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What it means...
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,129297.0.html
Troy
Everything has to deal with money. :shruggy: :brickwall: :brickwall: Special thanks to you Troy for keeping this site the way it is. :cheers:
Yes 3 days ago they locked out most of the pictures in my Modern Bullitt thread with no warning :-(
Pat
Thanks Troy, I missed it.
Same here. Just noticed it myself yesterday. Sucks but oh well. I will use TinyPic.com from this point moving forward until they decide to do something.
TinyPic is no picnic either, especially if you don't have an add blocker. Also every other pic you upload you have to enter a code that they provide you. I don't even have an account with them, all I do is upload a pic and it's free for anyone on the web to look at. Then I copy & paste the link and store in a file with the matching pic. Then when I want to retrieve the pic later on, I will copy & paste the link in my address bar and it takes me right to that photo. If you lose the link it would be very hard to find your pic unless you categorize it uniquely in which I do not. I leave my images unnamed, usually I just use the default date/time ID tag for the pic.
In there you will have 4 options for posting pics. HTML, IMG Code, URL and Direct link. As you know in here you use the IMG code. You click on the option you want to use and it automatically highlights the entire link. Then right click, copy and then paste it to it's designation. I've done it, it works. I just checked a pic I posted about two years ago and it's still there. Basically it's just a website link. Like I said I didn't sign up for an account. So it's a free for all for anyone to view. The only way someone's going to view my pics (not that I care anyway) is if someone stumbles upon it while looking at other pics. So I will never post anything sensitive in there. I never did that on PhotoBucket either where I do have an account.
This is not for everyone because there is work involved. You have to be organized saving pic/files/links so that you can retrieve the photos. I'm curious to see how TinyPic would work if you were to register, but I'm not willing to try it just yet. I will piggyback them with the system I have in play. Hopefully not too many PhotoBucket rejects don't overflow TinyPic and then they start changing their ways.
Below is a screenshot of one of my TinyPic pictures to give you an example.
:cheers:
So pissed off. Every pic Ive ever posted om here is now just that round symbol....bastards!!!
Quote from: alfaitalia on July 01, 2017, 02:33:26 AM
So pissed off. Every pic Ive ever posted om here is now just that round symbol....bastards!!!
After you play the game for many years, now you must play their game their way.
I'm glad I have all my photos on memory cards and Kodak paper.
"Lay down your weapon's." "Come, let us help you, we will feed you and care for you." "Now, bend over." Have you heard this one before?
Guess you can't trust some of your "investments" in the hands of others. :flame:
Blame our own site for having to use photo bucket. :Twocents: :brickwall:
Quote from: ACUDANUT on July 01, 2017, 11:34:40 AM
Blame our own site for having to use photo bucket. :Twocents: :brickwall:
What the hell are you talking about? This site allows attachments. :slap: For example, have you ever clicked on a thread where Tan Top has posted a bunch of Ebay photos? Troy has graciously allowed attachments here, and speaking for myself, the only reason I don't attach all my photos to this site is because I would rather pay for any photo bandwidth usage myself, by using a host site. Chances are, many others feel the same & that's why they went with PB in the first place.
If they had known that PB was going to pull such a dick move such as this, chances are they would have gone to a different host site.
I use Flickr for now...
Quote from: Charger_Fan on July 01, 2017, 12:02:15 PM
Quote from: ACUDANUT on July 01, 2017, 11:34:40 AM
Blame our own site for having to use photo bucket. :Twocents: :brickwall:
What the hell are you talking about? This site allows attachments. :slap: For example, have you ever clicked on a thread where Tan Top has posted a bunch of Ebay photos? Troy has graciously allowed attachments here, and speaking for myself, the only reason I don't attach all my photos to this site is because I would rather pay for any photo bandwidth usage myself, by using a host site. Chances are, many others feel the same & that's why they went with PB in the first place.
If they had known that PB was going to pull such a dick move such as this, chances are they would have gone to a different host site.
yes and i realize picture size is expensive but this site is archaic and backwards in the un-user friendly way to post pictures , most other sites are easy and you dont have to rename and resize every freaking time you try to post a picture . Im probable the worst offender with over 26,000 posts of real pictures right on the site , but they are all my photos and all still here .
If you guys pay me $399 per year (each) I will let you post as many pictures in any size that you want! I'll even make it stupidly simple. These days the problem is not bandwidth - it's storage space and limitations of our software. I can upgrade both. An extra $50k per year or so would easily solve that problem. I'll take money in whatever format you want to send it in. Photobucket got $20 million in cash and they're doing this so be generous.
This isn't the first annoying change at Photobucket so it shouldn't really be a surprise. A while back they deleted all accounts with 6 months of "inactivity" (meaning the user hadn't logged in even if their files were being viewed). The last year their site has been painful and almost unusable due to the ads and other nonsense running while trying to browse/upload files. I literally can't search for old pictures without my browser hanging. Apparently it's the default storage for Twitter accounts too so if you use that app you may want to check. The Wikipedia page mentions that anywhere from 200 million to a billion picture links are now broken on forums and Twitter.
Troy
Quote from: Troy on July 01, 2017, 01:31:17 PM
The last year their site has been painful and almost unusable due to the ads and other nonsense running while trying to browse/upload files. I literally can't search for old pictures without my browser hanging.
Yes, it's been extremely aggravating to use for a while now. This $399 shakedown is the last bit of motivation I needed to delete my account.
Quote from: Troy on July 01, 2017, 01:31:17 PM
If you guys pay me $399 per year (each) I will let you post as many pictures in any size that you want! I'll even make it stupidly simple. These days the problem is not bandwidth - it's storage space and limitations of our software. I can upgrade both. An extra $50k per year or so would easily solve that problem. I'll take money in whatever format you want to send it in. Photobucket got $20 million in cash and they're doing this so be generous.
This isn't the first annoying change at Photobucket so it shouldn't really be a surprise. A while back they deleted all accounts with 6 months of "inactivity" (meaning the user hadn't logged in even if their files were being viewed). The last year their site has been painful and almost unusable due to the ads and other nonsense running while trying to browse/upload files. I literally can't search for old pictures without my browser hanging. Apparently it's the default storage for Twitter accounts too so if you use that app you may want to check. The Wikipedia page mentions that anywhere from 200 million to a billion picture links are now broken on forums and Twitter.
Troy
I appreciate all you do and know you hate the thought of taking money , I also love the no pop ups and no ads and that your are beholding to any advertisers , But i know i speak for many we would love to pay 20 or 50 bucks a year to be a member of the Dc.com club and help you :Twocents: I know thats not all the answers but it will help and any upgrades would be a plus
Dropbox... Google... many places to use for free that I control the pics instead of asshats like photobucket.
I don't get it. DC.com allows you to post up to 4 pics per post. So what's the problem??? If you need to post more then 4 pics, just follow up on another reply and viola you got 4 more pics to post. Lather rinse repeat. So what if you got to do some resizing and renaming it's NOT that FN hard. :brickwall: :brickwall: Use your default program called PAINT.
