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Title: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: rickroadrunner on November 06, 2011, 08:57:42 PM
Hi all. I'm currently restoring a 999 Petty Blue Superbird. I recently bought some parts from Dave Patik, who suggested I log on and introduce myself to the site, as I will have a few questions over the restoration period and I don't have any easy access to reference cars as you would imagine!!
The resto will be concourse, and I'm trying to make everything correct. I have simple questions, like re the headlight buckets, these have overspray from the factory, so i was intending on duplicating what the factory did , would this be seen as correct?
Thanks
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: nascarxx29 on November 06, 2011, 09:42:21 PM
Welcome to the board this is a pretty original car
http://www.moparaction.com/Article/JIMS_BIRD/index.html
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: pettybird on November 06, 2011, 11:04:07 PM
Welcome fellow 999 owner!

What's your details and VIN?  168776 here...440 4 bbl, 4 speed, black bench.
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: rickroadrunner on November 07, 2011, 12:35:14 AM
Mine is the 158632 car listed on Brennan Cooks website as the 4th car built. ( The unknown one with all of the question marks!!)
I have notified him, and I guess he is still to update the website.
It is a 440/4, 4 speed, white bucket.
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: tan top on November 07, 2011, 05:38:20 AM
hello & welcome   :cheers: :cheers:   would love to see pictures as & when you can :cheers: :popcrn: :2thumbs:
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: hemi68charger on November 07, 2011, 07:29:52 AM
Welcome aboard.... ask and learn... For one day, you'll be the teacher...........    :cheers:
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: nascarxx29 on November 07, 2011, 09:08:19 AM
The only thing I could find on 158632 old club record August 79 Francisco Toledo Pacomia California
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: moparstuart on November 07, 2011, 12:52:49 PM
welcome , great car 
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: rickroadrunner on November 07, 2011, 05:11:12 PM
Hi Nascarxx29, it is interesting you have details on my car.
A good friend of mine had the vehicle in dry storage for 20 odd years.
He bought the car around 1989-90 from a trader who said he found the car in Central America and brought it back to LA to turn it over and make a quick buck.
My friend vaguely remembers he mentioned El Salvador.
I think he may have contacted Winged Warriors back then , so that is why they have the VIN, but without any details.
I first saw the car in 1993, and caught up with my friend on any visits to the US.
He had kept the car for all these years with the intention of restoring it, however this never eventuated.
I was very appreciative when he offered me the car and I had no hesitation in buying it. He had kept the vehicle in dry storage and it does not have a single bit of rust in any of the panels or floors, which is fantastic! I am still thankfull he offered and sold it to me.
It does have many many dents, and the hood and nose, in particular need plenty of work.
I have a good friend , who is a coachbuilder, of the old style, who is doing the sheetmetal work.
He has completed projects for me in the past and is capable of true metal finish work. He really does have fantastic skills, so am fully confident of workmanship of the body.
I have bought many parts already for the project, I have purchased interior from Classic, many parts from Dave at Roseville, a concours exhaust from Gardner exhaust. Have new wheels and Polyglass tires aswell. The vehicle is still very original but needs a full restoration.
It still retains original driveline including radiator.
I have original fender tag and broadcast sheet( which is in poor condition).
I intend on doing a concourse restoration, but as mentioned before, it is hard to look at reference vehicle down here, so I may need some advise from time to time to ensure everything is done correctly.
Is there any way of finding original dealer?
Thanks
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: F8-4life on November 07, 2011, 10:11:36 PM
pictures!
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: moparstuart on November 08, 2011, 11:41:37 AM
Quote from: F8-4life on November 07, 2011, 10:11:36 PM
pictures!
:yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod:
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: Arnie Cunningham on November 08, 2011, 06:27:54 PM
Greetings All,

I am glad Rick found the site and logged on.  It took a while for me to update my webpage information on his car.  A couple of months ago, my girlfriend and I decided to try living with just smartphones and no other home internet connection.  Although it can be done, it makes some things like website editing impossible (unless you "tether" the phone).  I had to wait till I was at a wifi location to make the changes to the site.

Enjoy,
One more of the 999s confirmed,
Brennan R. Cook
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: rainbow4jd on November 12, 2011, 11:53:08 PM
Congratulations!  We are twin brothers!

My car is 158628 and I am just ahead of you with an identical car.   Overall, there appear to only be 4 or 5 in this combination ever made.

I'd love to see a scan or copy of your build sheet, because my build sheet was shredded and I only have the lower 1/3.   Does yours also say NASCAR 2?

I am also restoring mine, and will be glad to send you what pictures I can and perhaps you can do the same.

