Does anyone have a shifter I can borrow. These things are freakin outrageous and I'm sure I can reproduce these for a reasonable price. I would like to borrow one and try to make these.. I'm in New Mexico and would be willi to pick it up and give a deposit if necessary.
The year might be of some help :Twocents:
Sorry, 69 b body. Are they the same from 66-70 ?
no...66 to mid 68 used the "Inland" shifter...after that, they used the "Hurst" style....what part are you wanting?
the handles & complete mechanisms are completely different
Bryan
I need a 4 speed console shifter for a 69 dodge charger rt. When I can find them they are like $300. For $20 worth of steel, some bends, and some welds. Thaught for sure 68 and 69 were the same. 70 went to pistol grip but figured it was the same shape. I have seen 67 and it looked the same too, had a hurst shifter mechanism.
Are you just talking about the shift lever itself?
Yup, just the lever. 68 and 69 were just wood knobs that threaded on the end 70 was the pistol grip, would be harder but think I could make that too. Just figured I would start with the threaded end
Chroming said shift levers is not gonna be cheap
I have a 68, but with a 70 hurst shifter.
Interesting..
I'm planning to do the 70 b-body console shifters but I'll probably use stainless steel. The plan is to cut the metal with a water jet and then make the four bends (would need to heat it up). I already got the measurements from a guy who has an original shifter. Not sure if it's gonna work but if it does I want to make the DXF file (for the water jet) available for everyone.
Quote from: RGA on November 19, 2013, 10:48:27 PM
I need a 4 speed console shifter for a 69 dodge charger rt. When I can find them they are like $300. For $20 worth of steel, some bends, and some welds. Thaught for sure 68 and 69 were the same. 70 went to pistol grip but figured it was the same shape. I have seen 67 and it looked the same too, had a hurst shifter mechanism.
As already mentioned above by A383Wing, 68/69/70 each uses different style/shape shift levers. Pics below. It is my understanding that later '68 models had the '69 style Hurst shifter.
:cheers:
If you just want a shifter for your own car and you're capable of making them, then why not just make one that feels comfy to you? You can eyeball something close to the factory dimensions just from the pics.
If you're serious about reproducing a batch of accurate ones, then buying one original shouldn't be a big expenditure to do it right.
You should be able to find a crappy looking old used one for a lot less than 300 bucks if you just want to measure bends
Order a new one and measure and trace it out on a piece of paper and then return it.
I like the bend in the 68 Inland shifter handle above....I would like to find one.... :popcrn:
Quote from: A383Wing on November 20, 2013, 10:42:59 PM
I like the bend in the 68 Inland shifter handle above....I would like to find one.... :popcrn:
Wasn't that the year your knuckles hit the padding going into first......I think that's why I picked a 70 hurst to fit in mine.
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on November 20, 2013, 08:43:54 PM
If you just want a shifter for your own car and you're capable of making them, then why not just make one that feels comfy to you? You can eyeball something close to the factory dimensions just from the pics.
If you're serious about reproducing a batch of accurate ones, then buying one original shouldn't be a big expenditure to do it right.
Not sure if this was directed at me but I just want to make one for myself. It's not that much more work to make an accurate one if you have the measurements - which I do have. The goal is to have a shifter handle that looks as close to a factory handle as possible and still be cheaper and better quality (stainless).
I agree with you. If you have the means to make it yourself and it looks good then why not?
Plus your saving some money in the process.
Please show us pics as you make the shifter, and who knows, you may be able to sell a few.
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on November 21, 2013, 02:11:20 AM
Quote from: A383Wing on November 20, 2013, 10:42:59 PM
I like the bend in the 68 Inland shifter handle above....I would like to find one.... :popcrn:
Wasn't that the year your knuckles hit the padding going into first......I think that's why I picked a 70 hurst to fit in mine.
