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Title: 69 Hellcat
Post by: JB400 on August 16, 2017, 04:53:04 PM
http://www.clevelandpap.com/69-dodge-charger-hellcat-gallery/
Title: Re: 69 Hellcat
Post by: green69rt on August 16, 2017, 05:20:23 PM
What do you think, $500K plus the destruction of two nice cars?  I guess it was done because it could be done... :shruggy:
Title: Re: 69 Hellcat
Post by: marshallfry01 on August 16, 2017, 07:40:51 PM
That looks like absolute shit. It sits up too high being on that challenger chassis.
Title: Re: 69 Hellcat
Post by: VegasCharger on August 16, 2017, 10:01:36 PM
That hood is hideous.  :puke: :puke: :puke:
Title: Re: 69 Hellcat
Post by: Baldwinvette77 on August 16, 2017, 10:05:05 PM
I like it, i wish it had a stock hood and valence, or even a 6-pak scoop but i get it, its a shame they cut up such a nice charger though.
Title: Re: 69 Hellcat
Post by: Kern Dog on August 16, 2017, 10:48:45 PM
Quote from: marshallfry01 on August 16, 2017, 07:40:51 PM
That looks like absolute shit. It sits up too high being on that challenger chassis.

I agree. Add to that the radiused wheel wells look terrible too. Either widen the fenders or run different wheels.
Title: Re: 69 Hellcat
Post by: 68X426 on August 16, 2017, 11:20:17 PM

Where did it say it was 500k?  :shruggy:

Title: Re: 69 Hellcat
Post by: Ponch ® on August 17, 2017, 08:09:52 AM
Quote from: Kern Dog on August 16, 2017, 10:48:45 PM
Quote from: marshallfry01 on August 16, 2017, 07:40:51 PM
That looks like absolute shit. It sits up too high being on that challenger chassis.

I agree. Add to that the radiused wheel wells look terrible too. Either widen the fenders or run different wheels.

As much as money, time,and effort as they spent on the build, they did get lazy when it came to that.
Title: Re: 69 Hellcat
Post by: Ghoste on August 17, 2017, 08:20:20 AM
I saw it in Columbus last weekend, don't recall a price but I'm sure there must be one somewhere.  It was "different", that's for sure.
Title: Re: 69 Hellcat
Post by: lukedukem on August 17, 2017, 08:51:05 AM
I'd like to see what they did about the dash corners

Luke
Title: Re: 69 Hellcat
Post by: Old Moparz on August 17, 2017, 09:33:17 AM
I like it so far but want to see the finished result before saying it's actually good or bad. I love the whole idea of taking a beautiful classic, modernize the handling, comfort, etc & turning it into something that's more drivable. :cheers:
Title: Re: 69 Hellcat
Post by: Ryan.C on August 17, 2017, 10:32:18 AM
Quote from: Kern Dog on August 16, 2017, 10:48:45 PM
Quote from: marshallfry01 on August 16, 2017, 07:40:51 PM
That looks like absolute shit. It sits up too high being on that challenger chassis.

I agree. Add to that the radiused wheel wells look terrible too. Either widen the fenders or run different wheels.

I am of the same opinion as far as the wheels are concerned. So I was thinking how else does one get around running different/smaller wheels with those massive brembos on all four corners? I dont have a good answer just a thought. IDK good idea, poor execution  :Twocents:
Title: Re: 69 Hellcat
Post by: DAY CLONA on August 17, 2017, 11:22:52 AM
The car needs to sit at least another 3-4" further down on the Hellcat chassis, they made the mistake of not hanging the Charger sheet metal on a skinned downed platform, chopping down the dash, etc, etc, instead they tried the modeler's approach of trying to fit the Charger body and unitized components on a skateboard...end result is the equivalent of a 30's high boy roadster, wheel stance and size is everything, it either makes or breaks the look




Perfect execution of stance on an LX platform, Steve Mirabelli's Daytona, they should have taken a page from his book on execution
Title: Re: 69 Hellcat
Post by: 303 Mopar on August 17, 2017, 11:25:13 AM
Reminds me of the 4 door Barra....oh never mind..... :nono:
Title: Re: 69 Hellcat
Post by: chargerperson on August 17, 2017, 11:27:18 AM
Quote from: Ghoste on August 17, 2017, 08:20:20 AM
I saw it in Columbus last weekend, don't recall a price but I'm sure there must be one somewhere.  It was "different", that's for sure.

Off topic
Ghoste: Welcome back
Title: Re: 69 Hellcat
Post by: Kern Dog on August 17, 2017, 11:31:22 AM
With respect to Steve, I don't like the front wheel openings on his car either.
Title: Re: 69 Hellcat
Post by: 6pkrtse on August 17, 2017, 01:27:53 PM
The 69Hellcat is Hideous..... The 68-70 Charger is a work of art & a perfect design from the factory. Why can't people leave a good thing alone.
Title: Re: 69 Hellcat
Post by: chargerboy69 on August 17, 2017, 04:38:00 PM
Quote from: Ghoste on August 17, 2017, 08:20:20 AM
I saw it in Columbus last weekend, don't recall a price but I'm sure there must be one somewhere.  It was "different", that's for sure.