:cheers:
I had not been on pb for a while. The site was super slow in loading, ads popping up like no tomorrow. Deleted all my pics and closed the account. Thanks for the heads up guys. :Twocents:
Quote from: VegasCharger on July 01, 2017, 11:47:19 PM
I don't get it. DC.com allows you to post up to 4 pics per post. So what's the problem??? If you need to post more then 4 pics, just follow up on another reply and viola you got 4 more pics to post. Lather rinse repeat. So what if you got to do some resizing and renaming it's NOT that FN hard. :brickwall: :brickwall: Use your default program called PAINT.
:cheers:
All of which takes ten times longer than pasting a link from Photobucket with a single click.....and even then half the time it doesn't load for some spurious reason...pic to big...name already used...etc etc.
Quote from: alfaitalia on July 02, 2017, 04:30:44 AM
Quote from: VegasCharger on July 01, 2017, 11:47:19 PM
I don't get it. DC.com allows you to post up to 4 pics per post. So what's the problem??? If you need to post more then 4 pics, just follow up on another reply and viola you got 4 more pics to post. Lather rinse repeat. So what if you got to do some resizing and renaming it's NOT that FN hard. :brickwall: :brickwall: Use your default program called PAINT.
:cheers:
All of which takes ten times longer than pasting a link from Photobucket with a single click.....and even then half the time it doesn't load for some spurious reason...pic to big...name already used...etc etc.
also, tan_top has taken all the unique cool photo names like:
chargerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.jpg
asdffasdfadfasfsafaf.jpg
qwertyuuuuuuuu23940.jpg
It takes me about 2 minutes to use paint to resize pix, plus if you use todays' date as a file name, you won't have to worry about renaming photos.
Seen that coming over 10+ years ago, surprised it took them this long to do it. LEON.
yeah not supprised , get every one hooked or using or doing something for free , while getting things set up & the population use to using it , then start charging ..... I can see once the whole world is relying on the internet , all books / directories / printed matter gone etc , then google / yahoo etc start charging a nominal amount to use their search engine , every one having an on line account & charged per search or yearly subscription :brickwall:
Quote from: VegasCharger on July 01, 2017, 11:47:19 PM
I don't get it. DC.com allows you to post up to 4 pics per post. So what's the problem??? If you need to post more then 4 pics, just follow up on another reply and viola you got 4 more pics to post. Lather rinse repeat. So what if you got to do some resizing and renaming it's NOT that FN hard. :brickwall: :brickwall: Use your default program called PAINT.
:cheers:
Troy can probably speak to this but most of the other forums I use upload any size pic and automatically name/resize that to the forums limits. Troy has his reasons for not upgrading and I don't know if the never versions of SMF have this plugin but it would eliminate all this BS. Though it would probably up Troy's storage requirements.
the only headache I find positing pics on here is the name. Its a lottery LOL, easy to solve thought. Otherwise I'm happy with what we got.
You can predict the size attachment will fit or not clicking on properties of the attachment and editing if required before try to upload, but not the name LOL.
I never have being a guy who use image hosting websites, but latelly found this what I think is pretty much nice
https://postimage.io
Ad free ( by now ) and easy to use.
Never liked photobucket. No matter if you copied the direct image link, allway took to the photobucket website frame instead just load the image on the browser when clicking the link
Quote from: bakerhillpins on July 03, 2017, 07:51:17 AM
Quote from: VegasCharger on July 01, 2017, 11:47:19 PM
I don't get it. DC.com allows you to post up to 4 pics per post. So what's the problem??? If you need to post more then 4 pics, just follow up on another reply and viola you got 4 more pics to post. Lather rinse repeat. So what if you got to do some resizing and renaming it's NOT that FN hard. :brickwall: :brickwall: Use your default program called PAINT.
:cheers:
Troy can probably speak to this but most of the other forums I use upload any size pic and automatically name/resize that to the forums limits. Troy has his reasons for not upgrading and I don't know if the never versions of SMF have this plugin but it would eliminate all this BS. Though it would probably up Troy's storage requirements.
exactly what i was saying , dont know a solution but its a pain and sometimes i just give up and dont post . So if i do that im sure a ton of others do too
Quote from: moparstuart on July 03, 2017, 10:03:28 AM
Quote from: bakerhillpins on July 03, 2017, 07:51:17 AM
Quote from: VegasCharger on July 01, 2017, 11:47:19 PM
I don't get it. DC.com allows you to post up to 4 pics per post. So what's the problem??? If you need to post more then 4 pics, just follow up on another reply and viola you got 4 more pics to post. Lather rinse repeat. So what if you got to do some resizing and renaming it's NOT that FN hard. :brickwall: :brickwall: Use your default program called PAINT.
:cheers:
Troy can probably speak to this but most of the other forums I use upload any size pic and automatically name/resize that to the forums limits. Troy has his reasons for not upgrading and I don't know if the never versions of SMF have this plugin but it would eliminate all this BS. Though it would probably up Troy's storage requirements.
exactly what i was saying , dont know a solution but its a pain and sometimes i just give up and dont post . So if i do that im sure a ton of others do too
You want to know why the automatic file renaming was disabled? Because certain people (<cough>Stuart</cough>) would upload the same file 60 times (I was assuming as a "signature" but without making it a signature in the profile). This takes 60 times more storage space and 60 times more bandwidth (actually more since browsers have no idea it's the same file and can't cache it). In one month our bandwidth went up almost 20%. So I shut it off. Now everyone else gets duplicate file name errors even though it's not actually the same file. :( Would this be a problem today? I don't know - but it was certainly a problem then!
There is a "mod" for our forum software that will do resizing on upload. I'd love to install it. However, I want to upgrade the forum first as that process usually breaks most of the mods so I'd have to install it twice. Second, with the size of pictures people are taking today (my digital camera is 17 megapixel and many phones are above 10), is anywhere from 10-30 times larger than the allowable size. The bandwidth and time it takes to upload would be equally as large. When you use Facebook (for example) the app on the phone squishes the picture before pushing it across the internet. Web sites will require the full sized file. I'm positive that the site will be blamed for being slow when someone tries to upload a bunch of 10 MB files to a thread. While the server sits on a gigantic "pipe", individuals are limited by the service in their area and their data plan. Once the file gets stored on the server, resources are required to shrink it - although the new server can handle this since it's typically only running at 1.5-3% cpu. I need to see if apps like Tapatalk will do that as well or if it just uploads the unmodified file (they didn't before). So basically we're back to having people resize their own pictures - which requires a new name so the original doesn't get overwritten. Vicious circle...
The most limiting factor with the server today is storage space. The pictures that have been uploaded so far take up 99% of the space required for the site (meaning the database of all the posts and PMs is tiny by comparison). While this is barely 1/3rd of the available disc space on the new server, even a small increase in allowable size equates to an exponential increase in the amount of space being eaten up going forward. It's the primary reason we're still on a hardware server and not "in the cloud". Everyone I know says "disc space is cheap" - but I guess they aren't paying out of their pocket for it. Maybe it's cheap to buy but certainly not to lease. Related but a different problem - the forum stores all uploads in a single directory. The sheer number of files makes backing that up (rsync can't handle it) or even browsing it nearly impossible. I am trying to work on a solution that can split it by date or something - or maybe someone has finally created a mod or the forum itself allows multiple directory paths.
