I stumbled upon this NOS wing on eBay. Not sure if this is the right place to post but I was just amazed that an unused wing is even a thing.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-PLYMOUTH-SUPERBIRD-NOS-NEW-OLD-STOCK-WING-NEVER-USED-EXTREMELY-RARE/202867227448?hash=item2f3bd43b38:g:jZQAAOSwbn1eDOyp (https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-PLYMOUTH-SUPERBIRD-NOS-NEW-OLD-STOCK-WING-NEVER-USED-EXTREMELY-RARE/202867227448?hash=item2f3bd43b38:g:jZQAAOSwbn1eDOyp)
I think the signatures are more impressive and more valuable than the wing. (see description of documents below)
My big claim to fame is that I have over 600 Union Oil Advertising Releases for the 1969 race season. There were required by each driver to sign before each race so Union Oil had the driver's permission in advance to publish their picture if they won a race or were involved in a crash or other picture worthy event.
I have Richard Petty's signature on 10 of the races that year, one of them he won. I say "signature" because these are legal documents and are not autographs signed for a fan. One of my rarest one is Richard Brickhouse's Release for the first Talladega Race in 1969 which also was the debut race for the Dodge Daytona. He won the race driving Charlie Glotzbach's #99 car because Charlie and many famous racers boycotted the first Talladega race because the track was considered too fast and dangerous for the tires of the day. I also have Don MacTavish's last race and perhaps his last signature before he died in a tragic wreck that you can see on YouTube.
I am looking for someone that may want to buy some or all of that collection. Charles Craig valued it between $50,000 to $70,000. Buz McKim, the historian from the Nascar Hall of Fame, said they are not rare, they are one of a kind, because he had never seen them before. They basically were Union Oil business documents that were discarded several years after each race. I happened to work at the archive that Union Oil used when they were being thrown out. I also have Mario Andretti's release from his 1967 Daytona 500 win.
Quote from: Charger1970 on March 01, 2020, 08:01:31 AM
I stumbled upon this NOS wing on eBay. Not sure if this is the right place to post but I was just amazed that an unused wing is even a thing.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-PLYMOUTH-SUPERBIRD-NOS-NEW-OLD-STOCK-WING-NEVER-USED-EXTREMELY-RARE/202867227448?hash=item2f3bd43b38:g:jZQAAOSwbn1eDOyp (https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-PLYMOUTH-SUPERBIRD-NOS-NEW-OLD-STOCK-WING-NEVER-USED-EXTREMELY-RARE/202867227448?hash=item2f3bd43b38:g:jZQAAOSwbn1eDOyp)
:2thumbs:
:popcrn:
I may be wrong, but part numbers beginning with 35 sound much later than 1970 part numbers.
I'll check my parts catalog when I hit the shop in a few minutes...
Part number is correct and the decals he has are the PLYMOUTH in both White and Black.
Pretty NEAT piece, that's for sure! NOT $20K neat IMO!
Quote from: Birdflu on March 01, 2020, 01:39:38 PM
Pretty NEAT piece, that's for sure! NOT $20K neat IMO!
Agreed, dude is dreaming on both items, $5K tops for the wing, the paper items are good for starting a campfire....
I agree with DAY CLONA on the price. Wings normally don't get damaged. If someone is build a clone, they will use Janak and save $18k over what this guy is asking. REALITY CHECK!!!!!
Quote from: cudavic on March 01, 2020, 08:45:47 AM
I think the signatures are more impressive and more valuable than the wing. (see description of documents below)
My big claim to fame is that I have over 600 Union Oil Advertising Releases for the 1969 race season. There were required by each driver to sign before each race so Union Oil had the driver's permission in advance to publish their picture if they won a race or were involved in a crash or other picture worthy event.
I have Richard Petty's signature on 10 of the races that year, one of them he won. I say "signature" because these are legal documents and are not autographs signed for a fan. One of my rarest one is Richard Brickhouse's Release for the first Talladega Race in 1969 which also was the debut race for the Dodge Daytona. He won the race driving Charlie Glotzbach's #99 car because Charlie and many famous racers boycotted the first Talladega race because the track was considered too fast and dangerous for the tires of the day. I also have Don MacTavish's last race and perhaps his last signature before he died in a tragic wreck that you can see on YouTube.