Shawn, good to see you.
Title: Re: 69 Hellcat
Post by: Mike DC on August 17, 2017, 10:24:04 PM
      
I think the Hellcat's '69 body might look low enough in front, if the rearend was raised another couple inches upwards.  


My only gripe is that they clearly chopped up a nice restored 4spd '69.  If you don't need the lower half of the body then there is zero excuse to cut up decent cars.     
Title: Re: 69 Hellcat
Post by: Homerr on August 18, 2017, 01:42:59 PM
Stop the madness of pro-street disease.   ::)
Title: Re: 69 Hellcat
Post by: alfaitalia on August 18, 2017, 05:56:45 PM
Quote from: Homerr on August 18, 2017, 01:42:59 PM
Stop the madness of pro-street disease.   ::)


I guess you are probably joking but it's the many posts like this (where the paint blob and date correct parts lot are definitely not joking) that will, and have been stopping me posting any pics of my car until its done..by then i won't care what anybody's views are on it. It's their car and their cash....they can do as they wish to their own car and spend cash on it as they see fit. .....Having said that I also wish they had left the wheel wells stock shape!.....and yes, the bonnet is certainly not an improvement on the factory one. I would have made the shallow factory indents deeper and left it there. I'm guessing they probably need the extra clearance for the motor.
Title: Re: 69 Hellcat
Post by: Stevearino on August 18, 2017, 07:08:22 PM
The wheels are definitely an issue as far as scale goes. I just found out recently that there are 18" Cobra wheels from American Racing that will clear the front brembos by 3/16 of an inch. I wish I had known of that option. Maybe sometime down the road. I wish there was a wheel store like a shoe store that you could go to and try on different sets. The 20" wheels look just a tad too big for my taste. With the Hell Cat it is even a bigger issue because it has a wider track and the wheels don't tuck under. My radius wheel openings where an active choice because I was trying to emulate the race version of this car with certain details and they of course had radius wheel openings. If I had chose to go with stock fenders they would definitely had to be widened. I did like the way they reinforced the rockers with some rectangular stock on this build. Not excited about the air dam either. CDR has a much more tasteful air dam on his 68 that would  have hid the huge radiator much better.  Thanks for the thumbs up Dayclona.

Quote from: Kern Dog on August 17, 2017, 11:31:22 AM
With respect to Steve, I don't like the front wheel openings on his car either.

You are not alone Kern Dog. I have taken quite a lot of grief for both my wheel choice and other aspects of the car such as my choice to not go with the Daytona grill set up but we like what we like. No one can argue with that.

What I was after in the pic below
Title: Re: 69 Hellcat
Post by: hemi68charger on August 18, 2017, 07:58:03 PM
Quote from: DAY CLONA on August 17, 2017, 11:22:52 AM
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Perfect execution of stance on an LX platform, Steve Mirabelli's Daytona, they should have taken a page from his book on execution

Damn... That's badass...

Title: Re: 69 Hellcat
Post by: Homerr on August 18, 2017, 08:15:57 PM
I was serious, good luck reinventing your 2nd-gen.  Well done examples are very rare, and many Chargers of this finite resource have been ruined trying to improve on the design.

Stevarino is the exception to the rule, he gets a pass for excellent work.  Although I'm still bummed about the gas cap!   :nana:
Title: Re: 69 Hellcat
Post by: Kern Dog on August 18, 2017, 10:02:15 PM
Steve, I can now see your point on the front wheelwells. The NASCAR Chargers did have a great look to them, all hunkered down over some really wide wheels and tires. I meant no disrespect to you or your work. I would never say that your work is poorly done, I just prefer the stock wheel opening shape.
Title: Re: 69 Hellcat
Post by: Mike DC on August 18, 2017, 10:53:59 PM
                
:Twocents:  

Daytonas look way more 'right' with raised/rounded front wheel openings than stock 68-70 Chargers do.

 
Title: Re: 69 Hellcat
Post by: Stevearino on August 19, 2017, 04:41:19 AM
Quote from: Kern Dog on August 18, 2017, 10:02:15 PM
Steve, I can now see your point on the front wheelwells. The NASCAR Chargers did have a great look to them, all hunkered down over some really wide wheels and tires. I meant no disrespect to you or your work. I would never say that your work is poorly done, I just prefer the stock wheel opening shape.

I get that. No offense taken. It is all good.   :cheers:

Quote from: Homerr on August 18, 2017, 08:15:57 PM
I was serious, good luck reinventing your 2nd-gen.  Well done examples are very rare, and many Chargers of this finite resource have been ruined trying to improve on the design.

Stevarino is the exception to the rule, he gets a pass for excellent work.  Although I'm still bummed about the gas cap!   :nana:

:lol:
Title: Re: 69 Hellcat
Post by: ACUDANUT on August 19, 2017, 09:00:53 AM
Someone has a lot of Money. Ain't me. :brickwall:
Title: Re: 69 Hellcat
Post by: BSB67 on August 20, 2017, 07:13:58 AM
I like it.