With this whole Photobucket debacle I'll have to make some kind of change. I really don't want to spend a holiday weekend doing it since I rarely get days off.
Troy
Quote from: Troy on July 03, 2017, 12:16:09 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on July 03, 2017, 10:03:28 AM
Quote from: bakerhillpins on July 03, 2017, 07:51:17 AM
Quote from: VegasCharger on July 01, 2017, 11:47:19 PM
I don't get it. DC.com allows you to post up to 4 pics per post. So what's the problem??? If you need to post more then 4 pics, just follow up on another reply and viola you got 4 more pics to post. Lather rinse repeat. So what if you got to do some resizing and renaming it's NOT that FN hard. :brickwall: :brickwall: Use your default program called PAINT.
:cheers:
Troy can probably speak to this but most of the other forums I use upload any size pic and automatically name/resize that to the forums limits. Troy has his reasons for not upgrading and I don't know if the never versions of SMF have this plugin but it would eliminate all this BS. Though it would probably up Troy's storage requirements.
exactly what i was saying , dont know a solution but its a pain and sometimes i just give up and dont post . So if i do that im sure a ton of others do too
You want to know why the automatic file renaming was disabled? Because certain people (<cough>Stuart</cough>) would upload the same file 60 times (I was assuming as a "signature" but without making it a signature in the profile). This takes 60 times more storage space and 60 times more bandwidth (actually more since browsers have no idea it's the same file and can't cache it). In one month our bandwidth went up almost 20%. So I shut it off. Now everyone else gets duplicate file name errors even though it's not actually the same file. :( Would this be a problem today? I don't know - but it was certainly a problem then!
There is a "mod" for our forum software that will do resizing on upload. I'd love to install it. However, I want to upgrade the forum first as that process usually breaks most of the mods so I'd have to install it twice. Second, with the size of pictures people are taking today (my digital camera is 17 megapixel and many phones are above 10), is anywhere from 10-30 times larger than the allowable size. The bandwidth and time it takes to upload would be equally as large. When you use Facebook (for example) the app on the phone squishes the picture before pushing it across the internet. Web sites will require the full sized file. I'm positive that the site will be blamed for being slow when someone tries to upload a bunch of 10 MB files to a thread. While the server sits on a gigantic "pipe", individuals are limited by the service in their area and their data plan. Once the file gets stored on the server, resources are required to shrink it - although the new server can handle this since it's typically only running at 1.5-3% cpu. I need to see if apps like Tapatalk will do that as well or if it just uploads the unmodified file (they didn't before). So basically we're back to having people resize their own pictures - which requires a new name so the original doesn't get overwritten. Vicious circle...
The most limiting factor with the server today is storage space. The pictures that have been uploaded so far take up 99% of the space required for the site (meaning the database of all the posts and PMs is tiny by comparison). While this is barely 1/3rd of the available disc space on the new server, even a small increase in allowable size equates to an exponential increase in the amount of space being eaten up going forward. It's the primary reason we're still on a hardware server and not "in the cloud". Everyone I know says "disc space is cheap" - but I guess they aren't paying out of their pocket for it. Maybe it's cheap to buy but certainly not to lease. Related but a different problem - the forum stores all uploads in a single directory. The sheer number of files makes backing that up (rsync can't handle it) or even browsing it nearly impossible. I am trying to work on a solution that can split it by date or something - or maybe someone has finally created a mod or the forum itself allows multiple directory paths.
With this whole Photobucket debacle I'll have to make some kind of change. I really don't want to spend a holiday weekend doing it since I rarely get days off.
Troy
thank you for all you do :yesnod:
Thank you Troy !!!!!! :2thumbs:
Yes, thank you for this site! I don't intend to post a zillion pictures as I impose on others to do that for me (much appreciation to VegasCharger & johnnycharger) but I would be more than happy to chip in some $$$ for my use of the site. After all, nothing is free, right? I've gleaned MUCH useful information here.
Thanks again for keeping it up and running :cheers:
Quote from: BDF on July 03, 2017, 05:13:23 PM
Yes, thank you for this site! I don't intend to post a zillion pictures as I impose on others to do that for me (much appreciation to VegasCharger & johnnycharger) but I would be more than happy to chip in some $$$ for my use of the site. After all, nothing is free, right? I've gleaned MUCH useful information here.
Thanks again for keeping it up and running :cheers:
I 2ed that thought. :cheers:.
Bastards! :icon_smile_angry:
What a debacle! So they changed their policy June 28th with no warning whatsoever. Today, July 7th I get an email saying I need to upgrade or my images won't be available. As other people have pointed out, even if you go to the Photobucket web site you still can't see the original picture that was linked on a forum. At that point it's no longer "3rd Party Hosting"!!!
All you guys that put your entire lives in "the cloud" should take note. Luckily, I only had Photobucket to share pictures and all the originals are on my home computers and backups. Makes it easy to just delete my account! Fixing several hundred forum posts around the web will be a lot harder.
Troy
Good info Troy. :2thumbs:
Like you, I have saved files of all pics I put on PB. Basically I used PhotoBucket to be able to post pics when image hosting was required. So I just launch the certain pic from my files onto PB and always keeping my original pic on my p/c. And now more importantly onto an external 1 TB hard drive.
So no fret to me on PhotoBucket's dangling carrot. I'm not paying them a dime. They can close my account, don't care. I also don't care to back trace all of my on-line post from various forums that may have PB pic hosting to switch them out. What's gone is gone I cannot control it or wish to waste my time recovering them or stressing out about it. Even if PB doesn't close my account, I'm not using it anymore unless they revert back to the way it was. I will use different pic hosting sites from this point moving forward.
R.I.P. my PhotoBucket account. :flush:
Quote from: Troy on July 07, 2017, 06:01:09 PM
Fixing several hundred forum posts around the web will be a lot harder.
Troy
This is the biggest problem for me. They've broken billions of photos across the web on forums.
Sounds like Ransom to me. should be illegal. LEON.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ransom
Quote from: hemi-hampton on July 07, 2017, 09:18:02 PM
Sounds like Ransom to me. should be illegal. LEON.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ransom
Nope, it's all perfectly legit. Just dumb. They are a photo storage site. Somewhere in the Terms and Conditions I'm sure it says they have the right to limit their services at any time for any reason. If they didn't want people to link the pictures they shouldn't have given them the codes to do it.
I opened my account in 2004 and paid for additional storage for several years. At the most I think it was $50 per year and I was OK paying $4 and change per month. Then they made the free account have more space than the account I was paying for so I went back to the free one. Duh! Over time they have tried several different schemes for getting people to pay. I think they had an idea and just never figured out how to monetize it. I say, if YouTube can figure out how to embed ads in videos then surely Photobucket could watermark every image that gets linked. It's not that hard! I guarantee that YouTube is on a much larger scale when it comes to storage and bandwidth (of course, now they have the Google juggernaut behind them).