I am looking for someone that may want to buy some or all of that collection. Charles Craig valued it between $50,000 to $70,000. Buz McKim, the historian from the Nascar Hall of Fame, said they are not rare, they are one of a kind, because he had never seen them before. They basically were Union Oil business documents that were discarded several years after each race. I happened to work at the archive that Union Oil used when they were being thrown out. I also have Mario Andretti's release from his 1967 Daytona 500 win.
According to some, better burn them... :rotz: WORTHLESS!!
And I thought the 1970 Nascar driver license of Buddy Baker was cool... Guess I should burn it!
Maybe the original John Pointer Daytona sketch should also burn!
And toss in Harry Hyde's pit clipboard... Used from 1967 to 1972. All valueless!!
All good kindling for the fat 1971 G Series wind tunnel report!
Maybe roll up my original 1969 "Five From The Hive" poster and lite it up, too!!
I also have the original Direct Connection neon light, used on the cover of the 1987 catalog.
Would it burn?? No, it's glass!! (it would eventually melt) But the original transformer to power it might! :lol:
Guess some people don't value history. To each their own. :cheers:
Quote from: odcics2 on March 02, 2020, 09:13:18 AM
Quote from: cudavic on March 01, 2020, 08:45:47 AM
I think the signatures are more impressive and more valuable than the wing. (see description of documents below)
My big claim to fame is that I have over 600 Union Oil Advertising Releases for the 1969 race season. There were required by each driver to sign before each race so Union Oil had the driver's permission in advance to publish their picture if they won a race or were involved in a crash or other picture worthy event.
I have Richard Petty's signature on 10 of the races that year, one of them he won. I say "signature" because these are legal documents and are not autographs signed for a fan. One of my rarest one is Richard Brickhouse's Release for the first Talladega Race in 1969 which also was the debut race for the Dodge Daytona. He won the race driving Charlie Glotzbach's #99 car because Charlie and many famous racers boycotted the first Talladega race because the track was considered too fast and dangerous for the tires of the day. I also have Don MacTavish's last race and perhaps his last signature before he died in a tragic wreck that you can see on YouTube.
I am looking for someone that may want to buy some or all of that collection. Charles Craig valued it between $50,000 to $70,000. Buz McKim, the historian from the Nascar Hall of Fame, said they are not rare, they are one of a kind, because he had never seen them before. They basically were Union Oil business documents that were discarded several years after each race. I happened to work at the archive that Union Oil used when they were being thrown out. I also have Mario Andretti's release from his 1967 Daytona 500 win.
According to some, better burn them... :rotz: WORTHLESS!!
And I thought the 1970 Nascar driver license of Buddy Baker was cool... Guess I should burn it!
Maybe the original John Pointer Daytona sketch should also burn!
And toss in Harry Hyde's pit clipboard... Used from 1967 to 1972. All valueless!!
All good kindling for the fat 1971 G Series wind tunnel report!
Maybe roll up my original 1969 "Five From The Hive" poster and lite it up, too!!
I also have the original Direct Connection neon light, used on the cover of the 1987 catalog.
Would it burn?? No, it's glass!! (it would eventually melt) But the original transformer to power it might! :lol:
Guess some people don't value history. To each their own. :cheers:
I think $20 K could be better spent other than on something that gets laid away and means nothing to but the person that has it and may or may not ever looked at it ! No offense,but do "you" really care what someone else has and does it benefit you ? :shruggy:
Quote from: odcics2 on March 02, 2020, 09:13:18 AM
According to some, better burn them... :rotz: WORTHLESS!!
And I thought the 1970 Nascar driver license of Buddy Baker was cool... Guess I should burn it!
Maybe the original John Pointer Daytona sketch should also burn!
And toss in Harry Hyde's pit clipboard... Used from 1967 to 1972. All valueless!!
All good kindling for the fat 1971 G Series wind tunnel report!
Maybe roll up my original 1969 "Five From The Hive" poster and lite it up, too!!
I also have the original Direct Connection neon light, used on the cover of the 1987 catalog.
Would it burn?? No, it's glass!! (it would eventually melt) But the original transformer to power it might! :lol:
Guess some people don't value history. To each their own. :cheers:
The link below is thread appropriate. :yesnod:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaHEusBG20c&t=20s
BRAVO !
:2thumbs:
Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on March 02, 2020, 02:27:06 PM
Quote from: odcics2 on March 02, 2020, 09:13:18 AM
According to some, better burn them... :rotz: WORTHLESS!!