My Inland has been through all the gears 100+ times and my knuckles haven't hit anything. :shruggy:
You aren't hitting 3rd hard enough. :D
Quote from: Ghoste on November 21, 2013, 02:43:46 PM
You aren't hitting 3rd hard enough. :D
Trust me, it's been hit pretty hard several times. :D
Quote from: bull on November 21, 2013, 01:31:44 PM
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on November 21, 2013, 02:11:20 AM
Quote from: A383Wing on November 20, 2013, 10:42:59 PM
I like the bend in the 68 Inland shifter handle above....I would like to find one.... :popcrn:
Wasn't that the year your knuckles hit the padding going into first......I think that's why I picked a 70 hurst to fit in mine.
My Inland has been through all the gears 100+ times and my knuckles haven't hit anything. :shruggy:
mine have been as well...but my Inland handles do not have the "second bend" at the upper part
Yup, I was thinking about just plain steal and painting it or powder coating it interior color. Probably just buy one and then re-sell it. 69 is the correct one but I've driven them and the shift through is like 2ft. Is the 68 a shorter through ?
Quote from: RGA on November 21, 2013, 09:26:29 PM
Yup, I was thinking about just plain steal and painting it or powder coating it interior color. Probably just buy one and then re-sell it. 69 is the correct one but I've driven them and the shift through is like 2ft. Is the 68 a shorter through ?
1st to 2nd is too long for some reason but after that its a short throw. I lose so much time after 1st....
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on November 22, 2013, 01:48:18 AM
Quote from: RGA on November 21, 2013, 09:26:29 PM
Yup, I was thinking about just plain steal and painting it or powder coating it interior color. Probably just buy one and then re-sell it. 69 is the correct one but I've driven them and the shift through is like 2ft. Is the 68 a shorter through ?
1st to 2nd is too long for some reason but after that its a short throw. I lose so much time after 1st....
Very easy to correct the throw length (make it shorter):
.) get a 70 B-body pistol grip shifter mechanism - they have longer tabs to compensate for the longer handle
.) modify the shifter tabs at the transmission - drill new holes closer to the pivot. Makes shifting a little harder but shorter throw.
I have seriously been looking for a shifter on line for 2 days and can't find one for sale. Found no 69 4 speed console shifters. 1 70 on ebay for $500 just for the shifter lever..... Crazy
That is crazy, just absurd.
they are very expensive...I was offered 300 alone for the shifter in mine its a 70 shifter hurst original no repro.
Quote from: RGA on November 23, 2013, 11:52:42 PM
I have seriously been looking for a shifter on line for 2 days and can't find one for sale....
Repro's are available in the bolt-on style;
http://brewersperformance.com/products.asp?cat=226
http://www.passonperformance.com/component/virtuemart/?page=shop.browse&category_id=46
Original restored ones also available;
http://brewersperformance.com/products.asp?cat=110
http://www.passonperformance.com/component/virtuemart/?page=shop.browse&category_id=45
:cheers:
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on November 24, 2013, 12:57:43 AM
they are very expensive...I was offered 300 alone for the shifter in mine its a 70 shifter hurst original no repro.
That's crazy..
..hard to find and very expensive (70 console). That's the reason why I decided to make my own.
I don't know, that all just makes me shake my head and wonder.
Quote from: ChargerST on November 24, 2013, 08:01:46 AM
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on November 24, 2013, 12:57:43 AM
they are very expensive...I was offered 300 alone for the shifter in mine its a 70 shifter hurst original no repro.
That's crazy..
..hard to find and very expensive (70 console). That's the reason why I decided to make my own.
The link provided mine is the 500 dollar one i have that shift in mine its a 68 though with a 68 console so the boot angle is off and is stressed i.e. ripped lol.
Quote from: moparfan53 on November 24, 2013, 07:45:52 AM
Quote from: RGA on November 23, 2013, 11:52:42 PM
I have seriously been looking for a shifter on line for 2 days and can't find one for sale....
Repro's are available in the bolt-on style;
http://brewersperformance.com/products.asp?cat=226
http://www.passonperformance.com/component/virtuemart/?page=shop.browse&category_id=46
Original restored ones also available;
http://brewersperformance.com/products.asp?cat=110
http://www.passonperformance.com/component/virtuemart/?page=shop.browse&category_id=45
:cheers:
Thanks for the links $230 is better for sure