My email is vroomvroomracing@yahoo.com

Steve Vance
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: Fred on November 12, 2011, 11:56:10 PM
Welcome. You will soon learn that most of us here are addicted to pictures. So post up!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: Alaskan_TA on November 13, 2011, 12:49:48 AM
Quote from: rickroadrunner on November 07, 2011, 12:35:14 AM
Mine is the 158632 car

J99505?
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: rickroadrunner on November 13, 2011, 06:15:30 AM
Yes, it is J99505.
Steve , thanks for contacting me , I will send through a copy.
Yes, it does say NASCAR 2.
Just tried to upload photo but was in jpeg and 4mb. Not sure what to do now. ( I spend more time in the workshop than on the computer!)
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: rainbow4jd on November 13, 2011, 09:16:22 AM
You can send the jpg via email if you want
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: WINGIN IT on November 13, 2011, 08:17:29 PM
I've been lookin' for 158635 for a about 10 years now . Should have bought it when I had the chance.  :brickwall:
From what I understand it is originally local to where I live .

The guy in PA who has his stickered up as a Petty car is one digit off from this one.

Guessing all these cars were built at the same time....
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: nascarxx29 on November 13, 2011, 08:52:36 PM
Barrys car RM23UOA158634.He got it from a guy I know P Deighan in S NJ .Who got it from the guy in Buffalo NY Steve Bataglia Who has 7 Superbirds
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: WINGIN IT on November 14, 2011, 01:05:54 PM
That's what I figured .  The one I am after went to AZ from what I know.
So if any members are out there know of a Petty Blue 4bbl Bird with white bucket interior, would appreciate the info.
At the very least to confirm if the bird was originally local to me.
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: rickroadrunner on November 16, 2011, 06:57:23 AM
Still can't work out to put up some photos, all of my shots are 4mb.
I wanted to post a picture of the R/H(passenger) valve cover, as it has a black writing on it which looks original. it basically the number 75 with a small V next to the five.
there are also a few markings on the bellhousing made by what looks like the same marking pen. - the marks on the bellhousing must have been made by the factory as it would have been impossible to write on it with the engine in.
I am progressing with the body work at the moment, and have removed the R/H fender and am very happy to see the body work is original, with no bondo and zero rust.
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: pettybird on November 16, 2011, 09:54:40 AM
I'm 99% sure of this, and will gladly remove if it's wrong, but your valve cover V tells the line workers to put a four speed behind it.  that was written on the motor after it was fully outfitted at the factory with the proper carb, distributor, etc, but before it was stamped with a VIN for a particular car.  if I'm right (and I can't confirm as I have my auto car here at work, not the 4 speed one) you'll find that 675 on your fender tag and broadcast sheet, too.  you may find a zero or a slash on the driver cover--that would say 'don't put kickdown linkage on this one.'
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: rickroadrunner on November 16, 2011, 05:25:57 PM
Interesting, the marking on the bellhousing( at the top where it bolts to the block) is clearly a O, with a squiggle or line following it.
(if it original as it seems to be) My intention would to be to keep the original valve cover, then fit a new cover with duplicated markings. Would this be common practice in this type of restoration would you think?
After reading another thread, I also found I have the original carb.
I noticed one of the members restores carbs, it may be worth considering sending the carb to him to restore correctly.
I was also considering sending the wiper motor to a professional restorer over there to have it done aswell.
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: maxwellwedge on November 16, 2011, 06:19:50 PM
As Pettybird stated  -  Engine code on the pass side (last 2 or 3 numbers) and on the drivers side a 5 or 125 for automatic kick-down linkage or a 0 (Zero) for a stick car....0 meaning no kick-down linkage. I have a car with "25" on the bellhousing. I think this was a staging number and not related to any engineering numbers as the v-covers were. Not all cars got these markings.....or they did and the dealer or owner wiped them off early in the cars life.

Here is the pair off a Daytona. They usually went with 125 instead of the 5 for automatics in 1970.
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: maxwellwedge on November 16, 2011, 06:26:06 PM
Here is the 25 on the bellhousing.
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: ozcuda67 on November 17, 2011, 11:46:03 PM
G Day Rick, you've never been good at technology. Here's a photo I took of your car.
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: pettybird on November 18, 2011, 10:20:22 AM
I get chills just looking at it--awesome to see another 999 car! 
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: rainbow4jd on November 18, 2011, 08:27:01 PM
Quote from: ozcuda67 on November 17, 2011, 11:46:03 PM
G Day Rick, you've never been good at technology. Here's a photo I took of your car.

Now we know more about Rick than perhaps he wanted shared!    :cheers:

Welcome, Rick's friend!
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: rickroadrunner on November 19, 2011, 02:11:00 AM
In the future, maybe I'll have to check for cameras before entering my workshop!!!
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: tan top on November 19, 2011, 04:20:58 AM
Quote from: ozcuda67 on November 17, 2011, 11:46:03 PM
G Day Rick, you've never been good at technology. Here's a photo I took of your car.

