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Title: What should i do
Post by: Slypnslyd on December 09, 2018, 07:59:36 PM
Got my hands on a 69 Charger
Needs driver side quarter replaced , trunk floor
Motor and transmission ,hood ,front buckets, and console

I decoded so far ...should i put date correct 6 cyl
Or should i pro tour it ?

VIN # XP29C9C261560
X-Charger
P-Premium
29-two door sports hardtop (charger)
C-special order 6 Cylinder (69)
9-1969
C-Jefferson MI USA
261560- sequential build number

Plate under hood
W21 performance hood treatment (special order)
D31 69-71 A904 3spd auto transmission
R11 am radio 2watts
V1W V1w=white top w=White
26
End
01 ? Light package
B51 69-71 power brakes
C16 69-71 console w/wood grain panel
C55 69-71 Bucket seats
H51 69-71 Air Conditioning
L31  hood fender mount turn signal
B5
B5
C6w
W1
506
240051
E61
D32 69-71 heavy duty automatic transmission
Xp29
G9G
261560
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: Slypnslyd on December 09, 2018, 08:04:30 PM
Here is a pic
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: 70 sublime on December 09, 2018, 08:13:57 PM
Does the fender tag have the same VIN as on the dash ?
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: 70 sublime on December 09, 2018, 08:21:23 PM
It will be worth more and more fun if you went big block
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: Slypnslyd on December 09, 2018, 08:43:26 PM
Both tags match
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: hemi-hampton on December 09, 2018, 09:40:26 PM
pro tour it :scratchchin:
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: chargervert on December 09, 2018, 10:31:54 PM
That is the perfect car to build whatever you want out of it!
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: Mopar Nut on December 10, 2018, 12:38:07 AM
Install a Hellephant in it... :thumbs:

https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-shows/sema-show/a24442248/mopars-hellephant-is-a-1000-hp-hellcat-crate-engine-taken-to-the-extreme/
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: JB400 on December 10, 2018, 12:55:08 AM
Nothing wrong with another orange 69 :D
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: 6bblgt on December 10, 2018, 01:19:44 AM
you are interpreting some of it incorrectly:

VIN # XP29G9G261560
X-Charger
P-Premium
29-two door sports hardtop (charger)
G-special order 6 Cylinder (69) 383 2bbl
9-1969
G-Jefferson MI USA St. Louis, MO USA
261560- sequential build number

Plate under hood
M21 performance hood treatment (special order) drip trough mouldings
M31 69-71 A904 3spd auto transmission belt mouldings
R11 am radio 2watts
V1W V1W=vinyl top W=White
26
End
A01 Light package
B51 69-71 power brakes
C16 69-71 console w/wood grain panel
C55 69-71 Bucket seats
H51 69-71 Air Conditioning
L31  hood fender mount turn signal
B5
B5
C6W
W1
506
240051
E61
D32 69-71 heavy duty automatic transmission
XP29
G9G
261560
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: kab69440 on December 10, 2018, 01:46:50 AM
Isn't "H" a 383-2v?
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: JB400 on December 10, 2018, 01:47:24 AM
4bbl
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: Ghoste on December 10, 2018, 08:27:26 AM
6bblgt is correct, this is a 383 two barrel car.  I would put it back fairly close to stock personally because Im still a bit of a purist and already tired of the pro tour resto mod cars.  But it isnt my carso you should do whatver will give you the most long term fun.   :2thumbs:
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: Mytur Binsdirti on December 10, 2018, 08:55:03 AM
Quote from: Slypnslyd on December 09, 2018, 08:04:30 PM
Here is a pic

There's two pictured, so which roach did you buy; the roached out parts car in the background or the primer roach in the foreground?

Personally, I don't see how anyone can give any informed advice based on that one crappy picture.
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: Challenger340 on December 10, 2018, 10:33:07 AM
It's your $50-60K you are going to spend all said/done restoring(minimum), so whatever floats your boat on the blank canvass ?
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: JR on December 10, 2018, 03:13:07 PM
Build it how you want, there doesn't seem to be any demand for slant 6s. It's a cool conversation piece, but I doubt many people are out there scouring the market for slant 6 b bodies.

