this car is. I know of one that was supposedly stolen from here in Ontario around 1981-1982. But that cars VIN is not on any of the shipment lists.
Which burnt car are you talking about - The US or the Canadian one? The white one pictured has a file name of "Peter_Niemanis" which I believe is originally Beige?
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Same car as above?Greg Williams
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Trailer hitch on this one.
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Quote from: nascarxx29 on February 22, 2009, 10:58:19 PM
Same car as above?Greg Williams
That one is on the mend - the top half got the worst - the bottom half was still quite ok. I saw it this weekend. The body man is a methodical, patient metal master. He had the car dipped, put it on his frame machine and started pulling, pushing, hammering, shrinking and tweaking it back into a car again. NOS quarters and fenders were found and I supplied a real wing for it. No re-body here - just a lot of hard work to save it. Another one lives on thankfully.
Quote from: maxwellwedge on February 23, 2009, 09:03:07 AM
Quote from: nascarxx29 on February 22, 2009, 10:58:19 PM
Same car as above?Greg Williams
That one is on the mend - the top half got the worst - the bottom half was still quite ok. I saw it this weekend. The body man is a methodical, patient metal master. He had the car dipped, put it on his frame machine and started pulling, pushing, hammering, shrinking and tweaking it back into a car again. NOS quarters and fenders were found and I supplied a real wing for it. No re-body here - just a lot of hard work to save it. Another one lives on thankfully.
can you get some picture ? ? ? :popcrn: :popcrn:
Quote from: moparstuart on February 23, 2009, 09:39:22 AM
Quote from: maxwellwedge on February 23, 2009, 09:03:07 AM
Quote from: nascarxx29 on February 22, 2009, 10:58:19 PM
Same car as above?Greg Williams
That one is on the mend - the top half got the worst - the bottom half was still quite ok. I saw it this weekend. The body man is a methodical, patient metal master. He had the car dipped, put it on his frame machine and started pulling, pushing, hammering, shrinking and tweaking it back into a car again. NOS quarters and fenders were found and I supplied a real wing for it. No re-body here - just a lot of hard work to save it. Another one lives on thankfully.
can you get some picture ? ? ? :popcrn: :popcrn:
:o intresting stuff ..would love to see any pictures also :yesnod: :popcrn:
Man that would make me sick to have that happen.
Someone asked for the pic of the attendee's at the Baltimore shindig. Hope you see who you were looking for in there.
I see rick and wayne center back row
Wingnut 426 pete in the front row
What is this guy looking at?? :rofl:
Quote from: UFO on February 27, 2009, 10:36:28 PM
What is this guy looking at?? :rofl:
That's Chick Schiesser, 1980 meet host, and the redhead is his wife, Sharon. I'm the fool in the 2nd row, leaning forward so you can see the people behind me, with the stupid smile on my face.
Okay - Thanks for clearing that up because as UFO pointed out, it looks like a guy "Schiezing up a Chick" :icon_smile_big:
Hey Stu,
Right, Rick is in the back row just right of the 'beard'.. Lou Whitfield is between Rick and Wayne Perkins. Of course the good looking gal in the front with white strap shoes is the younger version :yesnod: :icon_smile_big: ME :drool5:
:icon_smile_wink:
Thats why I couldn't spot you, I was looking back there by the talkative one.
Mike McGuire is at the right end of row 2
I see Tim Welborns name on the list but I can't pick him out of the crowd?
It's nice to see a guy looking at his own wife that way still!!!
Quote from: talkiemopar on February 28, 2009, 12:04:27 AM
Hey Stu,
Right, Rick is in the back row just right of the 'beard'.. Lou Whitfield is between Rick and Wayne Perkins. Of course the good looking gal in the front with white strap shoes is the younger version :yesnod: :icon_smile_big: ME :drool5:
:icon_smile_wink:
:drool5: :drool5: :drool5: :drool5: :drool5: :drool5: :drool5: :drool5: :drool5: wow what a looker and some nice legs :drool5: :drool5: :drool5:
I just like the tube socks on the kid in the front row, I still have about 15 pairs of those here at the house. And I love the name tags that everyone is wearing.