:coolgleamA:  ........... :popcrn:
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: CornDogsCharger on November 19, 2011, 08:40:19 AM
Welcome to the board. Awesome car. Good to see another one brought out of the wood works. Keep us updated. We all love to see the progress on these cars as they are restored.

Hey maxwellwedge, great info on the valve covers. I always wondered what that was.

Justin
"CornDog"
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: rainbow4jd on November 19, 2011, 11:20:17 PM
Has anyone ever thought of putting together a restoration pictorial?

I think you would have to segment the car (kind of like they do in the archeological digs) - so that each area of the car was well organized.   Then you could post photos of original cars or cars in partial repair in that segment

For example....

Segment 367: Trunk opening - 7 photos
1) Bare opening - no weather stripping left side
2) Bare opening - no weather stripping right side
3) Bare opening - full view
4) Stamping number example 1
5) Stamping number example 2
6) Weather stripping
7) Weather stripping close up of seam


Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: rickroadrunner on November 21, 2011, 02:45:27 AM
I think I have managed to re size photos. attached is picture of markings on RH valve cover
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: Bob T on November 21, 2011, 04:53:59 AM
Welcome Rick, and My what a find you have there, well done  :drool5:
Looking forward to seeing more pics of the resto

:cheers:

Bob ( NZ )
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: rickroadrunner on November 22, 2011, 05:52:46 AM
I am currently restoring the hood. on the underside on the leading edge near the nose cone, there is a small rectangular hole and dent.
Should this rectangular hole be there, or has somebody just slammed the hood shut with a tool of some description left there which punched a hole. picture attached
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: rickroadrunner on January 09, 2012, 07:04:35 AM
Thought I better keep in  touch as to the progress. As the vehicle is being stripped, there are not many glorious photos to post. The front sheetmetal is off and being metal finished.
I am extremely happy with the condition of the body work from a rust point of view. I have found no rust whatsoever so far. Attached is a photo of the inner fender after paint stripping with a clean and strip disc. All sheetmetal is being hand stripped, not blasted, to ensure the integrity of the steel for metal finishing. As you would all know, this is normally a favourite spot for rust. Both fenders are like this, so I'm pretty pleased so far.
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: GULFGLENY on January 09, 2012, 06:50:05 PM
Nice find
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: rickroadrunner on January 10, 2012, 09:25:02 PM
I am about to remove the rear glass. Rear stainless is in perfect condition, so will arrange an expert so I don't bend it at all!
Any suggestions about the glass removal? Thanks
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: maxwellwedge on January 10, 2012, 09:49:00 PM
Go slow!  Front - Lots and lots of dish soap. Go slow!   :lol:
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: nvrbdn on January 10, 2012, 09:52:04 PM
 :2thumbs: :popcrn: :popcrn:
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: pettybird on January 11, 2012, 09:50:20 AM
Quote from: maxwellwedge on January 10, 2012, 09:49:00 PM
Go slow!  Front - Lots and lots of dish soap. Go slow!   :lol:

it also helps to have an assistant, and from my experience neither of us breathed until the glass was resting safely on soft towels. 
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: rickroadrunner on February 21, 2012, 06:40:36 AM
The 'Bird now has all interior and glass out, just the dash and drive train to go. The hood and fenders are being worked on at the moment.
I mentioned earlier that the car was believed to have been located in Central America around 1989-90.
Upon removing the interior I found a 1959 El Salvador coin under the passenger seat!!
So the story was true!
It would be interesting to know how long it was down there. It must be the most traveled Superbird ever!
Also, need to match the paint, does anybody have the code for 999 corporation blue? I want to make up a sample and see how it matched the existing paint.
I also mentioned recently I am in need of a R/H wing washer, does anybody have one or have any contacts where I could chase one up/
Thanks
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: pettybird on February 21, 2012, 09:55:17 AM
Sorry for not getting back to you sooner--I read your PM and got busy at work.

Here is the original PPG color code for Corporation Blue:

http://www.tcpglobal.com/autocolorlibrary/aclchip.aspx?image=1968-plymouth-pg01.jpg (http://www.tcpglobal.com/autocolorlibrary/aclchip.aspx?image=1968-plymouth-pg01.jpg)


It's on the 1967 and 1968 sheets.  I don't think your paint store will be able to mix based on that code, though.  I would have them scan your car and tint the paint until it matches.  Make sure you keep the formula!