I'd be tempted to 2jz it if it were mine. It's still a six, with all the power you could want.
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: Y1CHARGER on December 10, 2018, 03:27:17 PM
Quote from: 6bblgt on December 10, 2018, 01:19:44 AM
you are interpreting some of it incorrectly:

VIN # XP29G9G261560
X-Charger
P-Premium
29-two door sports hardtop (charger)
G-special order 6 Cylinder (69) 383 2bbl
9-1969
G-Jefferson MI USA St. Louis, MO USA
261560- sequential build number

Plate under hood
M21 performance hood treatment (special order) drip trough mouldings
M31 69-71 A904 3spd auto transmission belt mouldings
R11 am radio 2watts
V1W V1W=vinyl top W=White
26
End
A01 Light package
B51 69-71 power brakes
C16 69-71 console w/wood grain panel
C55 69-71 Bucket seats
H51 69-71 Air Conditioning
L31  hood fender mount turn signal
B5
B5
C6W
W1
506
240051
E61
D32 69-71 heavy duty automatic transmission
XP29
G9G
261560

:iagree: Fender tag has G9G so dash is probably being misread, Build it anyway you want :2thumbs:
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: tan top on December 10, 2018, 04:22:18 PM
 hello & welcome !  :cheers:
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: chargervert on December 10, 2018, 05:02:17 PM
Even though it is a 383 2 barrel car,without the original engine and transmission being present, I still say it is the perfect car to build whatever you want out of it. 
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: Nacho-RT74 on December 10, 2018, 05:21:34 PM
I was thinking myself... 6 cylinders and performance hood treatment? something fishy there LOL
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: 70 sublime on December 10, 2018, 08:11:24 PM
Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on December 10, 2018, 05:21:34 PM
I was thinking myself... 6 cylinders and performance hood treatment? something fishy there LOL

That is why I asked if vin and fender tag had the same numbers
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: Slypnslyd on December 11, 2018, 09:15:34 AM
The one I'm getting is the one in the background
The pics of the tags are to big to post
I have a motor and transmission lined up already going to put a big lock into it
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: Homerr on December 11, 2018, 10:37:49 AM
Quote from: Challenger340 on December 10, 2018, 10:33:07 AM
It's your $50-60K you are going to spend all said/done restoring(minimum), so whatever floats your boat on the blank canvass ?

This.  But I think pro-tour will cost even more.  Lots of stock parts work just fine and more change = more $$.
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: Mytur Binsdirti on December 11, 2018, 07:20:46 PM
Behold your destiny.............

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-Dodge-Charger/283300101788?hash=item41f6007e9c:g:UOcAAOSwUPVb8wJK:rk:3:pf:0&vxp=mtr
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: Back N Black on December 11, 2018, 07:36:31 PM
Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on December 10, 2018, 08:55:03 AM
Quote from: Slypnslyd on December 09, 2018, 08:04:30 PM
Here is a pic

There's two pictured, so which roach did you buy; the roached out parts car in the background or the primer roach in the foreground?

Personally, I don't see how anyone can give any informed advice based on that one crappy picture.

Fuck man your rude! We all can't afford what is sitting in your garage.
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: Nacho-RT74 on December 11, 2018, 08:50:22 PM
Quote from: Back N Black on December 11, 2018, 07:36:31 PM
Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on December 10, 2018, 08:55:03 AM
Quote from: Slypnslyd on December 09, 2018, 08:04:30 PM
Here is a pic

There's two pictured, so which roach did you buy; the roached out parts car in the background or the primer roach in the foreground?

Personally, I don't see how anyone can give any informed advice based on that one crappy picture.

Fuck man your rude! We all can't afford what is sitting in your garage.

:iagree:
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: Mytur Binsdirti on December 11, 2018, 10:29:51 PM
Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on December 11, 2018, 08:50:22 PM
Quote from: Back N Black on December 11, 2018, 07:36:31 PM
Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on December 10, 2018, 08:55:03 AM
Quote from: Slypnslyd on December 09, 2018, 08:04:30 PM
Here is a pic

There's two pictured, so which roach did you buy; the roached out parts car in the background or the primer roach in the foreground?

Personally, I don't see how anyone can give any informed advice based on that one crappy picture.

Fuck man your rude! We all can't afford what is sitting in your garage.