Quote from: VegasCharger on July 07, 2017, 07:40:57 PM
Good info Troy. :2thumbs:
Like you, I have saved files of all pics I put on PB. Basically I used PhotoBucket to be able to post pics when image hosting was required. So I just launch the certain pic from my files onto PB and always keeping my original pic on my p/c. And now more importantly onto an external 1 TB hard drive.
So no fret to me on PhotoBucket's dangling carrot. I'm not paying them a dime. They can close my account, don't care. I also don't care to back trace all of my on-line post from various forums that may have PB pic hosting to switch them out. What's gone is gone I cannot control it or wish to waste my time recovering them or stressing out about it. Even if PB doesn't close my account, I'm not using it anymore unless they revert back to the way it was. I will use different pic hosting sites from this point moving forward.
R.I.P. my PhotoBucket account. :flush:
No, delete it yourself. Leaving it there allows them to serve up that stupid warning every time anyone sees a thread of yours anywhere on the internet. Plus they ask you why you're closing the account before they'll delete it. If you leave it alone they can include your account when they brag about the number of images they're storing and serving up. I just dropped that total by 7,684 images and 1GB of storage.
Troy
Using www.postimage.io if somebody is interested.
Free accoung ( by now ) and ads free.
Quote from: hemi-hampton on July 07, 2017, 09:18:02 PM
Sounds like Ransom to me. should be illegal. LEON.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ransom
So thats how it calls in english what we live daily down here!
Quote from: Troy on July 07, 2017, 11:52:11 PM
No, delete it yourself. Leaving it there allows them to serve up that stupid warning every time anyone sees a thread of yours anywhere on the internet. Plus they ask you why you're closing the account before they'll delete it. If you leave it alone they can include your account when they brag about the number of images they're storing and serving up. I just dropped that total by 7,684 images and 1GB of storage.
Troy
Thanks for the tip Troy. :2thumbs:
So did you just delete your account? Removed the pics first and then delete account? If so did you remove the pics one at a time, one folder at a time?
The only reason I thought to keep my PB account active is if they decided that they made a mistake and reverted back to 3rd party imaging for free. That way my pics would still be intact. But now that I think about it, why would I trust them in the future? They could just pull the same BS again. Thankfully all of my PhotoBucket pics are on an external hard drive.
:cheers:
Quote from: VegasCharger on July 10, 2017, 09:27:52 AM
So did you just delete your account? Removed the pics first and then delete account? If so did you remove the pics one at a time, one folder at a time?
If there are pics you want to save from PB to your computer, I believe you will have to do them one at a time. I did not see a bulk download or anything like that.
If your pics are on your hard drive already , you have no worries.
I had all my pictures saved locally so I just deleted the account. I only put the small/resized version up there and kept the hi-res originals on my PC. It will purge all your pictures when it closes (although they say this could take 2 days).
If you need to download them I thought I saw a way to save entire folders. Used to they had a "utility" that would allow you to drag and drop from your hard drive and it worked both ways. They may have changed this when they went to the more dynamic format. I haven't had much luck making their site work in over a year.
Once again, today I was looking at an ad someone posted. They linked to their Photobucket account (the whole account - not a picture). While browsing through their folders I got that 3rd party warning several times. You cannot see the actual picture even when browsing the Photobucket site!!! This is in direct conflict with what they are saying.
Troy
Just deleted my account. One thing I did do though was as Troy mentioned, you might still be able to see all your pictures in a build thread because your browser has them cached. So for my thread, I went to each page, I only have like 5 so it didn't take long, click print and do it to a PDF and saved it to my desk top. I think you could then create an attachment of a PDF so that others could view your thread in PDF form with pictures up until the Photobucket snafu.
Fire Photobucket and go to Imgur. None of those blasted commercials and it is very compatible with Droid-based cellphones. A little reading and practice and you're off and running. Much quicker to use and zero brain-damage. I'm not closing or deleting anything, just moving on. I really don't care what Photobucket does, hopefully they'll go under.
Since many of the new "project" Charger pictures posted here now are stripped rotted out wrecks that really are just fugitives from the crusher, I can honestly say that I'm glad to see those pictures vanish.
But this does lead to another point; if this is the trend that this site is going towards, it may be worth consideration of a separate category for those who cherish roached out junk. Either that or just rename this forum to rustyjunkdc.com.
Sounds like a worthwhile plan to me. :2thumbs:
Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on July 21, 2017, 06:53:51 AM
Since many of the new "project" Charger pictures posted here now are stripped rotted out wrecks that really are just fugitives from the crusher, I can honestly say that I'm glad to see those pictures vanish.
But this does lead to another point; if this is the trend that this site is going towards, it may be worth consideration of a separate category for those who cherish roached out junk. Either that or just rename this forum to rustyjunkdc.com.
Sounds like a worthwhile plan to me. :2thumbs:
:2thumbs:
Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on July 21, 2017, 06:53:51 AM
Since many of the new "project" Charger pictures posted here now are stripped rotted out wrecks that really are just fugitives from the crusher, I can honestly say that I'm glad to see those pictures vanish.
But this does lead to another point; if this is the trend that this site is going towards, it may be worth consideration of a separate category for those who cherish roached out junk. Either that or just rename this forum to rustyjunkdc.com.
Sounds like a worthwhile plan to me. :2thumbs:
Or lets go a step further and get a dedicated forum for those who feel they are better than everyone else and if a car is not an original hemi or high dollar, its crap..! yea sounds great, we can call it
mycarisbetterthanyours.com
Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on July 21, 2017, 06:53:51 AM
Since many of the new "project" Charger pictures posted here now are stripped rotted out wrecks that really are just fugitives from the crusher, I can honestly say that I'm glad to see those pictures vanish.
But this does lead to another point; if this is the trend that this site is going towards, it may be worth consideration of a separate category for those who cherish roached out junk. Either that or just rename this forum to rustyjunkdc.com.
Sounds like a worthwhile plan to me. :2thumbs:
Don't missundertand me, please, but... have you lot of friends around? Is not that you could be wrong or right, but the way you say it!
Is offensive!
Lot of ppl deserves a bit more respect!
( I support what Timmy posted )
Once again, don't missundertand me, I use to be a friendly guy ( I think, so far so good just one declaired enemy around LOL ) and I am being now, but is not the first time a got a crash reading your posts, some of them on my own threads when I request some help/support
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Being on topic...
This PB deal is a HUGE crash. Try to make ANY image search in google, not just cars of course! Maybe 20% image data is now missed from any search. Lot of FORMAL websites used it!, not just personal accounts!
Quote from: moparnation74 on July 21, 2017, 07:24:34 AM
Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on July 21, 2017, 06:53:51 AM
Since many of the new "project" Charger pictures posted here now are stripped rotted out wrecks that really are just fugitives from the crusher, I can honestly say that I'm glad to see those pictures vanish.
But this does lead to another point; if this is the trend that this site is going towards, it may be worth consideration of a separate category for those who cherish roached out junk. Either that or just rename this forum to rustyjunkdc.com.
Sounds like a worthwhile plan to me. :2thumbs:
:2thumbs:
Looks like you guys need to dissappear to fbbo.com forever. Wouldn't be a loss. You guys have the rich people syndrome.