I would definitely do base/clear paint, as well.
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: rickroadrunner on April 18, 2012, 04:55:21 AM
The 'Bird is progressing nicely. These are shots from last week. Car is currently on the rack squaring everything up. Very happy that there was no rust in any panels, just plenty of dents to metal finish. My body guy is working 3 days a week on it , so it should progress well over the next few months.
I have been dealing with Dave at Roseville Moparts, got to say he has been good to deal with.
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: rickroadrunner on April 18, 2012, 04:59:05 AM
Shot from the front. About to color match the paint from  the R/h door , as door panel and rubbers have never been off, so paint match should be good.
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: moparstuart on April 18, 2012, 09:49:23 AM
 :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: Indygenerallee on April 18, 2012, 11:21:11 AM
Lookin' nice!! I love Petty blue birds!!!
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: nascarxx29 on April 18, 2012, 11:51:03 AM
158632 what I could find on its past history Franscisco Toledo Pacioma Ca.If the car originally sold in Ca the dealer ads included the vin .Any idea what dealer its was from find anyhing on or with the car.Interesting how you found a El Salvador coin in it .Never know where these cars traveled before. But sometimes you get more pieces to its past puzzle when you start a search
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,90145.0.html
(http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/Wingcars69/101_4031.jpg)
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: rainbow4jd on April 18, 2012, 08:32:34 PM
Rick, just a note on restoration.

It appears that you've left the rear window plug intact as part of your restoration.    That may or may not prove to be a problem later on.

I made the decision to remove the window plug and I am glad I did.   Underneath was tons of rust as the metal was never prepped or even primered from the factory.   They apparently took the bare shell to Creative Industries and Creative welded in the window plug - without ever doing any protective work.  Then, the car was shipped to primer and paint.

Left untreated or unaddressed, my window plug would have rusted from the inside out, with most of the rust eating into the thinnest part of the plug, the window channels.

It does sound like you have a pretty rust free car and may not ever have to worry about it - but I just wanted to give you a heads up on what I found with my car.

Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: pettybird on April 18, 2012, 09:41:14 PM
Quote from: rainbow4jd on April 18, 2012, 08:32:34 PM
They apparently took the bare shell to Creative Industries and Creative welded in the window plug - without ever doing any protective work.  Then, the car was shipped to primer and paint.



Good advice aside, Lynch Rd installed the 'bird plugs, and the cars never went to Creative.  Chrysler only dipped a car to the tops of the headlights (about) and nothing above it was protected in any way...
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: Arnie Cunningham on April 18, 2012, 09:50:06 PM
This is as good a time as any to clear up a stubborn misunderstanding.
Creative only supplied parts for the Superbirds.  They did not do any of the assembly.
Superbirds were assembled on the line and at a Chrysler sub-assembly plant.
Charger 500s and Daytonas WERE modified by Creative.
I think it is the similarity of the sub-assembly plant's name - Clairpointe - to "Creative" that perpetuates
this misconception.

Checking under the window plug is, of course, a good idea.
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: tan top on April 19, 2012, 03:17:56 AM
   :scope:           :drool5:      :coolgleamA:   

:popcrn:
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: rickroadrunner on April 19, 2012, 05:16:53 AM
Thanks for the advice, I will pull the plug out over the next few days. I can then prime thoroughly.
Also, on the K frame there is a disc with the number 79 stamped in it. What does it mean?
I also need to buy 2 new fender scoops as the originals have fallen to pieces. I tried to contact Janek's but a bit hard without email.
Is there another reliable supplier of quality  scoops. I have some parts being sent from Roseville Moparts shortly, and these can be sent there for consolodation with my other parts.
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: nascarxx29 on April 19, 2012, 08:15:27 AM
Ted Janak is a friend of mine his email is CTJANAK@SBCGLOBAL.COM 281-379-2828.That 79 coin on K frame has been on all of my Superbirds to
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: BS27ROB on April 19, 2012, 08:24:50 AM
79 is the last 2 digits of the K frame part number. 3466479   1970 B body 440 w/skid plate.
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: nascarxx29 on April 19, 2012, 08:57:38 AM
 It also appears on the buildsheet down the page by the sway bar you see 79 the abbreviated part number as the rest of the ending part number digits are found on the buildsheet also
http://xxcarguy.blogspot.com/