:iagree:


Call me rude, but I'm a realist and someone's got to be the voice of reason around here. Unlike many others, I'm not going to encourage this guy to jump into something that is most likely as bad, if not worse than that yellow '68 on ebay, and especially based on that one crappy picture he has posted. And no offense to the OP & his photography skills, but it is a crappy picture.

Might as well add this guy in as being rude also....

Quote from: Challenger340 on December 10, 2018, 10:33:07 AM
It's your $50-60K you are going to spend all said/done restoring(minimum), so whatever floats your boat on the blank canvass ?

I must really be missing something, so can someone please point out that car's attributes to me? Might as well pick out the car's bad points as well.  

So you don't have to flip the page back, here it is...

(http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=134269.0;attach=292079;image)








Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: Kern Dog on December 11, 2018, 10:58:01 PM
The INexperienced always seem to think that they are going to save money by buying a stripped out turd and building it up from parts car and swap meet scores. It rarely works out because many cars have ONE YEAR ONLY parts that can be hard to find. Also, unless you have experience, you often don't even know what is missing until you try to assemble the car.
Would you rather have a collection of people encouraging you despite the enormous financial mountain you are about to climb.....OR one or two people telling you the truth?
People bash on millenials for being entitiled, delusional and for thinking that they are special. Telling you GO for it, man...You'll do just fine! Is the same thing that resulted in the jerkoff millenial generation.
The truth is, unless you have excellent automotive skills, can weld, build engines AND have some really good contacts for buying ONE YEAR ONLY parts, this is a project that you may never finish, one that may end up being listed on craigslist in a few years.
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: 70 sublime on December 11, 2018, 11:14:42 PM
Every one needs to have a first Charger before they can have second or third
Looks like the perfect car to learn on
Not all cars need to be show room perfect like most seem to think need to happen around here
Do what you can and learn from it

I have never had a perfect Charger and probably never will
The non perfect ones can still spin the tires and make lots of noise and you can park them in a parking lot and come back out without worrying so much who might breath on it when not around

You do not need to add $50 000 to fix a car to have a fun car when $10 000 will get you going  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: hemi-hampton on December 12, 2018, 12:30:27 AM
There is a famous line in one of my Favorite Movies. And that is "you can't tell people anything, they won't listen or believe you, they have to learn it for themselves" So true, But by then it's to late. hindsight is 20/20. LEON.
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: Nacho-RT74 on December 12, 2018, 07:05:43 AM
Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on December 11, 2018, 10:29:51 PM
Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on December 11, 2018, 08:50:22 PM
Quote from: Back N Black on December 11, 2018, 07:36:31 PM
Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on December 10, 2018, 08:55:03 AM
Quote from: Slypnslyd on December 09, 2018, 08:04:30 PM
Here is a pic

There's two pictured, so which roach did you buy; the roached out parts car in the background or the primer roach in the foreground?

Personally, I don't see how anyone can give any informed advice based on that one crappy picture.

Fuck man your rude! We all can't afford what is sitting in your garage.

:iagree:


Call me rude, but I'm a realist and someone's got to be the voice of reason around here. Unlike many others, I'm not going to encourage this guy to jump into something that is most likely as bad, if not worse than that yellow '68 on ebay, and especially based on that one crappy picture he has posted. And no offense to the OP & his photography skills, but it is a crappy picture.

Might as well add this guy in as being rude also....

Quote from: Challenger340 on December 10, 2018, 10:33:07 AM
It's your $50-60K you are going to spend all said/done restoring(minimum), so whatever floats your boat on the blank canvass ?

I must really be missing something, so can someone please point out that car's attributes to me? Might as well pick out the car's bad points as well.   

So you don't have to flip the page back, here it is...