Quote from: timmycharger on July 21, 2017, 07:26:36 AM
Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on July 21, 2017, 06:53:51 AM
Since many of the new "project" Charger pictures posted here now are stripped rotted out wrecks that really are just fugitives from the crusher, I can honestly say that I'm glad to see those pictures vanish.
But this does lead to another point; if this is the trend that this site is going towards, it may be worth consideration of a separate category for those who cherish roached out junk. Either that or just rename this forum to rustyjunkdc.com.
Sounds like a worthwhile plan to me. :2thumbs:
Or lets go a step further and get a dedicated forum for those who feel they are better than everyone else and if a car is not an original Hemi or high dollar, its crap..! yea sounds great, we can call it mycarisbetterthanyours.com
Now that's just being silly. But please tell me, at what point of ruin and decay does a Dodge Charger be considered as junk? Surely you must realize that it will cost the same amount of money to restore the body of a 318 Charger and it does a 383, 440 or Hemi powered Charger given that they are in equal conditions. It's common knowledge that a 383 Charger is worth more than a 318 powered Charger while a 440 R/T is worth more than a 383 powered Charger, and a Hemi powered car is worth more than the 440 Charger. It just doesn't make economic sense to put 40+ grand into a 318 Charger while it is worthwhile to put that kind of dough into a 440 or Hemi powered R/T. There are many factors that determine the value of a vehicle and a "restored" rusted wreck is not going to be worth as much as another car with original sheet metal.
It's a fact that most of our cars are money pits and it's also a fact that most of us are not going to keep their Chargers forever. As such, it makes sense to invest (if you want to call it that) your money into a car that will give you the better return and a rusted & dented shell of a car isn't it.
Here's what's left of what once was a V-code Superbird. Someone thought enough of it to drag it to Carlisle last week and display it, but to me, anyone who would think that this twisted pile of rotted sheet metal to be a worthy of a restoration is out of their mind.
(http://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparforum/attachments/img_20170714_133235358-jpg.447428/)
That's the owner problem, not the board members problem.
Every member post their project, worthly or not, hughe or not. For lot of ppl can be a stupidity, for some other not, sure not for the owner. Opinions are welcomed, but respectfull for every member even more.
Is not the opinion, but the respect shown on the opinion!
I wont argue your points below about the costs of the restorations, they are valid. My point is that you come across as an ass in your posts calling cars junk, etc.
For some folks to get their foot in the door of this hobby, you have to start with something that may be in rough shape or a "roach" as you call them.
There is also the joy of bringing back a rusted hulk into something nice, doing it themselves and not just dropping it off at a shop and writing a check. There are guys on here that do amazing work bringing these cars back for the future enthusiasts to enjoy, what is wrong with that? it is their money.
My car is a 318 triple green car from the factory and would have been considered a parts car in your eyes, but in 1997 when I had only 4k to spend on my dream car, it was perfect for me. I probably dropped over 30K on this car over the last 20 years but It was not all at once, I could not afford it with 3 kids and a mortgage. This car never was or will be an investment for me, I will continue to throw money at a less than desirable 318 car, I will enjoy it just as much as if it was a matching numbers R/T.
Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on July 21, 2017, 08:54:24 AM
That's the owner problem, not the board members problem.
Every member post their project, worthly or not, hughe or not. For lot of ppl can be a stupidity, for some other not, sure not for the owner. Opinions are welcomed, but respectfull for every member even more.
Is not the opinion, but the respect shown on the opinion!
:cheers:
Quote from: Lennard on July 21, 2017, 08:45:06 AM
Quote from: moparnation74 on July 21, 2017, 07:24:34 AM
Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on July 21, 2017, 06:53:51 AM
Since many of the new "project" Charger pictures posted here now are stripped rotted out wrecks that really are just fugitives from the crusher, I can honestly say that I'm glad to see those pictures vanish.
But this does lead to another point; if this is the trend that this site is going towards, it may be worth consideration of a separate category for those who cherish roached out junk. Either that or just rename this forum to rustyjunkdc.com.
Sounds like a worthwhile plan to me. :2thumbs:
:2thumbs:
Looks like you guys need to dissappear to fbbo.com forever. Wouldn't be a loss. You guys have the rich people syndrome.
That is right it is "Forever" and will be around forever unlike other sites...
Honestly, Leonard do you really think I can take words from a thief to have any meaning? :popcrn:
Quote from: moparnation74 on July 21, 2017, 09:18:53 AM
Quote from: Lennard on July 21, 2017, 08:45:06 AM
Quote from: moparnation74 on July 21, 2017, 07:24:34 AM
Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on July 21, 2017, 06:53:51 AM
Since many of the new "project" Charger pictures posted here now are stripped rotted out wrecks that really are just fugitives from the crusher, I can honestly say that I'm glad to see those pictures vanish.
But this does lead to another point; if this is the trend that this site is going towards, it may be worth consideration of a separate category for those who cherish roached out junk. Either that or just rename this forum to rustyjunkdc.com.
Sounds like a worthwhile plan to me. :2thumbs:
:2thumbs:
Looks like you guys need to dissappear to fbbo.com forever. Wouldn't be a loss. You guys have the rich people syndrome.
That is right it is "Forever" and will be around forever unlike other sites...
Honestly, Leonard do you really think I can take words from a thief to have any meaning? :popcrn:
I've learned early in life to never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. Now go play with your online friends on fbbo.
Quote from: Lennard on July 21, 2017, 09:25:16 AM
Quote from: moparnation74 on July 21, 2017, 09:18:53 AM
Quote from: Lennard on July 21, 2017, 08:45:06 AM
Quote from: moparnation74 on July 21, 2017, 07:24:34 AM
Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on July 21, 2017, 06:53:51 AM
Since many of the new "project" Charger pictures posted here now are stripped rotted out wrecks that really are just fugitives from the crusher, I can honestly say that I'm glad to see those pictures vanish.
But this does lead to another point; if this is the trend that this site is going towards, it may be worth consideration of a separate category for those who cherish roached out junk. Either that or just rename this forum to rustyjunkdc.com.
Sounds like a worthwhile plan to me. :2thumbs:
:2thumbs:
Looks like you guys need to dissappear to fbbo.com forever. Wouldn't be a loss. You guys have the rich people syndrome.
That is right it is "Forever" and will be around forever unlike other sites...
Honestly, Leonard do you really think I can take words from a thief to have any meaning? :popcrn:
I've learned early in life to never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.
A thief is the worst thing in society a true bottom feeder and a complete liar...That is Leonard folks...