3466479 (http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/Wingcars69/101_4032-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: nascarxx29 on April 19, 2012, 10:21:25 AM
Quote from: rickroadrunner on November 07, 2011, 05:11:12 PM
Hi Nascarxx29, it is interesting you have details on my car.
A good friend of mine had the vehicle in dry storage for 20 odd years.
He bought the car around 1989-90 from a trader who said he found the car in Central America and brought it back to LA to turn it over and make a quick buck.
My friend vaguely remembers he mentioned El Salvador.
I think he may have contacted Winged Warriors back then , so that is why they have the VIN, but without any details.
I first saw the car in 1993, and caught up with my friend on any visits to the US.
He had kept the car for all these years with the intention of restoring it, however this never eventuated.
I was very appreciative when he offered me the car and I had no hesitation in buying it. He had kept the vehicle in dry storage and it does not have a single bit of rust in any of the panels or floors, which is fantastic! I am still thankfull he offered and sold it to me.
It does have many many dents, and the hood and nose, in particular need plenty of work.
I have a good friend , who is a coachbuilder, of the old style, who is doing the sheetmetal work.
He has completed projects for me in the past and is capable of true metal finish work. He really does have fantastic skills, so am fully confident of workmanship of the body.
I have bought many parts already for the project, I have purchased interior from Classic, many parts from Dave at Roseville, a concours exhaust from Gardner exhaust. Have new wheels and Polyglass tires aswell. The vehicle is still very original but needs a full restoration.
It still retains original driveline including radiator.
I have original fender tag and broadcast sheet( which is in poor condition).
I intend on doing a concourse restoration, but as mentioned before, it is hard to look at reference vehicle down here, so I may need some advise from time to time to ensure everything is done correctly.
Is there any way of finding original dealer? Theres a list of dealers in those areas .Just dont know if those dealers were there in the 70-s

Thanks


http://www.chrysler.com/crossbrand/intl_site_locator/
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: rainbow4jd on April 20, 2012, 02:41:02 AM
Quote from: pettybird on April 18, 2012, 09:41:14 PM
Quote from: rainbow4jd on April 18, 2012, 08:32:34 PM
They apparently took the bare shell to Creative Industries and Creative welded in the window plug - without ever doing any protective work.  Then, the car was shipped to primer and paint.



Good advice aside, Lynch Rd installed the 'bird plugs, and the cars never went to Creative.  Chrysler only dipped a car to the tops of the headlights (about) and nothing above it was protected in any way...

Thanks for the clarification - I learn something new everyday.
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: rickroadrunner on April 20, 2012, 06:48:16 AM
Tried the Janek email, but bounces back. Any other ideas? Thanks
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: rickroadrunner on April 21, 2012, 03:08:47 AM
Rear window plug now out. No rust at all which is fantastic. Ready to prime up and re install.
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: rickroadrunner on April 21, 2012, 03:27:15 AM
Looks like the factory never primered under the plug
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: charger Downunder on April 21, 2012, 04:36:50 AM
Wow no treatment under the plug who would of thought that.
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: Indygenerallee on April 21, 2012, 08:08:52 AM
Thanks for the pics! First time I have seen how the Superbird plug is installed!! That is great it is clean! and not primed does not suprise me they shoved them out as fast as possible.
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: Patronus on April 21, 2012, 02:27:55 PM
sick thread! thanks for sharing!!
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: rainbow4jd on April 26, 2012, 01:18:44 AM
Yep, we caught the lack of primer when we pulled mine.   That's why I mentioned it to you.      I am really thankful to have a quality body man who decided if we wanted to do "it right" - that it had to come off.   Now I am all primered and reset
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: moparstuart on April 26, 2012, 11:49:32 AM
Quote from: rainbow4jd on April 26, 2012, 01:18:44 AM
Yep, we caught the lack of primer when we pulled mine.   That's why I mentioned it to you.      I am really thankful to have a quality body man who decided if we wanted to do "it right" - that it had to come off.   Now I am all primered and reset

:2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: rickroadrunner on May 16, 2012, 07:22:52 AM
Plug back in.
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: rickroadrunner on May 16, 2012, 07:27:33 AM
The K frame has a few unusual markings. The L/H engine mount pad was painted yellow and there is a "57" marked in white paint,
Any ideas anybody?
I am trying to post a picture but can't seem to get it under 200KB
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: rickroadrunner on June 28, 2012, 06:59:37 AM
Car is progressing. Doors aligned. Body shell nearly finished. Will start on front sheetmetal in next few days.
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: rickroadrunner on June 28, 2012, 07:06:13 AM
I have cleaned up the diff prior to giving to the specialist to be rebuilt. There is a large number '4'. has anybody seen this before , or know what it means?
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: rickroadrunner on July 25, 2012, 07:32:03 AM
The 'Bird is still progressing.
Any thoughts on my previous question regarding the '4' on the diff?
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: nvrbdn on July 25, 2012, 12:26:44 PM
iwould assume an inspector #, but thats a guess.
Title: Re: Australian Petty Blue Superbird Restoration
Post by: rickroadrunner on September 06, 2012, 07:53:32 AM
The 'Bird is still progressing. Now fitting the nose. The headlight buckets were in good rust free condition.
I am now looking for a lower center valence panel. The ends are in perfect condition. Does any body know of a center section that may be for sale? Thanks
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Post by: nascarxx29 on September 06, 2012, 08:00:36 AM
The center valance is easy year one had them and not to hard to fab one from scratch
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Post by: nascarxx29 on September 06, 2012, 08:03:36 AM
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?topic=69663.0
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Post by: nascarxx29 on September 06, 2012, 08:33:35 AM
http://www.stephensperformance.com/frontvalance.html
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Post by: rickroadrunner on September 06, 2012, 05:41:28 PM
Thanks XX29, I don't have one at all and don't have one to look a tto copy. so only option is to buy one.
Were these painted body color or left galvanised. I have looked around but have not been able to come up with any photos showing nose cone from underneath veiw.
I'll try the leads you gave me. By the way, still looking for wing washers!
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Post by: loudmouthaussie on September 14, 2012, 10:19:26 AM
another wing car downunder  :popcrn:

ill see one in the flesh one day  :2thumbs:
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Post by: Streamline on September 17, 2012, 09:52:33 PM
Hi, if anyone is interested, Streamline Automotive Refinishing in Mt Barker South Australia is the body shop doing the Petty Blue resto.  You can find us on Facebook under 'Streamline Automotive Refinishing'.  Drop by and say hi.....Cheers Chris and Di Kellow
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Post by: Fred on September 17, 2012, 11:38:23 PM
Welcome to the forum streamline.   :2thumbs:
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Post by: Hemidog on September 18, 2012, 02:17:11 AM
Sweet build!  :cheers:

More pictures!  :icon_smile_big:
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Post by: Arnie Cunningham on September 18, 2012, 08:16:42 PM
Is this the part you were asking about?  If so, I have seen it both bare galvanizing and painted black.  Not sure if one or both ways are correct.
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Post by: loudmouthaussie on September 19, 2012, 02:52:29 PM
Check out new street machine mag. Nice petty blue bird. Not sure if its a streeter tho.
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Post by: rickroadrunner on September 22, 2012, 04:15:15 AM
Thanks Arnie, that is the part. I am arranging to have one sent out by Gean Gregory. His is bare steel. I would like to be sure of the finish. Does anybody have photos of original vehicles showing the fitment and finish?
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Post by: rickroadrunner on September 22, 2012, 04:23:05 AM
Should have said any other photos!! Those shots are helpful- Thanks
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Post by: Arnie Cunningham on September 22, 2012, 10:38:19 AM
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95223.msg1088190.html#msg1088190
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Post by: Arnie Cunningham on September 26, 2012, 02:05:55 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Plymouth-Superbird-Front-Fender-Extensions-and-Bottom-Valance-Originalparts-/271064167325?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f1caef39d&vxp=mtr
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Post by: rickroadrunner on September 26, 2012, 06:13:39 PM
Thanks Brennan, I have the fender extensions and mine are in good condition. I ended up finding a center valance panel. I am still looking for L/H wing washer though!!
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Post by: Arnie Cunningham on September 26, 2012, 06:25:22 PM
The paint on those used ones sure looks like Petty blue.  Anyone know the seller?
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Post by: Streamline on October 21, 2012, 10:23:28 PM
Hi there are a few new photos on Streamline Automotive Refinishing's Facebook page.  Come on over and say hi. Right Hand Side sheet metal work done, now onto the Left Hand Side.....dreading the nosecone!!!
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Post by: rickroadrunner on January 04, 2013, 07:31:53 AM
Still progressing, body shell inc trunk lid, doors, fenders, hood now finished and gapped. Wing trial fitted, with some fine tuning it all fits perfect. Body shell and panels just need to be blocked then final color. The nose cone is the final part that needs to be panel beated. This will be the final part to be installed.
The shell will then go on the rotisserie for the underside of the floor to be blocked, then finally some blue paint!
Chris is doing a great job on the body, I should have some more exciting photos in the coming weeks.
Cheers
Rick
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Post by: tan top on January 04, 2013, 07:49:02 AM
 looking good RRD  :yesnod:   :drool5:
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Post by: moparstuart on January 04, 2013, 09:43:52 AM
Quote from: tan top on January 04, 2013, 07:49:02 AM
looking good RRD  :yesnod:   :drool5:
:yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :drool5: :drool5: :drool5: :drool5: :drool5:
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Post by: loudmouthaussie on January 07, 2013, 01:19:17 AM
Cool :cheers:
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Post by: rickroadrunner on April 01, 2013, 05:02:21 AM
Yes, the 'Bird has been progressing. Had a few issues with the nosecone.
When I bought the car the nose cone was completely apart, with some damage, so it is taking a while to get it right.
The rest of the body is done. Pictures are of body in final primer, and panels on to check gaps again!
I'm extremely happy as the car is laser straight with perfect gaps.  Ready to put body on rotisserie to paint floor pan. Can't wait to see some Petty Blue paint!
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Post by: rickroadrunner on April 01, 2013, 05:03:50 AM
Anothe shot
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Post by: JB400 on April 01, 2013, 07:03:13 AM
Looks  :drool5:  When should we expect to see the blues?
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Post by: pettybird on April 02, 2013, 12:40:34 PM
Hey Rick--

Since Rainbow4jd is asking about Petty birds again, would you mind looking at your broadcast sheet and seeing if it was an ordered car or sales bank unit?  That's in the upper right.  Also, under the N codes 3/4 of the way down, does it have N95 California emissions?  It was posted earlier that your car spent time there.  Do you have the emissions tube in the trunk?