(http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=134269.0;attach=292079;image)










true BUT there is ways to say the same thing being more "pedagogical" and not just shitting out from your mouth, specially to those who don't know you! ( because we all know you are kinda "special" to say things! )

something like this sounds better and is saying more than just shitting out:

Quote from: Kern Dog on December 11, 2018, 10:58:01 PM
The INexperienced always seem to think that they are going to save money by buying a stripped out turd and building it up from parts car and swap meet scores. It rarely works out because many cars have ONE YEAR ONLY parts that can be hard to find. Also, unless you have experience, you often don't even know what is missing until you try to assemble the car.
Would you rather have a collection of people encouraging you despite the enormous financial mountain you are about to climb.....OR one or two people telling you the truth?
People bash on millenials for being entitiled, delusional and for thinking that they are special. Telling you GO for it, man...You'll do just fine! Is the same thing that resulted in the jerkoff millenial generation.
The truth is, unless you have excellent automotive skills, can weld, build engines AND have some really good contacts for buying ONE YEAR ONLY parts, this is a project that you may never finish, one that may end up being listed on craigslist in a few years.

Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: Homerr on December 12, 2018, 08:52:45 AM
I don't mind Mytur, although I wouldn't call him the voice of reason.   :laugh:

The way I look at it is that Chargers, 68-70 in particular, are a finite resource.  If someone wants to buy a rusty hulk and put some time and effort (and $$) in on it to keep it from returning to the earth then go for it.  Think of Chargers like having a carbon footprint, except as a 'cash footprint'.  Well the rusty ones are in the hole by a large amount, Mytur is really just pointing this out.  But would you rather they be crushed?  Or go through the hands of a several dreamers in a dozen years and still exist when they will be even more finite?  Maybe enough people will compile enough parts to one day make a particular Charger within reach for someone to actually restore.
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: Mytur Binsdirti on December 12, 2018, 11:42:49 AM
Quote from: Homerr on December 12, 2018, 08:52:45 AM
I don't mind Mytur, although I wouldn't call him the voice of reason.   :laugh:




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Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: CDN72SE on December 12, 2018, 12:59:29 PM
Welcome to the site, throw some more pictures up when you have the chance. Once you get everything stripped down you will have a better idea of what you are working with.
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: Slypnslyd on December 12, 2018, 04:21:31 PM
2jz is still an open option was just talking to my buddy about that ....but got a big lock from a buddy of mine
But who knows still in the beginning stages
Needs drivers quarter ,1/2 trunk floor and 2 spots i need to replace on 
Passenger side
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: hemi-hampton on December 12, 2018, 10:54:55 PM
What is 2jz :shruggy: Some kind of Morse code :shruggy: :scratchchin: :brickwall:
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: Kern Dog on December 13, 2018, 12:06:12 AM
I think it is a Japanese turbo straight six.
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: Mytur Binsdirti on December 13, 2018, 06:58:54 AM
Quote from: hemi-hampton on December 12, 2018, 10:54:55 PM
What is 2jz :shruggy: Some kind of Morse code :shruggy: :scratchchin: :brickwall:


My guess is that it's some sort of abstract millennial text-speak; something us old timers (over age 50) know nothing about.
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: Slypnslyd on December 13, 2018, 08:13:18 AM
Just to set the record straight to Mr. know it all charger this is not the first or last rebuild I'm doing from scratch .
I don't really care what you have in your garage.
I just finished restoring a 70 Cuda that we replaced almost every panel .
Unlike Mr.know it all i do all the work myself .
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: Lennard on December 13, 2018, 08:59:13 AM
Just try to ignore the trolls. Some people have more money than brains.
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: Mytur Binsdirti on December 13, 2018, 09:25:01 AM
Quote from: Lennard on December 13, 2018, 08:59:13 AM
  Some people have more money than brains.


And some people are just thieves.
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: Slypnslyd on December 13, 2018, 09:59:08 AM
Again to piss off a true Mopar enthusiast like Mr. Mopar
I will build ...MY CAR... they way i want to build it instead
Of buying it done ....a true enthusiast wouldn't trash someone's build
But would rather assist and be happy that another charger will be saved
Instead of being crushed ....
Thank you everyone else for your assistance
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: Lennard on December 13, 2018, 10:07:13 AM
Quote from: Slypnslyd on December 13, 2018, 09:59:08 AM
Again to piss off a true Mopar enthusiast like Mr. Mopar
I will build ...MY CAR... they way i want to build it instead
Of buying it done ....a true enthusiast wouldn't trash someone's build
But would rather assist and be happy that another charger will be saved
Instead of being crushed ....
Thank you everyone else for your assistance
100% true :2thumbs:
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: Chad L. Magee on December 13, 2018, 10:29:06 AM
Quote from: JR on December 10, 2018, 03:13:07 PM
It's a cool conversation piece, but I doubt many people are out there scouring the market for slant 6 b bodies.