And I thought the 1970 Nascar driver license of Buddy Baker was cool... Guess I should burn it!
Maybe the original John Pointer Daytona sketch should also burn!
And toss in Harry Hyde's pit clipboard... Used from 1967 to 1972. All valueless!!
All good kindling for the fat 1971 G Series wind tunnel report!
Maybe roll up my original 1969 "Five From The Hive" poster and lite it up, too!!
I also have the original Direct Connection neon light, used on the cover of the 1987 catalog.
Would it burn?? No, it's glass!! (it would eventually melt) But the original transformer to power it might! :lol:
Guess some people don't value history. To each their own. :cheers:
The link below is thread appropriate. :yesnod:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaHEusBG20c&t=20s
Man,if I'd burn anything,it would be that link !! ::)
:smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
:cheers:
:smilielol: :lol: :lol:
I watched about 5 seconds.... but did appreciate the link.
So we saying $5K for a 3-piece NOS bird wing? I though a 3 or 2-piece wing (uprights) sold for a little over $5K a few years back?
Quote from: 62 Max on March 02, 2020, 10:33:55 AM
Quote from: odcics2 on March 02, 2020, 09:13:18 AM
Quote from: cudavic on March 01, 2020, 08:45:47 AM
I think the signatures are more impressive and more valuable than the wing. (see description of documents below)
My big claim to fame is that I have over 600 Union Oil Advertising Releases for the 1969 race season. There were required by each driver to sign before each race so Union Oil had the driver's permission in advance to publish their picture if they won a race or were involved in a crash or other picture worthy event.
I have Richard Petty's signature on 10 of the races that year, one of them he won. I say "signature" because these are legal documents and are not autographs signed for a fan. One of my rarest one is Richard Brickhouse's Release for the first Talladega Race in 1969 which also was the debut race for the Dodge Daytona. He won the race driving Charlie Glotzbach's #99 car because Charlie and many famous racers boycotted the first Talladega race because the track was considered too fast and dangerous for the tires of the day. I also have Don MacTavish's last race and perhaps his last signature before he died in a tragic wreck that you can see on YouTube.
I am looking for someone that may want to buy some or all of that collection. Charles Craig valued it between $50,000 to $70,000. Buz McKim, the historian from the Nascar Hall of Fame, said they are not rare, they are one of a kind, because he had never seen them before. They basically were Union Oil business documents that were discarded several years after each race. I happened to work at the archive that Union Oil used when they were being thrown out. I also have Mario Andretti's release from his 1967 Daytona 500 win.
According to some, better burn them... :rotz: WORTHLESS!!
And I thought the 1970 Nascar driver license of Buddy Baker was cool... Guess I should burn it!
Maybe the original John Pointer Daytona sketch should also burn!
And toss in Harry Hyde's pit clipboard... Used from 1967 to 1972. All valueless!!
All good kindling for the fat 1971 G Series wind tunnel report!
Maybe roll up my original 1969 "Five From The Hive" poster and lite it up, too!!
I also have the original Direct Connection neon light, used on the cover of the 1987 catalog.
Would it burn?? No, it's glass!! (it would eventually melt) But the original transformer to power it might! :lol:
Guess some people don't value history. To each their own. :cheers:
I think $20 K could be better spent other than on something that gets laid away and means nothing to but the person that has it and may or may not ever looked at it ! No offense,but do "you" really care what someone else has and does it benefit you ? :shruggy:
I have a lot of wing car history posted on aerowarriors.com, thanks to Ken Noffsinger. :cheers:
I think history is important.
Yes, I DO care what others have. Hopefully it's in good hands that appreciates it.
Better yet, get it scanned and posted for others to see and appreciate.
I really have an appreciation for one of a kind things! :coolgleamA:
Like I said, to each their own. :2thumbs:
One mans meat is another mans poison!
I love Nostalgia and if I had the money would build a Mopar Museum here in the UK.
I would buy all the 'kindling' at a fair price and display it so anyone who is interested, could see it.
Stuff like this guy is selling is unique as its 'throwaway' so its even rarer than Gold/Silver/Diamonds etc... :drool5: :drool5: :drool5:
Folks pay millions for 'splattered paint' on a piece of cloth and even on a wall these days...