Thanks
Doug
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Post by: tan top on April 02, 2013, 01:18:40 PM
nice  :yesnod: :drool5:
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Post by: moparstuart on April 02, 2013, 01:36:39 PM
weren't you looking for a wing washer  ?  did you find one  ?
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Post by: Daytona Guy on April 03, 2013, 12:42:23 AM
Quote from: rickroadrunner on May 16, 2012, 07:22:52 AM
Plug back in.

What are the two pop bottle holders for - package tray?

Dane
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Post by: rickroadrunner on April 05, 2013, 07:37:04 AM
Dane, not sure exactly what you mean by pop bottle holders.
The package tray was in good condition, bar where somebody had enlarged a speaker hole. This was repaired.
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Post by: rickroadrunner on April 05, 2013, 07:46:25 AM
Doug, it is hard to read the broadcast sheet, as it is in poor condition. The right hand lower corner is missing. In the N section, it has 12651 between 4- and 51.
it has a 5 under gov/tack and nothing else on the N line.
By my earlier comments regarding wheels, any idea what my car came with?
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Post by: rickroadrunner on April 05, 2013, 08:04:19 AM
Further on the wheels, in the wheels section at the bottom , in the W section, there is a 1 under the 2-wheels.
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Post by: rickroadrunner on April 05, 2013, 08:21:18 AM
Doug, regarding your question regarding special order, in Y section, I can only read that there is a 5 under the "build to spec. for"
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Post by: rickroadrunner on May 02, 2013, 07:42:31 AM
The nose was fitted today after being off the 'Bird for 25+ years. Still a bit of metal finishing work to do. Hopefully should be completed by end of next week.
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Post by: JB400 on May 02, 2013, 01:43:08 PM
 :2thumbs: :popcrn:
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Post by: WINGIN IT on May 02, 2013, 04:55:16 PM
Quote from: rickroadrunner on May 02, 2013, 07:42:31 AM
The nose was fitted today after being off the 'Bird for 25+ years. Still a bit of metal finishing work to do. Hopefully should be completed by end of next week.

Ah, it's a beautiful thing, getting the beak back on the bird  :2thumbs:
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Post by: tan top on May 02, 2013, 05:29:54 PM
 :2thumbs: :popcrn:
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Post by: rickroadrunner on March 01, 2015, 06:28:08 AM
I have not logged on for a while, the 'Bird has still been progressing. I have been following Mopar Johns restoration, which has been super helpful to me as I have been able to trying my best to duplicate the high standard of restoration his Superbird.
The 'Bird is now painted in Glasurit. These photos are of the car after coming out of the booth. My painter, Chris has done a fantastic job. These photos are of the body un polished. He had rubbed the car in 2000 grit before painting. He is about to rub with 3000 grit then polish.
I have finished most other parts, engine, gearbox, diff, interior, suspension, pedal box, steering box and pump, dash etc.
The nose cone shell has been trial fitted and after lots of work fits well with the new rubber seal.
I should have the car home in around a week and final assembly will begin.
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Post by: rickroadrunner on March 01, 2015, 06:29:06 AM
Another photo
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Post by: rickroadrunner on March 01, 2015, 06:32:38 AM
Right hand side
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Post by: Hemi Runner on March 01, 2015, 10:18:30 AM
That's beautiful!! I love that color!! I would love to own an original someday.
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Post by: oldcarnut on March 01, 2015, 05:44:38 PM
Wow that looks great  :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
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Post by: moparnation74 on March 01, 2015, 06:05:18 PM
Damn, That looks beautiful.  Great work :2thumbs:
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Post by: Mopar John on March 01, 2015, 09:33:13 PM
Rick,
That body in paint looks GREAT!
Keep the updates and pictures coming!
MJ
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Post by: pettybird on March 02, 2015, 12:20:28 AM
that's a lot shinier than mine!  keep up with the pictures!
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Post by: TPR on March 02, 2015, 05:47:36 AM
You have been busy. :2thumbs:
That color is just beautiful. I would love to see it one day. Not many of them down here.
TPR
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Post by: Tim L on March 02, 2015, 05:47:48 AM
Looking good Rick  :2thumbs:
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Post by: wingcarenvy on March 09, 2015, 09:36:16 PM
Looks awesome!! :2thumbs:
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Post by: tan top on March 10, 2015, 06:11:55 AM
 :coolgleamA: looks awesome  :drool5:
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Post by: hemi68charger on March 10, 2015, 07:32:54 AM
very very nice.........  :2thumbs:
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Post by: rainbow4jd on March 10, 2015, 11:44:27 PM
Ahhh, it ain't nothin' special!    :rofl:

It looks great, mate!