I happen to be one of those few people keeping my eyes peeled for second gen /6 Chargers, especially a 1970 Charger 500 version (or the missing one of one 1970 Charger 500 SE with the /6).  Of course, I am bias because I already have one in my stash of projects.  I think it would be interesting to have a set of /6 Chargers from each year of production setting side by side, as only a few have likely ever seen that done before, including back in the day.
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: Lennard on December 13, 2018, 10:35:09 AM
Chris (cbrestorations) had a red '68 for a couple months and quickly sold it to a buddy of his. He was tired of being passed by Geo Metros and school buses. :lol:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U8WA9r2onx4&t=1600s
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: Challenger340 on December 13, 2018, 11:42:51 AM
I reiterate, and at the risk of my once again being perceived as "rude", which really is NOT my intent here, rather just trying illustrate the reality..... to expectations when undertaking such projects ?

Quote from: Challenger340 on December 10, 2018, 10:33:07 AM
It's your $50-60K you are going to spend all said/done restoring(minimum), so whatever floats your boat on the blank canvass ?

without which,
lest the end result be, what has already been so eloquently exampled here:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-Dodge-Charger/283300101788?hash=item41f6007e9c:g:UOcAAOSwUPVb8wJK:rk:3:pf:0&vxp=mtr

Again, no "rude" or otherwise disrectful ill intent from me here with your build ?

And I don't think others have any real ill intent either ? beyond just trying to illustrate the reality in experience for many, that these projects can often turn into a "spend until done" undertaking, that many in hindsight wish they had never started at the outset.

As long as you are cognizant of what you are getting into.... and have confidence in your abilities to do alot of the work yourself.... build your project as you see fit.

LOTS of smart guys here on this site, with TONS of knowledge that many will be only too happy to share/help as you move forward.  :2thumbs:

Here's a great link/good read as reference
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,104414.0.html
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: John Milner on December 13, 2018, 12:05:08 PM
I would go for it if the frame rails are all solid and if the title will be easy enough to get.  These days finding an affordable 68-70 Charger is easier said than done.  If you can do all of the work yourself, you won't have a ridiculous amount of money invested in the car.  It starts to get very expensive when you hire the paint/body work done, the engine assembly, transmission/rear axle rebuilding, hire someone to assemble the car, things like that.  Replacing a quarter panel is really not that difficult of a task if you can use a welder.  The hardest part will be tracking down any parts that it might need. An original hood might be difficult and pricy to find.  Correct 69 style bucket seats will be difficult to find and pricy as well.  I bought a car similar to what you are looking at and it is almost on the road.  It is just a driver but I have nowhere near $50,000 in the restoration.  I don't even have $20,000 invested in the whole car.  I didn't hire a single thing other than machine work on my 440 done though.  I personally would rather have a car like you are looking at so there aren't any surprises.  You could go buy a shiny expensive Charger off of Ebay but you wouldn't know for sure what was hiding under the shiny paint or inside of the engine.  I also like working on them though.  If you don't like working on cars, a car like this wouldn't be for you. If you enjoy rebuilding them, I'd say go for it.   
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: Nacho-RT74 on December 13, 2018, 03:24:10 PM
Quote from: Challenger340 on December 13, 2018, 11:42:51 AM
I reiterate, and at the risk of my once again being perceived as "rude", which really is NOT my intent here, rather just trying illustrate the reality..... to expectations when undertaking such projects ?


I think part of the deal is not what is said but how its being said ;) and we have first characters around here not specially soft talking, specially to somebody who doesn't know who is each one of us.