This has gone way off topic and this anger shout be aimed at the greedy inconsiderate bastards at Photo bucket rather than each other..imo of course. However I will play along.....just for one post! Mytur....have you had a bad day...not getting any? You are usually the one I look to for a laugh and light hearted look at stuff. However that was a bit harsh on the less well funded members...that includes me btw! Old cars (ones that look past saving in many cases) are many people's way into the game. Often this leads to a very long resto....not though lack of determination but lack of funds. Took me nearly three months to get the cash together to import my 8-71...because of A, they are triple the price they are their after import and shipping and tax and B, I'm a middle income guy with a nice house on the beach and a wife and son to support. I run a 151,000 mile 14 year old Mercedes CLK 200 Kompressor as my DD..just to keep my other motoring costs down. Pushing myself financially to get the house I wanted was more important than getting my dream car built. Now on the other side a lot of these rusty cars might never get built......more ambition than skill/cash or they just did not realise the size of the project. I will say that buying one that's basically sound will work out lots cheaper in the long run and be more original....so yes you have a point about some of them... But one of my favourite threads on here is Rust Belt Restoration...which proves it can be done. Imo that car is a Charger copy as so little in original but that's a different topic. So go easy on us less minted folks...I will get there. I have a nearly complete body and a freshly tested block in just over a year so I'm happy with that.
I can't believe that I have to go back to drawing car pictures with crayons & taping them to the monitor. ::)
Quote from: Old Moparz on July 21, 2017, 01:40:36 PM
I can't believe that I have to go back to drawing car pictures with crayons & taping them to the monitor. ::)
dont lick the glass
Quote from: moparstuart on July 21, 2017, 02:23:07 PM
Quote from: Old Moparz on July 21, 2017, 01:40:36 PM
I can't believe that I have to go back to drawing car pictures with crayons & taping them to the monitor. ::)
dont lick the glass
Why? :shruggy:
Quote from: Old Moparz on July 21, 2017, 04:49:26 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on July 21, 2017, 02:23:07 PM
Quote from: Old Moparz on July 21, 2017, 01:40:36 PM
I can't believe that I have to go back to drawing car pictures with crayons & taping them to the monitor. ::)
dont lick the glass
Why? :shruggy:
Well because if you have a teenage son and he wanted a left handed mouse for his birthday it won't be just dust on the screen!
:idiot: :idiot: :idiot:
Quote from: alfaitalia on July 21, 2017, 05:02:12 PM
Quote from: Old Moparz on July 21, 2017, 04:49:26 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on July 21, 2017, 02:23:07 PM
Quote from: Old Moparz on July 21, 2017, 01:40:36 PM
I can't believe that I have to go back to drawing car pictures with crayons & taping them to the monitor. ::)
dont lick the glass
Why? :shruggy:
Well because if you have a teenage son and he wanted a left handed mouse for his birthday it won't be just dust on the screen!
:rofl: :idiot: :idiot:
Quote from: Lennard on July 21, 2017, 08:45:06 AM
Looks like you guys need to dissappear to fbbo.com forever. Wouldn't be a loss. You guys have the rich people syndrome.
In other words, class envy is what it boils down to with you? Let's see what a big man you are and go over to the wing car section and start throwing "rich people syndrome" around with those owners. ::)
Quote from: timmycharger on July 21, 2017, 08:58:09 AM
I wont argue your points below about the costs of the restorations, they are valid. My point is that you come across as an ass in your posts calling cars junk, etc.
The funny thing is that in the "delusional sellers" thread, many cars for sale of varying states are picked apart by members here and about 99.9% of the points are valid. Look through that thread and you'll see many roaches that wouldn't even make a good parts car. However, when someone with visions of grandeur throws up a post of a hulk that they just bought, the person gets praised for "saving another". Along comes little old me who calls a "fugitive from the crusher" what it really is and I'm a bad guy. :shruggy:
So which is it?
Quote from: timmycharger on July 21, 2017, 08:58:09 AM
For some folks to get their foot in the door of this hobby, you have to start with something that may be in rough shape or a "roach" as you call them.
There is also the joy of bringing back a rusted hulk into something nice, doing it themselves and not just dropping it off at a shop and writing a check.
Some people are blessed with the talent of being able to do bodywork, and I agree, there are some VERY talented people here, but for every talented person, there are 10 more who don't know what they have gotten themselves into and are just way over their head. Then there are those who have poorly slapped together cars and Ebay ads are full of cars like that.
There is nothing wrong with those who can afford to drop it off and write a check. Personally, I know my limitations, and bodywork aint it, nor do I have the desire to do bodywork. However, everything else I can pretty much do.
Quote from: timmycharger on July 21, 2017, 08:58:09 AM
My car is a 318 triple green car from the factory and would have been considered a parts car in your eyes, but in 1997 when I had only 4k to spend on my dream car, it was perfect for me. I probably dropped over 30K on this car over the last 20 years but It was not all at once, I could not afford it with 3 kids and a mortgage. This car never was or will be an investment for me, I will continue to throw money at a less than desirable 318 car, I will enjoy it just as much as if it was a matching numbers R/T.
Anyone who reads my posts know how I feel about triple green cars. :lol: But I would be willing to bet that your $4,000.00 car was a hell of a lot better starting point than the piles of rust in question today. Case in point....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Dodge-Charger-/232398912614?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908105057%26meid%3D75cef357eeaa4ba384ea7dd39a88b838%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D232398912614&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=hwD8fBkmz7KEEUVQn8575kfW0Kg%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
Can someone please explain to me how on God's green earth that this thing is worth $3,900.00? But apparently, some fool with more money than brains bought it. Call me a jerk for saying that, but it is the truth.
^So anyone who enjoys building (or rescuing) an otherwise left for dead Charger is an idiot?
And people who choose to spend their time (and money) in the hobby differently than you do are wrong?
Boy, I'm glad you cleared that up.
Pack it up guys, Binsdirti said we're wasting our time, so it must be true. We're not worthy of Mopar ownership.
I mean, it's not like it's up to each owner to spend his own time and money on whatever he damn well pleases, right?
Naaah.
Quote from: JR on July 21, 2017, 10:04:05 PM
^So anyone who enjoys building (or rescuing) an otherwise left for dead Charger is an idiot?
In some cases no, but in many cases yes. Take this gem on ebay right now for example....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Dodge-Charger-/311921217937?hash=item489ff41191:g:YJEAAOSw4dxZcimY&vxp=mtr
This car is a complete rust bucket with some of the bad sheetmetal removed and some AMD sheetmetal barely tacked in place to make it look less hideous than is really is. It's obvious that this guy doesn't have the skill (and most likely money) to finish the job and properly do what he did. Obviously, he's already invested quite a bit of money in sheetmetal, a radiator and other stuff, but what he's really got is an overpriced barely polished turd. Of course the seller is delusional with his asking price, but it most likely will get sold at some point, most likely to someone else who doesn't know what they are looking at or what they are in for.
Quote from: JR on July 21, 2017, 10:04:05 PM
And people who choose to spend their time (and money) in the hobby differently than you do are wrong?
Don't be snarky, did I ever say anything remotely like that? Different people have different budgets and skill levels, but most people seem to overestimate the condition of a car and underestimate the amount of time, work and money that needs to go into it. The better car you buy up front, the less work and money will need to be spent in the long run. Cheering people on when they are buying junk does not do them any good, especially when you know nothing about them or their skill levels.
Quote from: JR on July 21, 2017, 10:04:05 PM
Boy, I'm glad you cleared that up.
Pack it up guys, Binsdirti said we're wasting our time, so it must be true. We're not worthy of Mopar ownership.
I mean, it's not like it's up to each owner to spend his own time and money on whatever he damn well pleases, right?
