I've been surprised to learn that a lot of car guys I know do not keep a spare tire in their cars.
I can understand the decision for those with drag or road race cars. Those dude usually only drive to and from the track. Otherwise, to me it makes sense. Some have said that getting a flat is so unusual nowadays, they figure if they were to have a flat, they'd call a towing service.
Screw that...I'd rather not rely on someone else...
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I used to have a 15x6" steel wheel but once I installed a bigger front brake kit, that wheel no longer fit. I needed something 17" diameter at a minimum.
There is nothing OEM that I know of that is a direct fit. The closest that I found is an 18" spare from a 2007 Charger.
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The metric bolt pattern is less than a half mm smaller so this will work as a spare. These are commonly found as most of the 300s, Magnums, Chargers and Challengers use a similar spare if they have one. Some came with a can of fix a flat and a prayer.
The 15" spare I had was on a 7" wide rim, the tire height was picked to be the closest to the height of my rear tires. Those with Locker or SG differentials do need to use a spare with a height close to the tire it replaces to keep the differential from hunting or putting a bias toward the high side.
This space save wheel and tire weighed 21 lbs less than the 15" spare, 38 lbs vs 59.
Every pound of weight loss is beneficial, especially when it has no down side.
For my Dart I'm using a 17 inch spare from a chevy mini-van, got it from the scrap yard, perfect height and bolt pattern.
Quote from: Back N Black on November 30, 2023, 11:51:52 AMFor my Dart I'm using a 17 inch spare from a chevy mini-van, got it from the scrap yard, perfect height and bolt pattern.
Uhhh...What model of Chevrolet uses the same bolt pattern as a Mopar?
I have a spare in the trunk but it's for looks only. It's the original to the car on the original heavy duty steel rim. With about 5 lbs of air. I probably should carry a fix a flat can.
Latelly in Europe is becoming mandatory in case of emergency, take appart at a side of the road, keep inside, and call to the towing service... never leave the car.
The safety triangle mandate is being replaced by a flashing light with a GPS signal which you put on your roof without leave the car... the signal warns to authorities
It will become completely mandatory in 2026.
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It seems latelly lot of deaths on roads comes from this stage, when fixing some issue on cars at a side of the roads, still having the emergency triangle in place and carrying the reflective vest (both mandatory to have on car of course).
So I guess the need for a tire replacement will be slowly forgotten. I think even some new cars nowdays doesn't carry anymore the replacement or the room for it.
Yeah....GREAT. More nanny state crap.
I'll pass.
I got a full size spare, 12V air pump and aftermarket jack/lug nut wrench along with one of those 12V jump doodads.
yes keep a spare :yesnod: !
all 5 wheels are the same size 15x8 with 4 inch back space
all 5 tires are same size 255/60/15
a wheel & tire that size in the trunk will not fit in stock location , so i fabricated a new spare hold down bracket & moved it to the right a few inches & rear ward a little just enough that it would fit & still kind of look factory :-\
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I like changes that look so good, they could have been a factory effort. That does look good.
Since I'm also running 255/60-15s on all 4 corners but on 7" rally wheels, I searched for the smaller width tire as posible but meeting the diameter ( since I'm also running on SG ) to fit on stock replacement 15" steel wheel and found a trailer tire as option, saving some room, weight and being easier to handle when trying to get it out from the trunk.
Unfortunately can't recall the size I got and I'm something like 7K miles from my car LOL.
Some kind of space saver spare would be the way to go. Full size spare is a through back to the days of bias ply tires when we rotated the spare in order to try and get 10000 miles from a set of tires.
Ford fits Plymouth. So I got a spare tire out of a Lincoln town car and put it in the trunk of my charger. Only for short- distance and I've never used it. Because the Hub had to be ground out a little bit. Which I hear is a very bad idea but some people are doing.
For a temporary spare, it is fine.
Grinding out the center to fit over a Mopar hub then puts the wheel mounting studs as the load carrying members. Engineers will tell you that wheels need to be HUB centric but have you ever seen the millions of trucks and 4wds with LUG centric wheels? These are heavier vehicles than ours and I've seen no huge increase of failures with them.
Same about unilug wheels... they don't support on center hub
I've ran hub centric, lug centric and unilug wheels and none of them were a problem.
The only time I lost a wheel was when I was 19 and had '82 Z28 wheels on my 73 Camaro. I used the lug nuts that came from the '82. I didn't know they were metric....THAT was embarrassing.
I bought a new Z/28 in 77. It was totaled before the 1st payment was due. :eek2:
That is terrible!
The 70-81 Camaros were good street cars.