I'm so jealous right now - hopefully, this summer mine will be coming out of final paint and then off to Jim in Florida for mechanical assembly. 


PS  You would have laughed at me this Sunday.  At Church I used my best Rick T Aussie accent as part of a skit for the children.    You were a Pet Story owner with a Turtle named Mabel.    I had to imagine our phone conversations and what you sound like to me.   I can only imagine on your end of the telephone how strange I sound.

G-day, mate!
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Post by: rickroadrunner on May 29, 2015, 08:08:26 AM
Slowly putting the 'Bird back together. Building a car in Australia can be a pain. Just ordered a small box of parts, $208 freight and its taken 4 days just to confirm freight cost!
I do need some advice, I am painting the interior roof moldings . The side mouldings seem to be gloss, where the front is matt.(or are they just sun affected?)
I this correct? Could the front molding be the same finish as the dash and steering column to reduce glare?
Should the side moldings be satin or gloss?
What finish should the ash tray be?
Thanks
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Post by: rickroadrunner on September 04, 2016, 06:51:57 AM
Its been a while since posting.Fitted exhaust and tailshaft today. A few minor issues to sort.
Just need to fit radiator and shroud, steering column and a couple of wiring issues, then ready to turn key!
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Post by: rickroadrunner on September 04, 2016, 06:55:55 AM
Ill have the car down from the hoist soon, so can post some new photos.
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Post by: rickroadrunner on September 04, 2016, 07:04:28 AM
I posted a pic of underbody, but it came up as last posting of page 5 so thought I'd post it a again here on page 6 in case it was missed.
I'm really happy with the fitment of the exhaust I bought from Gardner Exhaust.
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Post by: A12 Superbee on September 07, 2016, 12:59:21 AM
Quote from: loudmouthaussie on September 14, 2012, 10:19:26 AM
another wing car downunder  :popcrn:

ill see one in the flesh one day  :2thumbs:

Don't hold your breath, there's less wing cars down here than A12's and I've never seen another A12 here.
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Post by: boss429kiwi on September 07, 2016, 02:18:31 AM
How many wing cars in AU?

There approx 4 Superbirds and 4 Daytona's here in NZ
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Post by: A12 Superbee on September 07, 2016, 07:58:53 AM
There's several Superbirds, pretty much all of them are that Bronze colour.  :eek2:

I've only seen the one Daytona, the green one of a forum member here.
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Post by: tan top on September 07, 2016, 01:22:46 PM
Quote from: rickroadrunner on May 29, 2015, 08:08:26 AM
Slowly putting the 'Bird back together. Building a car in Australia can be a pain. Just ordered a small box of parts, $208 freight and its taken 4 days just to confirm freight cost!
I do need some advice, I am painting the interior roof moldings . The side mouldings seem to be gloss, where the front is matt.(or are they just sun affected?)
I this correct? Could the front molding be the same finish as the dash and steering column to reduce glare?
Should the side moldings be satin or gloss?
What finish should the ash tray be?
Thanks

:2thumbs:  looks awesome !! nice work going on  :yesnod: :popcrn: :cheers:
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Post by: wingcarenvy on September 11, 2016, 12:03:13 AM
Looks amazing! The color is quite stunning.  :2thumbs:
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Post by: pettybird on October 03, 2016, 05:34:38 PM
Quote from: rickroadrunner on May 29, 2015, 08:08:26 AM
Slowly putting the 'Bird back together. Building a car in Australia can be a pain. Just ordered a small box of parts, $208 freight and its taken 4 days just to confirm freight cost!
I do need some advice, I am painting the interior roof moldings . The side mouldings seem to be gloss, where the front is matt.(or are they just sun affected?)
I this correct? Could the front molding be the same finish as the dash and steering column to reduce glare?
Should the side moldings be satin or gloss?
What finish should the ash tray be?
Thanks

Gloss side rails, matte front.  Starting in 1968 you had to have matte finishes on the dash, A pillars, etc, to eliminate glare. 

The outside of the ash tray should be painted with your dash--whatever you're using for that.  The inside was zinc plated.
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Post by: pettybird on October 03, 2016, 05:37:48 PM
And awesome progress--it looks amazing.