Naaah.
Let's step away from Dodge Chargers for a moment. I'm sure that you realize that other vehicles have followings as well, such as VW Beetles. In your opinion, are these vehicles below candidates for restoration or are they just junk?
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/8t5w6GoYrPc/maxresdefault.jpg)
(http://fourwheelsoffroad.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/DSC_1255.jpg)
And since you are so smart, how about using the same analogy on something different than a car. Let's hear your opinion whether the house below is worth "restoring" or not?
(http://weburbanist.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/william-livingstone-house.jpg)
(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2423259.1446659270!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/gallery_1200/abandoned-homes-u-s.jpg)
Using your own reasoning, anyone who critiques the VW's and the house by honestly telling the truth is just an A-hole. After all, as you stated above, it's up to the owner to spend his own time and money on whatever he damn well pleases, right?
Ok...how the hell is that house still standing?
I tell once again what I have being telling in couple of sentences:
-- it's at owner choose.
-- You can be wrong or right ( owner too ), but RESPECT on the opinion is the deal.
I'm gonna post one Charger example... my car is a 74 and maybe I have spend the same than restoring a 69 on same conditions. Am I stupid making it because the 74 will worth half of the 69 at the end of the job? Or doesn't matter if I like my 74 ? Is what it worths the rule or is what I like ? Or maybe what I have in hands being no 2nd gens available ? What must be the rule on my life ? Everybody's opinion or my own opinion? I can heard opinions and take some, but I rule my life. You are not on everybody shoes to think or decide who is totally wrong or totally right on their own decisions.
Let's get it back on topic!
Its offensive to you those pics with pieces of junk like you said? Well, sorry my friend, all those are accepted by everybody and maybe lot of them ( members/projects ) are here before you become a member of the board. Sorry if bothers you, but its an open board and EVERYBODY deserves respect.
Once again, opinions are welcomed, including your ones, BUT RESPECT is the base of the opinion to keep the nice mood on board. Some of us are here since 2000-2002 when this family began to grow up and the nice mood has being the rule. Don't disturb it please.
I'm telling it gently.
Jokes are welcomed too, but, even those must be respectful
BTW, Beetle parts are cheap enough, easy to come by and replace to get in on those projects and still worth the effort! If the guy is Beetle fan, sure will worthly for him.
Is not just the destination, but the journey!
Even that house! Not for you of course, but MAYBE somebody is dreaming with something like that! The challenge on the journey, the final dream on the destination!
RESPECT ON EVERYBODY'S DREAMS AND OPINIONS. That's all!
You can say is crazyness and maybe it is, but you can't say the guy is an idiot. You don't know what are the feelings on owners or buyers.
Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on July 21, 2017, 06:53:51 AM
Since many of the new "project" Charger pictures posted here now are stripped rotted out wrecks that really are just fugitives from the crusher, I can honestly say that I'm glad to see those pictures vanish.
But this does lead to another point; if this is the trend that this site is going towards, it may be worth consideration of a separate category for those who cherish roached out junk. Either that or just rename this forum to rustyjunkdc.com.
Sounds like a worthwhile plan to me. :2thumbs:
This was really unrespectfull for sure.
Restore those "fugitives" deserves more respect to the owner than just buy a nice unrestored car.
And no, the board won't change to that name. Maybe could change to HELPANDSUPPORTTOEVERYCHARGEROWNERDREAM.COM which has being the mood since ever and where your opinions are still welcomed as far are posted with respect!
Have I told the respect word too much ? LOL
The problem is the FAKE praise delivered. Cars are ripped apart in the Delusional Charger thread but then some of those same people praise a guy for purchasing something even worse....
It's the adage "Say one thing and then do another".....People "Speaking with two tongues"
For example, if I considered purchasing a car for a restoration even with the experience that I have I still ask a my friends in the hobby.....People that put the relationship aside and give me a true honest answer....Not some buttering up person blowing smoke up people Azz.....Trying to be the "good guy" on a forum...Stuff they would say "Heck NO" too.....
This has nothing to do with the car is has all to do with Honesty!
That's another story! If ppl can't stand their opinions with actions is another deal. I'm just talking about respect on the opinion. Even more here where most of us don't know personally.
Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on July 22, 2017, 05:31:54 AM
....................Take this gem on ebay right now for example....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Dodge-Charger-/311921217937?hash=item489ff41191:g:YJEAAOSw4dxZcimY&vxp=mtr
HOLY H3LL!!! $23.5K for that!!! NON R/T (like that matters anyways) WTF. :brickwall:
Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on July 22, 2017, 06:59:43 AM
BTW, Beetle parts are cheap enough, easy to come by and replace to get in on those projects and still worth the effort! If the guy is Beetle fan, sure will worthly for him.
Beetle parts are cheap enough and easy to come by in comparison to Charger parts, but Dodge Charger parts are cheap enough and easy to come by in comparison to AC Cobra parts & AC Cobra parts are cheap and easy to come by in comparison to 1930's Bugatti parts, so that's all a moot point.
Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on July 22, 2017, 06:59:43 AMEven that house! Not for you of course, but MAYBE somebody is dreaming with something like that! The challenge on the journey, the final dream on the destination!
RESPECT ON EVERYBODY'S DREAMS AND OPINIONS. That's all!
You can say is crazyness and maybe it is, but you can't say the guy is an idiot. You don't know what are the feelings on owners or buyers.
If one of your friends who has no experience with home renovations came to you with visions of buying a house like that, are you saying that they should be encouraged? You can't be serious, but if you are, you're really not much of a friend. Personally, I would do whatever I could to prevent my friends from making such an egregious mistake.
Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on July 22, 2017, 08:48:40 AM
Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on July 21, 2017, 06:53:51 AM
Since many of the new "project" Charger pictures posted here now are stripped rotted out wrecks that really are just fugitives from the crusher, I can honestly say that I'm glad to see those pictures vanish.
But this does lead to another point; if this is the trend that this site is going towards, it may be worth consideration of a separate category for those who cherish roached out junk. Either that or just rename this forum to rustyjunkdc.com.
Sounds like a worthwhile plan to me. :2thumbs:
This was really unrespectfull for sure.
Restore those "fugitives" deserves more respect to the owner than just buy a nice unrestored car.
As stated previously, in some cases yes, but in others no. But now you say that people who buy unrestored cars deserve less respect? How about telling MoparStuart that directly on his thread....... http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,128973.0.html
Those Beetles?....probably not....but similar condition ones with small rear windows, split front screens and 6 volt electrics...hell yeah. The rarity value would make it worth while. The same way a numbers hemi 69 would have to be pretty bad to not be worth a go. But its not all about money as nacho implied. My car will never be worth what I'm paying to build it....but I will never sell it so its worth it to me to have that childhood dream car....and it will be more than worth it for me.....but as a financial investment....nahh...complete disaster! Its priceless to my boy and I hope he never has to sell it either!