Few more.
Nice car Kenny had in the black and gold. We have a collection of 'custom' painted Superbirds and Dayton's from the 78 Wing Warriors meet in California. Talk about some out of this world paint jobs :2thumbs: Now if I can just locate them and get them on the site - I will .. Later madam secretary :shruggy:
some more pic's
Quote from: hctub on February 27, 2009, 07:01:43 PM
Man that would make me sick to have that happen.
Someone asked for the pic of the attendee's at the Baltimore shindig. Hope you see who you were looking for in there.
These are great pics hctub, I wonder where the INDIANA contingent is??? Back then I thought there were more wing cars in the INDY area than any where else on the planet.............Dwayne L. Had several and Dave J. had some the Alan & Debbi C. I know several in Anderson IN and New Castle etc etc.....
Steve
:coolgleamA: nice :coolgleamA:
is that a red 69 C500 with a white strip i see in the back ?? :drool5:
Yes, its back a few pages on here.
Quote from: XS29J8 on March 01, 2009, 07:50:45 AM
Quote from: hctub on February 27, 2009, 07:01:43 PM
Man that would make me sick to have that happen.
Someone asked for the pic of the attendee's at the Baltimore shindig. Hope you see who you were looking for in there.
These are great pics hctub, I wonder where the INDIANA contingent is??? Back then I thought there were more wing cars in the INDY area than any where else on the planet.............Dwayne L. Had several and Dave J. had some the Alan & Debbi C. I know several in Anderson IN and New Castle etc etc.....
Steve
Steve I know that in 1980 my dad only had the Q5 500, and possibly one of the R4 Daytona's. And Dave Jones at that time had a Green HEMI 500, and a HEMI Cuda I believe. My dad started really picking up the Daytona's and Birds around 1982. He bought a bird in 1981 and then the HEMI 500 in 82 along with the B5 Daytona, R6 Daytona, well and a few other cars. Dave Jones picked up the first of his HEMI daytona's in 1982 as well I believe. The V2 orange car. In 1980 I think that Larry Bell had a few wing cars up in New Castle area as well, and there was another gentleman Art Schwatz (i think I spelled that right) in greenfield that had a handful of Birds back in the early 80's. Which is why I thought that everyone had a yard full of the winged cars back then. Seemed to be at least 5 families within a 20 mile radius with more than 3-4 wing cars a piece.
This is Lou Whitfields 69 Charger RT. Lou and Joe Slama were supposed to drive Joe's Daytona to the meet from CA but it was having overheating problems so they went back to Joes house and jumped into Lou's RT to make the trip. I don't know how many of you know Lou but he was a fanatic about his cars. He hadn't planned to make the trip from coast to coast in the Charger but he kept everything in such good condition it wasn't a problem to take it without notice.
I traded the yellow SE Daytona for this car. I traded the Charger off once and ended up with it back then sold it years later with over 200,000 miles on the car.
I know its not an Aero car but it was at the meet.
O.K. here goes one of Ricks 'few' stories:
1980 on our way to the meet in Baltimore, we made a pit stop at a rest area in Maryland. We heard a horn and saw someone in a 69 RT Charger wildly waving their arms as they went by the rest area. They then stopped and backed up the exit ramp. It just so happened a state cop had just left the rest area minutes earlier, I call that luck. :icon_smile_wink:
Yep - Lou Whitfield and Joe Slama. :cheers: They had said they had left California two days earlier. O.k. I asked "where's the radar unit since you're burning up the road?" So, Lou reaches down on the floor and picks up a pair of binoculars stating that,
"I look - Joe drives." :brickwall: :icon_smile_big: :icon_smile_big: :icon_smile_big:
We cruised with them for a while at 90 to 100 until I (the secretary who was driving) decided - not a good idea with three kids in the car and we were left in the dust. Surprised we all got there alive.