Several members here has being educated to say the same... but one of us, as usually the same who find out the quick key to get the same conflicts with regularity ;)

( I really don't care, is just about how is everyone of us and take it or leave it, but some others do care )
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: c00nhunterjoe on December 13, 2018, 03:35:40 PM
I dont think turbin wastrying to be an ass. The op asked for an opinion on what to do with the car and posted a... well we will call it less then stellar picture of the said project. I have rusty junk in my garage. Actually its not rusty cause i have gallons of bondo in it covered in tractor supply tractor paint.... so i guess that means that makes me the voice of reason?  If so, based on that picture, the car is barely able to be classified as a shell. So do whatever the hell you want with it. Cause i would. But people say im crazy for some of the stuff i do. A purist would say i ruined my car because its orange with an 01 on the door ignoring every other aspect of the car. Bottom line- i dont give a shit, and neither should you. Build it, spend more money on it then its worth, and have fun doing it. Thats the way the hobby works.
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: c00nhunterjoe on December 13, 2018, 03:46:42 PM
Quote from: John Milner on December 13, 2018, 12:05:08 PM
I would go for it if the frame rails are all solid and if the title will be easy enough to get.  These days finding an affordable 68-70 Charger is easier said than done.  If you can do all of the work yourself, you won't have a ridiculous amount of money invested in the car.  It starts to get very expensive when you hire the paint/body work done, the engine assembly, transmission/rear axle rebuilding, hire someone to assemble the car, things like that.  Replacing a quarter panel is really not that difficult of a task if you can use a welder.  The hardest part will be tracking down any parts that it might need. An original hood might be difficult and pricy to find.  Correct 69 style bucket seats will be difficult to find and pricy as well.  I bought a car similar to what you are looking at and it is almost on the road.  It is just a driver but I have nowhere near $50,000 in the restoration.  I don't even have $20,000 invested in the whole car.  I didn't hire a single thing other than machine work on my 440 done though.  I personally would rather have a car like you are looking at so there aren't any surprises.  You could go buy a shiny expensive Charger off of Ebay but you wouldn't know for sure what was hiding under the shiny paint or inside of the engine.  I also like working on them though.  If you don't like working on cars, a car like this wouldn't be for you. If you enjoy rebuilding them, I'd say go for it.   

Complete factory frame rails are available and cheaper then a single quarter panel. Budget should be the only deciding factor with a 69 charger. Starting from dead scrstch shell, it is not hard to be over 100 thousand to restore it "properly".
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: Mytur Binsdirti on December 13, 2018, 03:51:25 PM
Quote from: c00nhunterjoe on December 13, 2018, 03:35:40 PM
I dont think turbin wastrying to be an ass. The op asked for an opinion on what to do with the car and posted a... well we will call it less then stellar picture of the said project. 

Of course not. Only an ass would think I was being an ass.
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: John Milner on December 13, 2018, 05:33:44 PM
Quote from: c00nhunterjoe on December 13, 2018, 03:46:42 PM
Quote from: John Milner on December 13, 2018, 12:05:08 PM
I would go for it if the frame rails are all solid and if the title will be easy enough to get.  These days finding an affordable 68-70 Charger is easier said than done.  If you can do all of the work yourself, you won't have a ridiculous amount of money invested in the car.  It starts to get very expensive when you hire the paint/body work done, the engine assembly, transmission/rear axle rebuilding, hire someone to assemble the car, things like that.  Replacing a quarter panel is really not that difficult of a task if you can use a welder.  The hardest part will be tracking down any parts that it might need. An original hood might be difficult and pricy to find.  Correct 69 style bucket seats will be difficult to find and pricy as well.  I bought a car similar to what you are looking at and it is almost on the road.  It is just a driver but I have nowhere near $50,000 in the restoration.  I don't even have $20,000 invested in the whole car.  I didn't hire a single thing other than machine work on my 440 done though.  I personally would rather have a car like you are looking at so there aren't any surprises.  You could go buy a shiny expensive Charger off of Ebay but you wouldn't know for sure what was hiding under the shiny paint or inside of the engine.  I also like working on them though.  If you don't like working on cars, a car like this wouldn't be for you. If you enjoy rebuilding them, I'd say go for it.   

Complete factory frame rails are available and cheaper then a single quarter panel. Budget should be the only deciding factor with a 69 charger. Starting from dead scrstch shell, it is not hard to be over 100 thousand to restore it "properly".