Quote from: VegasCharger on July 22, 2017, 09:06:03 AM
Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on July 22, 2017, 05:31:54 AM
....................Take this gem on ebay right now for example....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Dodge-Charger-/311921217937?hash=item489ff41191:g:YJEAAOSw4dxZcimY&vxp=mtr
HOLY H3LL!!! $23.5K for that!!! NON R/T (like that matters anyways) WTF. :brickwall:
Watch what you say lest you be branded as a hater. But yes, you are 100% right and I'll say it for you; it's a steaming pile of rhino dung!
i want one of those beetles to make a bug Drop Bed Bug trailer to haul behind my rat rod :icon_smile_big: :icon_smile_big: one mans trash another mans treasure
Must have one hell of a tongue weight with the wheels that far back...lol!
"In some cases no, but in many cases yes. Take this gem on ebay right now for example....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Dodge-Charger-/311921217937?hash=item489ff41191:g:YJEAAOSw4dxZcimY&vxp=mtr
This car is a complete rust bucket with some of the bad sheetmetal removed and some AMD sheetmetal barely tacked in place to make it look less hideous than is really is. It's obvious that this guy doesn't have the skill (and most likely money) to finish the job and properly do what he did. Obviously, he's already invested quite a bit of money in sheetmetal, a radiator and other stuff, but what he's really got is an overpriced barely polished turd. Of course the seller is delusional with his asking price, but it most likely will get sold at some point, most likely to someone else who doesn't know what they are looking at or what they are in for. *
That car appears to have been bought by a dealer, and "polished" up for a quick profit. Yeah, the price is optimistic, and dealers ruin the hobby for everyone, but thats a bold prediction to claim to know the skill level of every single person that buys a project car. Maybe the buyer has experience with body repair, maybe hes clueless. Either way, its his car/time/money, so its none of my business. If it makes him happy to save one, thats great. If he screws it up, so what? You would have sent it to the crusher anyway, and the money he spent on the project benefitted some local small businesses.
So, the buyer gets the experience of building his dream car, a future buyer gets a chance to own his dreamcar that would have otherwise been crushed, and you get a future candidate to pick apart in a future thread for having mismatched air in the tires and improperly dated farts in the seat cushions. Everyone wins!
"Cheering people on when they are buying junk does not do them any good, especially when you know nothing about them or their skill levels".
Thats funny, crapping on every thread because you dont know how to do bodywork and assume no one else can either does the board no good.
In your opinion, are these vehicles below candidates for restoration or are they just junk?
Those particular beetles are post 68 models, so financially speaking, they arent worth restoring. Now, if a builder wanted to restore them for his own enjoyment, or personal reasons, sure, then they are worth it. Who am I to judge? The builder has fun, and more classic cars end up on the road. Its a win-win.
"And since you are so smart, how about using the same analogy on something different than a car. Let's hear your opinion whether the house below is worth "restoring" or not?"
That first house is a movie prop, built purposely to look distressed . :icon_smile_big: Thats from Steven Kings remake of "It" I believe.
Im getting the impression your main interest is money. All your points go back to wasting money, or cars being a money pit, or spending money to restore them. If so, have fun with that. This seems like the wrong hobby if preserving money is your main motivator.
Mytur, you are not getting it... you can say whatever you want, as I told opinions are welcomed but everybody deserves RESPECT through the opinions posted.
Never said who buys a restored or perfect unrestored car deserves less respect ( i.e. the great 68 you got ), but get the courage to restore one rust bucket deserves admiration and no less respect, even more. Hats off to those who try it!
Let's begin to set all we deserve the same respect borderline, which is the base for it! Then those who get the courage, get a plus on that! But never below the borderline!
Quote from: JR on July 22, 2017, 10:39:28 AM
Those particular beetles are post 68 models, so financially speaking, they arent worth restoring. Now, if a builder wanted to restore them for his own enjoyment, or personal reasons, sure, then they are worth it. Who am I to judge? The builder has fun, and more classic cars end up on the road. Its a win-win.
By the front fender shape I'd say the first one seems to be pre 68... sure one of the lates 60s, but still pre 68
Test pic....of one of my other toys!
It only bloody well worked....its a miracle. First time I've got one to work without using an outside host!!
"That first house is a movie prop, built purposely to look distressed . icon_smile_big Thats from Steven Kings remake of "It" I believe"
That House is no Stephen King Movie Prop. It's a real House in the Brush Park Neighborhood of Detroit. I know because I live nearby & drove through that Neighborhood 1,000 times. LEON.
Quote from: hemi-hampton on August 06, 2017, 08:59:20 AM
"That first house is a movie prop, built purposely to look distressed . icon_smile_big Thats from Steven Kings remake of "It" I believe"
That House is no Stephen King Movie Prop. It's a real House in the Brush Park Neighborhood of Detroit. I know because I live nearby & drove through that Neighborhood 1,000 times. LEON.
My fault. I was going from memory and confused it with the movie prop. Here is the "IT" house I thought it was. You got me there. :icon_smile_big:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqbOWf6UEAEGBPI.jpg)
OK I'll self identify as one of the idiots that can't figure out how to use paint pait to resize my photos under 200K. I've tried multiple times and I shrink size...check propertys , darn no still 1.2 meg, shrink again, check propertys...darn still 1meg. Repeat 5x and best I get is a tiny picture at 400K still will not fit
Can someone please walk me though it :-\
Quote from: AKcharger on August 07, 2017, 08:29:04 AM
OK I'll self identify as one of the idiots that can't figure out how to use paint pait to resize my photos under 200K. I've tried multiple times and I shrink size...check propertys , darn no still 1.2 meg, shrink again, check propertys...darn still 1meg. Repeat 5x and best I get is a tiny picture at 400K still will not fit
Can someone please walk me though it :-\
Have you tried looking into this thread. it doesn't use paint though.
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,80380.0.html
Luke
Quote from: AKcharger on August 07, 2017, 08:29:04 AM
OK I'll self identify as one of the idiots that can't figure out how to use paint pait to resize my photos under 200K. I've tried multiple times and I shrink size...check propertys , darn no still 1.2 meg, shrink again, check propertys...darn still 1meg. Repeat 5x and best I get is a tiny picture at 400K still will not fit
Can someone please walk me though it :-\
I use IrfanView: http://www.irfanview.com/main_download_engl.htm
You can set parameters and it will bulk resize/rename entire folders for you. But, they key a lot of time for size is the "quality" setting. I have found that making the image size 1024 (widest dimension) at 80% quality almost always comes in under 200 kb. However, the size limit is now 400 kb so even 100% quality would be ok. I don't know if MS Paint has a quality setting.
For more powerful editng I use Paint.net: http://download.cnet.com/Paint-NET/3000-2192_4-10338146.html
Although I now use ImgBB to host my pics I did find it easy to resize them down below 400k. Just right click on your photo click edit then click resize. My phone camera takes 8meg pics.....so if I choose 25% as the resize parameters then they finish up about 300 to 390 k...perfect. The resize is the easy part...it's the rename, reject, rename again reject and so on that made me go to a host. Four clicks and twenty pics posted in a single post. Just hope ImgBB don't go the way Photobucket did!
Copy guys...that one link should do the trick, thanks guys!
Testing to see if I can post a pic. Here's my new 512 stroker I'm building. Well, having built
Sideways for some reason. 🤷♂️