I hate taking dictation :icon_smile_dissapprove: :icon_smile_dissapprove: :icon_smile_dissapprove:
Madam secretary
Quote from: talkiemopar on March 01, 2009, 11:39:02 PM
O.K. here goes one of Ricks 'few' stories:
1980 on our way to the meet in Baltimore, we made a pit stop at a rest area in Maryland. We heard a horn and saw someone in a 69 RT Charger wildly waving their arms as they went by the rest area. They then stopped and backed up the exit ramp. It just so happened a state cop had just left the rest area minutes earlier, I call that luck. :icon_smile_wink:
Yep - Lou Whitfield and Joe Slama. :cheers: They had said they had left California two days earlier. O.k. I asked "where's the radar unit since you're burning up the road?" So, Lou reaches down on the floor and picks up a pair of binoculars stating that,
"I look - Joe drives." :brickwall: :icon_smile_big: :icon_smile_big: :icon_smile_big:
We cruised with them for a while at 90 to 100 until I (the secretary who was driving) decided - not a good idea with three kids in the car and we were left in the dust. Surprised we all got there alive.
I hate taking dictation :icon_smile_dissapprove: :icon_smile_dissapprove: :icon_smile_dissapprove:
Madam secretary
" few stories " now thats funny :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
Just spoke to Lou this past Saturday. He and his wife were off to chase a Cyclone Spoiler on Sunday. Haven't heard if he made the deal.
few more
I think the wheels are called Spyders by the way on the black car. I think this is the car that when Lou saw the wheels on it he fell in love with them. He came back to CA and just had to have some. He ended up with a set on his Talladega.
more
Quote from: hctub on March 03, 2009, 08:14:03 PM
I think the wheels are called Spyders by the way on the black car. I think this is the car that when Lou saw the wheels on it he fell in love with them. He came back to CA and just had to have some. He ended up with a set on his Talladega.
Yep - Motor Wheel (one of the OEM's for Chrysler steel wheels) Spyder's I know a little about them ;) - look same tires too!
that bird with the Regan stickers makes me laugh...my air traffic controller father voted for him. that worked out well. :lol:
Quote from: pettybird on March 04, 2009, 12:00:42 AM
that bird with the Regan stickers makes me laugh...my air traffic controller father voted for him. that worked out well. :lol:
Oh - The Irony! ;D
Quote from: maxwellwedge on March 03, 2009, 08:19:26 PM
Quote from: hctub on March 03, 2009, 08:14:03 PM
I think the wheels are called Spyders by the way on the black car. I think this is the car that when Lou saw the wheels on it he fell in love with them. He came back to CA and just had to have some. He ended up with a set on his Talladega.
Yep - Motor Wheel (one of the OEM's for Chrysler steel wheels) Spyder's I know a little about them ;) - look same tires too!
where can i find a set of those wheels ? I like them alot
Usually when I find them there GM not Ford and Mopar.But 41/2 Ford to Mopar will work
http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/pts/1054382448.html
http://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/1058968784.html
http://eugene.craigslist.org/pts/1034721328.html
http://www.elkcreeksalvage.com/OddsEnds.html
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=149429
http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showthread.php?s=449cb8eeccbee5f52fc479a28eaddc9a&t=32102
Rare Spyder Motor Wheels
July 13, 2008
Rare 14x6 Spyder Motor aftermarket wheels. I believe they were only made for two years, I think 1969 and 1970. set of 4. $500 plus shipping
Thank You
Olivier twisted.motorsports@yahoo.com
The tricky part is getting the lug nuts. They are chrome with a red disk in the centre. I need one dreaded left hand thread.
I remember seeing those wheels a lot back in the day. I always thought they looked like they were missing some center caps. :lol:
Hey, I just found this!!
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,27044.0.html
That looks like the paint job on the slot mag Daytona from back in the thread! HCTUB, where you at?