They may be cheaper but I would say that they are probably a little more difficult to install properly.  I would much rather start with a car that only needed a quarter panel installed as opposed to one that needed the frame rails replaced.  I'm just glad my improperly restored Charger didn't need them.
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: Slypnslyd on December 13, 2018, 06:59:52 PM
I am trying to figure out on how to post pics on this site ... i will show my work and progress
I have been on many forums and have never had members act this way , i understand that
There are a lot of Mopar purists that will dislike things that people do , but again another Charger being saved
Isn't this one of the reasons we are here to save and enjoy and teach the future generations to adore
What's being done to these vehicles be it %100 stock or %100 custom.
I can spend a $1 Or $1000000 to finish my car
Yes it needs work , yes in someone's eyes it's a rust bucket , but remember with time and patience anything can be done who knows maybe it can become one of SEMA's battle of the builders winners or a rust bucket sitting in a garage bottom line i thank all for the compliments and all for the insults ...

Talk to you guys as i progress or need assistance
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: c00nhunterjoe on December 13, 2018, 07:13:24 PM
Quote from: Slypnslyd on December 13, 2018, 06:59:52 PM
I am trying to figure out on how to post pics on this site ... i will show my work and progress
I have been on many forums and have never had members act this way , i understand that
There are a lot of Mopar purists that will dislike things that people do , but again another Charger being saved
Isn't this one of the reasons we are here to save and enjoy and teach the future generations to adore
What's being done to these vehicles be it %100 stock or %100 custom.
I can spend a $1 Or $1000000 to finish my car
Yes it needs work , yes in someone's eyes it's a rust bucket , but remember with time and patience anything can be done who knows maybe it can become one of SEMA's battle of the builders winners or a rust bucket sitting in a garage bottom line i thank all for the compliments and all for the insults ...

Talk to you guys as i progress or need assistance


Thats alot of zeros... lol. I love pictures and pissing purists off
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: hemi-hampton on December 13, 2018, 08:37:03 PM
Go for it & have fun doing it. LEON.
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: 70 sublime on December 13, 2018, 09:55:02 PM
Some hints on the pictures but the size is now up to 400 instead of 200

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,80380.0.html

Just make sure you have a unique name on each picture and if you tried to post it and it did not work you will have to change the name and try again
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: JB400 on December 13, 2018, 10:18:09 PM
It's easy to take things on the web the wrong way.
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: Slypnslyd on December 13, 2018, 10:19:59 PM
Here i my last project
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: Slypnslyd on December 13, 2018, 10:21:18 PM
Few more
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: Slypnslyd on December 13, 2018, 10:23:17 PM
Here are some more
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: Kern Dog on December 13, 2018, 11:40:57 PM
Hey! You got it figured out...Good for you. SCORE !  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: Mopar Nut on December 14, 2018, 03:09:00 AM
Nice! How do you get them to hang upside down.   :icon_smile_big:
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: Slypnslyd on December 14, 2018, 10:52:28 AM
Hang what upside down?
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: 70 sublime on December 14, 2018, 11:14:48 AM
Quote from: Slypnslyd on December 14, 2018, 10:52:28 AM
Hang what upside down?
A couple pictures you posted are upside down
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: Slypnslyd on December 14, 2018, 11:55:41 AM
70 sublime they look right to me
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: Nacho-RT74 on December 14, 2018, 12:30:11 PM
I see those also upside down, at least from my PC
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: Slypnslyd on December 14, 2018, 12:33:00 PM
Sorry guys but on my phone there the right way
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: Nacho-RT74 on December 14, 2018, 12:49:19 PM
weird stuff coming from phones
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: Mopar Nut on December 14, 2018, 03:24:06 PM
Quote from: Slypnslyd on December 14, 2018, 11:55:41 AM
70 sublime they look right to me

Nice looking car, some phones flip pictures when posting, no big deal.
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: hemi-hampton on December 15, 2018, 05:32:11 PM
The pics are kinda small. LEON.
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: DanielRobert on December 30, 2018, 09:31:11 PM
I don't post much. Kinda just like to read and learn stuff. I find these forums turn into the same 4 or 5 people trying to humor themselves. You wanted a car, you sound like you know how much these things cost and you decided it's worth it to you to do it yourself. I doubt if the same jokers who always have an opinion on this site restored their cars themselves for some small change. Yes, it can be expensive, but we know that. If no one bought and restored these things, the jokers wouldn't have cars. Good luck to you and enjoy the ride.
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: c00nhunterjoe on December 30, 2018, 09:48:04 PM
Quote from: DanielRobert on December 30, 2018, 09:31:11 PM
I don't post much. Kinda just like to read and learn stuff. I find these forums turn into the same 4 or 5 people trying to humor themselves. You wanted a car, you sound like you know how much these things cost and you decided it's worth it to you to do it yourself. I doubt if the same jokers who always have an opinion on this site restored their cars themselves for some small change. Yes, it can be expensive, but we know that. If no one bought and restored these things, the jokers wouldn't have cars. Good luck to you and enjoy the ride.