Once its gone ...its gone...can't be remade, cos its original! :pity:
If you don't like 'old stuff' why would you be on a Dodge Charger site in the first place??? :slap:
SCRAP THEM ALL AND BUY A HYBRID... :'( :'( :'( I HEAR some Folks SAYING soon!!! :fireangry:
Quote from: aerolith on March 03, 2020, 09:48:44 AM
If you don't like 'old stuff' why would you be on a Dodge Charger site in the first place??? :slap:
He has a legitimate point...just saying! :yesnod:
Jesus christ.... I payed 1800 for one wing and 1500 for my other one about 5 or so years ago maybe 7 or 8 years. And i thought god damm im getting reamed.... LOLOL I guess it was a smoken deal. :) LOL
Quote from: DoubleDlover on March 08, 2020, 03:48:37 AM
Jesus christ.... I payed 1800 for one wing and 1500 for my other one about 5 or so years ago maybe 7 or 8 years. And i thought god damm im getting reamed.... LOLOL I guess it was a smoken deal. :) LOL
Man, you stole them. How do you sleep at night? :lol:
Quote from: aerolith on March 03, 2020, 09:48:44 AM
One mans meat is another mans poison!
I love Nostalgia and if I had the money would build a Mopar Museum here in the UK.
I would buy all the 'kindling' at a fair price and display it so anyone who is interested, could see it.
Stuff like this guy is selling is unique as its 'throwaway' so its even rarer than Gold/Silver/Diamonds etc... :drool5: :drool5: :drool5:
Folks pay millions for 'splattered paint' on a piece of cloth and even on a wall these days...
Once its gone ...its gone...can't be remade, cos its original! :pity:
If you don't like 'old stuff' why would you be on a Dodge Charger site in the first place??? :slap:
SCRAP THEM ALL AND BUY A HYBRID... :'( :'( :'( I HEAR some Folks SAYING soon!!! :fireangry:
Well, I can't afford a museum, but getting old paperwork on aerowarriors.com is the second best thing.
The Bill Wright Woodward Garage Documents are getting a lot of interest. (see aerowarriors.com for info)
:2thumbs:
It feels a bit strange for me defending Aero parts and historical documentation on an American specialist site.
A 'know nuffing' Limey thousands of miles away, who's never seen a Wingcar going round a 'super-speedway'.
But the thought of it makes the hairs on my neck stand up!!! :2thumbs:
Fifty years on from the glory days of Mother Mopar finest achievements makes me happy to be part of those times with my own four speed C500.
If I had a time machine then I would have found a way to be 'part of the Nascar scene' either as pitcrew, or even a DRIVER!
200mph plus down the straights in a tricked out Charger 500 would seem like a 'rocket-ship' in 69, (like Buzz).
It still amazes me that we were driving Ford Cortina's in the UK and you guys were going to the moon and back... :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
GOD BLESS AMERICA and all her special Mopar Folks... :patriot: :patriot: :patriot:
You know...... Im willing to bet that.... for the price this dude is dreaming about getting for his mr. bitchen wing... You could probably pay a foundry to cast the uprights.. And they would come out GOOD!!!!!!!! You wouldnt be able to tell the difference.. And then for a couple grand more you could probably get an excrusion die made. (what ever you call that and how ever you spell it) And could make the horizonals.... So at first you might be in it a tad more. But to have exact wings made people would love to have them. And at a fair price you could make your money back im willing to bet and then some.....
Quote from: DoubleDlover on March 10, 2020, 04:32:39 AM
You know...... Im willing to bet that.... for the price this dude is dreaming about getting for his mr. bitchen wing... You could probably pay a foundry to cast the uprights.. And they would come out GOOD!!!!!!!! You wouldnt be able to tell the difference.. And then for a couple grand more you could probably get an excrusion die made. (what ever you call that and how ever you spell it) And could make the horizonals.... So at first you might be in it a tad more. But to have exact wings made people would love to have them. And at a fair price you could make your money back im willing to bet and then some.....
Agreed, but why even waste the time and money, 2 SB wing repro mfgs currently have castings out there that are just as good or better than the original, but kudos if the guy can hook a dummy willing to drop $20K for "originality/NOS" bragging rights
The companies that DAY CLONA are talking about make great wings. A little sanding and spray paint and they are better than NOS. The NOS wings go to the small number of collectors who hang them in their collections and they only do this if the wing is priced right. The proof is in the pudding; he hasn't sold them. I repeat: REALITY CHECK!