I wonder if the black Superbird above is the same as this one which is in Indiana and was orange originally? Just changed the lettering from red to white.
Quote from: watt340 on April 28, 2009, 09:46:07 PM
I wonder if the black Superbird above is the same as this one which is in Indiana and was orange originally? Just changed the lettering from red to white.
No, it is not the same car. The Indiana car was owned by Fred McNally who was a dealer in the Michigan U.P. When he painted it black, it always had the white decals.
McNallys black painted Superbird was at TNT motor in NY at sometime
http://www.tntclassiccars.com/1970%20PLYMOUTH%20ROADRUNNER%20SUPERBIRD.htm
Wow its been crazy at work and didn't realize it had been so long since being on here!!!
Does anyone have a picture of the Hemi Daytona that the LA and Orange county Dodge dealers had Keith Black build the engine so they could try and set some speed records? I know the car used to be in Fresno, CA but don't know if it is still there or not. I am not trying to buy it (couldn't afford it anyway), just trying to find out where it ended up. Thanks is advance for any help. Glenn
Also known as the Keith Black daytona .It was owned by Holly Hedrich Gilbert Tarr .And last was heard from this orig Y2 Hemi 4 speed daytona J9B402974 .Mike and Cathy Downing owned it.Mr girlfriend Anne found these pictures on this site.Anne asked me if I recognized the car .It had the similar paint scheme has no graphics as compared to same car on the bottom
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Thank you for the pic's and the information. I knew Mike and Cathy owned it years ago but didn't know if they still owned it. I knew them years ago but have lost touch with them.
My wife works for the Clovis CA Chamber of Commerce and they have a car show every May. Next year is the "Mopar Shootout" and they are looking for a car to feature on their artwork (posters, flyers etc) and I thought the Daytona would be a great one especially since it is local. They had a "Camaro shootout" this year and it was a total flop, not the car show just the Camaro's. Only about 20 showed up! I am going to be a little more pro-active this time around and try to help the Mopar turnout.
By the way, if they decide to try and use the Daytona Mike and Cathy would be contacted for their ok BEFORE their car was used.
Any ideas out there on how to get some wing cars to show up for a show like this?
Does anyone have contact info for Mike and Cathy Downing/Dowling in Fresno? If you would rather not give out their info then please give them mine hctub@hotmail.com I appreciate any help. Glenn
I believe this guy on another board has mentioned and seen the daytona also from Fresno Ca knows the Downings.Shoot him a email
Email jimlusk@pacbell.net
Member # 9084
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Homepage
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Is there any way to find out the members that live in the Central Valley of CA or just CA in general. Any leads would be appreciated, Glenn
took a picutre of waynes old photo album from the 80's three hemi daytonas
Lets see Green daytona Jim Radke or Mike Mc Guires car Orange car Terry Roleoffs .Black daytona Jerry Service.How did I score :icon_smile_big:
Quote from: nascarxx29 on June 28, 2009, 08:03:54 PM
Lets see Green daytona Jim Radke or Mike Mc Guires car Orange car Terry Roleoffs .Black daytona Jerry Service.How did I score :icon_smile_big:
I dont know for sure , but I think the green one may be the 99 car of waynes . I know wayne got it in y2 yellow , then he painted it john deer green. Then he started to paint it F6 with white wing . Which was his intent to be final, before it became the race car purple 99 . So that could be waynes daytona ???
Quote from: moparstuart on June 28, 2009, 07:54:03 PM
took a picutre of waynes old photo album from the 80's three hemi daytonas
:drool5: ........... :popcrn: :coolgleamA:
Okay, I need one of you Wing Car experts to settle an argument for me. I have a friend who insists you could get a Daytona in Lime Green and I disagree. He has agreed to believe the responses on here so please respond away.
Glenn
Never seen one would have to see fender tag and buildsheet to believe it.There has been cars seen painted in that color though but not original.Elmer D pictured in link bellow looks lime green
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,26508.0.html
Thanks
Isn't that color called "sassy grass" or something like that? Joe Slama's Daytona was that color. I think I have a picture of it sitting at the old Riverside Raceway, I will have to check later.