Yes, i do my own work. Does that still make my humor and opinion invalid to you still?
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: DanielRobert on December 30, 2018, 10:10:52 PM
Not really speaking to you(that I know of). If your doin your own thing, great. And if someone else wants to do their own thing, thats great too. The whole "what should I do" thing is a matter of the knowledge of how much it'll cost( positive and negative). Opinions are great....when offered to help out someone instead of ripping on them. Again, not speaking to you (that I know of)
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: Slypnslyd on December 30, 2018, 10:16:49 PM
Not to trash anyone buying them or building them we should just be glad another one is being saved no matter what there will alway be trash talk and praise either way I'm not offended by people's remarks , opinions , likes and dislikes I'm here to enjoy building and sooner or later driving what we all enjoy our 2nd generation Chargers Or whatever is in your garage .
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: DanielRobert on December 30, 2018, 10:22:57 PM
Nicely said
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: c00nhunterjoe on December 31, 2018, 03:11:34 PM
Quote from: DanielRobert on December 30, 2018, 10:10:52 PM
Not really speaking to you(that I know of). If your doin your own thing, great. And if someone else wants to do their own thing, thats great too. The whole "what should I do" thing is a matter of the knowledge of how much it'll cost( positive and negative). Opinions are great....when offered to help out someone instead of ripping on them. Again, not speaking to you (that I know of)

Fair enough. But the message sent was that the common posters on this forum are jokers who probably bought their cars and cant do their own work... i think i am one of the more common posters who does tend to have strong vocal opinions. But they are based on my own factual experiences. Does not mean my way is the only way, just one of the ways that does tend to work well. Sometimes i can sound harsh. Thats one of the downfalls of the keyboard. But other times i purposely do not sugarcoat answers to make a point. Alot of the "what should i do" posts go nose up to any and all expertise opinions given, then the op comes back sour because they did it their way and it didnt work and people are less outgoing to continue helping. It usually comes down to shortcuts to save money and it almost always bites you in the butt. Most of us try to make that brutally clear that if you intend to own a 2nd gen charger, you are going to spend ALOT of money restoring it the right way.
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: hemi-hampton on December 31, 2018, 10:21:39 PM
Quote from: hemi-hampton on December 12, 2018, 10:54:55 PM
What is 2jz :shruggy: Some kind of Morse code :shruggy: :scratchchin: :brickwall:





Nobody answered my question :scratchchin: :shruggy:
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: INTMD8 on December 31, 2018, 11:15:50 PM
Quote from: hemi-hampton on December 31, 2018, 10:21:39 PM
Quote from: hemi-hampton on December 12, 2018, 10:54:55 PM
What is 2jz :shruggy: Some kind of Morse code :shruggy: :scratchchin: :brickwall:





Nobody answered my question :scratchchin: :shruggy:

2JZ is a toyota supra turbo inline 6 engine. 
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: hemi-hampton on December 31, 2018, 11:34:35 PM
How in the Hell would I know that, I'm a Mopar guy, Not a Toyota guy :scratchchin: :shruggy: :brickwall:
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: Kern Dog on January 01, 2019, 12:37:33 AM
Yeah...why would any legit Mopar guy shove a Jap engine in a Mopar?
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: INTMD8 on January 01, 2019, 01:09:44 PM
Quote from: Kern Dog on January 01, 2019, 12:37:33 AM
Yeah...why would any legit Mopar guy shove a Jap engine in a Mopar?

To piss off legit Mopar guys? 

Not sure, I wouldn't.
Title: Re: What should i do
Post by: Lennard on January 01, 2019, 03:02:41 PM
Quote from: Kern Dog on January 01, 2019, 12:37:33 AM
Yeah...why would any legit Mopar guy shove a Jap engine in a Mopar?
Who the f#ck is Japan?