I still remember standing there drooling over Radke's Blue and Red Hemi Daytona. They were way out of my price range then, I think they were 10,000 - 15,000 for one then!!! They are even further out of my price range now!!! The one that Mike and Kathy own in Fresno sat on the Grapevine for sale for years, they wanted $10,000 if I remember correctly.
Glenn
Quote from: hctub on July 11, 2009, 09:54:29 AM
Okay, I need one of you Wing Car experts to settle an argument for me. I have a friend who insists you could get a Daytona in Lime Green and I disagree. He has agreed to believe the responses on here so please respond away.
Glenn
From the standpoint of "get a Daytona in Lime Green" from the factory, that wasn't very likely at all. Lime Green (FJ5/"SubLime" for Dodge in 1970, FJ6/"Green Go" for Dodge in 1970-71) was not introduced yet when the Daytonas were made. If someone had enough pull I suppose it was at least hypothetically possible that a Special-Order color car was built, although those were typically sprayed out with custom colors available through someone else's large/fleet order. There are at least two 99 99 paint code Daytonas that I know about, both having been ordered by the same dealership, and both are listed as having "special paint" on the WW/NBOA's Dealer Invoice list. Neither of those cars were lime green, and the color used was available elsewhere as a fleet color.
With that being said, if a customer came into a dealership in 1970-1 and wanted to purchase a Daytona (which by then could have been sitting on a dealer's lot for many months) as long as it was repainted in FJ5 or FJ6, my guess is that many salesmen would have bent over backwards to accomodate that sort of thing.
In the end, even if a car was painted lime green by the dealership before ever being transferred into the original owner's name, I would still view the car as anything BUT a lime green car. To me, a car should be "classified" by the paint color it wore when it left Hamtramck. Elmer Duellmann's car is a close approximation of this -- it's an X9 car in my book, even though it may have spent a very small percentage of its time as a black exterior color car. That doesn't mean I would rush right out and repaint a car which still wears a nice paintjob and has no rust issues to fix. But hey, maybe I'm just weird about stuff like that...
Glenn, I think you're on very solid ground in the statement(s) you made - no Daytonas were available in Lime Green.
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Quote from: nascarxx29 on July 11, 2009, 11:01:16 AM
Never seen one would have to see fender tag and buildsheet to believe it.There has been cars seen painted in that color though but not original.Elmer D pictured in link bellow looks lime green
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,26508.0.html The Elmer Duelman car I refered to earlier is the only longterm lime green daytona .That came to mind
Thanks Hemigeno
I was fairly sure about no Lime Green Daytona's but my friend wanted an "outside, as close to expert" witness and I knew this forum was the best place to find the answer. I appreciate the help and I will toast you and the forum when I drink the beer we bet.
Glenn
Quote from: hctub on July 14, 2009, 01:16:28 PM
I will toast you and the forum when I drink the beer we bet.
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Quote from: hctub on January 11, 2009, 06:07:09 PM
No I don't have the TA anymore. I traded it decades ago for a Daytona with a Hemi in it, not an original Hemi car though. I had a Charger 500 with a 440 in it that was an original Hemi car so I switched the engines. The TA is one of those cars I really wish I had back. The TA and Daytonas were my favorites of all the cars I have owned although the 69 Charger RT that Lou Whitfield would come in a very close second to anything. It was a sweet car.
I totally remember Lou's 69 R/t. Super nice car. Didn't he trade that for that Daytona S.E.?
Yes I traded a Y2 Yellow S.E. Daytona to Lou for the R/T. I bought the Daytona from Colin Young in Washington but I had seen the car many years before in Las Vegas with a standard frontend on it. I think there is a picture earlier of the car. I am pretty sure its the same car that was in Hemmings several months ago. How many Y2 S.E. Daytona's can there be especially with fiberglass noses? It started at around $229,000 and came down a whole lot the last time I saw it. At today's prices the trade seems lopsided but back then it wasn't. The R/T was perfect and the Daytona barely ran, needed EVERYTHING and I had 2 other Daytonas and a Hemi Charger 500. They all needed work and the R/T didn't. If you ever have a chance to buy a car Lou has worked on, do it, he doesn't skimp on anything for his cars and does wonderful work.
Glenn
Quote from: hctub on September 19, 2009, 06:55:44 AM
Yes I traded a Y2 Yellow S.E. Daytona to Lou for the R/T. I bought the Daytona from Colin Young in Washington but I had seen the car many years before in Las Vegas with a standard frontend on it. I think there is a picture earlier of the car. I am pretty sure its the same car that was in Hemmings several months ago. How many Y2 S.E. Daytona's can there be especially with fiberglass noses? It started at around $229,000 and came down a whole lot the last time I saw it. At today's prices the trade seems lopsided but back then it wasn't. The R/T was perfect and the Daytona barely ran, needed EVERYTHING and I had 2 other Daytonas and a Hemi Charger 500. They all needed work and the R/T didn't. If you ever have a chance to buy a car Lou has worked on, do it, he doesn't skimp on anything for his cars and does wonderful work.
Glenn
Thomas Van Clief was the guy in Las Vegas. The S.E. has a steel nose back on it. I had called him when the car was on ebay and asked him if it still had the glass nose on it and he said no. I asked are you sure and then he checked. He was not happy to find a glass nose. The car came with the steel nose but was damaged. Well he fixed it and it is back on the car. The guy in the Phoenix area said it was going to Australia or something like that for $125. Where did his Bird go? I never have seen it again. I went with Lou and Erin to talladega in 09 and 04 but I think they are leaving earlier this year. I have to call him to see. Are you going to Talladege next month? Sean
The bird had way more rust on it than I could fix or afford to fix back then. I also bought the first Daytona and liked it better anyways. I think the bird came from New Jersey. I sold it to a young guy in Porterville, Ca and I heard he bondo'd up the rust holes, painted it and then sold it and I don't know to who or where.
I haven't had a wing car since about 12-13 years ago. A series of events with the last one being a divorce took care of the cars!!! I would love to have one again and not for the money part of it, I love wing cars period. Needless to say, I can't afford one now or at least can't justify that kind of money. I have a few classic cars and have to be happy with them.
I haven't seen Lou for quite a few years now although I did talk with him several months ago on the phone right after he picked up the Cyclone Spoiler. I know by now he is going hot and heavy on the car and it will turn out like all the "Whitfield" cars, perfect.
Glenn
what i want to know is how many of these cars pictured are still around and how many still look the way the did
Haven't been on here for a long time, AGAIN!!! Converting my old negatives over to JPEG's and ran across some more pics.
Had a post earlier about seeing a Charger 500 in a back yard while driving down the freeway in Indianapolis in the late 70's or very early 80's. We got off the freeway and wandered around residential streets until we found it which was kind of hard since we were in an 18 wheeler. The copper 500 was in the backyard and while we were talking to the guy a red white and blue Daytona pulled up. The guy also sent us to where a Talladega was parked close to his house.
I didn't have a pic of the 500 when I posted this story earlier.
Glenn
The star daytona
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,27044.0.html
Quote from: nascarxx29 on January 08, 2010, 04:17:56 PM
The star daytona
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,27044.0.html
Look at the Dodge sticker in the back window of the star Daytona, does this look like the "phantom" Dodge sticker from Troy's back window with the mist on it that he posted recently - is it the same piece of glass by chance?
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,65127.0.html
Good observation maybe a scale placement measurement can be done on both rear windows. Star daytona might be from IN area .And Troys car sold new in IN I believe
Very well could be the same style of sticker, but the original back glass from the Star Daytona is still resting comfortably a few hundred miles to the west-northwest of Indy...
:o good pictures Glenn :yesnod: thanks for sharing :2thumbs: :popcrn:
I will post more as I find them. The first Daytona I owned had a 500 emblem between the tail lights. I remember at some meet I was at there was a discussion about the 500 and the placement. Since there is so much more information now, was this stock/correct/etc?
Quote from: Dave Kanofsky on January 08, 2010, 04:40:07 PM
Quote from: nascarxx29 on January 08, 2010, 04:17:56 PM
The star daytona
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,27044.0.html
Look at the Dodge sticker in the back window of the star Daytona, does this look like the "phantom" Dodge sticker from Troy's back window with the mist on it that he posted recently - is it the same piece of glass by chance?
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,65127.0.html
No its not the same piece of glass. I have never noticed the remnants of a sticker in the rear window either. Apparently it was removed at some point. Perhaps the "Phantom" of it will reappear some foggy night. Its got to get above zero for that to happen though I believe. :lol:
I had not noticed this before in this most recent photo of the car to surface but the fender pods were not on the car at that time.
Love the pictures Glenn :2thumbs:
Here is a pic of the "500" emblem on the back of my first Daytona (410760) at least I think that was the serial number. I don't remember the other 2 having this emblem but that was decades ago! Was this correct or maybe added down the road somewhere, it looked like factory holes inside the trunk at least.
Another shot of my rusty bird sitting next to the first Daytona.
Glenn
Quote from: hctub on January 11, 2010, 11:20:48 AM
Was this correct or maybe added down the road somewhere, it looked like factory holes inside the trunk at least.
Technically, that wasn't correct for a Daytona, and I haven't seen another car with that treatment (haven't seen them all either though). I also don't know if it was Creative Industries or Hamtramck that installed the "500" emblem below the taillights on Charger500's in the first place. If it WAS Creative, it would make it harder to understand why they would have removed the Charger arrowhead & script normally found on a Daytona and replaced it with the 500 emblem. MAYBE it was one of the R/T emblem mistake cars? That's a longshot though and still wouldn't explain why it was changed out.
How close is the pin layout between a "500" emblem and a Charger arrowhead & script and/or an "R/T" emblem? I'm not looking at any of those emblems at the moment, but I seem to remember there were three pins on the Charger script and 2 on the "500" & R/T with the R/T's 2-pin layout different than the 500. You'd think there would have been some evidence of the original pin hole placement visible on the backside of the taillight panel - that's a hard area to get to with the trunk latch reinforcement (i.e. hard to refinish well enough to remove any evidence of a re-drill effort).
Great pictures though!
Interesting picture thanks for sharing :2thumbs:
Couple of more pic's I ran across today.
I can't remember where these were taken, a mind is a terrible thing to lose!!!
The white Daytona without a nose is Vern Judy's
The Coca Cola Daytona is Joe Machado's
Lou Whitfield's Talladega
My Daytona
Joe Slama's Daytona is the green one on the end
I have a few more of them parked there, will post tomorrow
Thanks for sharing the vintage pictures :2thumbs: That Joe S car didnt Radke have one that was that off green color
The 500 emblem off a Ford fairlane looks very similar to that one.
Was visiting my brother in law in Olympia WA and he took me out to see this car, early 80's again.
How do you like that back bumper?
Yelm, Washington by chance? That setting looks familiar. George (can't remember his last name)...
I really have no clue of exactly where this was or who owned them. The owner wasn't there and we snapped some pics and left. If Yelm is near Olympia you remember more about the car than I do!!!
Glenn
Quote from: hctub on January 15, 2010, 03:19:01 PM
I really have no clue of exactly where this was or who owned them. The owner wasn't there and we snapped some pics and left. If Yelm is near Olympia you remember more about the car than I do!!!
Glenn
Yes, it's the same car. Same plate number on the dash. This one is from 1975. V0A171582
Not sure if this is before or after, but the pic is dated Oct '75.
Nice Pic's